Archive for Thursday, August 19, 2010

Woman killed in head-on collision on K-10

Westbound traffic on K-10 was shut down on Thursday, August 19 after a fatal accident near Lexington Avenue.

Westbound traffic on K-10 was shut down on Thursday, August 19 after a fatal accident near Lexington Avenue.

August 19, 2010, 9:08 a.m. Updated August 19, 2010, 3:29 p.m.

Fatal crash on K-10

This video by LJWorld.com reader Brian Heili was taken about 8:40 a.m. Thursday. It shows the scene of a fatal accident on K-10 near Lexington Avenue. Heili's wife, Angela, submitted the video to LJWorld.com. Enlarge video

Lawrence woman killed in accident on K-10

The 23-year-old woman was in a head-on collision with a FedEx truck. She was wearing her seat belt. Enlarge video

K-10 and Lexington Ave.
Westbound K-10 just west of De Soto was shut down Thursday, August 19 due to a fatality accident.

Westbound K-10 just west of De Soto was shut down Thursday, August 19 due to a fatality accident.

— A 23-year-old Lawrence woman died Thursday morning in a head-on collision on Kansas Highway 10.

Amanda Newton was driving east on K-10 when her Ford Escort crossed the median and hit a FedEx truck heading west at 8:20 a.m. just west of De Soto.

Newton was killed and the driver of the truck, Donavan Henderson, of Kansas City, Mo., was injured. Henderson is in stable condition at Overland Park Regional Medical Center.

Westbound lanes of K-10 at Lexington Avenue were closed and eastbound traffic was reduced to one lane for nearly four and a half hours while crews cleared the scene.

Comments

StirrrThePot 4 years, 10 months ago

I was headed eastbound not long after this happened. An eastbound car crossed the median and struck a FedEx truck. I saw the wrecked FedEx truck halfway off the road and what was left of the car in the median. Very tragic, my heart goes out to the victims.

Sigmund 4 years, 10 months ago

Yep, that matches the carnage I saw, horrific.I would guess 3-4 other vehicles also involved (ie totalled). Any indication why the car crossed the median as there appeared to be damage to vehicles on both sides of the road.

StirrrThePot 4 years, 10 months ago

No clue as to why.

Makes me glad I was a little late getting out this morning though. If I had been out as normal I would have witnessed the thing as it happened, or quite possibly even been in the middle of it.

oliveoyl 4 years, 10 months ago

It's possible they may have had a heart attack. I've witnessed a car cross the median before. Luckily everyone on the road was able to swerve and miss the car but the car ended up flying down a ravine instead. Thankfully the man lived, as the small trees slowed his car down, but he said that he thought he was having a heart attack when it happened and lost control of the car. It was very scary but no one was hurt. My heart goes out to the families of everyone involved today.

BruceWayne 4 years, 10 months ago

I drove by within 15 minutes of the accident. Where were the other cars involved? The 3-4 you saw?

Sigmund 4 years, 10 months ago

The 3-4 other vehicles I saw were in the median and off to the sides, they looked totalled but upright and very survivable.

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 10 months ago

What median? That's part of the problem if you ask me...

dontcallmedan 4 years, 10 months ago

Concrete dividers ala the turnpike. What's a life worth?

William Pike 4 years, 10 months ago

K10 has needed wire ropes for years. This happens at leat 1 time per year

avenger 4 years, 10 months ago

Our FedEx driver just came into our office and told us that the other driver was the fatality and the FedEx driver is being life-flighted out. Hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their families.

Angela Heili 4 years, 10 months ago

My husband drove past it this morning. He sent me a short video of the accident scene. The car was so mangled they had a blanket covering what was left of it. Very, very sad. Life is just too darn short.

Angela Heili 4 years, 10 months ago

I thought I would add that my husband was a passenger in the car when he took the video. He wasn't driving.

Angela Heili 4 years, 10 months ago

LOL, as impressive as it may sound, it would have been stupid on his part to film while driving considering the accident may have been caused by texting and driving! I wanted to thwart any virtual arrows shot my way! :-)

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

compmd 4 years, 10 months ago

I saw the accident this morning just as all the first responders arrived; the word horrific just isn't strong enough to describe the scene. The car that hit the truck was obliterated. There was nothing from the firewall forward, and the front of the passenger compartment was crushed badly. I felt awful seeing an ambulance driving away from the scene slowly.

Verdad 4 years, 10 months ago

I'm glad I went to work early this morning

zts_gixx 4 years, 10 months ago

I drove past this a little after 9am......WOW....that Escort was destroyed. I guess there was a survivor in the car. By the looks of it I'm not sure how they survived, but the driver is dead. Terrible terrible. I've drivin K-10 commuting 11 yrs now and I've seen some bad stuff happen right in front of me...roll overs, deer plowed ect....They need to put a cable divider/barrier of some sort on this Hiway. Prayers go out to the victims and thier families :(

crazyredneckmomma4 4 years, 10 months ago

i agree with ztx_gixx about there needs to be a cable or barrier on this highway!!! Alot of lives would of and could be saved!!!!! I hope someone that has the power to make the cable or barrier happen is reading this!!

Deja Coffin 4 years, 10 months ago

Almost a year ago, my friend's mom passed away from an accident in between Eudora and Lawrence where a driver going the opposite direction hit her head on. I absolutely agree there needs to be something dividing the two sides of the highway.

Deja Coffin 4 years, 10 months ago

Actually it's been over a year.... perhaps countrygirl and I are talking about the same person. I'm not sure what she was driving.

Patrick Rooney 4 years, 10 months ago

yes, that was my mother in law. That is chilling. They need to face it that people arnt going to change there reckless driving and put some mediums in there. (grass isnt a barrier).

countrygirl 4 years, 10 months ago

The whole thing just gives me chills. I lost a friend to a crossover accident on K-10 not quite two years ago near Eudora. She had just dropped her kids off at school and was heading to work when an east bound car crossed the median and hit her head on. She was driving an escort and it was bad enough they had a blanket over her car after they cut her out of it. Feels a bit like a replay of a really bad nightmare. My heart goes out to all involved.

Patrick Rooney 4 years, 10 months ago

She was my mother in law, and would like to tell you that her boys are doing good, as is my wife. One day Kdot will come to there senses.

dinoman 4 years, 10 months ago

TO ALL INVOLVED THIS IS A TRAGIC ACCIDENT.. BUT IF I RECALL THERE WAS ALSO AN ACCIDENT IN THE EUDORA AREA SAME HIGHWAY JUST LAST NIGHT INVOLVING A PICKUP AND TWO CARS IN THE MEDIAN AGAIN. I TO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD AT LEAST BE A DIVIDER... TO ALL PAY ATTENTION AND SLOW DOWN YOU CAN STILL MAKE IT TO WORK... AGAIN MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL INVOLVED

CHKNLTL 4 years, 10 months ago

I hope that wasn't my new Fed Ex delivery guy! Those guys work real hard on the job, without AC and everything. I bet the person that crossed the median was TEXTING!!

compmd 4 years, 10 months ago

"I bet the person that crossed the median was texting!!"

Your sky, its falling.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. If they were I wish the story would be updated to show that fact. It would help get it in peoples heads that texting is worse than driving drunk. Actually, by over a factor of two by many test.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

upsman 4 years, 10 months ago

Hate to tell you but most fed-ex delivery vehicles do have a/c....not ups. not even one.

latinjay67 4 years, 10 months ago

So, your more concerned with correcting the fact that FedEx trucks have a/c as opposed to your UPS trucks????? ARE YOU SERIOUS????? Someone just lost a daughter, or a sister, and a Fellow delivery driver is seriously hurt! I hope your company has people with greater sensitivity than yourself! My prayers go out to both families.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

no_thanks 4 years, 10 months ago

Texting and driving is a HUGE issue and failure to acknowledge it as such is sheer ignorance. I'm not advocating that's what happened here, but I take great exception to your comment on texting and driving.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

As do I. Jihadist, I agree with everything you said EXCEPT the blackberry thing. Odds are that if you keep that up you could very well be subject of a future story such as this one. I just hope I'm not involved in it since I too drive K-10 each morning and evening.

Food_for_Thought 4 years, 10 months ago

It occurred roughly 8 in the morning. Keep in mind there are many men and women who work nights and drive home exhausted and sleep-deprived. This poor woman may have very well fallen asleep at the wheel and crossed the median.

dinoman 4 years, 10 months ago

PLAYING ON BLACKBERRY WHILE DRIVING STUPID ADMITTING TO IT PRICELESS HOPE IT DOSN'T COST SOMEONE THERE LIFE...

cozy 4 years, 10 months ago

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thelonious 4 years, 10 months ago

jihadist says:

"I play brick breaker on my blackberry everyday during my commute on K-10, no problems."

Should have added the word "yet" to the end of that sentence.

If you keep playing games on your blackberry, texting, whatever during your commute, there will be a story like this one about you someday, and unfortunately you will probably take some innocent victim(s) witht you.

kernal 4 years, 10 months ago

jihadist, that is just plain reckless and irresponsible. If you don't care about your own life, at least give consideration to the other people on the road when you are. Better yet, get a third shift job when fewer people are on the road. How about giving us the make and model of your car and your tag number as well so we can stay clear of you?

tigerlil42 4 years, 10 months ago

Jihadist says "People not being able to stay on the road is the problem. " You playing games on blackberry. You will be the dumba** that not be able to stay on the road. You will be the casualty, along with anyone else unfortunate enough to be on road in your way. but probably you will not suffer, only ones who get taken out by your stupidity. QUIT PLAYING YOUR GAME WHILE DRIVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

69mustang 4 years, 10 months ago

You're an idiot jihadist. Considering your head seems to be made of brick, I would guess that you playing that game while driving is prophetic of your future. What's unfortunate is someone else's innocent life will be taken in the process and you and your big useless brick will be to blame.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

They have their directions backwards. The accident occurred as reported, but the eastbound lanes are the ones shut down. The west bound was down to one lane when I came through this morning.

There is no need to avoid K-10 as long as you drive with the flow of traffic and pay attention. The crowd that refuses to match traffic is what causes most of the problems. And by match traffic I mean running at around 75 mph. 60-65 mph or slower is a hazard when 98% are commuting at the high speed.

BruceWayne 4 years, 10 months ago

east bound lanes have remained open entire time. fed ex was west bound,escort east bound and crossed into west bound. as of this posting west bound was still closed due to the investigation.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

West bound was down to one lane at 9:10am.

n2band 4 years, 10 months ago

I was driving back to Lawrence after an appointment in Olathe this morning around 10:15. Sheriff's department was directing traffic off of the highway onto Lexington still at that time. Couldn't get back onto K-10 until Evening Star road.

David Albertson 4 years, 10 months ago

How many times does this have to happen before they put some type of barrier in the median? KDOT needs to pull thier head our of thier a$$.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

Honestly, I think drivers need to pull their head's out of their a$$es.

Velcrow 4 years, 10 months ago

you are of course assuming it is never a medical issue which would mean it has nothing to do with a driver's head or *ss. heart maybe or perhaps head after all if it is a stroke. Yeah quite sure it is a KDOT issue.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

You are assuming it is, and in all the stories about people wandering across the median, I have yet to see the reason be a medical issue. Excuses, excuses.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

"Driver of vehicle 1, male age 76 died 12/26/06 in Johnson Co as a result of driver 1 suffered from cardiac arrest while driving north on roadway. Vehicle 1 subsequently veered off road and into the ditch on the west side. Vehicle 1 returned to the roadway briefly before leaving the road again on the west side, striking a culvert at the south side of the private drive. Safety restraint not used."

http://www.ksdot.org:9080/burtrafficsaf/fatalities/fatalitydetail06.asp

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

Oh, look, you found one from 2006 that doesn't even look like it happened on K10, from what I can tell. Good research!

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

K10 has to do with it specifically because that's where the accident happened. Duh? I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that most of those cross median accidents on K10 happen because of bad drivers and not because of medical conditions. You say I'm so quick to judge even though I said nothing about this driver in particular, but you are so quick to say it was a medical condition without any evidence either. Like I said below, get over yourself.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

You need to get over yourself. I said absolutely nothing about this young woman and made a comment about drivers in general. You shouldn't take yourself so seriously.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

mizzou_jayhawk 4 years, 10 months ago

Seeing that this fatal crash was the result of a median cross over and several of the comments about median guard cable, it's perhaps worthwhile to consider a few of the facts about median guard cable barriers.

Our neighbors to the east (Missouri) have an extensive policy and widespread implementation of the cable barriers. The Missouri policy is to install cable median barriers on Interstate highways where the median is less than 60 feet. (source: http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/trnews/trnews248rpo.pdf). To be fair K-10 is not an interstate highway, however with a median width of about 45-60 feet at the crash location, and given the average daily traffic count along all of K-10 it would warrant further consideration.

In Kansas, K-10 is easily one of the highest volume roads in the state. The only roads with more average daily traffic volume are I-70 from the Missouri border to just west of Topeka at K-4, I-670, I-435, I-35, I-635, and small segments of both Roe and Metcalf streets immediately south of I-35 (near the Wyandotte & Johnson County border). What stands out about this list, is that all of these (except for the several blocks of Metcalf and Roe streets which do not have a similar speed limit) have a concrete median barrier. Granted, the median widths at these locations would otherwise be about twenty-five feet.

Before jumping in too far arguing for a median guard cable, it would be prudent to have a grasp on the number of median cross over crashes that have occurred on a yearly basis for the last few years. This would help to frame the argument in context of however big(or small) this problem is.

Another interesting study from just last year to read is from the Texas Transportation Institute on the development of guidelines for a Texas cable median barrier policy (http://tti.tamu.edu/documents/0-5609-2.pdf). If you notice on page 2-7 (Figure 2-4) Kansas is just one of five states in the to not have any cable median barriers installed (the other states are California, Massachusetts, South Dakota, and Vermont). If you read through their report, they have an interesting plot of actual crash data, against the current general engineering guidance (Figure 2-12). Based on the current general engineering guidance, K-10 falls into the "Barrier Recommended See Note" category. This essentially means that en engineering study based on crash history should be conducted to determine if there is a crash problem, and if such crashes would have been preventable with a median barrier. The study also points out that North Carolina are using guard cable in medians up to and less than 70 feet (page 2-15).

mizzou_jayhawk 4 years, 10 months ago

It is also important to recognize that in erecting a cable median barrier, a spike property damage only crashes would also occur as drivers no longer have the full width of the median to recover from errantly leaving the roadway. Thus the reduced recovery area might cause some more vehicles to be in a crash that they otherwise would have recovered and returned to the roadway without further incident. Also, when considering the crash history, one must also consider the traffic volume in the opposing lanes as if the there are sufficient gaps, then an errant driver has that additional width to safely recover, but with a median barrier in place these turn into crashes. Clearly these latent crashes pail in comparison to any single fatal crash.

An Associated Press story from 2008 on this notes that Kansas has looked into median guard cable before http://cjonline.com/stories/122808/kan_371705361.shtml

sweetiepie 4 years, 10 months ago

thanks for all the information--you've given me answers to questions I've asked for years--and I really do think that they need some sort of median barrier there.

leannh 4 years, 10 months ago

My brother has been a FedEx courier in Lawrence for 15 years. Until June of last year his "communte" to work was a quick drive to the station on Haskel. FedEx decided to save money and closed the station. My brother and the rest of the Lawrence team now drive to the Lenexa station to work, load their trucks, drive back to Lawrence, deliver all day, drive back to Lenexa, unload, clock out, get back in their vehicles and drive back to Lawrence. All on K-10. Instead of one morning delivery via semi truck from Lenexa to Lawrence, each courier now drives to Lenexa to get his/her load. If your mission statement is true and your employees come first. How much money has FedEx really saved? The family of the courier who was driving that truck this morning want to know. My heart goes out to the woman who died this morning. Her family is in a mourning I can't imagine.

Bobo Fleming 4 years, 10 months ago

It might help if people didnt think of K-10 as a NASCAR track. I drive my Honda Hybrid out there at 65 mph. People whiz around me driving like they are in the Dayton 500. Its easy to feel sorry for the victims and talk about median problems. How about if everybody just SLOWS DOWN. Not going to happen is it?

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

Senegal,

Please read my reply to Pywacket (above) .... it's a commuter corridor. These highways have always and will always consist of people trying to get to work on time and pushing the speed limit.

I do not condone the 80, 85 mph crowd, but for the most part that isn't the case. I sit comfortably (most days) in the right lane with cruise control on 75mph. The higher speed folks meander by in the left lane and those with a like mind with me cruise fine in the right lane. That is until someone going 5 miles under the speed limit just about causes a 10 car pile up.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

....those folks are normally driving a prius with vanity plates.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

The speed limit is 70. How about you speed up?

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's the prudent thing to do. No one is claiming the hybrid driver is breaking the law, he's just presenting himself as a hazard.

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 10 months ago

I think the same applies to going over 70 mph.
Just because you can and everyone else is, doesn't mean you should or have to.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

You are correct. But, when 98% of the traffic is running at that speed it's dangerous to impede it. Right wrong indifferent, your arguement, while being altruistic, is pointless in this case. One can either try there best to be safe given a situation or they can fly their flag of opposition and potentially end up in the ambulance.... but, hey they had their stand!

It would be better for all of us if we consumed organic produce too.

monkeyspunk 4 years, 10 months ago

So accidents on K-10 happen because people drive too slow for the flow?

You are high right? Because only an idiot would soberly think something like this is actually true. Provide some evidence to your brilliant theory please.

I would wager that an overwhelming number of cross median accidents occur because of equipment failure ( blown out tire) or inattentive driving leading to overcorrection.

Drive your car at an object at 10 MPH, figure out how close you would have to be to avoid it from 100 meters, 50 meters. You will be surprised just how slow 10 MPH is and then perhaps you will realize that a 75 MPH car has plenty of time to avoid a 65 MPH car as long as the idiot in the 75MPH car is paying attention.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

"Occupant 2 of vehicle 1, female age 86 died in Johnson Co as a result of vehicle 2 stopped, vehicle 1 struck vehicle 2 and vehicle 3 struck vehicle 2. Safety restraint not used."

http://www.ksdot.org:9080/burtrafficsaf/fatalities/fatalitydetail06.asp

cozy 4 years, 10 months ago

Maybe you should consider the idiots that drive 65 in the left lane, even 70. There are signs posted for the law stating "keep right except to pass". Now, if the morons would actually keep right and move over immediately after passing someone there would be better traffic flow and less road rage.

cozy 4 years, 10 months ago

They should be able to fly by because no matter what you are supposed to go back into the right lane after passing. They, at 85-90, should be getting back into the right lane after passing as well. If they are speeding, thats on them. They can get pulled over if they like.

Velcrow 4 years, 10 months ago

Forget what the sign says. I dropped my speed when gas prices went up. good ol 55-65 for best output for your buck.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

Of course, every factor you listed can and do cause accidents.

People doing the crossword, playing on their blackberry, or just plain falling asleep I would suppose. The behaviour I am speaking to is someone going 10-15 mph slower than the rest of the traffic around him. There are factors that mitigate this... people driving too close to those in front of them, true... I will concede that point.

I drive K-10 everyday so my evidence is as an eye witness. Most of the near misses and accidents that I have personally witnessed have been due to traffic approaching an accident scene, construction area or a SLOW DRIVER.

coloradoan 4 years, 10 months ago

Duh. The "limit" is a maximum, not a minimum. And it is to be adjusted for conditions, usually downward, for ice, snow, rain, congestion or fog. Normally I drive the limit, but when conditions warrant, I adjust. There is no obligation or duty on my part to speed up to accomodate you and your impatience.

Keep the shiny side up.

jhawks1234 4 years, 10 months ago

I like how you included the fact you own a hybrid

Bunny_Hotcakes 4 years, 10 months ago

This made me think of the "Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Own A Television" article from the onion.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/

I don't mind people going a bit under the limit, but what I really hate are people who camp out in the left lane no matter what speed they're driving. It makes it difficult to get around guys driving 65 who enjoy the smell of their own farts.

upsman 4 years, 10 months ago

you ARE part of the problem.......the speed limit is 70 have the common courtesy to drive at least that fast.....and for gods sake stay out of the passing lane

Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

Get a car that can go faster than 65 in a 70. Most people drive 75 to 80 so you are driving too slow. It has been proven that driving well below the norm is more dangerous than driving over it.

Brad Maestas 4 years, 10 months ago

65 mph is not "well below" 75 or 80 mph. Now 60 or below, then we're talking. Tthere are two lanes for a reason. It's the combination of law-abiding citizens and self-entitled speeders that make deadly roadways.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

Bushes aren't going to stop a car at any speed and they will require maintenance.

I commented some time ago when K-10 speeds were an issue here that I have personally witnessed the benefit of the cable barrier in that crappy state to our east. They work. Amazingly so. During one trip to STL I counted 31 cars tangled up in the cable divider, during an ice storm. If they save one life a year then the whatever the cost, it's worth it.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

"I must say that I think the poster, oliveoyl, may have been correct. Perhaps the driver indeed had a heart attack. I seems so strange that under ordinary circumstances a car would cross such a big wide median and hit another vehicle"

Um, how long have you lived here? K10 has been a mess of fiery, cross-median wrecks for years now that have had nothing to do with medical conditions.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

23 is mighty young for a heart attack. Remember the 16 year old that had a similar crash in KC a little over a year ago? She was texting.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

Bobo Fleming 4 years, 10 months ago

Liike I said. Slow down...not going to happen. As for me I'll just meander along at my 65 getting 50 mpg and wonder about all you other guys and say "Whats the hurry." Oh by the way I'm retired which will probably cause a whole lot more comments. But I don't wear a hat when I drive . My first car was a 58 Ford with a 400 engine and I can say from personal experience that that car would go 120 so I haven't always been slow but at some point about 50 I did wise up.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

I applaud your MPG. When you get rearended please factor in the cost of the acciden amoritorized over the next few years and re-calculate your milage.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

I'm sure that the FedEx driver is comforted by the fact his trip to ICU wasn't his fault.

No one cares who's at fault. Everyone just wants and accident free trip to work.

I put the previous sentence in just incase you didn't get the drift from the first one.

gccs14r 4 years, 10 months ago

Check your indicated speed against a GPS unit. I think you'll find that you're going about 60. My Camry is only going 65 at an indicated 70 (with stock tire size), so to go the limit, I have to accelerate to an indicated 75. Oh, and if you insist on driving that slowly, you should turn on your hazard flashers as a warning so you don't end up with a hood ornament enema.

compmd 4 years, 10 months ago

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dinoman 4 years, 10 months ago

I HAVE DRIVEN EVERYTHING FROM A 66 FORD TO A 08 TOYOTA.....REALITY CHECK SOMBODY CROSSED THE MEDIAN AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED... SOMBODY IS DEAD AND SOMBODY MAY BE PERMANTLY DISABLED... LIFES HAVE CHANGED... THIS HAS TO STOP... HYBRED OR NOT TEXTING OR NOT GAS MILAGE BE XXXXXXX......THIS IS A LIFE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.... THE STATE NEEDES TO ACT NOW... NOT NEXT TIME... ISNT THERE SOME FED FUNDING THAT COULD BE USED TO EMPLOY SOMBODY TO BUILD INSTALL GUARDS.

SoundMind 4 years, 10 months ago

People who drive that far under the speed limit are just as much of a traffic hazard as those who drive 15 mph over.

Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.

monkeyspunk 4 years, 10 months ago

Federal Highway Safety research disagrees with your "statistic".

Slow speed can cause accidents, but the faster drivers tend to go above the median ( not the speed limit ) the more likely they are to have an accident. Also, the faster the speed, the more likely a fatality will occur.

Also, a great many accidents occur because drivers are driving too fast for the conditions.

I drive above the speed limit, and I know that if I get into an accident it is most likely my fault. Cars going 10 to 20 MPH slower than me are easy to spot, and easily avoided because I am paying attention.

Velcrow 4 years, 10 months ago

Thus the chicken and the egg question. Do old people drive slow or is it that slow drivers are the only ones that live to an old age?

upsman 4 years, 10 months ago

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Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

50 MPG and hundreds of pounds of batteries that are toxic to dispose of when your car dies. Who pays for new batteries when the current lot crap out? I got 55 MPG in a VW Jetta TDI rental driving 75-80 and it was way more fun than a silly Prius. I drove a prius last week and it wouldn't get out of it's own way.

kernal 4 years, 10 months ago

I miss the GTO that got me across KS at 100mph one night on my way West. Ah, the good ol' days. Ten years later, I came upon a wreck where someone got decapitated; turned out to be someone I knew. Have been going the speed limit on interstates every since.

Jeff Dean 4 years, 10 months ago

Go with the flow. Be neither agressive (fast) nor passive agressive (slow).

phogdowg 4 years, 10 months ago

I saw this happen live, myself and the escort heading east bound to KC. The escort was about one-tenth of a milein front of me. I saw the escort go into the medium, then cross over to the west bound, it was like slow motion. A couple cars swerved to miss hitting the escort head on, the fedex truck couldnt. They hit head on, the fedex rolled on its side and slid down the road off the edge. The escort flew into the air, but landed on all four tires and spun back towards the medium. The person in the escort was killed on impact, I couldnt see the fedex driver.

It was the craziest thing I have ever seen in person and my prayers go out to the families of the people involved.

God Bless

thelonious 4 years, 10 months ago

What a horrific thing to witness - are you doing OK?

Angela Heili 4 years, 10 months ago

I'm so sorry you had to see something like that Phogdowg. I hope you are doing ok.

Deja Coffin 4 years, 10 months ago

My friend's mom and sister were almost part of this wreck also. Glad that all of you are safe but my prayers go out to the girl's family and I pray the other driver and anyone else who may have been involved have a full and quick recovery. I also will pray for peace of mind for those who had to witness such a horrific accident.

BruceWayne 4 years, 10 months ago

west bound K 10 is now open. drive safe.

JayViking 4 years, 10 months ago

Gut wrenching. My thoughts go out to the families...

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 10 months ago

“Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?” --Geroge Carlin

blindrabbit 4 years, 10 months ago

none2: California uses oleander bushes as a divider on many roads out there. They are pretty strong but probably would not stop a high speed hit. They are low maintenance, attractive (flowers) and drought tolerant, but not winter hardy. The sap of the things are poisonous but I doubt if that plays into the consideration of using them as a barrier.

Celeste Plitz 4 years, 10 months ago

All parts of the Oleander are highly poisonous. It doesn't take much to kill a child or animal who is unlucky enough to ingest any part of it. I removed all of the Oleanders in our yard after we moved into our house because of that. You are right about them being used as road dividers in California-they grow very well there and can get very big. An interesting fact: Some campers have been known to die from using the dead sticks from Oleanders to cook hotdogs and have died from it. I had a neighbor who was letting her little 3 year old girl pick Oleander flowers in their yard and I asked her if she knew her daughter could die from putting them in her mouth. She had no idea. I really, really hate Oleanders as landscaping plants.

roggy 4 years, 10 months ago

I drove on K-10 yesterday and there were 3 or 4 troopers clocking traffic. It might have slowed the traffic for 1 day but I'm sure everyone was back up to speed today. From the sounds of this accident, speed had nothing to do with it. So very sad! I hope the FedEx driver will be ok.

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Amy Heeter 4 years, 10 months ago

Know what your comment is out of line so I'm going to flag it.

BruceWayne 4 years, 10 months ago

I apologize from the bootom of my heart to the loved ones of this young lady. My knee jerk reaction was out of line. I am sick and tired of Alex and his "look at me, it's all about me" comments.

igby 4 years, 10 months ago

Heavy traffic and the Sun in your face. Someone could have bumped her and sent her across the median. It's very possible. 23 year old don't just have heart attacks. Someone could have clipped her bumper, this causes the car to fish tail off the road.

cbr600kitty 4 years, 10 months ago

I am so glad to hear the driver is now listed as stable.

I pulled up on the accident probably 30 seconds after it happened and was one of the first people out of my car to check on the Fedex driver. He was concious but in bad shape. I was holding his left hand, and two other people and me were taking turns asking him questions to keep him alert until MedAct arrived.

Prayers go out to everyone involved and their families.

verity 4 years, 10 months ago

Thank you for being a Good Samaritan and to the other two people. He may not remember it, but you may have saved his life.

exiledinohio 4 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for caring. We all need to remember we are integral parts of our communities.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

That doesn't make any sense. So you get upset at the guy who's going 75 and passes you rather than the guy who's going 65 who's slowing you down and making you pass him? Duh?

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

What part of this is in your own control? Deal with that part.... The extra 5 mph isn't gonna kill your mileage and you might not be so grumpy behind the wheel.

YouPeopleAreCrazy 4 years, 10 months ago

So the people who are driving slower don't have to look out for others?

independant1 4 years, 10 months ago

'Twas much worse when K10 was 2 lane hiway, the old road through Eudora and Desoto. It seemed like everybody had a relative or friend killed or.... on the old road. K10 project saved alot of lives and property. Finished in 80s as I recall.

evilpenguin 4 years, 10 months ago

Anyone else see the irony in the video where the advertisement before it plays is for crown automotive? Apparently they sell used cars there and can repair your damaged vehicle....what an excellent way to be totally insensitive....

kernal 4 years, 10 months ago

I don't think Crown chooses the stories where their ads run. Think that's something Jonathan or Whitney can clarifiy for us.

wmathews 4 years, 10 months ago

That ad was removed from the video. Thanks for pointing it out.

Whitney Mathews Online Editor

Go_Figure 4 years, 10 months ago

Did it ever occur to some of you idiots that Amanda might have had a medical condition? Maybe she had a seizure.....was not texting, not messing with the radio. How horrible of you to judge and criticize when you have no idea what really happened. Don't you think her friends and loved ones, l ike me, might be reading some of your cruel remarks? This could've been your friend, your mother, your sister, your wife. Would you like people making rude assumptions like some of you have? It was what it was.....a horrible accident. She has a greiving mother, 2 brothers, aunts, uncles and grandparents. Be nice, or just stay away!

rcr 4 years, 10 months ago

I'm so sorry for your loss. Having been through this same situation before I know the pain and confusion you, and the family and friends are feeling. Just ignore all the idiots here and try to get by one day at a time. Lean on each other for comfort, for it is the family and friends who will help each other get through this tough time.

TopJayhawk 4 years, 10 months ago

What?
Fact; 23 yr olds do not have heart attacks. Having driven many times on "killer 10" I would bet a paycheck she was texting or putting on makeup. I bet I bet I bet. Let's wait and see.

engagedecoy 4 years, 10 months ago

Making assumptions about a person you do not know is morally wrong. Instead of throwing your crazy ideas out there how about you show some respect and not assume you know everything in the world......okay?

CreatureComforts 4 years, 10 months ago

Fact: I guarantee you there has been a 23-year old with a heart attack once in the history of the world. Probably many, many more times, but to say it is FACT that they don't says a lot about you.

What about the high school athletes who randomly die on the field during football practice? Many of them are a lot younger than 23, and just never found out they have an underlying heart condition until it's too late.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's pretty outrageous for you to say it's a FACT that 23 year olds don't have heart attacks.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

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Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

Sorry folks speed doesn't kill. In Germany they drive at much higher rates of speed than us yet they have a lower death rate per miles travelled by a good margin. They have also done studies on speeding and differences in speed in traffic. Speed differentials serve to disperse traffic while similar speeds tends to bunch up traffic. This tends make traffic move slower and is more dangerous due to the grouping of cars. For some reason American Ding Dongs can't figure out how to pay attention and just drive. There's a reason German cars don't have 16 cup holders in them.

Shardwurm 4 years, 10 months ago

When was the last time you drove in Germany vertigo? I was there for a month last year and lived there for 3 years in the 80s. What you say is partially true, but there are great stretches of 2-lane road with no posted speed limit. I personally drove 100 mph on a road not much different than 59.

Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

Been there 5 times and drove well over 200 kmh for long stints on 4 of my trips. Sure you drive slower in urban areas but it's go as fast as you want outside those areas on the perfect Autobahn. I do speak from experience and from reading hard published facts on death rates.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 10 months ago

In Germany it is a serious driving offense to pass on the right. It is also an offense to not pull over to the right as soon as possilbe to allow other cars to pass you.

I am quite sure that is a good part of the reason that accident rates are lower there than they are here.

That is becoming the law here also, but is not enforced at all today. Perhaps in the future it will be, and hopefully then our accident rates will decrease.

Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

Americans are a selfish bunch and would rather risk life and limb rather than allow someone to pass them. No one gives way here like they do in Germany. If people would follow the rules and show some respect we'd all get there faster and safer. Germans cooperate on the road and we work against one another.

engagedecoy 4 years, 10 months ago

I am tired of reading comments about "i bet she was texting" or "changing the radio station." Did you personally know this person? I think not. Do you know their medical history? I think not. SHOW SOME RESPECT Kansas.

Jillster 4 years, 10 months ago

If a person has something in their medical history that might cause them to have a seizure, black out, or otherwise become unable to control a vehicle, they should not be driving.

kernal 4 years, 10 months ago

It's my understanding that if a person has the medical conditions you're referring to, most states will not give them a driver's license.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information people who have medical conditions like seizures and such can be given license with requirements such as taking their medication which may help with them but can not prevent them from happening completely. You guys have no idea about her so all of you should stop making assumptions. She was a good friend and to read this stuff is stupid you guys wanna think that she is a terrible person an inattentive driver you are wrong. She lost her life not because she was texting not because she was speeding not because she was changing the station on the radio not because she was putting on make-up but because she had a seizure. You guys should feel horrible!

BigPrune 4 years, 10 months ago

I don't think showing the portion of the video showing the deceased person's car is respectful to this woman's family.

kernal 4 years, 10 months ago

On the other hand, it may give some drivers a needed heads up not to talk on a cell phone, text, eat, put on make-up, etc., while driving. Believe me, I have seen all of these situations by other drivers on I-70 in KS. Keeping control of a car at 70 mph, or higher, requires the full attention of a driver. You never know if you're going to run over a sharp object that will cause a blow out, if someone willl bump your car or if you will have a mechanical problem affecting the control of your car.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information you guys have no idea about her so all of you should stop making assumptions. She was a good friend and to read this stuff is stupid you guys wanna think that she is a terrible person an inattentive driver you are wrong. She lost her life not because she was texting not because she was speeding not because she was changing the station on the radio not because she was putting on make-up but because she had a seizure. You guys should feel horrible!

ksplowgirl 4 years, 10 months ago

To all those cruel people who don't think before they post. Shame on you! You don't have all the information yet you are quick to judge and cast doubts on this young Christian girl. I pray to God that you never have to suffer this type of anguish when you lose a child. Not only do her parents, family and friends have to go through the trauma of losing a sweet child like this but now they have to see these trashy hateful comments from people who are sostupid as to speak before knowing the facts. I hope each of you who made these awful comments realize that words can hurt just as much a stones and when you do things like you have done you are the worst kind of person. To pick on a greiving family is probably a greater sin than anything except murder

wdl 4 years, 10 months ago

A terrible loss of life to be sure. This incident like so many that occur is completely avoidable. Rather than fret about the horror of it all why don't we as dirivers empower ourselves to do something about it. It is up to each of us to protect our fellow drivers and ourselves so we don't continue to litter the highway with the contents of our bodies.

Keep your mode of transportation well maintained. How many of you even check your tire pressure and condition. And this list goes on.

No drugs / drinking and driving. No cell phone use which certainly includes texting. Keep your pets confined if they must ride with you.

Observe the speed limit. Beyond that, do not drive faster than the conditions allow rain, snow, time of day, etc. Stop following to close.

We have all heard these things before and the majority believe it will happen to some one else. That thinking must change. In an instant it is your turn! Good luck I am watching out for you and me.

Hoots 4 years, 10 months ago

Had an ex-girlfriend who's Dad crashed two cars due to dropping a cig in his lap. Also went to school with a guy that rear ended two cars because he became fixated on cute girls running.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information my friend Amanda wasn't texting and driving or anything else she had epilepsy and had a seizure while driving. I would appreciate next time you think before you type what if this was your loved one or your friend and people were talking about them like this when they didnt even know what happened.

kansanbygrace 4 years, 10 months ago

I notice the KHP sitting on the side of the road now and then..K-10 that is. They do nothing about the hundreds of cars following far to closely, traffic slower than 40 or faster than 70. Once in a while they stop someone with out-of-date registration. Not sure that makes us any safer. If the laws were enforced, or the laws were changed and then enforced, there'd be more respect than the current state of things.

John Hampton 4 years, 10 months ago

One lane would make that a very dangerous road indeed.

exiledinohio 4 years, 10 months ago

My sympathy to the victim and to the injured FedEx driver. I lost my brother in a traffic accident some years ago. I am sorry for the insensitive comments by some bloggers. My prayers for the families.

jayhawk87 4 years, 10 months ago

My sincerest condolences to everyone involved and their families and friends. It's terrible that so many people who were nowhere near this accident are focusing on where to place blame instead of the fact that a 23-year-old girl lost her life. Whether it was her due to her error, a medical condition, whatever, this girl was somebody's daughter, relative, friend, neighbor, and they probably never would have imagined that the last time they saw her would be the last time ever. They never got to say goodbye, and I can't imagine how much they must be hurting. Let them mourn without your accusations.

brianna123 4 years, 10 months ago

The man that drove that fed ex truck, i knew him. I just met him and his son two weeks prior to this accident. His son is good friends with my boyfriend and they had come down to visit my boyfriend and i for the day in springfield, mo. He has been driving for fed ex for like 20 years and i guess he hardly drove those trucks, mainly drove a van. I thank god that he drove a truck that day because he wouldn't be alive. Pray for his family, as far as i know he is doing real well and is still coming back down here to springfield to visit us in about a week. He's one tough cookie.

exiledinohio 4 years, 10 months ago

My prayers are offered for him and his family. My daughter was one of the first on the scene after the accident. She made an effort to comfort him until MedAct arrived. My sincere sympathy to all who were impacted by this crash.

Meredith Richey 4 years, 10 months ago

I was late for work on Thursday and was supposed to be in the exact spot of the accident where it happened. As it happened I drove by about 15 min. after the accident. I am so sorry for the family of the young woman who died in this horrific accident. She was the same age as our daughter. Too young to leave yet. Also, I feel for the driver of the Fedex truck and his family. Life is so unexpected. This blog has been sad but interesting to read. I think we all need to focus on being careful when we drive and hugging our loved ones a bit more. None of us know when this could happen to us.

phogdowg 4 years, 10 months ago

I can almost guaruntee you that she was not texting or doing make-up or talking on phone. I saw it live, and the only way this accident could of happened was from falling asleep or being unconscious. At that point on K-10, the road has a slight curve to the right (eastbound), her car stayed on a straight line, gradually crossing the median and gradually crossing one lane into the second lane (westbound). I watched her car stay on a straight line for atleast 5 seconds before impact.

If she was texting, smoking, doing makeup, talking on phone, etc....she would of swerved or jerked her steering wheel one direction. She would of heard her tires go over 2 sets of the road that makes that loud noise (forgot what they are called).

I drove to Texas this weekend through Oklahoma, as I have hundreds of times in the past and I noticed Oklahoma has adopted the fence technique for its medians, the ones with the metal post and wire, just like I-70 in Missouri. The whole time i was driving, I thought about this accident and how an investment in this safety measure would have prevented this accident from happening.

I think it is time for pressure to be put on KDOT or whoever it is to make these highways safer.

pal00kaville 4 years, 10 months ago

I couldn't imagine myself quite how this happened until yesterday. I was driving on 24/40 at about 65. I was in the passing lane and overtaking a slower driver who began to merge into me. When I realized what was happening (his fender almost into mine) I was forced into the median. Try doing that at 65 and then consider how much control you have. He claimed he didn't see me, and that I was in his 'blind spot' (the passing lane!). I almost went into the oncoming lane (about a 25 foot median) but managed to slow and steer to the center without rolling. We shook hands afterward, and I left it to him to analyze what he had done. Its called a neck, and you must use it, mirrors are not enough! Had there been a median barrier we would have tied-up for sure.

pal00kaville 4 years, 10 months ago

Good point, but no, there wasn't any other reason apart from driver error. It was open highway but cars were in front of him. He may have been trying to pass them. I had the lane and we were nose and nose when he began moving into me. He should have seen me (even out of the corner of his eye even) but he didn't really look before changing lanes.
I guess my main points were: 1) The deceased driver in this case may have actually been responding to a situation when she left the road 2) That medians are not putting greens, and all bets are off when entering one at that speed as to just how you are going to end up 3) As much as distracted driving is in the news, pure inattentiveness is just as bad, and perhaps more prevalent 4) That in a devil's choice situation a median guard could actually force an accident It was the lesser of two evils, but it showed me just how little control I had once I left the road.

justforyourinfo 4 years, 10 months ago

For your information you guys have no idea about her so all of you should stop making assumptions. She was a good friend and to read this stuff is stupid you guys wanna think that she is a terrible person an inattentive driver you are wrong. She lost her life not because she was texting not because she was speeding not because she was changing the station on the radio not because she was putting on make-up but because she had a seizure. You guys should feel horrible!

Jillster 4 years, 10 months ago

Did she have a history of seizures? If she did, why was she driving?

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