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Letters to the Editor

Israel warning

November 19, 2010

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To the editor:

I commend the Journal-World for its recent publication of Trudy Rubin’s hard warning against Israel’s disastrous theft of Palestinian land for “settlements.”

As she rightly says, the Netanyahu government’s promotion of the settlements acts in contempt of long-standing U.S. policy aiming at a two-state solution to this wretched conflict. It also inflames hostility to the U.S. and Israel all over the Islamic world, endangering our troops, who include several of my young relatives.

It’s time for Kansas member of the U.S. House and Senate to imitate Ms. Rubin and speak the truth about this conflict. She has. Will they?

Comments

TopJayhawk 3 years, 9 months ago

Yet everytime Isreal makes concessions, the Arab world and their lap dogs the Palastinians see this as weakness, and they use the advantage to attack.
This goes all the way back to Yassir Arafat.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

When did Israel ever make any concessions?

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jafs 3 years, 9 months ago

Rabin came to some sort of settlement, back in the day (Carter, I think, was president).

Then he was assassinated by right-wing Israelis.

The whole thing is a terrible tragedy, all around.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

And as for the Golan Heights, that's going to be returned as soon as a peace agreement is signed with Syria. Israel has no permanent claim to it.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

They did give back the entire Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza Strip, doesn't that count?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

I'd say that was more a strategic retreat from territory they didn't really want, so they didn't want to waste any of their resources trying to keep it.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

There was also never any historical precedent for keeping it anyway, since it was never part of Eretz Israel.

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gl0ck0wn3r 3 years, 9 months ago

Just curious bozo, what is your solution to this issue?

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jafs 3 years, 9 months ago

Both sides are at fault here.

Extremists on both sides of the conflict have historically undermined attempts to create lasting peace and a somewhat just outcome.

Moderates on both sides desire such an outcome.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

The story is, a majority of Israelis and Palestinians want a two state solution. The tragedy is, the majority also believes that it is not actually possible.

It's my opinion that since Arabs are allowed to be citizens of Israel (they are now 20% of the population), Jews should also be allowed to be citizens of Palestine. I'm afraid that isn't going to happen, though.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

Although there is some hope that in our progressively secular times, that may actually be the case someday. Maybe in hundreds of years,,,

And when that day comes, this conflict will look just as ridiculous as WW1 or WW2 does to us today.

I hope, anyway.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

"Jews should also be allowed to be citizens of Palestine."

At present, no one is a citizen of Palestine, since there is no country to be a citizen of.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

True, but we can hope someday there will be.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

Actually, seems to me that in the vast panarama of history, most religious conflicts seem to solve themselves eventually.

The problem is, eventually is just so damn slow!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

In most so-called religious conflicts, religion is merely the veneer, anyway. The real conflicts are economic-- two groups of people trying to claim the same territory and the resources that go with it.

That was the case in N. Ireland, and I think that's also the case in Palestine/Israel.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

Israel has very few resources. The only resource that Israel has is mostly the climate (mostly dry desert, actually), and the education and work ethic of its Jewish people.

The Arab nations ended up with all the oil. There's an old Jewish joke that goes something like:

Oh God! You led us for forty years through the Middle East! And then you led us to the only place that has no oil!

And the resources of the Occupied Territories? Is the handouts of the U.N. Sure, there are a few exports such as flowers from the Gaza Strip, but as for supporting themselves, the territories are certainly not self supporting yet. Not that there is anything wrong with that. After all, they are living in one of the most desolate places on the face of the planet.

If only they were only open to tourism, things would change overnight. But before that happens, peace is going to have to break out all over.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

Well, that's the problem-- resources are limited, and both cultures are trying to tap into more or less the exact same resources (and Palestinians have historically been among the best educated in the Middle East.)

As far as the Palestinian economy goes, Israel has found it in their interest to make sure that it is continually depressed.

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

Every Iranian and every Palistinian I ever worked with (yes, there were a few), was a great person and good at his job, that's for sure!

And religion was never formost in their mind, their main concern was the turmoil in their homeland, and what was happening to their families.

Well, for that matter, that goes for the Vietnamese people I worked with too. And now I noticed that my Hewlett Packard printer was made in Vietnam!

If only this curtain in the stage of history would part as fast!

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Ron Holzwarth 3 years, 9 months ago

There's something that we here in the United States don't seem to be aware of at a basic level. That's how terribly small Israel and the territories are.

Israel is about the size of New Jersey. The Gaza Strip is about the size of Seattle. Just to put it in perspective, ya know.

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jafs 3 years, 9 months ago

Yes.

It's a very small piece of land overall.

Do you think that either side would be willing to relocate is some nation offered them a similar amount of land?

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