Jews still face deadly threat

September 9, 2009


HBO showed the film “Schindler’s List” last week. The 1993 Steven Spielberg movie never ceases to arouse my deepest emotions. The perennial question put forth in the film remains: How could people wantonly kill so many others as a matter of state policy? This is more than history, however. There are those who would gladly “finish the job” the Nazis started. The Obama administration — like previous administrations — is pressuring Israel in ways that, if the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu succumbs, will effectively give Israel’s modern enemies the opportunity to destroy its people. Next time it is unlikely there will be an Oskar Schindler to save even a remnant.

There are other questions related to the pressure the Obama administration is applying to Israel to stop building “settlements,” which supposedly will persuade that nation’s sworn enemies to stop killing Jews. They are linked to the false premise that it’s only what Israel does, or doesn’t do, that affects the so-called “peace process.” If peace doesn’t happen, blame it on the Jews. It’s always their fault.

Those questions include: What could the Jews have done seven decades ago to dissuade Hitler from his “Final Solution”? What can modern Israelis do today to keep from being murdered by those who continue to hate Jews simply for being Jews? The answer to both questions is: nothing. Jews were murdered then and now, not for anything they did, but simply for being Jewish.

The notion that modern Israel, which was created out of the ashes of the Holocaust precisely because much of the world (the Arab world excepted) did not want another Holocaust, could have done something to prevent the killings has been the fundamental flaw in American foreign policy for decades.

The Latin phrase “quid pro quo” means “something for something.” Israel has given lots of quid, but has received little quo. The Obama administration is again pressing Israel to stop building homes on its historic territory. The political geniuses believe this will magically cause Israel’s enemies to either reciprocate with a peaceful act, or at least suspend the terrorism for a while in order to give the administration political cover for another sellout of the Jews. But as Middle East commentator Yoram Ettinger writes on his Web site (http://yoramettinger.newsnet.co.il/Front/NewsNet/reports.asp?reportId=272477), “Israeli policymakers and public opinion molders tend to accept U.S. administrations as top authorities on the Middle East.” Ettinger lists numerous instances — beginning with the founding of Israel in 1948 — that remind how they have been consistently wrong in their judgments.

George Mitchell, the administration’s Middle East envoy, is visiting Israel this week to continue “negotiations.” These are not real negotiations because only one side is expected to give anything and the other side is never held accountable for failing to live up to its promises.

Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian National Authority, has conditioned any new peace talks on the cessation of Israeli “settlements” in the “occupied Palestinian territories.” No one asks Abbas what he would give in return for putting Israeli construction on hold, other than more talks that would bring more empty promises. As Israel is pressured to stop building, Palestinian construction continues unabated. A new Palestinian housing project has begun in Ramallah. It is expected to provide 2,000 housing units, accommodating 10,000 people. Thousands of Arabs are moving into Jewish areas of Jerusalem, but don’t look for Mitchell to suggest they live elsewhere. Only Israel is not allowed to determine where its own people live.

Can anyone doubt the goal? It is to overwhelm the Jewish population and eventually eliminate all Jews from the land, not just land that is in dispute and which Israel holds onto because of its legitimate fear that Arab and Muslim nations, having started five wars, might go for number six if they believe they can win the next one. Only a fool would believe otherwise, given their repeatedly stated intentions and behavior.

In the Middle East and in Washington, there is a surplus of fools.


WHY 8 years, 8 months ago

Maybe the Jews should quit using missiles to kill civilians.
Oh I forgot no one is allowed to criticize the Jews because of something that happened 70 years ago.

jimmyjms 8 years, 8 months ago

My favorite part:

"There are those who would gladly “finish the job” the Nazis started. The Obama administration — "


cowboy 8 years, 8 months ago

On one level you have to tire from the energy this conflict has devoured over the past 50 years and all of the direct and indirect lives lost due to it. If the enablers from each side would agree to issue an ultimatum to the two players it could be solved. Just do it and lets move on.

jimmyjms 8 years, 8 months ago


"Report: Most Killed in Gaza War Were Civilians"

"Of the 1,387 Palestinians killed during the three-week offensive last winter in Gaza, most were civilians; 773 were noncombatants, including 252 children under 16, according to a new report by the B'Tselem group. The Israeli human rights organization says only 330 of the dead were combatants, and 248 were Hamas policemen killed at the start of the operation."


Pete Kennamore 8 years, 8 months ago

If the Arabs would put down their guns, the violence in the middle east would stop tomorrow.

If Israel put down their guns, Israel would be wiped off the face of the earth.


Christine Anderson 8 years, 8 months ago

Excuse me, but I don't think it's about " no one is allowed to criticize the Jews because of something that happened 70 years ago". I believe it's about the following. No other nation on the face of the earth would be expected to put up with their land being bombarded and citizens being slaughtered without defending themselves. No one. If the U.S. were subjected to the same, would we not defend ourselves? Uh whoops, I forgot; given the current administration, perhaps not. The deaths of civilians on both sides is a tragedy. The fact remains, however, Israel is trying to protect herself against extermination.

WHY 8 years, 8 months ago

If the U.S. were subjected to the same, would we not defend ourselves?

By bombing civilians?

What if my country was being destroyed, could I round up civilians and kill them? Maybe instead of bombing them I could use trains and a furnace. I guess the Jews forgot to learn an important lesson from the holocaust.

jimmyjms 8 years, 8 months ago

Elrond and cheesehead seem to have missed that post right above theirs...the one about the Israeli military killing nearly 300 children in Gaza.

I take it if those were your children, you'd "put down your guns," right?

Shane Garrett 8 years, 8 months ago

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beatrice 8 years, 8 months ago

It appears that LeaverDeaAsSlaef is a returning, many times removed, poster. LJWorld, time to dump him again.

jafs 8 years, 8 months ago

Since Israel was created by the US and Britain without any consideration of the many Palestinians who were living in the region at the time, is it surprising that there have been so many problems there over the years?

FYI, I am Jewish and not anti-Semitic.

jaywalker 8 years, 8 months ago

"Elrond and cheesehead seem to have missed that post right above theirs…the one about the Israeli military killing nearly 300 children in Gaza."

Yeah, you really broke a newsflash there, jimmy. It's a shame war kills civilians. But in this case, you'd like to blame the Israelis because Hamas chooses to hide amongst the civilians, fire missiles from heavily populated areas and then run away, returning only to snap photos and rail about the atrocities committed by the "treacherous Zionists!"

Dumb da dumb dumb dummmmmb

Bryan Moore 8 years, 8 months ago

Israel has F-18's, M1's and nuclear weapons. I don't think a group of people launching non-controlled flight rockets are going to "finish the job". It took them six day's to whip Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq combined and they have gotten much stronger since then. Would it cause us concern and/or anger if Mexico started building settlements on its "historic lands" in California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona? If they knocked down your house and said they were building a home for the Kickapoo or Potawatomi would you just say OK and move into a tent a few miles away without a fight? Stopping the settlements may not stop the hate or the killings and make the Palestinians love Jews but taking someone's home that their family has lived in for centuries kicking them to the curb and bulldozing it to build a apartment complex for your people is no way to make friends.

Shane Garrett 8 years, 8 months ago

Good one autie. Besides we all know the land size of Isreal. Compare that to the "palestine" lands and wonder why 2/3 of those lands are behind the Jordan boundriy. Why does Jordan not take in the palestinians? Or would that "de-legitimize" terriorist organizations such as Hammas.

TheYetiSpeaks 8 years, 8 months ago

jaywalker- So just to be clear on this...You are perfectly fine with killing children to extinguish your enemies. Nice.

KansasVoter 8 years, 8 months ago

The country of israel is a terrorist state, and the "settlements" that they keep building are violations of international law. If any other country in the world acted the way that israel does, America would have nuked 'em decades ago.

Jaylee 8 years, 8 months ago

TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

"The Jew and the 'blue-eyed devil' are surely no friend of Obama mentors, nor the Obama's for that matter. "

you wish our black president would be racist in hopes of legitimizing your more-than-slightly-off comments or something. you are the most obvious character on this whole forum, tom. and by that, i mean the most outwardly racist.

way to chip in, though.

Jaylee 8 years, 8 months ago

LeaverDeaAsSlaef (Anonymous) says…

Peace is for women and children.

wow...... that seriously is one of those most intriguing statements i have read in a long time. it would make me happy if that were true, but then women wouldn't be allowed to work or vote or think anymore, so i guess nevermind.... that would be awful haha

hmmm..... lots of ways of thinking of that one.

i wish peace for everyone.

ivalueamerica 8 years, 8 months ago

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says … jaywalker- So just to be clear on this…You are perfectly fine with killing children to extinguish your enemies. Nice.

I am not, nor am I in favor of the enemy hiding behind children.

TheYetiSpeaks 8 years, 8 months ago

"I am not, nor am I in favor of the enemy hiding behind children."

Gaza is one of the most densely populated places in the world. Your statement is akin to police hunting drive-by murdering gangsters in an inner city apartment building and instead of finding the culprits they just blew the whole building up (i.e. ridiculous). Families die but I hardly think the gangsters were "hiding behind children".
You are just giving the same, lazy excuse to murder that the Israelis did.

Jaylee 8 years, 8 months ago

TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

" It was called Black Liberation Theology, which preaches the white man is the oppressor who must be defeated….google it. "

i should hardly think a person trying to defeat an oppressor as large as a whole country would feel the need to gain political authority over said state rather than mount a political authority against it.

in any case, he isnt on the presidential podium preaching about the defeat of the white man. he is trying to work with and for all people of this country, even the tools who would say he is trying to kill them/defeat them/etc.

beatrice 8 years, 8 months ago

So Cal is not so subtly connecting Obama with Hitler. However, Hitler wasn't a socialist, and I believe it was last week that he was calling him one. Which is it Cal, is Obama a dictator like Hitler or is he a socialist? Make up your little mind already Cal.

Boeing 8 years, 8 months ago

I am Jewish, and I hate the Jews sometimes. I think they milk things...they act as though Israel has every right to do anything no matter what. The fact that they killed more Lebanese civilians than Hamas agents a few years back says all you need to know, indeed.

And yes, I had family who were caught up in the Holocaust, in a small little known French camp near the German border. I still get annoyed by Israel and the Jews sometimes.

ferrislives 8 years, 8 months ago

Tom aka Mr_Nancy_Boy_to_You: I've got to know. Where do you get the energy, and time for that matter? It's amazing.

Have you built a safe room? Is it stocked? If what you say is true, you're going to need it soon.

Note: I believe that safe rooms and being stocked up are a good idea, but mainly due to crazies who are going to lose it on everyone someday soon...honestly kinda like Tom aka Mr_Nancy_Boy_to_You.

Anyway, the Isreal/Palestine problems will not go away until one or both of them don't exist anymore. If Isreal backs off of the settlements, Hamas aka Palestine will still find a reason to bomb their buses. If Hamas/Palestine backs off, Isreal will continue to expand into others boundaries. Either way, they're screwed. But that area has been like that for centuries...why stop now. That would be sane!!!

Frederic Gutknecht IV 8 years, 8 months ago

Lord, help me.
Nobody has a right to any land on this planet. Nobody has any right to life. We are animals. It would be amusing if someone thought that the United States would fight for someone's ancestral lands. Yhat is absolutely laughable, unless it served the robber barons.

IF, on the other hand, Israel has become a supreme liability to the STATES, then it is all over. Pack your bags. THE US has already invaded. The bastards are at hand...to tie wrists...

Listen to the women and children screaming. Watch the spiders build their webs. It is the time for new planets and death.

We have cursed and curse our place. Run to the light. Leave your lands and graves behind. We are lost in this earth.

OOPS!~) You've let live the fly of blather again!~)

Tom McCune 8 years, 8 months ago

So whose land is it really? There have been dozens of occupants and claimants to Palestine throughout recorded history. The Jews don't even really have seniority in this squabble.


Cal is just one of those goofy fundamentalist Christians that feel some irresistible urge to ally with the Israelis for inscrutable religious reasons.

cowboy 8 years, 8 months ago

Look out Tom , the black people are coming , ooh the mexicans also , they want your wimen Tom. Watch out for people named Lenin !

Danimal 8 years, 8 months ago

I wish that the Hittites, Phoenicians or Sumerians (whoever has a decent claim) would show up again, displace all the concerned parties, and then we could put this whole episode behind us.

Daytrader23 8 years, 8 months ago

So whats the difference between Militarism and Terrorism? And why are the Jews always saying "Poor us, someone disagrees with our agenda, WE are the victims" PA-LEASE, The Jews own the Federal Reserve, the E.C.B, The BoE and the SNB. Four of the five largest central banks in the world. Banks that are more powerful than the elected leaders and the governments they represent. The FED is MORE powerful than the U.S government and its Jewish owned. This whole conflict is more than just opposing views of a book. This is about money, control and power. Hilter knew this and took action to make sure they would not control Germany's banks and economies. Yes this action was extreme and inhumane. But in the end the Jews won, they now control the ECB and thus not just the banking system of Germany but the whole of Europe. This is about them taking over the world....Pinky One bank at a time.

Daytrader23 8 years, 8 months ago

According to monetary policy theory, there should be no market crashes or panics. Thus all crashes are created by the FED themselves and a look back in history shows us that the actions of the FED did in fact create a bubble, then a crash. Now lets look at each crash sine the invention of central banks and history shows us that during these crashes non Jewish banks who were not aware of the impeding crash were ultimately bought out by jewish banks who seemed to have protected their capital days before the crash. Was this due to good economic forecasting? I think not. This is how the big fish eat up the little fish and it still works to this day. Just take a look at all the banks that were taken over then look at WHO took them over. Wake up people.

jaywalker 8 years, 8 months ago

"The civilians were in the way, its their own fault for not being on the rightfully stolen Jewish side of the ever expanding border."

"jaywalker- So just to be clear on this…You are perfectly fine with killing children to extinguish your enemies. Nice."

Beerguy and Yeti,

Wow. Constipation gotcha down, fellas? There wasn't the slightest reference to anything being the civilians fault in my comment, nor did I insinuate that killing children was perfectly fine. Don't know the beerguy, but Yeti you're usually better than that.

Ftr, I don't want any innocents to die. But as long as the militants are willing to blow up pizza parlors w/ suicide morons and lob thousands of missiles hoping to hit anybody it's the height of ignorance to expect Israel not to retaliate. I do believe Israel needs to recognize previous commitments and they are not without blame in this never-ending fiasco. But imo it's the cowards who prefer AND rely on the use of their brethren as 'human shields' who bear the majority of fault in such matters. Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah......have absolutely no regard for anyone's life---yours, mine, relatives, neighbors, their own---doesn't matter. As others have said, if Israels' neighbors put down their weapons peace would be attained. If Israel put down theirs, there'd be no more Israel. It's a snafu to be sure.

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