Archive for Monday, November 29, 2010

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius expects U.S. House to challenge health care law

November 29, 2010, 2:54 p.m. Updated November 29, 2010, 3:53 p.m.


— Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius predicted Monday that the U.S. House will pass a bill to repeal the health care reform law but said she doubts the effort will clear the Senate or that a court challenge against the law will be successful.

The former two-term Kansas governor, who delivered a Landon Lecture Monday at Kansas State University, expressed confidence that the sweeping legislation she helped craft will remain the law.

The U.S. Supreme Court will ultimately find the law's mandate for every American to have insurance is constitutional under the commerce clause, she said.

"This is a fairly novel point in law," Sebelius said.

Sebelius she is used to working with Republicans and looks forward to working with the House and others to implement the new law. Republicans controlled both chambers of the Kansas Legislature during her administration.

"I've never worked with a Democratic majority until I got to Washington," she said. "We will actively engage with folks."

Sebelius said she has not spoken to Republican Gov.-elect Sam Brownback about the law or his opposition to it. Brownback has vowed to do the minimum as governor to implement the law and says he will resist changes as often as possible.

Brownback takes office in January after the retirement of Democrat Gov. Mark Parkinson, who replaced Sebelius in 2009 when she was appointed HHS secretary.

Kansas is likely to join other states in challenging the law. Republican Attorney General-elect Derek Schmidt is reviewing the law and has said his administration would file to join other litigation shortly after taking office in January. But she said Kansas Insurance Commissioner Sandy Praeger has been involved in Washington in helping implement the law and the new regulations.

"Where Kansas will end up is a little hard to tell in the long run," Sebelius said of the affects of the law and its challenges.

The new federal health care law, along with slow economic growth, was a factor in the November election that saw Republicans take control of the U.S. House. The new GOP majority has vowed to send repeal legislation to the Senate and President Barack Obama weekly until changes are made.

But Sebelius said the more Americans go beyond "cable news" descriptions of the law and learn what it means to them for coverage, more understand that there are good aspects worth considering.

"The conversation changes," she said.

Sebelius devoted much of her address to a crowd about 400 at Kansas State to discussing the health care law and six areas of concentration, including cancer research, obesity, information technology and medical countermeasures to biological attack or pandemic disease outbreak.


ksjayhawk74 6 years ago

I'm soooo glad the GOP is going to spend so much of their time and taxpayer dollars trying to undo these changes that were desperately needed.

HINT: You should be trying to improve the Health Care System overhaul, not kill it, Idiots!!! For the love of God, make the public option available!!!

meggers 6 years ago

"For the love of God, make the public option available!!!"


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years ago

If it were so sad it'd be comical that know-nothings like you are so ignorant that you haven't figured out that Obamacare consists almost entirely of ideas floated by Republicans, for many years.

Obama's mistake was immediately staking out the so-called middle ground, only to have Republicans play the obstructionist game, and then let Obama take the blame for the bad ideas he mostly lifted straight from them.

kansanjayhawk 6 years ago

You can repair this bill it is unrepairable. It actually does the opposite of what it aimed for. Costs will skyrocket and quality of care will decline. Repeal the thing...

meggers 6 years ago

What nation(s) are you referring to? The Health Care Reform bill doesn't resemble the health care system of any other nation that I can think of.

Brian Laird 6 years ago

Oh you mean where they have better or equal outcomes for significantly lower cost. We wouldn't want that.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

Lordie but it gets tiresome hearing that same old tired line of BS. Because that's what it is, pure BS.

As far as costs go, there is no realistic reason to believe that altering a system to emulate another system that was developed over decades would result in anything close to the same cost savings.

As far as outcomes go, there is no objective measure of the outcome of health care systems that can be used to compare between countries. None.

Seriously, drop the liberal sound bites for a change.

Brian Laird 6 years ago

What a willfully ignorant set of statements. I didn't say we should emulate a particular system - there are an amazing variety - but it is a fact that there are many systems out there that are far less costly and in signficant ways more effective than the one currently in place in the US. This is not liberal BS, as you put it, it is fact.

As far as your claim that there are no objective measures that can be used to compare health systems, that IS pure BS. Your major problem is that most of these measurements do not support your ideological worldview, so that you must reject them independent of their validity.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

Really, boltzman? Care to give me an example of one of these objective measures? Let me guess, you're gonna' try saying longevity, or mortality rates, right?

If you're looking for an ideologue, boltz, might I suggest your bathroom mirror?

"but it is a fact that there are many systems out there that are far less costly and in signficant ways more effective"

I'll wait for you to explain what you mean by "more effective" before addressing that part (that ought to be amusing). And, um, duh, no kiddin', they spend less in other countries. I didn't say anything to the contrary. I said that changing the way we pay for our health care is not necessarily going to make it any cheaper here. Physicians in this country get paid twice what the physicians in some of those other countries do, boltz - do you think they're going to cut their rates in half if we change how we pay for their services?

Cait McKnelly 6 years ago

And you have Moocher? Care to share where you spent more than 2 weeks on a whirlwind tour?

Godot 6 years ago

"But she said Kansas Insurance Commissioner Sandy Praeger has been involved in Washington in helping implement the law and the new regulations."

sellout or mole, not sure which.

kansanjayhawk 6 years ago

Praeger should enjoy herself this will be her last term. Her true colors have been revealed and now she is unelectable...

Flap Doodle 6 years ago

Expecting a copy/pasting flurry from the usual suspect........

HW 6 years ago

"The former two-term Kansas governor".

Shouldn't that read "the former 1 1/2 term Kansas governor".

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years ago

Yea, she quit to take a promotion. What'd Sarah quit to do?

Cait McKnelly 6 years ago

Oh, like the No Child left Behind legislation that GWB calls the pride of his administration? Or do you mean defunding at the federal level and forcing the states to pick up the tab the way he did with the same legislation?

notajayhawk 6 years ago

"and forcing the states to pick up the tab"

Like they're already going to have to do with the increases to Medicaid, you mean?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years ago

There will be no repeal of Obamacare. Big Health likes the deal they bought, and they'll be paying Republicans to keep their hands off, because they really don't want anything like real reform, which would be a possibility if a full debate is ever allowed, making it possible for the majority of folks in this country who favor a public option to actually get their way.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years ago

Sigh. Yes, we know. You've seen Utopia, and all we have to do is magically dissolve government and the wondrous, perfect market will cary us away to the blissful land where everyone knows all the words to "I Did It My Way!! All human suffering will vanish from the earth, chased away by the Lord God Property Rights.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years ago

Oh, cut the BS. No matter what issue is up for discussion, your standard reply is that all we have to do to resolve that issue is to eliminate government.

You may not use the word "utopia,' but you're the energizer bunny of insisting that implementing a system that has never existed anywhere accept in your imagination would solve every problem that exists. "Utopia" just happens to be a shorthand way of describing your belief that all that is lacking is the implementation of your notion of ideological purity.

Cait McKnelly 6 years ago

Just to let ya know, L1, Ayn Rand repudiated her own philosophy in the end.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

"But she said Kansas Insurance Commissioner Sandy Praeger has been involved in Washington in helping implement the law and the new regulations."

Hmm. Now where are all the people who complain about Kobach working on projects outside the state, when he hasn't even started his job as SecState?

Cait McKnelly 6 years ago

She's actually doing her job as state insurance commissioner, Nota. Wow! What a concept!

notajayhawk 6 years ago

Working with Washington on federal legislation? Wow, cait, didn't know that was part of the job specification. But thanks for yet another fine example of the liberal mantra, "But ... but ... but ... but that's different!"

Cait McKnelly 6 years ago

"Working with Washington on federal legislation?" The legislation is already passed, Nota. It's the law. She has been in DC going to informational meetings on implementation of the law in this state. Prager is a Republican but if you want to keep flinging poo at a member of your own party go right ahead. I actually like Praeger. She's a gasp! moderate. But I'll be more than happy to replace her with a Dem if you like.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

It already passed, cait? Really? Gee, thanks! Whew, it's a good thing I called it "legislation" instead of a "bill" then, isn't it?

And thanks, cait, but the liberals on these boards fling quite enough poo for everyone. I never said there was anything wrong with what Praeger was doing, did I? (But don't let me interrupt your rant.) The point is that these threads are constantly full of whiners complaining about state officials working on national issues that affect the people of this state, but that the liberals are up in arms against. But just keep defending them, because after all, that's different.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

Oh, it's not hard to see the difference, "jstthefacts" [snicker]. As a matter of fact, if you improved your reading comprehension some, you'd notice I already pointed it out: If it's a national agenda that's favored by the Republicans, our state officials should stay out of it, but if it's something more consistent with what Madkow and Herr Olbermann told you to think today, than it's perfectly okay. That pretty much the difference you were referring to, troll?

notajayhawk 6 years ago

"But Sebelius said the more Americans go beyond "cable news" descriptions of the law and learn what it means to them for coverage, more understand that there are good aspects worth considering."

And yet, gee, opposition to the legislation is about the same as it was before it was passed, Kathy. Go figure. Maybe because that for every one that goes "beyond "cable news" descriptions of the law and learn what it means to them for coverage", there's another one that goes beyond the administration's propaganda and learns what it's gonna' cost us?

Or maybe the problem is that Congress shouldn't have forced through a mess that, a year later, people are still trying to figure out - amazing when one considers that our fine Democratic legislators seemed to be able to digest the whole 2600+ pages and all their ramifications overnight before voting on it.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

Still waiting for that quote from a Republican saying there's no need for health care reform, little one. While we're at it, how about that proof that Senators get different health care benefits than other federal employees?

Seriously, little one, is there some reason anyone should take anything you say seriously? That screen name (jstthefacts" [snicker]) was meant as sarcasm, right?

kansanjayhawk 6 years ago

It is amazing how liberal Kansas went with Sebelius! What were we thinking...

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