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Police find firearm, marijuana in Free State student’s car

Police found a gun in a Free State High School student's car Thursday. School officials said they were notifying parents and students of the incident.

March 4, 2010

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Lawrence police discovered a firearm in a Free State High School sophomore male student’s vehicle on Thursday when officers were investigating an accident at the school.

No threats were made, and there was no incident with the firearm, said Julie Boyle, a school district spokeswoman. Police also found the suspect to be in possession of marijuana.

The school has initiated disciplinary action against the student and notified his parents. Free State administrators are also notifying parents, students and staff of the incident, Boyle said.

Information about criminal charges was unavailable Thursday evening.

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Blunt 4 years, 1 month ago

Redmoon, from your posts, I wonder how your family hasn't smoked pot just to be able to live with you.

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lounger 4 years, 1 month ago

It is sad how many people have an issue with the marijuana but not the gun.

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 1 month ago

none2, nobody is saying that marijuana is a cure all for society. but what we are saying seems fantastic because it seems to contradict everything the federal government has spewed forth for the last 70 years.

But factually, marijuana users aren't as violent as alcohol users. marijuana use does not cause death. marijuana use does not cause brain damage or make you stupid. prohibition does cost this country billions upon billions in law enforcement, lost wages, and lost tax revenue opportunities. All the while trampling on the rights of American citizens to do what they want with their bodies in the privacy of their own homes.

You can keep giving your money and lip service to prohibition (which has cost over a trillion dollars and locked up millions of American citizens in the last 3 decades, yetstill the drugs are better quality and easier for kids to attain than ever before).

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SpunKey 4 years, 1 month ago

30 years ago a LHS sophomore pulled his father's 22 out from under the driver's seat because HE ran a stop sign and was mad at my boyfriend and I for being in his way. By the time the police caught-up with the father and son at 8 pm, the dad said it was starter pistol (but could not produce one when asked to). The cops said "the courts will only make the father and son appear and then release the kid to the dad anyway.... and it seems the gun isn't in the car anymore..." so they did nothing. At the time I was really miffed!

Nowadays we are talking concealed weapon, school nodrug/gun zones, etc. and drug charges. This kid is sure getting multiple slaps and he was in an accident (not involving the gun)... didn't even flash the gun!

Do we call this progress and wonder why the judicial system is so backlogged that they can't process and hold hardened criminals...

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none2 4 years, 1 month ago

redmoonrising (anonymous) says…

...It's amazing that I've reached my 60's without ever smoking pot or owning a gun.

Surely then you must have been exposed to opinions beyond Lawrence. While gun ownership is rather frowned upon around here, lots here seem to worship pot. They want you to believe that pot makes one work wonders and sh&(*&t blunders. Some would have you think that it is the cure all for our economic woes. I'm just waiting for the pro-pot crowd to claim that this "herb" makes one walk on water and rise from the dead.

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LOLtrollLOL 4 years, 1 month ago

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MacHeath 4 years, 1 month ago

Without the knowing the background of the kid; which we don't, and will never... This is much addo about nothing.

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redmoonrising 4 years, 1 month ago

Aw shucks, the kid was just exercising his God given right to do a couple of things that might be illegal. What the h*ll do those school or law enforcement people know? Seems to be the attitude of lots of people in this town if it's anyone over the age of 18. So why put down the kid? It's amazing that I've reached my 60's without ever smoking pot or owning a gun.

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Monica Miller 4 years, 1 month ago

Wouldn't have had the weed if he could still get K2 probably. . .just sayin'

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georgiahawk 4 years, 1 month ago

Pot and guns, guns and pot, shooting and smoking, laughing and killing! Reminds me of my childhood! Don't deny these children the right to grow up like we did.

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BrianR 4 years, 1 month ago

Yes ChrisNyberg but if you accidentally shoot your novelty lighter, you're out of luck.

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cowboy 4 years, 1 month ago

Probably was going to a concert downtown that night , checklist...tickets yes , pot yes , pepper spray for bums , yes , gun for muggers ,check

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beerdrinkingfool 4 years, 1 month ago

Man back in the day everybody went to school with guns in their cars . I lived in St. Joseph Mo and we get up early and go hunting and then go to school and people had gun racks in the pickups and guns in their trunks . you go fishing you went wit ha .22 or a .38 incase you snagged a snapping turtle . Heck for speech class I was allowed to bring mt 9 X 57 mm mauser to school to show how to clean it . That was in the day when we really thought RED DAWN could happen tho

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feetup 4 years, 1 month ago

Im with monkey spunk, the weed is one thing, but the fact the kid felt he had to have a gun is entirely more severe and upsetting.

Ar u normal: i second that as well!!

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 1 month ago

Had marijuana been legal (taxed and regulated), there is a high probability that fewer kids would be interested in it. legalized marijuana would have removed the black market mentality, and his perceived need to protect himself.

I don't think that high school kids (or younger) should be using marijuana. But we can't stop kids from experimenting. All we can do is educate them with the REAL facts. Not this fairy tale that was made up as we went along over the last 70 years. If parents really wanted to "protect the children" they would immediately pull the plug on the war on drugs.

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hillbilly_jim 4 years, 1 month ago

Sounds like Big Twink to me. Anyone remember him?

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M. Lindeman 4 years, 1 month ago

twobigones (anonymous) says… You all need to quit debating, people with guns can kill, kill is forever, enough said !

rdragon writes:

Same as, people with cars kill, kill is forever, people with baseball bats kill, kill is forever, people with steak knives kill, kill is forever, enough said!

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Bob Kraxner 4 years, 1 month ago

So, does this mean that the kids car will be sold at auction,? like Steele's property? Will the parents of this kid be subjected to a search of their property? Will the kid be charged with posession and intent to distribute? I mean after all, pot is a controlled substance now isn't it?

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angel4dennis 4 years, 1 month ago

The article says he was a sophomore so that is 15-17 year old for the most part. He isn't old enough to lawfully carry a gun. The fact that there was also marijuana found in the car makes it even more disturbing. I hope that Free State officials, the Dg Co Sherriff, and his parents take this as a serious matter. If my kid was going to school there and I know they had found that stuff, I would rethink about sending my kid there IF THEY did nothing about it.

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Hop2It 4 years, 1 month ago

Okay...I must be tired. At first I thought it said that they found a fire alarm in his car. I was all Miss Emily Lutella wondering how he got a fire alarm in his car, and what the big deal was about a fire alarm.
I get it. G-U-N.
Never mind.

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rebeccafrazier 4 years, 1 month ago

For having drugs on you or in your vehicle on any school property carries a automatic year out of school suspension. And will have to more then like have to go on a pre felony diversion . And have to attend school at the day school at Lawrence Juvenile Detension Center.

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Liberty275 4 years, 1 month ago

If he was experimenting with the marijuana in question, I hope he was wearing a lab coat so he didn't get cookie crumbs on his clothes.

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oneeye_wilbur 4 years, 1 month ago

This story is just choice! Remember when WalMart wanted to build out by Free State and the parents were against it and others in the neighborhood because students might buy guns at Walmart. So , now we have a Walmart and you think maybe the kid did NOT buy the gun at Walmart.

Lawrence can'f figure out what is going on.

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twobigones 4 years, 1 month ago

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twobigones 4 years, 1 month ago

Unless you are a liberal.....keep blowing hot air!

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twobigones 4 years, 1 month ago

You all need to quit debating, people with guns can kill, kill is forever, enough said !

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workinghard 4 years, 1 month ago

Wondering if he was 18 or not. If he was a Senior, there are Senior boys that are over 18. That might affect how things turn out.

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Benjamin Roberts 4 years, 1 month ago

The student may have been in legal possession of the firearm. There is not enough information to tell. However, the law is clear that firearms are not allowed on school property, with few exceptions - none of which a student could meet. In addition to the legal problems he will most likely receive no less than one calendar year suspension from school. http://lpsnet.usd497.org/Conferences/BoardPolicyManual/S0272736A-04D82CFC

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puddleglum 4 years, 1 month ago

this is why every man woman and child should arm themselves with guns right now, before someone else gets a gun.

Puddleglum for govenor 2010: gotta be better than brownback!

vote for puddleglum, governor of KANSAS

i promise, I will pass legislation which will fine any state resident that does not own a handgun. even handless people, whom can figure out some way to shoot a pistol with their feet. oh, the reasoning? the forefathers suggested this penalty years ago. I'm just here to enforce it.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years, 1 month ago

"What is a High School student doing with a gun in the car (assuming it wasn't some shotgun in a rack in a pick up truck)."

I was a shotgun in the truck kid. I realize times are different now after Columbine.

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workinghard 4 years, 1 month ago

Sigmund--I did hear them yelling to him, if he came back for his car, and they would be watching, that they would arrest him. He didn't, thank heavens, because he was in no shape to drive. The car sat there until about 2:30 the next day.

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barrypenders 4 years, 1 month ago

Maryjane and guns go well together for the PADs that love the drug. Scientists claim that Stoners very rarely shoot anyone.

Stimulus, Transformation and Posercare live unprecedented

Darwin bless us all

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Sigmund 4 years, 1 month ago

workinghard (anonymous) says... "I watched as they let the person leave, so I believed what a police officer told me less than a month ago. If the officer was lying, that is not my fault. He told me and I believed him, I had no reason not to since he was a police officer."

I think you misunderstood what the officer told you or the officer misspoke. Even if, once the person crossed the street that would be public property. I would call the LPD non-emergency line and talk with a supervisor, perhaps they can clear it up for you.

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workinghard 4 years, 1 month ago

All I know is what the police officer told me. I had called them to remove an individual I found in my yard at midnight that would not leave. They came, searched the person who was obviously high, and found the marijuana. They came to the door and told me what they found and told me they could not arrest him because it was on private property. I watched as they let the person leave, so I believed what a police officer told me less than a month ago. If the officer was lying, that is not my fault. He told me and I believed him, I had no reason not to since he was a police officer.

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ChrisNyberg 4 years, 1 month ago

Cleaning my guns and doing bong hits in my front yard, I love this town!!!!

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ChrisNyberg 4 years, 1 month ago

Cleaning my guns and doing bong hits in my front yard, I love this town!!!!

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happy_go_lucky 4 years, 1 month ago

In the state of Kansas owning or transfering a firearm with a barrel less than 18 inches is illegal for anyone under the age of 21.

So that means a shotgun could be in the truck, and if I remember right Kansas doesn't have school carry laws... (not sure 100%)

If it was a handgun then it is illegal for the student to posses it. And whoever gave/sold him the gun would be in the same boat.

All that is the law on paper, in practice on the other hand, good luck finding out who sold the gun... This kid won't flip on whoever gave it to him.

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RoeDapple 4 years, 1 month ago

  1. Handgun registration is not required in Kansas.

  2. It is unlawful for the following persons to possess firearms:

A person, other than a law enforcement officer, in or on any school property or grounds with the following exceptions:

* Possession of any firearm in connection with a firearms safety course of instruction or firearms education course approved and authorized by the school.

* Any possession of any firearm specifically authorized in writing by the superintendent of any unified school district or the chief administrator of any accredited non-public school.

* Possession of a firearm secured in a motor vehicle by a parent, guardian, custodian or someone authorized to act in such person’s behalf who is delivering or collecting a student.

* Possession of a firearm secured in a motor vehicle by a registered voter who is on the school grounds, which contain a polling place for the purpose of voting during polling hours on an election day.
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paulette2 4 years, 1 month ago

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somebodynew 4 years, 1 month ago

TOB - While monkey may be a little off with the illegal and unregistered part, his/her main thought is correct. What is a High School student doing with a gun in the car (assuming it wasn't some shotgun in a rack in a pick up truck). Even that is Waaayyy against the rules. If it was some handgun it could very easily been illegal for him to have it. The registration part is completely wrong tho, I do agree.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years, 1 month ago

I'm real glad the internet era happened after I was out of high school.

"Most likely illegal and unregistered."

Link?

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somebodynew 4 years, 1 month ago

@Sigmund - don't enlighten the poor fool. Makes the arrests much easier and more fun for the officers if people actually believe the stuff they read on here.

Of course, Smitty, was_freash, and lguy40 would automatically assume workinghard is an LEO and has a conspiracy to spread false information and is cohoots with the Feds, CIA, DEA, and who knows who else. Oh and Olin is under investigation (I heard that on good authority).

Nothing like ending your evening with a smile and a chuckle.

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monkeyspunk 4 years, 1 month ago

Funny how the fact that he had mary jane is what people seemed to be riled up about. Not the fact that he had a gun! Most likely illegal and unregistered. No outcry about that?

I could care less if he had weed. I do care that he brought a gun onto campus.

F$#@ing priorities of you people...

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Sigmund 4 years, 1 month ago

workinghard (anonymous) says... "I was told by a police officer that if someone is found on private property with marijuana, they cannot charge them because it is on private property. So, if your on the street and the cops stop you and you have marijuana, step onto private property before they search you and you won't get charged."

Yes excellent advice! It is a little known fact that if you are on private property you can not be charged with a crime. Feel free to pot in plain sight on private property because the police cannot do a thing about it.

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Esq2eB 4 years, 1 month ago

Working Hard, that is quite possibly the most stupid advice I have ever heard someone give. Please follow it and then represent your self in trial. When the judge stops laughing and finds you guilty, let me know.

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macon47 4 years, 1 month ago

depends on who the kids folks are we may get a fulll report it may get swept under the rug as a private issue addressed by the school

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workinghard 4 years, 1 month ago

"Information about criminal charges was unavailable Thursday evening. I was told by a police officer that if someone is found on private property with marijuana, they cannot charge them because it is on private property. So, if your on the street and the cops stop you and you have marijuana, step onto private property before they search you and you won't get charged.

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distant_voice 4 years, 1 month ago

Topeka? And tell me what city applaudes the "Honk for Hemp" sign and the people who carry it? Our children only follow in the footsteps of those they see.

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del888 4 years, 1 month ago

Free State administrators are also notifying parents, students and staff of the incident, Boyle said. -- My child goes to school at Free State and I wasn't notified.

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ThoughtPonderer 4 years, 1 month ago

I realize the "must live in Topeka" comment is a sarcastic one, but really? Seems that marijuana is the thing to do. There are so many teenagers that are in posession of and experimenting with marijuana, and maybe even "addicted." Sad, but true.

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