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Letters to the Editor

Nuclear issues

August 5, 2010

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To the editor:

Joe Douglas’ letter of Aug. 2 (“Nuclear madness”) lumps the World War II nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the subsequent proliferation of nuclear weapons. It seems that as time moves farther from the two bombings, many wish to depict them as a misdeed by our nation, as evidenced by the planned vigil to commemorate those who died. While use of these weapons was horrific, they were used against a determined foe that did not fight the same kind of war as any of its other combatants.

In April 1945, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff estimated at least 456,000 Allied casualties for an invasion of the Japanese home island of Kyushu. Other invasion casualty estimates ranged from 30,000 to 1,000,000 (source: ww2db.com). Operation Downfall, the overall Allied plan for invading Japan, noted that “operations in this area will be opposed not only by the available organized military forces of the Empire, but also by a fanatically hostile population.” While revisionist historians have tried to discredit the use of atomic weapons on Japan, invasion would have carried a very steep price.

My father served in the U.S. Army’s 25th Infantry Division in the Pacific in WWII. I am grateful for how President Truman chose to end the war. I understand the Coalition’s protest, but their choice of Aug. 6 confuses two issues: the current proliferation of nuclear weapons, and their use in WWII. That use brought an end to the war and saved countless American lives.

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pooter 3 years, 8 months ago

When Bush mispronounced nuclear was he talking to a Corpsman?

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blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

Snap: Was never disappeared until yesterday. I was a little rough on Herr Kobach!

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 8 months ago

Hey, bunny, how many disappeareded comments are you shooting for today?

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blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

Enjoyed your reply, but the facts don't stand a closer look; especially when looking at the Killian (his last commanding officer) documents. I've looked over his military service history; what a confusing mess, complicated by preferential treatment throughout his obligation. I still stand by my statements about pay, and AWOl status.

As far as mispronouncing nuclear, many people do this; but no excuse for the guy holding the triggers for armageddon.

Just guessing at your political persuasion; you believe all this Bush crap, but probably refute Obama's birth place. Take a look at the Honolulu newspapers from that period, should shine some light on the issue.

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job4mike6 3 years, 8 months ago

blindrabbit: I've served as well. Thank you for serving our country in uniform. Bush is not my guy. His academic record was misrepresented as uneducated and I find that to be untrue. I believe that we agree that he did not complete his stint in the Air National Guard as a pilot and that the documentation of his service is incomplete, confusing, and doesn't clearly show he was where he claimed he was. He was honorably discharged. He did complete flying training and F-102 interceptor training. I haven't found anything that said he collected flight pay when he didn't fly. I think that he did not keep his flying qualification as an F-102 interceptor pilot and he should have or gained proper permission to stand down from flight duty. If he were found AWOL that would have required his commander to make the legal case to higher headquarters. I don't think that happened because the Air Force had too many pilots at the end of Vietnam and was eliminating people from service, including pilots in aircraft (such as the F-102) about to be retired. He performed non-flying duties at the end of his Air National Guard stint and was transferred to inactive reserve. Records from that era are not clear--either way-- about his service and absences. I don't agree that Bush was party to a conspiracy to embarrass CBS or Dan Rather. They did that to themselves! Bush's mispronunciation of many words is a matter of record. However, I saw many people in my military career who had verbal problems but were valuable members of our unit. I have also seen many smooth talkers who weren't worth much.

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blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

Also, how can Dubya be a pilot of a aircraft that has the potential of dropping nuclear weapons and yet cannot pronounce the word correctly.

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blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

Job: Your guy has a history of cutting things short, education aside. His supposed military service is another issue. Being a veteran myself I feel I can speak to this:, Dubya frauded the military in accepting military service and flight pay while he avoided attending required events (AWOL in my jargon). Regardless how he and his cronies rigged the story and contributed to CBS and Dan Rather falling on their swords, he skipped.

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job4mike6 3 years, 8 months ago

blindrabbit: I'll give you a break to point out that legacy admissions are one thing (and very common at that time) and completing the requirements for graduation are another all together.

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blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

job4mike6: Flawed education at Yale. With granddaddy (Prescott) and daddy (#41) as past grads and pumping money into the school like crazy, how could he not make it. Also his cheerleading squad membership endeared him to the administration.

Give me a break!!

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puddleglum 3 years, 8 months ago

that's because he was an un-educated fool

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blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

Remember Dubya refered to this material as Nucular not Nuclear; he never understood the difference.

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Boston_Corbett 3 years, 8 months ago

Cue Bozo and his revisionist history rants......4......3......2.....1.....

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JJE007 3 years, 8 months ago

Wealth and privilege bestow upon all "THE apple of God's eye" trophy. Most fight for this or their daily bread as it has been born of the gold of "peaceful" life. It is golden, the way of the world and the gift of privilege. It is the best of tines and the worst of times come haunting strength in diversity. It is made up...of goals, those of domination. It is a destruction born of ignorance in privilege. It carries the weight of the world upon its lame shoulders and soldiers...and this golden CALF of our LEGacy will not be denied. It is our future, planting the seeds of our demise. It cannot walk but strolls on still, towards the stillness of hardy fool inheritance. This is our prophecy and, indubitably to be obliterated, legacy...as most of the power of our human world continues to fail to care mightily from within a comfort borne of grace and ignorance. Hmmm... Could it be that we are the chosen ones or is this little piggy way of our world simply a reminder that we are long pork?~) Our dinner is your dinner. We are the forced meat of worms and must insist upon enjoying our play of glory. We are the meat of worms, insisting upon the glory of our trophy or our caring for the poor (the less fortunate) without a shred of a god's tough grace, without a shred of respect for death as it is kept so far away, as far away from our bellies (and Anatevka) as is inhumanely possible...by those who have turned us into domesticated beasts. We are the meat of worms. We are the long pork of dense forests...thickets of ignorance and bliss. We are drunk from the passion, the fruit of the kris kringle almighty and that cheap schist from our graft charting, money printing plates of china, cracking under the kraken moon of tables ignored. We are all, in deed, the almighty stooges of eye-popping foolishness. Well... I am. How about you?~) OK... Whatever... JUST beware the pitchfork and that upright stance, you. We demand it. We demand it. We demand it, demon!~) Go in peace to love and serve the main course.

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Kontum1972 3 years, 8 months ago

Jesse C. were u an aviator? u keep showing that UH-60.

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 8 months ago

The linkbot has woken. Fear his mad copy/paste skillz!

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 8 months ago

US Denies Its Use Of Depleted Uranium (DU) Weapons In Iraq Pose Any Health Hazard

Major Doug Rokke, Army Reserve Major and Health Physicist in charge of DU cleanup after the Gulf War exposes the lies and talks about the British medical society blowing the whistle, while the Pentagon claims no problem

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3551.htm

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 8 months ago

Depleted Uranium - Far Worse Than 9/11 Depleted Uranium Dust - Public Health Disaster For The People Of Iraq and Afghanistan

by Doug Westerman http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2374 http://baltimorechronicle.com/2009/102009Lindorff.shtml ======================================================================= The War Against Ourselves http://www.rense.com/general72/ddu.htm

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 8 months ago

Dead Babies in Iraq and Afghanistan are No Joke

Depleted Uranium Weapons

By DAVE LINDORFF

Depleted uranium, despite it’s rather benign sounding name, is not depleted of radioactivity or toxicity. The term depleted refers to its being depleted of the U-235 isotope needed for fission reactions in nuclear reactors. The nuclear waster material from nuclear power plants, DU as it is known, is essentially composed of the uranium isotope U-238 as well as U-236 (a product of nuclear reactor fission, not found in nature), as well as other trace radioactive elements. It turns out to be an ideal metal for a number of weapons uses, and has been capitalized on by the Pentagon. 1.7 times heavier than lead, and much harder than steel, and with the added property of burning at a super-hot temperature, DU has proven to be an ideal penetrator for warheads that need to pierce thick armor or dense concrete bunkers made of reinforced concrete and steel. Accordingly it has found its way into 30 mm machine gun ammunition, especially that used by the A-10 Warthog ground-attack fighter planes used extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan (as well as Kosovo). It is also the warhead of choice for Abrams tanks and is also reportedly used in GBU-28 and the later GBU-37 bunker buster bombs. DU is also used as ballast in cruise missiles, and thus burns up when they detonate their conventional explosives. Some cruise missiles are also designed to hit hardened targets and reportedly feature DU warheads, as does the AGM-130 air-to-ground missile, which carries a one-ton penetrating warhead.

While the Pentagon has continued to claim, against all scientific evidence, there is no hazard posed by depleted uranium, US troops in Iraq have reportedly been instructed to avoid any sites where these weapons have been used—destroyed Iraqi tanks, exploded bunkers, etc. Suspiciously, international health officials have been prevented from doing medical studies of DU sites. A series of articles several years ago by the Christian Science Monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0515/p01s02-woiq.html) described how reporters from that newspaper had visited such sites with Geiger-counters and had found them to be extremely “hot” with radioactivity. Even the smallest particle of uranium is both deadly poisonous as a chemical, and can cause cancer.

There are reports of a dramatic increase in the incidence of deformed babies being born in the city of Fallujah, where DU weapons were in wide use during the November 2004 assault on that city by US Marines.

But the real impact of the first heavy use of depleted uranium weaponry in populous urban environments will come over the years, as the toxic legacy of this latest American war crime begins to show up in rising numbers of cancers, birth defects and other genetic disorders in Iraq and Afghanistan

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 8 months ago

Depleted uranium weapons are used frequently as we speak in the war for oil control. Throughout Iraq,Afghanistan and probably Pakistan there is toxic paradise. Killing and poisoning not only innocent native men,women and children but also our USA troops.

Think about this. Why?

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