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Mangino’s contract outlines probe

Investigation is first step for potential ‘termination for cause’

Kansas University head football coach Mark Mangino speaks with media members in this file photo from Saturday, Aug. 18, 2007 following a morning practice at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas University head football coach Mark Mangino speaks with media members in this file photo from Saturday, Aug. 18, 2007 following a morning practice at Memorial Stadium.

November 21, 2009


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News this week that Kansas University administrators have launched an investigation into the actions of football coach Mark Mangino might have come as a bizarre development to some, but those familiar with the wording of the coach’s contract might not be surprised.

According to the contract — which is a public record but that was provided again to the Journal-World on Friday by a member of the university’s administration who requested anonymity — the school appears to have taken the first step in a potential “termination for cause” of the coach’s tenure in Lawrence.

“In the event (Mangino) is suspected of engaging in serious criminal conduct, fraud, misappropriation or embezzlement, or discreditable conduct,” the contract reads, “the (athletic director) shall conduct or direct that an informal investigation be conducted into the circumstances.”

On Tuesday morning, the Journal-World first reported that KU athletic director Lew Perkins had launched an internal probe into the actions of the eighth-year coach, sparked by an incident in which senior linebacker Arist Wright was allegedly poked in the chest by Mangino during a midseason practice or game.

Since then, several former players have come forward with additional allegations against the coach, some of which have included near-daily oral abuse, threats and the pressuring of players to play through injuries.

According to the contract, which was signed in 2006 but extended before the start of the 2008 season and runs through 2012, termination for cause can be brought about by “discreditable conduct that is inconsistent with the professional standards expected of a head coach of a collegiate sports team and that is seriously prejudicial to the best interest of the University or Athletics” — as determined by KU’s Chancellor in consultation with the athletics director — as well as by “public or private comments that disparage KU, its personnel, programs, policies and/or departments, or that cause damage to KU’s reputation.”

On his Thursday night radio show, Mangino rejected the allegations of some former players, calling their comments “flat-out embellished and just not true.”

He also reiterated his stance that he is comfortable with the manner in which he has run his program.

“I’m at peace with myself,” he said during the hourlong live broadcast. “I’ve got nothing to worry about because I know how we take care of our program and how we take care of our players.”

If the investigation — which is ongoing and has no known timetable for completion — were to find “clear and convincing evidence” to support a termination for cause, Mangino would have 21 calendar days to submit a written appeal to either Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little or Perkins. The appeal would then be considered by a three-member panel made up of university faculty or professional staff employees — one of whom would be selected by the Chancellor, one by the coach and a third who is mutually agreed upon — who would have the option to uphold the original findings.

In that case, Mangino would be entitled to none of the remaining compensation called for in his contract.

If the committee determines the termination should be voided, however, the university would be required either to reinstate Mangino as the team’s head coach or convert the termination to a termination without cause, in which case the university would be required to pay Mangino his annual salary for the remainder of the term agreement as well as a prorated portion of the $1.5 million retention bonus he would have received had he remained until Dec. 31, 2012. All told, that would be nearly $6.6 million.

Mangino, who is two victories shy of tying A.R. Kennedy’s school record of 52, is set to make $2 million per season over the next three years.

The coach, who was expected to be on the sidelines tonight against Texas, was unavailable for comment Friday, though Gray-Little released a statement supporting Perkins and the ongoing investigation.

“The review of the football program is consistent with the process outlined in Coach Mark Mangino’s contract,” Gray-Little said. “I encourage everyone to wait until this process is completed before drawing any conclusions.”


Jerry Collins 8 years, 6 months ago

Wish we had a "no crying" contract for ex-players. Also, if you get an unsportsmanlike penalty, you need your butt kicked all the way back to the locker room. It's really selfish to punish the rest of your team just because you want to act like a punk. There is always the unintentional case, but the particular action in question deserved the response it got from the coach.

Mike Cohen 8 years, 6 months ago

It seems obvious now that Perkins manufactured this controversy to oust Mangino. All he needed was a losing streak and the chance to give anyone with an ax to grind a chance to take a shot. This should have been handled without all this drama, and if anyone has acted in a way that has embarrassed KU, it's Lew Perkins. Everything that has been alleged on Mangino's past issues, such as the closed parking issue, the present accusations, the firestorm of criticism in the local and national media, were all results of leaks or press releases from his department. He's the one that set off this crises, and failed to keep it within the system where it belongs. What we're seeing is only a very public attempt by the AD Perkins to get rid of a football coach he did not hire, and never liked. Thanks Lew Perkins, for dragging the school's name through the mud, and setting the football program back to it's former laughingstock status. Way to go promoting the schools image there buddy. I bet you sell alot of those Gridiron Club seats now!

Iwanttosaythis 8 years, 6 months ago

FIRE HIM its time for new and much better coaching blood we need more then a orange bowl! (BCS CHAMPIONSHIP)

Iwanttosaythis 8 years, 6 months ago

I know send him to Haskle Indian Nation university they need and coach to push these boys into playing good fooball.

Jerry Collins 8 years, 6 months ago

Good luck Lew in getting a coach to come in that has to handle the players with kid gloves. Oh, lets not raise our voice in case some "sensitive" player is to be offended. I realize we have to change coaches now because your actions have taken away any chance of Mangino being able to coach effectively again. It's funny that just a couple years ago, people that know more about football than you named him the best coach in the nation. But I guess your ego didn't like that it was someone other than you that got the credit. Maybe, with some luck, the basketball team can lose 5-6 games in a row and you can undermine that Bill Self guy that yells at his players and asks them to work "so hard". So Lew, get the call out-We want you to come to KU and build a great football program, oh, but be sure you don't raise your voice.

Iwanttosaythis 8 years, 6 months ago

i know send him to hinu to whip those boys into playing football

Patti Hadl 8 years, 6 months ago

I totally agree Mihangel! And why did the chancellor issue a statement in support of Lou? She's acting as Lou's puppet. Our recruiting season is toast thanks to Big Lou. The fine institution of KU continues to follow the path of greed as its sole means of moving forward into the future.

kujayhawk 8 years, 6 months ago

Lew has worn out his welcome here in Lawrence.

Jerry Collins 8 years, 6 months ago

Lew, you've undermined Mangino's ability to continue. A couple of years ago, people that know a lot more about football than you, determined that out of all the coaches, he did the best job. Guess your ego didn't like someone else getting the credit. Maybe, with some luck, the basketball team can lose 5-6 games and you can use your "ultimate authority" to get rid of that Bill Self guy who yells at players and asks them to work hard. Those poor abused souls. So Lew, get the word out that we need a new coach to build a great football program here at KU. But, oh by the way, we don't want our players yelled at. Good luck. Coach Mangino, thanks for what you accomplished leading our football program to respectability and good luck with you're next job and don't worry about us, we still got Lew!

kessman 8 years, 6 months ago

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skinny 8 years, 6 months ago

It's football for christ sake. Man up!! Manfino is a great coach and I have a lot of respect for the man. If you boys can't handle the game go join the army then cry I got poked in the chest and see what happens!!

Mike Cohen 8 years, 6 months ago

It should be noted that the chancelor only stated that Perkens was following proper procedures as outlined in Mangino's contract. Her statement did not speak to the validity of the reasons for the investigation.
What has bothered me so much is how Lew Perkins has manipulated events to where Mangino's reputation that of The University of Kansas have been dragged through the mud. As a personell issue, this should have been handled with more discretion. Instead, the matter has been played out in the national and local media, with Mangino getting shafted and pre-judged by ill-informed public opinion.

Randall Barnes 8 years, 6 months ago


jayhawklawrence 8 years, 6 months ago

Mangino leaves with great accomplishments. National coach of the year. Turning around a dead program even though it was also Perkin's money making moves that made a huge difference.

So now we need a smarter and better coach. We also need to roll back the drive for dollars a little because it is over the top right now.

I would like to get back to a more sane balance between education and sports. I trust Perkins to make a good choice of a new coach. He has always done a superb job even when we didn't like the focus on making money.

Mangino will get time to shed 100 lbs., have a chance at a better quality of life, and then move into a better job opportunity on a winning foundation. Happier, calmer and smarter.

Perkins will probably head on down the river and become even richer than he is now.

Phil Minkin 8 years, 6 months ago

When Mangino said on the radio something like he can't be responsible for the poor job of raising kids that parents do, I don't think that will endear him to the parents of future recruits. As it is now, regardless of what the inquiry finds, opposing coaches will use all of this against KU. He's toast

Mike Cohen 8 years, 6 months ago

Foodboy, I listened to that show, and that is not what he said. Again it's something said that's being taken out of context.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 8 years, 6 months ago

"got poked you probably needed to be slapppped like a girl."

Maybe this explains why you don't get many second dates.

Mike Cohen 8 years, 6 months ago

Your right about one thing though, his rep is twist at least and I can't see what good it would do to stay. Lew did a good job getting him all but run out of town.

James McGuire 8 years, 6 months ago

It's amazing how everyone has already reached a conclusion when very little is known about what is actually going on or what sparked this little media frenzy.

roggy 8 years, 6 months ago

Let's blame Lew! It can't be that we possibly have a huge (in more ways than one) problem! I live in Lawrence and have heard some pretty terrible things for many years about MM. I hadn't heard anything about the way he treated players but it shouldn't surprise me. He's been to anger management before and it obviously didn't work. I am guilty, like everyone else, of being on the winning team bandwagon. I naively also hoped that he had changed and I think he probably was a happier person when things were going well. I'm not sure how some things about him were kept quiet (still have been) but honestly we probably should have gotten rid of him a long time ago. I don't wish him ill will but I have to agree with the articles that Jason Whitlock wrote.

Uhlrick_Hetfield_III 8 years, 6 months ago

Perkins is a jerk. Word is he's got one of his cronies from U Conn he wants in the job. The only thing Perkins cares about is money and this trumped up "investigation" is just an attempt to screw Mangino. Someone should investigate Perkins for the damage he's done to KU's reputation with his money grubbing mistreatment of the fans.

Mel Briscoe 8 years, 6 months ago

that sucks. lose a few games and you're out the door.

i think i was employed by KU athletics at one point... i've lost a job or two due to bogus reasons as well.

Mel Briscoe 8 years, 6 months ago

i agree, native. ^^^ this is going to leave a bad mark on KU athletics and they will have a hard time getting someone else in. i know i wouldn't want to work for a shady AD like that.

ralphralph 8 years, 6 months ago

The only remaining question is how much they will pay Mangino when he leaves. They are jostling for position on the issue, but he's gone.

Patti Hadl 8 years, 6 months ago

It won't surprise me when Big Lougi makes his forthcoming announcement about Mangino being ousted on trumped up accusations. He'll have a replacement already hired. And believe me, it will be at an outrageous salary and he the replacement is already a member of Louigi's mafia. Give a little cash from the athletic dept. gains back to the university that allowed him to earn it, and he thinks he bought friends. He's pocketing SO MUCH MORE. He's only proving the kind of greed that controls his world. JayhawkLawrence is the voice of reason today. Let Mangino go to a better coaching position, let Lou handle things Lou's way, and he'll be gone as well very soon. Having to seek more and more millions to flash in his pockets.

compmd 8 years, 6 months ago

“In the event (Mangino) is suspected of engaging in serious criminal conduct, fraud, misappropriation or embezzlement, or discreditable conduct,” the contract reads, “the (athletic director) shall conduct or direct that an informal investigation be conducted into the circumstances.”

Now, Mangino may have been pushy and a jerk, but I don't see that as being a valid reason for an investigation and character assassination.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 6 months ago

Ever wonder what those tires feel like when that bus is driving over you?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 8 years, 6 months ago

"Now, Mangino may have been pushy and a jerk, but I don't see that as being a valid reason for an investigation and character assassination."

I think they (as in Perkins) has already decided to fire him. The purpose of the investigation is merely to see if there is enough dirt to get out of paying off the rest of his contract.

Mandie Eutsler 8 years, 6 months ago

I'm angry about this whole mess. I'm not sure who to be angry with, players? coach? Lew? I just know we have a couple games left to play, and the seniors have to go out on this note. That is wrong. If the incident that sparked this investigation happened six weeks or so ago, take care of it then. Why have this drama? They should all apologize to the seniors who have turned this program around. This is not fair to them and we should be advocates for our players. Keep your heads up boys we still love you!!!

Mandie Eutsler 8 years, 6 months ago

btw, add insult to injury and advertise wildcat gear on the bottom of the page...

greenworld 8 years, 6 months ago

I heard Ku is in contact with Mike Leach from Tx Tech.

Graczyk 8 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, Leach is a class act. Fat little girlfriends?

Rusty Thomas 8 years, 6 months ago

To Coach Mangino:You deserve better. To the seniors: You deserve better. To Lew Perkins: You deserve nothing. How can an investigation be unbiased when the person doing the investigating works for you? Fair and unbiased? What ROT!

hujiko 8 years, 6 months ago

Lew Perkins will stop at nothing until he achieves his ultimate goal of renaming the city Lewrence.

greenworld 8 years, 6 months ago

Yeah once Mangino is gone, Perkins could be on his way out the door. Remember back when Al Bohl was AD and fired Terry Allen and then Roy Williams defended Terry Allen cuz it was a friend of his and said how could you just fire him and not give him a chance which them backfired and end up pissing a bunch of people off which in turn pushed Roy out of here. Yes he did have something In NC in mind but only after somebody pissed him off. Well we dont have to know what happened after that, AL Bohl was investigated from previous problems from the university he came from prior and then let go. Ku as a whole has so many issues and needs to not let certain ones (in the Athletic Department) decide who comes and who goes. Somebody needs to go in and clean out the whole athletic department and then start over or it wont matter who we bring in as a head coach things will never change.

quik 8 years, 6 months ago

All of this screw Lew talk is really disingenuous. You knew what you were getting. This entire situation was predictable a few years ago. KU fans want a sports program and university that is first rate all the way. When Lew arrived and immediately split up Allen for more money everyone went along. He told everyone that it had to be done if you want to be national championship caliber. Everyone went along. Mangino is a very good coach but has an image problem that will never allow KU football to recruit well enough to consistently perform like 2007. Part of what makes schools like USC, Florida and Oklahoma recruit like they do is the image of the coaches. A short, fat guy that f-bombs every other word will never make it to that level. I think this has been the plan all along. Mangino was paid very well in order to show the coaching community that KU would pay top dollar. At the same time, Mangino's buyout is very little. All you need is just enough reason to fire him. Easy enough for Lew.

CeeDub 8 years, 6 months ago

LarryNative - so many good points... It's disgusting when you hear players whine, and more so that their parents are involved. Mangino did turn the KU program around and gave it recognition on the national level with the basketball program. If KU is unfortunate enough to lose him because of his blustery ways, hopefully Coach Snyder will have an opening for him. When he was one of Snyder's coaches, he was a lot "taller" for his weight. I wish if his weight was due to a medical condition, that he would just disclose it, because I feel there would be a lot of empathy for him in the community.

somebodynew 8 years, 6 months ago

CeeDub - yes there would probably be some empathy in the community "if" there was an actual health problem. H*ll, I would feel sorry for him (I am not a skinny guy) if that were the case.

The only other supporters he is going to have is those fans who believe in "just win, baby". And to them it doesn't matter how it happens. I don't claim to have "inside information", but I do know a lot of people around town and it seems to me (some personal knowledge) that this is the way he treats most people, not just his football team. I was listening to radio today and (can't remember who) a retired profresional football player who is now a pundit, said If what is reported is true, he has never put up with that kind of behavior. Being yelled at and pushed and shoved, yes. BUT- there was always a purpose and it wasn't personal attacks bringing outside personal circumstances into it.

In addition, he also said there was always an attempt to build you back up after the yelling. I know I have had two positions in life (one a full career) where the training at times required you to be torn apart and "beat down", but you were also rewarded if you responded. I don't think that is what is happening with MM.

But, past that, While I think Lew is doing what he was hired to do, this is obvious that it is a "hatchet job" in order to save from paying MM his buyout. Does anyone else not take into account that ALWAYS the Athletic Department does not comment on internal problems?? Yet, for some reason, Lew made an announcement about this investigation??? It is not like it was leaked and reporters sniffed out the story, it was "given" to them, by a guy who normally says he can't comment on internal or personnel matter. Hhhhhhmmmmm!!

MM I hope you land on your feet when you leave here.

jayhawkfan1 8 years, 6 months ago

The entire article is pointless and incorrect. The contract was amended in June of 2008. Go to the webpage below, Page 7, 3/4 of the way down, "Termination Without Cause" = $300,000 for every full year of employment after January 1st 2008...currently less than $600,000, but increasing every day.

Try doing some of your own research before writing your next article. It's called journalism.

BlackVelvet 8 years, 6 months ago

wow?.....just like when someone's arrested for a suspected crime, many of you have already tried and convicted either Mangino or Lew Perkins-without the luxury of a trial or any presentation of facts.

Some of you folks are so damned predictable...........

JKBagby 8 years, 6 months ago

Football Tough. A buddy mine told me once he would rather go through Selection again at Bragg than Two a days at Florida state. Uh, I think Mangino is ok.

Jonathan Kealing 8 years, 6 months ago


We looked at all those documents extensively. The conclusion that was drawn, after consulting with various people, is that the terms you're citing apply only to the Retention Agreement.

So, as part of his employment agreement, he gets his full salary if he's terminated without cause, so $6 million (as spelled out in the employment agreement dated 2006 but since extended). And as part of his retention agreement, he gets the prorated portion of $1.5 million should he be terminated without cause (as spelled out in the document you're citing, which in Section 9 states that all the information in the retention agreement should be treated as an addition, not a replacement of, parts of the original agreement).

And that's where we came up with the numbers we cited. We researched, we consulted; there's a remote possibility that we're wrong, or the contract could be so nebulous that the whole issue will be litigated. But our best information suggests that what we've written is correct.

Jonathan Kealing Online editor

Bud Stagg 8 years, 6 months ago

Ok so the players should be able to take it but what about the parking attendent, the HS ref, and his poor wife that have been abused? How many others has this bully abused?

gphawk89 8 years, 6 months ago

"Since then, several former players have come forward with additional allegations against the coach"

Why did they all wait until now? Unless Lew somehow made it... um... advantageous... for them to do so. Hate to even consider that possibility but... money talks.

shotgun 8 years, 6 months ago

Adios Mangino! Maybe now KU will play a competitive non conference schedule. That's how you build a team. I can't believe how everyone is sticking up for this lame example of a coach! How can any athlete look at the guy and have any respect for him!

Darrell Lea 8 years, 6 months ago

There is a very fine line between being (1) a loud abrasive successful coach and (2) a loud abrasive jerk whose behavior and comments destroys morale and damages individuals. I haven't been behind the scenes, so I really don't know. However, it seems obvious that the players on the team no longer believes in their coach. To lose five games in a row (soon to be six) with this level of talent says a lot about the bosses, in my opinion.

How many people in this thread actually have met either Coach Mangino or Lew Perkins? There seems to be an awful lot of character assasination going on by people who probably have no real knowledge of the persons they are commenting on. Pretty typical for the discussion area of, though.

greenworld 8 years, 6 months ago

Here is a scenario- If we win tonight fire Lew if we dont fire Mangino. HA

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 8 years, 6 months ago

"Here is a scenario- If we win tonight fire Lew if we dont fire Mangino"

And if it's a tie, fire 'em both.

Mike Blur 8 years, 6 months ago

Funny how the KUAC and the Journal-World are brothers-in-arms in taking down the Big Blue Bear. Memories are short, I know, so let me refresh you all via this link:

Back in 2004, the KUAC and 6News/Journal-World were fighting it out in court over the disclosure of Perkins' contract details. When it became apparent that the courts were going to find in favor of the Journal-World, "someone" in the KUAC released the contested the KC Star!

It's 2009 now, and apparently, all bygones are bygone, or the J-W/KUSports is a de facto extension of Lew and the KUAC.

Steve Jacob 8 years, 6 months ago

If KU thinks they can fire him without paying him, they are crazy.

shepdog 8 years, 6 months ago

Was there a red flag when he attacked a high school official. Was there a red flag when he attacked the parking attendent. Surely there was a red flag with the You Tube tirade with like 40 some f-bombs. Then why now? Why this week? Didn't take a rocket scientist to see the pattern?

roggy 8 years, 6 months ago

shepdog, from good sources he was made to take anger management classes in the past - they obviously didn't work. Maybe Lew has a grand plan but I would have loved to see the athletic department try to keep quiet that players and parents were talking to the AD. I'm not sure which would have created more press. I don't think our players are wimps so I'm sure there will be more to come after the season is over. If I were a player I wouldn't say a word knowing that I had to go practice with the big fella.

LloydDobbler 8 years, 6 months ago

Lew wanted Mangino gone when he got here...the Orange Bowl sort of put a crimp in that plan. Look for the announcement to be made tomorrow or Monday and the UConn football coach to get a serious look.

mr_right_wing 8 years, 6 months ago

You can get away with quite a bit if you're a winning coach that takes your team to a bowl game. Then it's labeled "motivation", but if you're not creating results, it's labeled "abuse".

LawrenceKSHomeBoy 8 years, 6 months ago

The big donors want man-gina gone as much as Lew. There is so much that's going to come out in the investigation. KU needs a more reputable and respectable coach.

Secondly, why does everyone think he's such a great coach? His big 12 record is 23 and 40! That's getting close to 30%. Wow, great record!

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