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Letters to the Editor

20-year tax

October 26, 2010

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To the editor:

This is in reference to the library’s $18 million tax issue. I thought the American way was equal coverage on election issues. This is definitely not true of the library issue. Big coverage on the front page for the $18 million library tax. Is this a paid ad or free gratis? If you look closely, you’ll find the vote “no” library tax ad on page 7D of Sunday’s Journal-World. I guess the equal status on some election issues is far from equal.

The editor’s note on the front page story states the $18 million “would be paid back through property taxes during the next 20 years.” Seems like every time there is a tax issue in Douglas County and Lawrence, it’s a mere 20 years. How many 20-year taxes are we paying now? The people on fixed incomes cannot afford another 20-year tax package. Vote “no” on library taxes. Do like people with fixed incomes do: Live with what you’ve got.

Robert Lemon,

Lawrence

Comments

kansasmutt 4 years, 3 months ago

Very true Robert. They seem to put what they like up front and anything else towards the back. How many 20 year taxes are on the books still ? Can a city leader give that info out and post it please.

cayenne1992 4 years, 3 months ago

"Lawrence has "ZERO" economic growth"

Care to provide a source?

"Heck, one has to PAY money to visit the town"

That's true just about anywhere you might travel to. Think gas, lodging, food, etc...

"So where do the Liberals get their money?"

Probably the same way conservatives get money.

JayhawksandHerd 4 years, 3 months ago

"So where do the Liberals get their money? Older people, common sense folk, that were prudent enough throughout their life to save money and buy a home."

And those older people get the money I pay into social security. What's your point? That only "older, common-sense folk" pay taxes?

Chris Ogle 4 years, 3 months ago

"Do like people with fixed incomes do: Live with what you’ve got."

Thank you Robert Lemon, for stating the obvious. Lawrence is supposed to be well educated, but for some reason they just don't "get it" (live within your means)

"How many 20-year taxes are we paying now? "

Now that's a good question..... Make a good article in LJW

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

The only downside to the proposed improvement to the library is the cost. Many believe that that's not an insignificant downside. The articles in the JW merely illustrate what we'll get if we, as voters, decide that it's worth the cost-- a cost that is outlined in each of these articles.

If you don't believe that the improvements as described are worth the cost, by all means, vote no. But don't bash the JW for attempting to help its readers make an informed choice.

Random56 4 years, 3 months ago

If you liked the article bozo that means Mr. Lemon is probably correct in his assertion of the papers pro-library view.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

Aside from explaining what the proposed improvements would mean to patrons of the library, and how much it will cost taxpayers, exactly what information do you think should be provided in these articles?

Just because they don't overtly bash the proposal as you apparently want them to do doesn't mean that the articles are "pro-library."

Random56 4 years, 3 months ago

I think we should improve our library, but 18 million is over the top in this economy. I don't think we should be bashing anything, we should find a fiscaly responsible plan that everyone agrees with.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

Well, we'll never get "everyone" to agree on anything, but I think there is an argument to be made that we don't need this particular proposal, and/or we don't need it right now.

On the other hand, if not now, when?

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps when the economy improves and we have fixed/maintained our infrastructure properly?

jafs 4 years, 3 months ago

So you think the economy will never improve, and that we will never fix/maintain our infrastructure?

That's a pretty pessimistic view, I'd say.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

Well, who knows what the economy is going to do? But I think it's safe to predict that the argument will always be made that we can't afford it, regardless of the state of the economy.

Lindsey Buscher 4 years, 3 months ago

"Do like people with fixed incomes do: Live with what you’ve got."

Why do conservitards always want to apply the principles of personal fiscal responsibility to Government spending. Not...the...same...thing. Y'know, I'm guessing, and believe me this is really grasping at straws here, but the original library wasn't paid for when it was built. Dammit outta control gomerment spending! They shoulda lived with what they had and not built a library in the first place! Your so smart, Robert Lemon, S...M...R...T.

Random56 4 years, 3 months ago

Sounds like puggy hates conservatives so much it distorts reality. I thought that if you spend more than you bring in (whether it's govt, business or personal) you go into debt.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

Individuals go into debt all the time. To buy cars, to buy houses, go to school, etc.

That doesn't mean that all debt is good. But not all debt is bad, either

Random56 4 years, 3 months ago

whether it's good or bad was not the conversation, puggy said that gov't debt is not the same as personal and I was saying that there are some similarities.

Lindsey Buscher 4 years, 3 months ago

"I was saying that there are some similarities."

So you agree with me, they are not the same. Debt is still debt, but Govt debt is not the same as individual debt.

Personal debt is accrued by spending on oneself while govt. debt is accrued by spending for EVERYONE.

Whoa hey there's a difference right there crazy.

Lindsey Buscher 4 years, 3 months ago

actually my distaste with conservitards is their distortion of reality. The reality is that most Cities and States have a "balanced budget" requirement as part of their constitution or statutes so we are not going to spend more than we take in. Furthermore, conservitards are so attached to the status quo that nothing would ever get done or built if it were left solely up to them.

conservative 4 years, 3 months ago

And the inability to prioritize and thinking that we should just do everything now regardless of economic realities of tards like you are why this city has among the highest tax rates in the state.

Lindsey Buscher 4 years, 3 months ago

"A government's balanced budget is accomplished by taxing its citizens."

Aww, another lovely conservitard distortion of reality. There are other sources of revenue than taxes.

jdid1019 4 years, 2 months ago

Puggy, "Your" is a possessive noun. I believe you meant to say "You are so smart, Robert Lemon..." In that case, you would use the contraction of "you" and "are", which is "you're".

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 3 months ago

If we can give $15 million worth of tax breaks for a parking garage for a hotel, and $3 million for a single intersection in N. Lawrence, we can afford library & parking improvements which should have been made 20 years ago.

Random56 4 years, 3 months ago

If we're spending all this $$$ might as well spend more huh.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 3 months ago

That depends on when you go. I think most of the time, when a majority of people are at work or otherwise occupied, it's not too bad. At peak times, it can be quite crowed. Whether it's "over crowded" is a matter of opinion.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 3 months ago

Be thankful the matter is put before the voters! This does not happen enough!

VOTE YES!

notajayhawk 4 years, 3 months ago

Will you be just a thankful if the vote is "no", merrill?

QuinnSutore 4 years, 3 months ago

Books are obsolete. We might as well invest in a building full of BetaMax tapes, mimeographs, and LPs.

Poor people can't read anyway, so they're not missing out on anything except a free shower and the opportunity to panhandle all the lib library patrons for booze money.

I cen find anything I need online for free. If someone can't do that in the 21st century, tough, I don't need to build a monument to your failure to adapt.

d_prowess 4 years, 3 months ago

Given that meeting space and computer space are two of the main areas of concern for this project, I don't understand why they have to be located in this library. Why couldn't we look to the community centers and have them share some of this burden or some other city spaces around town? I understand that maybe the operational expenses of having mini-libraries all over town could be too much, but the costs would have to be much lower for only meeting/computer space, right? Ignoring the $4 million for the parking structure, I still feel like $14 million is too much to add these things onto our library.

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