Letters to the Editor

Fatal mindset

November 20, 2009


To the editor:

Major Hasan’s treachery, treason and killing of U.S. soldiers while screaming “Allahu Akbar!” — God is Great! — brings Ms. Haehl’s response (“Revisit reasons,” Nov. 17) that other religions have had their killers, too. She concludes “dangerous people, not Muslims, are the problem.”

What’s been obvious since 9/11 is that not merely dangerous people, but rather dangerous Muslims, are the problem. Ms. Haehl fails to see an enemy where one clearly exists.

These dangerous Muslims kill us, fueled by fervent belief that the non-Muslim world — precisely because it is non-Muslim — is the “House of War.” Our enemies are those Muslims who have learned, in thousands of madrassas and mosques across the world and even within the U.S., that their sacred duty is to destroy the Great Satan.

It’s unfair to blame Muslims who do not share such beliefs for the acts of those who embrace them. But to deny that these tenets are Islamic in origin defies history, reason and the stated beliefs of the perpetrators themselves.

To know an enemy’s motivations is to know him; to refuse to acknowledge those motivations is, in this case, to deny one even has an enemy. Fort Hood proved this mindset is fatal, and in it lies the seeds of our destruction.

Even the Obama administration has forsaken “Islamic terrorism” in favor of “man-caused disaster.” Thus, officially, there is no war let alone one waged against us by Muslim radicals. There are many Islamists, and there will be many more, who do not agree.


rtwngr 8 years, 5 months ago

Major Hasan is a terrorist. The current administration is strictly appeasing the left on this one. Good letter Mr. Babcock!

Brent Garner 8 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Babcock is correct! The problem is Islam!

mom_of_three 8 years, 5 months ago

But to focus on one religion as terrorists is to ignore the others who also want to do our country wrong, and then what happens when you miss those signals because you are focused on one group.

Richard Heckler 8 years, 5 months ago

Liberty One hit the nail on the head.

Perhaps we americans know not enough about what government officals are doing abroad in our name.

Thursday on Steve Kraske a reporter for the New Yorker who covers the mideast extensively suggested it is time for americans to become engaged. Engaged in what is actually going on around the world in our name. This man suggested that the US government seems to believe that the natural resources of other countries belongs to the USA. The reporter indicated it doesn't matter whether it is oil or titanium. The wealthiest nation in the world should purchase what we need not take.

On the whole we americans may well be the most ignorant of all other cultures regarding what our government is doing abroad. The reporter openly criticized the KC Star for its' lack of sufficient international news coverage noting it was far to the back of the paper with more advertising than news.

Most other cultures speak more than one language. Our Turkish born nephew speaks 5.

monkey_c 8 years, 5 months ago

Well said to both Babcock and Liberty.

Edjayhawk on the other hand feels this way - "I'm more worried about our own terrorists. They use the Bible like Muslims use the Koran to justify their actions."

Ok, brilliant, you go right on worrying about "our" terrorists, and their evil Bibles. You do know Hasan is not only a military officer but also an American Citizen right? So, doesn't that qualify him as one of ours? Of course unless you are drawing a religious dividing line. That would not be very PC, to say he's not one of "ours" because he's Muslim. For shame for shame.

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 5 months ago

There are millions of Muslims all over the world (more than any other religion). There are a handful of terrorists. Don't blame Islam.

geekin_topekan 8 years, 5 months ago

The most impressionable Americans seem to be strategically/completely ignorant as to how their everyday activities affect people around the globe.The gullible are able to accept the idea that their government has never, will never and is completely incapable of doing anything wrong * . Read China's report to the people about human rights violations in America to get an idea of what the world sees in America. Why should you care what China thinks?Go to your local wallyworld and see how deep Chins is ingrained in US economy. No, don't look at their crappy products dumbarse, look at the money flow that is involved. Consider who profits from it and how.

**From a book called "Why do people hate America"

geekin_topekan 8 years, 5 months ago

Ooops a daisy.

"...that their government has never, will never and is completely incapable of doing anything wrong " +++ Just that part.

Carry on. Nothing more to see here.

Paul R Getto 8 years, 5 months ago

It's all about Israel (our terrorists) and how we support the myth they 'deserve' a homeland they never really had, as least not as an organized government/unitary people. Once we quit propping up the Israelis, things might improve. Until then, it's my skygod can beat up your skygod in the middle eastern playground. Not much of this has to do with 'religion' as practiced by sincere followers. It's power, politics and revenge, some of it going back hundreds, if not thousands of years.

SettingTheRecordStraight 8 years, 5 months ago


You make some good points, but wouldn't you agree that America's support for Israel is based upon its status as one of very few Middle Eastern democracies? I believe it would be foolish for America's foreign policy to deny strong support to a stable nation situated in such a volatile region.

Bonkers823 8 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Babcock brings up several good points in his letter. The problem is political correctness has blinded us to who our real enemies are, and luckily there are some who are willing to shed light without a fear of persecution.
All political correctness has done is created an opening for our enemies to get in, a back door and shield. On another note, I would LOVE to know where Dresden gets his info from, "The democracy veneer is largely just to appease Americans, a PR ploy." ~ He seems to know more than a lot of people when it comes to this topic. But then again most conspiracy theorists do.

Again, well done Mr. Babcock!

remember_username 8 years, 5 months ago

This is much more a political issue than a religious one. Many of these terror groups as well as certain theocratic governments are using religion to further a political agenda. That political agenda has at it's core the desire to eliminate U.S. influence in the middle east. Motivating the suggestible masses by appealing to their religious beliefs is very common and very effective - just look at history. When fighting against this religious appeal by attacking the religion itself we strengthen our enemies propaganda. Every time we call our enemies "Islamic Terrorists" or "Muslim Extremists", we subtly include all Muslims in our remarks, and we re-enforce the propaganda that is preached by our enemies. The better tactic is to divide these terrorist from their base in whatever way we can. One way is to treat these terrorists as criminals rather than combatants, just like Timothy McVeigh. Another is to begin reducing our presence in the middle east and show more tolerance and respect for local customs while there. And we should stop referring to these terrorists as part of a particular faith out of respect for the millions of other believers.

jonas_opines 8 years, 5 months ago

Thing (Anonymous) says…

"Dresden sounds like he is trying to be Chairman Mao and Che at the same time. You must be Bozo's kid!"

If you knew anything about Mao, Thing, you'd realize that one of the major tactics adopted by Mao and his regime was the immediate denouncing of anybody who said anything inconvenient or against the party line with the label of enemy, unpatriotic, or a dangerous dissident.

In other words, the only one who sounds like Mao is you.

Congratulations, little Maoist.

jonas_opines 8 years, 5 months ago

For the letter, and the rest: Even if this letter is well-founded, accurate, and is just "saying what needs to be said," do you have some sort of actual, ya'know, solution to be implemented off of this idea. I mean, I know that you would Never just whine and moan while contributing nothing else but whining and moaning, but what actual actions are you suggesting we take, based off your enlightened viewpoint?

Richard Heckler 8 years, 5 months ago

Israel is not a democracy and is not necessarily stable. The leaders seem to be blood thirsty individuals who do a lot of killing and perform much destruction.

Do the leaders necessarily represent the will of the people? No.

Israel could be a dangerous nuclear power. The 6th largest is the world.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 8 years, 5 months ago

Oh no, yet another way that we're all going to die. I've already been killed - twice!

The LTE writer's kool aid must have been spiked with acid. I think some of the other posters here drank the same batch and are peaking in a really bad trip.

Robert_Babcock 8 years, 5 months ago

Liberty_One believes "This isn't about religion, it's about politics," and points out US involvements overseas to support the claim. In so doing, the writer illustrates a sincere, widely-held but flawed belief, that Islam is merely a religion.

The writer is correct that it is about politics (while erring in claiming it is not about religion) for Islam is not merely a religion but also a political doctrine, and a war doctrine as well. Failure to comprehend this is a failure to understand the nature of Islam; Islam is not like Methodism with a few theological differences. Modern-day Islamists didn't invent these political and war doctrines. They were not created because of Western actions in the 20th century: the political and war doctrines are based in the hadiths and the writings of the Prophet himself.

Whenever I read an argument such as Liberty_One has put forth, my first thought is: this person needs to learn more about Islam. One would think that, eight years after 9/11, the populace at large would be more familiar with Islamic teachings that motivate our enemies.

An excellent place for a brief introduction is the article "Islam 101" at http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html.

p>www.jihadwatch.com also has daily updates on the political fight against the West. It's a real eye-opener: this is information that you don't get in the mainstream media. Jihad Watch is run by Robert Spencer, who has taught seminars for many government entities. Of course, charges of Islamophobia are regularly leveled against Spencer by the Council on American-Islamic Relations and others. p>www.brusselsjournal.com covers events--Islamic and otherwise--unfolding in Europe and the British Isles. Here are things that, again, just don't make it into our mainstream media. I find that hardly any of my fellow citizens are aware of political appeasement toward Muslims that has become the policy of so many countries--and the EU itself.

For an insider's insight into life within Islam, a general history of the faith, it's teachings, and its practices in the modern world, might I suggest Cruel and Unusual Punishment, by Egyptian-born Nonie Darwish.

A book that contrasts the collapse of Western self-confidence in its own values with Islamic political and demographic determination is America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It, by Mark Steyn--who is both astute and very entertaining.

Both violent and political jihadists threaten us. But the greatest threats are (1) the ignorance of so many of my fellow citizens regarding the dangers posed by both terrorists and political jihadists, and (2) our adoption of European-style appeasement, under the guise of 'tolerance'--and the demise of Western civilization itself. The first step to solving a problem is, of course, to acknowledge that a problem exists. From there on, it is a matter of having the will to fight.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 8 years, 5 months ago

RB says... "...and (2) our adoption of European-style appeasement, under the guise of 'tolerance'—and the demise of Western civilization itself."

Funny, what you call appeasement, others would call the First Amendment of the US Constitution (or clauses of the Magna Carta, for that matter). So much for democracy, guess it did itself in.

remember_username 8 years, 5 months ago

R_Babcock - I checked out the link "Islam 101 website" that you provided and considered that in light of your view that too many of your fellow citizens are ignorant of the nature of Islamic faith. After following several of the other links presented and reading a selection of articles I was struck by the similarity of method found in so many anti-religious rhetoric, whether it is anti-Christian, anti-Pagan, or anti-Semitic. A follow up look at the "about us" links, and bios confirms the anti-Islamic agenda is often political, anti-Arabic, or pro-Christian in origin. If a problem of ignorance is demonstrated it is that the internet has multiplied the number of non-scholarly publications to the point where anybody can believably prove anything.

ukillaJJ 8 years, 5 months ago

Open up your history books and look up the Crusades. Dangerous people come in all shapes, colors, sizes, creeds, etc. Stereotyping and labeling dehumanizes.

Try communicating. Do you even know a person of a different ethnic of religious background? The world would be a better place if you (and everybody else) did.

parrothead8 8 years, 5 months ago

TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says… These people hate us for what we/who we are and always have. The radical jihadist is not just thinking, “I'm a muslim and because of that I want to kill Americans”. They're just thinking, “I want to kill Americans”.

First of all, they haven't ALWAYS hated us...that's been a recent development, like just in the last 40-50 years.

Second, I'm glad you make the distinction between a radical jihadist and a true follower of Islam. The billion or so Muslims who truly follow the Koran don't agree with the radical jihadists. Just like Christianity, Islam has its extreme sects.

Third, I'm still not sure why Hasan's actions should compel us to "profile" a certain population. After all, Terry Ratzmann, a Christian, middle-aged, white male shot and killed seven of his fellow church members unexpectedly in Wisconsin in March 2005. Robert Stewart, another Christian, middle-aged, white male, killed eight people in a Carthage NC nursing home just a few months ago. Should we also be profiling all Christian, middle-aged, white males?

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