Letters to the Editor

Mosque or memorial?

September 2, 2010

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To the editor:

For the last few weeks, there has been a debate about Muslims in New York attempting to build a new mosque just five blocks from Ground Zero where the twin towers used to stand. This group of Muslims have adamantly refused to build it elsewhere, will not budge; rather they strongly insist it is their “right” to build their mosque on this exact location, so close to where the hijacked airplanes flew into the towers.

Have you ever considered perhaps, Muslims are planning their own 9/11 memorial, but for a far different reason? After all, America is building a 9/11 memorial in honor of the thousands of Americans who died at Ground Zero. This New York “mosque,” could well become the “Muslim memorial,” to honor the “martyrs” of Islam, the very Muslims who hijacked the aircraft and flew them into the towers.

It could very well turn into the main attraction for Muslims around the world to make a pilgrimage to New York to pay their respects and homage to their 19 fellow Muslims who took over the four aircraft and killed 3,000 Americans in their “jihad,” carried out in the name of Allah and Islam.

Perhaps this is not a debate or argument about freedom of religion or if Muslims have rights, but rather about the possibilities of a second monument in the name of 9/11, a monument that celebrates the death of Americans, rather than honoring their memory. Mosque or memorial? It could possibly serve as both.

Comments

50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

4- Since when did a world religion become synonymous with a fringe group of terrorists?

5 - "It could very well turn into the main attraction for Muslims around the world to make a pilgrimage to New York to pay their respects and homage..." - Great! I'm sure the U.S. and NYC would appreciate the increase in tourism dollars, especially in this economy.

The answer to 4 When the World Trade center was destroyed by Islamists. Muslim Pilgrimage to New York is exactly what the motive for this is.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Ignorant people are out in force today, huh, Tom. If a black person was responsible for the attacks, would your head be filled with such bigotry? How about a white or a Chrtistian. Wait, didn't a Christian Queen murder millions of Jews and Muslims in Spain? What about your friend Timmothy? Or David? weren't they of your same religion.

I am going to say it for the last time to you so read carefully: The Muslims who want to build the community center are not the same ones who did the 9/11 attacks. They are dead and they killed several Muslims, too. They didn't warn their fellow Muslims that they were coming, because those Muslims would have alerted authorities. Muslims don't want to take over America, they don't want to hurt their neighbors and they don't want to be held hostage for the crimes others have done in their name. All of them were horrified on that day, just like you and I were.

christy kennedy 4 years, 10 months ago

I really don't know why a few of us continue to try to formulate statements we think might make you at least pause and reconsider your rigid perceptions.

What exactly is it in the above statement that is worthy of a Kool-Aid insult? If you had a well thought out response with any sort of content, it might mean something. So based on what you were replying to:

Do you think that the Park 51 Mosque people are linked to those responsible for the 9-11 attacks?

Do you dispute that those attackers are dead? Or that Muslims were killed on 9/11?

Do you really believe that peaceful and moderate Muslims do not exist? Do you think they all want to take over America? Do you know anything about Islam at all?

Last question is for me. If you really believe what you believe despite information to the contrary, or new information, why am I wasting my time?

A reasonable person must be able to alter their views based on new information. If you could show me any credible information of crimes committed by a Park 51 Mosque person, I would consider them a criminal. Lacking that information, I do not. And I don't know why you consider them criminals other than that you are overwhelmed by your preconceived bias and unfair judgments.

BorderRuffian 4 years, 10 months ago

Never-the-less, a shrine or mosque commemorating a heinous act of terrorism is a filthy and despicable act of 'rubbing salt into the wounds' of the American people. And the terrorists, by the act of proclaiming Islamic Jihad in such act, DID speak for the Islamic peoples.

To put an Islamic mosque there by Ground Zero, would be about the same as putting a mosque on top of the Temple ruins in Jerusalem. And act saying, "This is mine, we have conquered."

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

I think there are many Muslims who don't agree that the small minority of radical Muslims involved in terrorist acts are "speaking for them".

If I commit an act of terrorism and claim it is a "Christian holy war", am I speaking for the "Christian people"?

voevoda 4 years, 10 months ago

There is indeed a mosque on top of the Temple ruins in Jerusalem. And most Jews are not upset about it. The Western Wall, nearby the site of the mosque, has become their shrine. Of course, the Temple had already been destroyed, by the Romans. And then Christians took over the site. Churches have been built over the sites used by other religions. Does that mean that Christians also are saying "This is mine, we have conquered"? It's worth remembering that the World Trade Center wasn't a religious site, so it's not the equivalent of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem anyway.

KSManimal 4 years, 10 months ago

The only scary thing about this issue is that there are people who believe it is an issue - that does not bode well for the future of our nation, or the planet.

What part of "equal protection of the laws" don't people understand? Seems pretty clear to me. If that area is zoned for the type of facility this group wants to establish, then that settles it. And, no one else has to like it.

Following the logic of the bigots and fear mongers, we shouldn't allow any Catholic churches anywhere near elementary schools. After all, those aren't really churches but rather mocking monuments to pedophilia.

jonas_opines 4 years, 10 months ago

God, can we just get November over with so this kind of wedge issue idiocy will lessen in magnitude for a few months until the next, bigger election cycle starts picking up?

beatrice 4 years, 10 months ago

Sadly, we appear to be in perpetual election cycle mode anymore.

grammaddy 4 years, 10 months ago

The fore-father who added religious freedom to our constitution must have been a Democrat.

bender 4 years, 10 months ago

Definition of NOTORIOUS : generally known and talked of; especially : widely and unfavorably known

It is a shame that the support of religious freedom, a basic principal upon which this nation was founded, would ever be described as "notorious".

grammaddy 4 years, 10 months ago

/They own the land it sits on and can build whatever they want on their land.This shouldn't even be an issue.

Jason Bailey 4 years, 10 months ago

You're funny. You seriously cling to this antiquated thought that anyone in the country actually owns anything? I've known many people who "owned" land only to have WY county roll in and boot them for commerce (Legends), farmed landed for generations that they "owned" only to have KDOT roll in and abscond with it for a new highway or cloverleaf monstrosity.

We live under tyranny presented with in the guise of democracy. I learned long ago, the government lets you think you own property so that you'll be a good citizens and pay taxes. The moment the govt wants it, they'll take it.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Yes.

And it's generally conservatives who have managed to expand the idea of "eminent domain" to include taking private property for more lucrative commercial use.

See the Kelo case in New London, CT.

Jason Bailey 4 years, 10 months ago

I don't care who's doing it -- conservative/liberals -- there's not much difference outside of how it's packaged. The entire govt is corrupt, tyrannical, and needs to be neutered.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Well, there are zoning regulations as well.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 10 months ago

I am so ashamed of America right now.

9-11 Al Quada was victorious in the worst way possible.

Instead of uniting us, they have divided us.

Instead of responding by touting American liberties and Freedom as the strongest and best example in the world, America has responded by fraying and tearing the Constitution.

Instead of responding by building a stronger America, we have become weak and bigoted and turned our backs on what makes us the best.

And who is to blame? It is not really Al Quada, they are not that strong, we can and should wipe them off the face of the earth. The real enemy is within, and people like Tom Shewmon, Curtiss Bennett and Rush Limbaugh are leading the charge to destroy America.

They are the traitors today.

50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

Several more names could be added to your list when you take into consideration that it is quite OK to lie to benefit Islam.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

IT is NOT ok to lie!! No lie, except telling your wife that she is beautiful, or lying to stop a crime or a war is acceptable in Islam. The rest are forbidden. Islam is an Abrahamic religion and being so, they follow the 10 commandments.

mr_right_wing 4 years, 10 months ago

"I am so ashamed of America right now."

As opposed to when?

Nothing new here.

We don't have armed guards at our boarders (keeping people in) you know.....

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

So when people disagree with what's being done here, they should just leave?

Then all those opposed to the current administration should just leave in a mass exodus, instead of participating in the political process?

mr_right_wing 4 years, 10 months ago

I wouldn't shed a tear if idistainamerica decided to leave; he'd probably be better off in a muslim, socialist or communist country.

You cut cancer out, you destroy it; you don't just hope it changes its mind and rejoins the rest of the helpful cells in your body.

I have no respect for Obama; yet this is still the greatest country on this planet, and I think I've been very fair...look over my comment history; the very few good decisions Obama's made I've pointed out myself. That's right.. I gave him some credit. I love this country, I just don't respect the man that occupies the Oval Office right now.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Not exactly responsive.

You think that a certain poster is cancerous. Others think that right-wing extremists are cancerous. Others think,...

The point is that the "love it or leave it" crowd seems to be blind to the fact that many currently don't love what's going on and aren't leaving, and seem not to apply that logic to them.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

1.5 Billion Muslims are Not part of the "Nation of Islam". This is not part of Islam at all and no one is "Thumbing their noses at anyone" except bigots, liars and troublemakers. UhOh that means Tom Shewmon, the most ignorant of all.

jaywalker 4 years, 10 months ago

A strawman argument that has already been argued, K. The difference between 9/11 and OKC is the former was done in the name of a religion, the latter was not.

rbwaa 4 years, 10 months ago

does anyone remember that the date of the bombing was specifically chosen by Timothy McVeigh in retaliation for the deaths of the radical christian cult leader David Koresh and his followers? isn't that in the name of a religion?

christy kennedy 4 years, 10 months ago

I would say the content of this letter is unbelievable but we've heard way too much from the fear-hate crowd lately to be surprised by this.

I'm not sure what information Mr. Bennett is going but it sounds very Beck, Limbaugh, and Paliinesque, so that would be no actual information, just whatever fits on a bumper sticker or in a misspelled twitter blurt.

Perhaps he and others who've judged those they don't know a thing about could glean just a bit of insight about Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf if they could just sit still and listen for a few minutes to the man himself:

http://www.ted.com/talks/imam_feisal_abdul_rauf.html

Mike Ford 4 years, 10 months ago

tom repeat the same garbage over and over and you actualy believe it.. the gop plan right? repeat the same garbage for 30 tears over and over play the religous right for their votes and dump them at the altar...oh that's why there's a tea party.... attacking a soldier because they don't buy into your party sanctioned love it or leave it fascism?.... nice... adios I'm going to work.. have fun with your life totally on the net....

jaywalker 4 years, 10 months ago

While I don't believe what Mr. Bennett proposes as a possibility with this LTE is the actual case, a few people here should take into consideration that all he is doing is lending a 'what if?' to the situation. I don't see him advocating an 'anti' position here, just throwing out a hypothetical.
Taking that for what it is then, would those that believe the muslim communitiy center should be allowed to be built feel any differently if his hypothetical were somehow proven true?

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

That's a very interesting question.

What if they are in fact building it as some sort of celebration of the attack (I don't think that's they case)?

Liberty One said "Who cares?" - it's not a valid reason to deny them the right to build it there.

Of course, I would feel differently about it than I do now, thinking that it's a moderate plan which attempts to provide a community center open to those of all faiths.

But would that justify stopping them from building? On what grounds?

jaywalker 4 years, 10 months ago

Made me stop and think as well, jafs. I'm of the mind that it should be allowed to be built, but my initial reaction to the hypothetical was the opposite. On wondering what grounds could be considered for disallowing the building in that scenario I think it would be similar to not allowing a murderer to make money from writing a book based on his actions, something like that.

tubs_of_love 4 years, 10 months ago

Memorial's are always a bad idea, they cost a lot to build and they have nothing to offer the economy, they just sit there looking all purdy. Americans that actually care about those that died do not need a building to remember, how about, just remember.

independant1 4 years, 10 months ago

  1. Moderate Muslim sensibility should prevail. It is obvious some see the proximity of the planned muslim community center to ground zero as muslim disrespect. A big middle finger or celebration to victory over the great satan.
  2. Where is the voice of the truely moderate muslim? Yes we can see why one can think the proximity issue is distastefull/volatile.
  3. We will seek alternative locations for our community center, if alternate location can be found without substantial extra cost we will go that route for our community center plan.

It is curious, I've not heard yet a moderate muslim voice. These are points of view I would expect to hear from a moderate muslim.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

I agree that it seems odd they aren't considering another site.

However, if it's supposed to be a community center, it would make sense to build it in the community it's trying to serve.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Independent, Moderate muslims are speaking clearly to you, but you are not listening. Moderate Muslims are all around you no matter where you live. look around and you will see them cowered because of the bigotry, but they speak out clearly and with truth. There is no hierarchy in Islam or in moderate Islam and only Iran calls America the great satan. Moderate Muslims who themselves are American, utter no statement like that. Listen and stop talking.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Why do you think they refuse to consider another site, in the spirit of reconciliation?

independant1 4 years, 10 months ago

I've not heard a peep from a moderate muslim on this issue. The Imam Rauf has expressed his opinion and is identified as moderate. Due to those expressed opinion(s) I do not consider him moderate.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Yes. you have and repeatedly. What do you want to hear? Do you want moderates to say that it should be built elsewhere? They won't because it is up to the builders where and when to build it. What moderates want is the fear mongering to stop. They are not out to hurt you, but to just enjoy their life as you do. We have to stop those who are ignorant and spew nothing but hate. Muslims don't want to kill infidel, they have enough to do raising their children, running their businesses and living their own lives. Besides the Quran says nothing about killing any one it is a sin to kill in every religion except in self defense.

One other thing. Until 1918, the whole Muslim world was ruled by a Caliphate. It was called the Ottoman Empire and it lasted over 850 years. Some Caliphs were brutal and others like Suliman were generous and progressive. The huge artistic buildings including the Taj Mahal were built during this time. This Caliphate hurt no one in the West, but ceded the land to the Palestinians who lost it in the Balfour Praclimation in 1920. When the Jews started moving to Palestine, the problems in the Middle East started. They wanted the land and the Palestinians didn't want to give up what they had for centuries.

independant1 4 years, 10 months ago

Nope still haven't heard moderate muslim voice, perhaps a.there is none or b. moderate muslims are not speaking out

independant1 4 years, 10 months ago

De Telegraaf, the Netherlands' largest newspaper, led its front page on Friday with a story on the speech by Feiz Muhammad.

The Sydney-born Muhammad has gained notoriety for, among other things, calling on young children to be radicalized and blaming rape victims for their own attacks.

The paper posted an English-language audio clip in which he refers to Wilders as "this Satan, this devil, this politician in Holland" and explains that anyone who talks about Islam like Wilders does should be executed by beheading.

50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

I see that the Defenders of Islam are posting here.
Moderate Muslims are ruled by fear from ther own religion to not speak out against Islam. The only posts by Muslims will be in defense of Islam or severe penalties will occur.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Actually, interestingly enough, the only person who has posted on here who lost family in the attack supported the building of this community center.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Who is going to meet out the punishment? You? The Imam? No. We speak out in defense of ourselves and of our religion from people who print half truths and lies. Islam does NOT push for the destruction of anyone. Like Jesus said; "Leave them to God".

The Quran says: "There is no compulsion in religion". meaning that anyone can follow Islam as they see fit.

jonas_opines 4 years, 10 months ago

That's funny, I don't see a single defense of Islam itself in this entire thread. I see a few defenders of our laws, equality, and rights. It would help if you'd not confuse the two.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Some, including myself, are defending the whole Muslim religion as not being identical to the radical fringe terrorists.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

No they don't. That is totally untrue.

Jimo 4 years, 10 months ago

But hey, at least we don't have to talk about how the GOP has no plan to solve any of our problems! Now on to the midget wrestling.

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

We most certainly are not, and were not intended to be, a "Christian nation".

If we were, the Constitution wouldn't have provided for freedom of religion, and the prohibition against establishing a state religion.

Ralph Reed 4 years, 10 months ago

Tom, we are not a "Christian" nation. If that's the case why haven't all other faiths been required to convert or be deported? Think about what you're saying for once instead of parotting Faux News Drivel.

Or, better yet, just go away like you said you were going to several months ago.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Shariah law in no way discriminates against women. That is why there is no Shariah law in Saudi Arabia. If there was, women would drive and could wear whatever they wanted and could work, go to school and be part of the community with men and women. Shariah law is not an enemy to Christians or Jews. But those who are ignorant of what it is, mislabel it to be something terrible. Shariah law and democracy work hand-in-hand. America has some form of Shariah law because of the freedoms of speech, religion and other freedoms we enjoy.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

According to what I've read, there are in fact multiple interpretations of Sharia law, some of which suggest it can co-exist with secular democracy, and others which suggest that it cannot.

Is that not the case?

jaywalker 4 years, 10 months ago

"Shariah law in no way discriminates against women"

Naaaw, just subjugates them. 'Course, I don't believe a man would get buried to his neck and stoned to death for adultery or for being a victim of rape, but that's just nitpicking, isn't it?

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Stoning to death is the law in some countries, but not part of the Shariah necessaily. Here is the proof: If a person commits a crime, they are punished for it but that crime has to be against another person ie theft or murder or rape. But adultry is against one's self and the adulterer has the right to repent to God and ask forgiveness. However, in order to accuse anyone of Adultery, you have have 4 witnesses. How many of you have sex in front of 4 witnesses, adtultry or not?

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

Adultery also hurts one's spouse, if one is cheating on them.

BorderRuffian 4 years, 10 months ago

These people who want to build this abominable mosque should be seen as what they are - nothing less than the Fred Phelpses of the Muslim world.

beatrice 4 years, 10 months ago

Many Americans really hate Muslims because of the actions of a few radicals claiming to be Muslims. We get it, but freedom of religion is still part of the Constitution.

Next!

kenos 4 years, 10 months ago

Here's a hypothetical (not really) for you: Fox News owner, Alwaleed bin Talal, funds the Mosque At Ground Zero through his charity: The Kingdom Foundation. Fox News then hypes the proposal to engage the American people and further divide us along religious lines. Meanwhile, Israel, which had as much to do with 9/11 as any Muslim (do your research), makes further preparation to bomb Iran. Lord Rothschild, who already owns Israel and most of the United States, gets happy because he can rape another country and further indebt the world through usery (the Arab nations are bad about usery). Idiot Americans (who have not done their research) write LTE's and debate the issue ad nauseum. Meanwhile, LJW obediantly gives us nothing but CFR approved coverage so most of us remain ignorant.

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

Sorry to counterdict you but Rupert Murdoch owns Fox News lock, stock and barrel and if Alwaleed owned it, would it blast Muslims all the time, seeing that he is Muslim?

thusspokezarathustra 4 years, 10 months ago

Sorry Wounded but Al-Waleed owns 7% of Fox News Corp. through his Kingdom Holding Company which means that he is the second largest owner and that Rupert Murdoch doesn't own Fox News lock, stock and barrel. I doubt he cares how Fox News portrays muslims as long as Fox stays profitable.

voevoda 4 years, 10 months ago

Kenos, your statement about an "international Jewish conspiracy" has no basis in fact. Neither does Mr. Bennett's baseless speculation about the motives of American Muslims. It is irresponsible for both of you to promote fear and hatred against your fellow-Americans by disseminating misinformation.

mr_right_wing 4 years, 10 months ago

How ignorant are you people? Islam had nothing to do with 9/11. George W. flew all four of those planes and jumped out at the last second....I know...the man is incredible.

Then he causes Katrina; personally breaks the levee himself.

Causes the horrible earthquake in Haiti, and now he's trying to turn Clinton to the dark side (Bush-Clinton Haiti Relief Fund.)

Swims out to the Deepwater Horizon and dives to depths no ordinary human can to disable the blowout protector of the oil rig.....

He does all this and STILL has time to come put algae in our drinking water!

(While helping Iran with nuclear weapons.)

I don't know what Obama is gonna do....this is the most incredible criminal mind this planet has ever seen. I hate to say it, but I don't think he can be stopped.

Where will George W strike next? Batman, Superman....where are you?!?

Abdu Omar 4 years, 10 months ago

You are right and wrong Mr. Right Wing. Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11, terrorists did in its name. GW had nothing to do with it either as he cowed in a classroom in Florida.

voevoda 4 years, 10 months ago

Mr. Bennett starts from false premises. Consequently all his speculation must be dismissed as baseless. The mosque already exists at that site. It has been there for decades. Other mosques are located in the neighborhood, even closer to Ground Zero. None of these mosques have attracted gloating Islamists. The original name proposed for the community center, "Cordoba Center," does not signify a Muslim victory over Christians. It signifies a place and era in medieval Spain when Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived together in peace. (See Gerald Shenk, "What Went Right: Two Best Cases of Islam in Europe--Cordoba, Spain and Sarajevo, Bosnia.") For Muslims and Jews, the "Cordoba" reference is common knowledge.
Mr. Bennett should stop listening to the right-wing propaganda machine, and get his information instead for reputable sources.

Richard Payton 4 years, 10 months ago

The Globe newspaper at the grocery store states Obama is a Muslim with pictures of him.

monheim 4 years, 10 months ago

This letter is nothing but bald assertions and shoddy slippery slope arguments. You are free to keep an eye on this facility and organization and raise the alarm when you have a good reason to believe there actually ARE jihadists traveling here to pay homage to the terrorists, or if you have a good reason to believe the funding for this is coming from questionable sources. Until then, at least own up to the fact and admit that you just "don't like it".

Danimal 4 years, 10 months ago

Wait until they build it, then crash planes into it. Islamic law is pretty Hammurabian so they should understand.

On a serious note, people forget that the building that the mosque will replace was only condemned because large pieces of one of the aircraft that hit the World Trade Center came crashing through its roof and top two stories on 9/11/01. It's important to remember how widespread the destruction in lower Manhattan was that day, and that this space wouldn't even be available for new construction had it not been for 9/11. Keeping that in mind, it's extremely inconsiderate and in the worst taste to build a mosque there. It's absolutely within their rights to build it, but it's also within others rights to voice their disapproval.

beatrice 4 years, 10 months ago

We defend the Constitution. Sorry you aren't familiar with this document.

Ralph Reed 4 years, 10 months ago

Your first sentence indicates you were talking about "Christianity."

whats_going_on 4 years, 10 months ago

Why do libs so ferociously defend a religion that is full of homophobes, misogynist and religous fanatics?

because they have a freedom to practice their religion in this country, just like everyone else. I don't agree with any of them, but it's still a basic right. You know...like in the Constitution? yeah.

50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

It is now up to the Muslim community and muslims like you to disprove that the supicions we have are based on false information.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

It doesn't usually work that way - usually those who believe something and are trying to deny others the right to legally pursue their projects have to prove it first.

It's very hard to prove a negative.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

I have no idea what you're talking about.

jafs 4 years, 10 months ago

For example, I say that you are secretly working for the radical Islamists - prove me wrong.

Any actual evidence you may show is irrelevant - your work for them is secret.

50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

When have you said you wern't Muslim? You are always defending Islam.

whats_going_on 4 years, 10 months ago

well thats mature.

The only reason you aren't debating it anymore is because you can't stand that people view it differently. So...now who is close minded?

mbulicz 4 years, 10 months ago

A) This is a piece of purely speculative and disgustingly racist drivel.

B) We already have Christian churches that celebrate the [ongoing] deaths of thousands, including gays, soldiers, and even the 14 year old murdered girl in Great Bend. If yuo're really concerned with intolerant religion, how about you go to Topeka and have a chat with Fred?

whats_going_on 4 years, 10 months ago

haha, has anyone else noticed that he NEVER responds to these... :) pathetic.

thusspokezarathustra 4 years, 10 months ago

Tom's living the ideals of our Founding Fathers:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of hatefulness.

beatrice 4 years, 10 months ago

Except for that whole melting pot thing and people who aren't just like him, Tom loves America!

mbulicz 4 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for this. I've been laughing all morning.

Don Whiteley 4 years, 10 months ago

Hey, I'm not a guy without exposure to the Islamic religion, and to Islamic culture. I was in Saudi Arabia and the Emirates before and during Desert Shield, as a consultant, not in the military, and I tried to understand. What I came away with was an understanding that most Muslims in the Middle East disdain anything or anyone outside their religious culture. In America, Muslims think it racist that their women are not allowed to wear burkas in many places. In Saudia Arabia, all women were subject to Islamic Law and forced to cover their heads. Non-believers were dirt in their eyes, and Westerners the worst. I read the Qur'an trying to understand their faith and culture and found a book that made the Old Testament look gentle by comparison. Muslims who migrate to the West begin to moderate, but they are still strongly influenced by their old culture of hatred for anything or anyone non-Muslim, as Christians were 500 years ago, and occasionally still are.

I was also working directly across the river from the WTC on 9/11, and stood on the shores of the Hudson watching the horror that most Midwesterners will never understand. If Muslims around the world want to be accepted, then let them speak out against the 9/11 tragedy other than to say "don't blame us". They have made no efforts and still make no efforts to moderate radicalism in their religion. Regardless where the heart is of those building the mosque, it will eventually fall under the control of the meaner elements of their religion and become a shrine to martyr those who hate and murder in the name of Allah.

50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

Good Post, but falling on deaf ears on this forum.

whats_going_on 4 years, 10 months ago

I have a friend who is Muslim also and he is very respectful of everyone, whether they agree with him or not.

I mean...you can't say that some Christians aren't like that. Heck, there are some on this forum who think every non-believer is a piece of sh*t.

beatrice 4 years, 10 months ago

Since you claim the Middle East disdains people who aren't just like them, your response is to disdain people who aren't just like us? Because the Middle East is so terrible, your solution is that you want us to be just like them and disdain people not just like us? Got it.

whynaut 4 years, 10 months ago

To the editor:

Number of Comments Generated is not a good measure for the quality of a piece you decide to publish. A letter to the editor is what it is: a letter, an opinion. But by publishing it in the context of your reputation as a news source, you're stamping it as journalism. And this bit is pretty yellow.

Linda Endicott 4 years, 10 months ago

So, for all you fear-mongers out there...what is your excuse for the protests and violence concerning the building of a new mosque in Murfreesboro, Tenn.?

It is not anywhere near the World Trade Center.

It is not anywhere near the Pentagon.

It is not anywhere near a field in Pennsylvania.

It had nothing to do with 9/11 at all.

So why all the protests?

Linda Endicott 4 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, I recognize the sarcasm...lol

Too bad the die hards on here don't recognize morality and fundamental rights...

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