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NCAA: Referee made right call in KU’s victory over UCLA

The Fieldhouse watches in anticipation as Kansas forward Mario Little puts up the winning free throw against UCLA with a fraction of a second remaining on the clock during the second half, Thursday, Dec. 2, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

The Fieldhouse watches in anticipation as Kansas forward Mario Little puts up the winning free throw against UCLA with a fraction of a second remaining on the clock during the second half, Thursday, Dec. 2, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

December 4, 2010


John Adams, the NCAA’s coordinator of men’s basketball officials, on Friday said official Doug Sirmons made the correct foul call on UCLA’s Malcolm Lee with 0.7 seconds left in Kansas University’s 77-76 victory over the Bruins on Thursday night in Allen Fieldhouse.

The whistle sent Mario Little to the free-throw line for his game-winning free throw.

“The refs reacted properly,” Adams said in an interview with ESPN’s Andy Katz. “The only argument you can make is whether or not it was a foul. It’s a foul. The Kansas kid has control of the ball. It’s incredibly unfortunate to end the game like that. But I’ve looked at the tape and Doug called the foul like he’s supposed to.”

Lee bumped Little as the KU senior hoisted an off-balance 15-foot shot that barely beat the buzzer.

“It’s dangerous to read into every play in the game to see time, score and circumstances,” Adams told Katz. “If the kid has possession and gets fouled, it’s a foul. It’s incredibly unfortunate that it was at the expiration of time. In the old days you would walk away (because time appeared to have expired). But in this time we have the video to check on the monitor to see if there was time left on the clock (and there was).”

UCLA coach Ben Howland on Thursday night said it “was really, really a poor way to end a game on a call.”

KU coach Bill Self on Thursday indicated he hadn’t yet seen the tape but that Little told him a foul had been committed.

On Friday, Self told the Journal-World that he “saw the film, but I will not comment publicly on that.”

He was asked if it was the craziest conclusion to a game in his 18 years as a head coach.

“No, no. We’ve had wilder endings,” Self said. “We made it interesting for sure.”

He was displeased with KU’s play down the stretch. The Jayhawks led by seven points with 2:52 left and by six points at 2:08.

“We played poorly. We didn’t play with much energy,” Self said. “We had a couple individuals play well offensively, not defensively.”

Asked who made the difference for the Jayhawks in the team’s 64th straight homecourt victory, he said: “The fans made the difference because we didn’t play very well at all.”

Self took part in a 15-minute chat on Friday in advance of Tuesday’s Jimmy V. Classic game against Memphis (6 p.m., New York’s Madison Square Garden).

He was asked about KU’s 16-of-30 free throw shooting performance against the Bruins.

“I’m not a guy that talks about free throws a lot, but I will tell you that we will work on it,” Self said during the chat. “The problems are the mechanics and you can change that. We won’t dwell on it too much because if you do, it can have a negative effect on the player but we will work on it.”

Asked about KU’s strengths and weaknesses through seven games — all victories — Self said: “I think we’ve scored pretty easily and percentage-wise have shot the ball well (56.9 percent to foes’ 37.6). We need to get better in toughness type of plays and play more aggressive on defense.”

KU finishes series 3-1: KU completed play in the Big 12-Pac-10 Hardwood series with a 3-1 record. The Jayhawks split a two-year series with Arizona and went 2-0 versus UCLA.

The series runs out after this year and according to Big 12 Conference officials, will not continue because the Pac-10 wanted future games to be played at neutral sites. The Big 12 wants the games on campus.

“Personally we’ve always been in favor of it (series),” said KU schedule-maker Larry Keating. “It helps both conferences in getting good matchups. We (Big 12) were playing 12 games (a year) against good, quality BCS teams.

“We (Jayhawks) played teams we’d like to play and probably would have a chance to play anyway, but it helped teams in both leagues that had trouble getting quality teams to come to their building.”

KU, which has had a good relationship with the Pac-10, will likely extend a two-year home-and-home with Southern California to a four-year series. USC will visit KU on Dec. 18. The Jayhawks will return the trip next year.

“We had a discussion, not finalized either way, of going to a four-year deal — the middle two years — next year and the following year as our next Pac-10 Challenge games,” Keating said. “If it is not going forward, we’ll probably still play. If it happens, they’d come back in 2012 and we’d go there in 2013. We like it for recruiting purposes and we have a great fan base in California as well as Arizona and Nevada.”


rgh 7 years, 5 months ago

After seeing replay, I would say if Little is not fouled on the play, he has a legitimate shot for a jump shot to win the game. He clearly had the ball and the kid bumped him.

laughable 7 years, 5 months ago

Watched the replays numerous times. The "call" was fair. I feel sorry for the UCLA player who made the foul. That has to be a lot to carry around their campus. However, it was the correct call. It's too bad that the game had to end like that, but it certainly made it exciting. For the Jayhawks, it is the continuing of our home game win streak. My concern is that it should never have come down that ending. Too many points were given away at the end, and a bit weak on the defense. They are a great team, and hopefully will look at the game tape and make the necessary changes, etc

Abdu Omar 7 years, 5 months ago

Game's over guys and the best team won!

CLARKKENT 7 years, 5 months ago


rgh 7 years, 5 months ago

We won and are the better team but we've lost games to inferior teams before (take Bucknell and N. Iowa).

JustNoticed 7 years, 5 months ago

Please continue the series with the PAC 10. Let them have what they want. Play in Arrowhead Stadium!

sparky1958 7 years, 5 months ago

It was a bs call. The same call doesn't even raise a referee's eye brow any other time of the game so why should it get made when the game is on the line. The was so much diving for loose balls and basic banging during the game to make the play in question look like a pat on the rear from your mom.

Don Whiteley 7 years, 5 months ago

50 years of calls going in UCLA's favor, just because they were UCLA and everyone is complaining about this one call? Time to go home on put on your big girl panties.

Mo Meza 7 years, 5 months ago

It's interesting to see why some of you are against KU. The answer is because we have some of you that root for KSU or MU and hate to see KU winning. For the KSU followers: Tell us why your team does't play ARIZONA or UCLA instead of playing the little teams? Your team almost lost to the Presbeterian team and had Emporia State as a regular season game. Are these the teams that a top ten ranked team plays? At the time your team played Duke, your team was ranked #3 and they lost, in Kansas City (considered a home game) and lost by a lot. A #3 ranked team should be able to beat or a least play a close game, and your team didn't. So, this make you think whether your team is really a top ten team, is it?

Zoee 7 years, 5 months ago

My points exactly when talking with KSU fans.

notajayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

"John Adams, the NCAA’s coordinator of men’s basketball officials, on Friday said official Doug Sirmons made the correct foul call"

As I said on the other thread about this, I'm really looking forward to the day when we hear the NCAA’s coordinator of men’s basketball officials say "Yep, we really #$%&@ed THAT* one up!!!"

JustNoticed 7 years, 5 months ago

Yep. As Archie Cusack says to a henchman as brother Joey escapes, "How could you possibley #$%&*@ that up?!!"

JayCat_67 7 years, 5 months ago

If it was a foul during the other 39:59 of the game, it's a foul in the last 00:01. Simple. Or put another way, if you don't want to lose a game on a foul call in the last second, don't foul in the last second.

notajayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

He grabbed the ball, forced his way between two defenders, and threw up an off-balance desperation shot. Not a play you see very often in the other 39:59 of the game.

I know what the rule book says and following the letter of that book, you're absolutely correct. But it has been common practice of NCAA officials for years to not blow that whistle in the last second unless the infraction was something that affected the outcome of the game, and I don't think the contact in this case qualified. I also think it was just a plain bad call.

That being said, as I also said on yet another of the threads about the ending of this game, if it was a "lucky" break, Little made his own luck. He had the presence of mind and the quick reactions to dive in after the ball following the UCLA steal and force a shot off, in just a fraction of a second. He put himself in position to get that call. That kind of talent and determination probably would have resulted in a KU win in overtime, anyway.

Don Whiteley 7 years, 5 months ago

It goes a long way back, all the way to 1969 when Drake played UCLA in the Final Four. Dolph Pulliam (Drake) went up for an inside shot in the last seconds of the game. He wasn't just fouled by Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabar), off-court it could have been called assault and battery and every paper in the country showed it the next day, but the refs didn't call it: one because it was near the end of the game, two because it would have been on UCLA's top player, and three, because UCLA was the nation's top team and Drake was just a Cinderella. By not calling the foul, the refs affected the outcome of that game and sent UCLA to a national championship instead of home in ignominious defeat as they deserved. What goes around, comes around. A foul is a foul and needs to be called whenever it occurs.

ConcernedAmerican 7 years, 5 months ago

Would there be all of this concern about how the game ended if UCLA had got the last call in their favor and they won by 1 point in the last .07 seconds? Would Andy Katz, of ESPN, been as concerned over the call and to make such a big deal out of it if Kansas had lost? Would it had been better to have a call like that made within the last 2 or 3 seconds so it would have given UCLA a chance to prove whether they could beat the #4 team on a really bad night? How many times have we watched Duke or North Carolina pull out a game on a last second foul after their big star player basically plowed into the opponents body? How many times has Andy Katz questioned those calls? Kansas won the game, get over it.

notajayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

Would all the fans in Lawrence be saying it was the right call and had to be made if UCLA had got the last call in their favor and they won by 1 point in the last .07 seconds?

Linda Endicott 7 years, 5 months ago

Yes...and then they all would be talking about how foolish and stupid the KU player would have been for making a foul like that at the last second...

Just the same as the UCLA player was foolish and stupid to do it...

Kind of like the player on Michigan that year in the championship game, when he called a time-out at the last minute...only his team didn't have any time-outs left, which made it an automatic technical...that was kind of stupid, too...

Kontum1972 7 years, 5 months ago

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2002 7 years, 5 months ago

The moving screen (actually a complete clear out) on UCLA's last three makes the entire "was it a good call" discussion moot. Honeycutt never gets the three off without the clear out. I've watched it several times and the "so-called" screen made all the difference.

On it's own, was it the right call? Maybe the right call, but pretty cheap.

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