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Group of Kansans plan Topeka rally over what they say are violations of state sovereignty

January 15, 2010

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— Kansans who believe the federal government is grabbing too much power away from the states want their legislators to lodge an official protest.

The Kansas Sovereignty Coalition is pushing a resolution in the Kansas Senate criticizing Congress and presidential administrations past and present. The resolution demands that the federal government stop violating the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The 10th Amendment says that powers not specifically delegated to the federal government are reserved for the states. The resolution says many federal laws and congressional proposals violate the amendment, though it doesn’t list examples.

The Senate Judiciary Committee was having a hearing Friday on the measure, which is sponsored by 24 Republicans, led by Mary Pilcher Cook, of Shawnee. The coalition was planning a rally afterward.

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Orwell 4 years, 3 months ago

They're only reading part of the Constitution, as usual. If a law actually violates the Tenth Amendment they have a remedy by taking a case to an Article Three federal court. The courts can and will invalidate unconstitutional statutes – See Marbury v. Madison, which has been the law of the land for over two centuries. Somehow that seems a more rational and effective course than passing a resolution in a state legislature.

Of course that would require this bunch to prove their claim of violation, instead of just whining about laws they don't like and stirring up a fuss with extremist rallies and divisive accusations.

Did any of these "public figures" ever take high school civics?

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

West_sider, that last post contradicts the entire spirit of what this so-called "rally" is claiming!

No one is against the 10th (or any) Amendment.

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pace 4 years, 3 months ago

The republicans do not have as an agenda what is the best for the country. They believe the lies the party poops out and embrace the hate. Pat robertson leads them, Sarah Palin is their mouth and Bush their economic advisor.

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West_Sider 4 years, 3 months ago

I would guess many of you laying down negative comments regarding the rally for the protection of states rights would be happy to know that state laws enacted as part of the medicinal marijuana movement (Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawai'i, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington) are receiving protection via the 10th amendment...http://www.times-standard.com/ci_10461558?source=most_viewed

"Put that in your pipe and smoke it"

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bd 4 years, 3 months ago

We need to take our lives back from the Feds! Our schools kids are suffering and they keep taxing us to death! I am ready for the new revolution!

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

Ah. And you were super-pissed when George W. Bush signed HR6166 into law, right? You know the one, that unconstitutionally suspended habeas corpus and was later overturned by the SCOTUS?

Where were all you constitutionally concerned folks back then?

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West_Sider 4 years, 3 months ago

Yet another power grab from the states...What do you want to bet that the 10 governors selected are Dem's from the states within each of the 10 FEMA regions.

http://gohsep.la.gov/femarelated/FEMARegMap.htm

Obama has issued another executive order, this time establishing a so-called “Council of Governors.”

The order, signed on January 11, further diminishes the sovereignty of the states and builds on a framework for possible martial law. The executive order was completely ignored by the corporate media.

“By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1822 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-181), and in order to strengthen further the partnership between the Federal Government and State governments to protect our Nation and its people and property,” the order reads.

The Council shall meet at the call of the Secretary of Defense or the Co-Chairs of the Council to exchange views, information, or advice with the Secretary of Defense; the Secretary of Homeland Security; the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; the Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement; the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and Americas’ Security Affairs; the Commander, United States Northern Command; the Chief, National Guard Bureau; the Commandant of the Coast Guard; and other appropriate officials of the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, and appropriate officials of other executive departments or agencies as may be designated by the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of Homeland Security.

In other words, the Pentagon and Homeland Security will give hand-picked governors their marching orders under the guise of “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States,” a direct violation of Posse Comitatus

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KawHawk 4 years, 3 months ago

"He's confirmed it with his contacts in northcom! Code red defcon 1!!!!"

Ooo ! Ooooo !

Break out the tinfoil hats !

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WilburM 4 years, 3 months ago

Best bunch of comments I've seen in a long time!! Where are the whackos?

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autie 4 years, 3 months ago

amendment, shamendament. That whole states right thing was pretty much decided in 1865 if you will recall.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

Here's a few examples of wisdom from these "concerned citizens":

"To show President Obama that our country is still a Christian nation, our group is trying to organize a nationwide prayer conference called "Come Back America" in which all faith community leaders and churches across the country go to their respective state capitols for a prayer vigil."

Um, if you're going to pretend to care about this country, you should probably be aware of some it's most basic tenants...like the fact that America is in no way a "Christian nation."

It gets better:

"What Happens if the Following Comes True ??? Obama Orders 1 Million US Troops To “Prepare For Civil War” • YOU GUYS BETTER READ THIS I HAVE IT CONFIRMED WITH MY CONTACTS IN NORTHCOM AND IT'S 100% REAL! THIS IS IT A CODE RED DEFCON 1 IT IS HERE THIS IS THE END GAME FOR AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT! "

He's confirmed it with his contacts in northcom! Code red defcon 1!!!!

I'm way, way more worried about these people than I am about terrorism, socialism, or h1n1.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

Here's an interesting little nugget: Google "Kansas Sovereignty Coalition" and you get the following URL - http://kansas912project.ning.com.

Ah. 9/12'ers. Dumber than a box of bullets, and nearly as dangerous.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

Where were these f***tards from 2001-2008?

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Boston_Corbett 4 years, 3 months ago

I wonder how many of the people in the Capitol today were there to turn in their Socialistic Medicare cards.

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Keith 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't know about the LJW, but there is a tremendous amount of stenography going on at the AP.

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Jimo 4 years, 3 months ago

"The 10th Amendment says that powers not specifically delegated to the federal government are reserved for the states."

No. This is both over- and under-inclusive of the text. The word "specifically" does not occur nor "federal government." What's more, the "powers" are for either the states "or the people."

I'm not surprised that the proponents of this "controversy" might want to distort the text but it's quite another thing for a newspaper to do so. Are the writers at LJW stenographers or journalists?

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Steve Bunch 4 years, 3 months ago

Morons. So many dim bulbs under that dome.

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georgiahawk 4 years, 3 months ago

Porch and Bob, you guys are going to make the tea-bagger heads explode using logic.

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Bob_Keeshan 4 years, 3 months ago

The supporters of this will claim it is about health care.

Well, the federal government is already spending over $1 billion on health care through the State of Kansas and Medicaid.

So if this resolution passes, will Kansas refuse that money? If so, then the only recourse will be to either raise enough revenue to cover that $1 billion shortfall or to eliminate 60% of the people on Medicaid.

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porch_person 4 years, 3 months ago

Well, we now know that 24 Republicans, including Mary Pilcher Cook, don't know that Kansas receives more Federal money than it is taxed.

This "10th Amendment" BS is going to be the "next big thing". One good thing is that it will be educational for everybody.

Is violation of the Tenth Amendment an ongoing problem? No.

Do "the Republicans" want to take over the functions that the Federal Government provides? "We can't do that. We'd have to raise state taxes! Why, I didn't think of that!!"

Another bozo parade. (with apologies to just_another_bozo_on_this_bus)

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