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Investigation of Mangino launched after player complains coach poked him

Reesing tells media that Perkins told players an outside entity would conduct ‘unbiased’ investigation of football coach

KU football coach Mark Mangino fielded questions about a recent meeting between football players and Athletic Director Lew Perkins at his weekly Tuesday press conference at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

KU football coach Mark Mangino fielded questions about a recent meeting between football players and Athletic Director Lew Perkins at his weekly Tuesday press conference at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

November 17, 2009, 11:57 a.m. Updated November 17, 2009, 9:42 p.m.

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Mark Mangino spent about 10 minutes discussing an investigation the athletic department is conducting, as well as the upcoming game against Texas.

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Senior quarterback Todd Reesing provided more information about the investigation that is underway of KU football coach Mark Mangino.

The Kansas Athletic Department is conducting an investigation of football coach Mark Mangino and the Journal-World has confirmed the investigation began after Arist Wright complained that Mangino poked him in the chest in the days before KU took on Colorado.

In his weekly press conference, which was a brief 11 minutes, Mangino faced more than a dozen questions relating to news that broke this morning on KUsports.com that Athletic Director Lew Perkins held a meeting with members of the football team regarding concerns with Mangino.

Mangino opened up his press conference by saying he wouldn't comment on the matter, but ended up providing more information as questions persisted.

"I haven't lost the team one bit. I may have lost some people around here, but it's not players," Mangino said. "Take that for what it's worth, you decipher it."

Mangino confirmed he had a 10-15 minute meeting with Perkins after the athletic director met with players. He was not at the meeting with Perkins and the players.

"If you want to know what was said, I'm not disclosing it. He's the one who's disclosing information about it, I'm not," Mangino said.

KU senior quarterback Todd Reesing said the meeting was between Perkins only and the players.

"Lew said an unbiased person, who will have no opinions either way, will conduct the investigation," he said. "I think Lew's doing what he has to do in the position he's in."

Reesing added that he didn't think this had anything to do with the current record, but said he didn't want to talk about what the investigation was about.

When asked whether this would be a distraction with a game against No. 3 Texas coming up this weekend, Mangino said it wouldn't, but added he was taking this matter very seriously.

"We're really focused on Texas. You lose a few games and those things surface," he said. "We're thinking let's do everything in our power as coaches and players to get a win."

Reesing said, though, that there was no turmoil within the team, but that they'd have to work hard to remain focused.

"I told the guys not to talk about it," Reesing said. "We're going to have to find a way to stay focused on Texas."

Check back later for more information.

Comments

lily 5 years, 9 months ago

So does this mean big time money supporters are unhappy? That's what I take it to mean.

RogueThrill 5 years, 9 months ago

I am pretty sure it means the athletic department. Probably the donors too.

garyr 5 years, 9 months ago

Kirk Ferentz = Notre Dame Bob Stoops = Iowa Mangino = Oklahoma

That's my thought....Let it rattle around in your head for a bit.

aha 5 years, 9 months ago

"If you want to know what was said, I'm not disclosing it. He's the one who's disclosing information about it, I'm not," Mangino said.

Nice knowin' ya dude.

CLARKKENT 5 years, 9 months ago

MAYBE, JUST MAYBE IT IS TIME TO GET RID OF LEW PERKINS. IF YOU ARE NOT RICH, HE IS NOT YOUR TYPE OF AD.

Mangino_saurus 5 years, 9 months ago

I say hire Ron Prince! He's done more for KU recruiting then Mangino, and he already has 3 wins for KU

hbjayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

Well, Gale Sayers can't be happy about adding a multimillion dollar luxury box tower the stadium with this news circulating. Only a win against Texas (a well-deserved BCS buster we owe them for that 2005 phantom pass interference call on our Senior Day in Lawrence) will help him now. It will be hard to push support for a luxury tower when you are 5-6 staring down Mizzou in the finale. Three straight bowl wins would stregthen the case . . . as would have the Big 12 North title we would suppose to have.

By the way, where is our complaint to the Big 12 about officiating this season? The KUAC doesn't keep these stats, but did you know that KU is 0-9 in the Mangino era when Cooper Castleberry is the Referee in Big 12 games? Figures, that Texas punk! This is plain worse than the Ed Hightower curse from 1990-2007 in NCAA tournament games. Hell, he nearly took that Memphis game away from us in 2008! Thank goodness for Super Mario!

missmagoo 5 years, 9 months ago

Other news sources are saying it's about an altercation between Mangino and a player, and also how he treats the players in general. I guess there is also a committee of parents to players who are bringing forth complaints. Just check You Tube.. there is one video of him cursing out a player and it's pretty well known he has a hot temper. Check the KC Star, they always have better info :) (no offense LJW)

also, lew and mark have a WELL known dislike for each other (trust me), so i'm sure this is what he's talking about as far as "lost people."

manONmoon 5 years, 9 months ago

None of the players like Mangino. It is a fact. They are trying to get rid of him.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 9 months ago

Mangino is one of the highest paid college football coaches so I heard on ESPN.

Money and glass house stadiums do not always cause a winning team. Contrary to popular thinking among big donors. Isn't is strange what some do once they become wealthy?

Of course coaches can make enough in two or three years to set themselves up for life.

jimmyjms 5 years, 9 months ago

Anyone who says Lew Perkins isn't doing a good job as AD doesn't have a freaking clue what they're talking about.

You might not like it, but the man has done a hell of a good job. And that's coming from someone who lost his tickets.

garyr 5 years, 9 months ago

red_devil (Anonymous) says…

Although they haven't received any favors from officiating, the officiasls aren't to blame for this season.

And to the guy suggesting Mangino to OU…you are NUTS! What makes you think OU would have any interest?


Devil, do you know where he was before KU? If so, there is your answer.

areyouserious 5 years, 9 months ago

Toben Opurum aint happy................and 98% of them dont like Mangino, thats a fact!!!!

Kim Murphree 5 years, 9 months ago

Word is that Perkins wants to hire a Connecticut coach buddy of his---the timing of this doesn't get past all of us. I wouldn't be suprised if the AD came out with this mess to distract Magino and hopefully keep him from winning any more games---that would make it easier to fire him and hire someone from Connecticut. Let's see what happens.

BlackVelvet 5 years, 9 months ago

Mangino got his precious practice field, and now seldom uses it because of the way it's built. Someone might spy on his team! what a spoiled rotten slug!

classof75 5 years, 9 months ago

OK, I have a "Way out there" thought.....what if the players hate Mangino so much, they are purposely playing lousy losing games to get rid of him?

Mel Briscoe 5 years, 9 months ago

gale sayers might be a good a.d. actually... however, i don't think he resides in lawrence. i wasn't even aware he was going to fund that big addition to the station. that's kind of cool-- i wouldn't be able to afford sitting there but still, glad to know our most famous football player hasn't forgotten us. shrugs shoulders

yankeevet 5 years, 9 months ago

I hope we do get a real football coach soon.........KU has potential...........do what u must do Mr. Perkins!!!

garyr 5 years, 9 months ago

Devil, OU is 6-4. Far from being one of the "greatest programs in the country". If Stoops leaves, who else would you go after? Charlie Weiss? Yeah, right. Not sure if you remember, but Mangino did win a national championship w/ OU as their O - coordinator. That might be part of why they would consider him for the coaching job. Hasn't done too bad at KU either with the talent he has, other than Meier and Reesing.

nobody1793 5 years, 9 months ago

"Mangino did win a national championship w/ OU as their O - coordinator."

Todd Haley won a super bowl as a O-coordinator...

javelin 5 years, 9 months ago

Lew Perkins is a great man. The students, student-athletes and employees of the athletic department all love him. He is honest, hard-working and smart. We are lucky to have Lew and Gwen in Lawrence!

garyr 5 years, 9 months ago

1793, Todd Haley made it to the Super Bowl, he didn't win one. Cards lost to the Steelers.

nobody1793 5 years, 9 months ago

"1793, Todd Haley made it to the Super Bowl, he didn't win one. Cards lost to the Steelers."

Yeah, you're right. Meh, they are who I thought they were.

garyr 5 years, 9 months ago

I got you now......nobody 1793 is Dennis Green! You could coach KU!

areyouserious 5 years, 9 months ago

re-living Varsity Blues???

FIRE ED WARRINER

parrothead8 5 years, 9 months ago

merrill (Anonymous) says… Mangino is one of the highest paid college football coaches so I heard on ESPN.

That's true. Mangino is the 16th-highest paid NCAA Div. I football coach at $2.3M, tied with Paul Johnson of Georgia Tech. (I'd be set for life with one year of his salary.)

Some notable coaches who make less than Mangino: Frank Beamer - Virginia Tech ($2.1M), Jeff Tedford - California ($1.85M), and Joe Paterno - Penn State ($1.5M). Mangino makes about twice as much as Bill Snyder at K-State or Mike Gundy at O-State. He makes a little over three times as much as Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern.

lctchr1 5 years, 9 months ago

This is just sad. As a fan who has had season tickets for football for many, many years, when we sucked, this is just sad. Such momentum in the program. Hopefully we will get more concrete details soon.

nbnozzy 5 years, 9 months ago

hey, hey, hey.... my "Mangenious" baseball hat is only a few months old and not fully broken in. Bought it at the annual sidewalk sale. Gotta keep Mark around for at least another year.

Kristen Downing 5 years, 9 months ago

This whole thing makes me sick. A bunch of whiny kids and their mommies and daddies go behind the coaches back. They have ruined the season for the rest of the team. Do you really think any coach of any caliber would come to a school where a bunch of whiners get the attention of the AD? Grow up. This is how most of this generation deals with things..mommy! daddy! I should know, I am recruiter for a large corp. I interview anyone whose parent is involved and they don't even get a look. Grow up and learn the meaning of loyalty. Mangino deserves better than this.

puddleglum 5 years, 9 months ago

mangino does deserve better.

can't believe students and coaches (?) are going behind his back. after what he has accomplished here? orange bowl victory?

Mark, if you read any of these above posters, you know they have no idea what they are talking about.

irunsowhat 5 years, 9 months ago

@red_devil

I don't understand why no other schools have come at Mangino. I do think once Joe Pa dies and there is a vacancy at Penn State, Mangino will be the first one they call. He is from Pennsylvania and has shown potential in recruiting as well as coaching.

@everyone else

I don't know what has happened this year with the on and off field issues, but as far as any of us know, it could be a freak accident. The fact that they have lost 5 games is a bit odd, but at the same time, it happens. Teams lose games, teams aren't as good as what they thought they would be, so get over it.

I don't know why anybody would be calling for Mangino's head after they have put this program on the map. No longer is Kansas flirting with Iowa State and Baylor for last place in the conference. They may have a poor record this year, but they are still a team that causes the other teams to prepare for, unlike the past Jayhawks that could have been beat by Lawrence High...

We will see the outcome of all of this, but I do think it would absolutely insane if Mangino lost his job for this type of thing (losing record, player behavior). Bottom line, this guy has put you on the map.

Bob Harvey 5 years, 9 months ago

KC news are stating it deals with physical and verbal abuse by the coach toward some players. Interesting.

lionsrock 5 years, 9 months ago

Does anyone know what Coach Mangino's win/loss record is versus Big 12 teams since he's been head coach?

LawrenceKSHomeBoy 5 years, 9 months ago

Iransowhat,

What do you mean "No longer is Kansas flirting with Iowa State and Baylor for last place in the conference." Baylor wins one more and KU won't be flirting at all. Man-gina is bad news. Glad Lew is taking out the trash.

Shortcircuit 5 years, 9 months ago

Something else he didn't lose.................weight!

hbjayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

I agree with Lew Perkins to a certain extent. He is taking the temperature of a program that will support the expansion of Memorial Stadium, increased athletics giving (which exceeds academic giving). His meeting with players is justified. I am a die-hard fan and I believe the amount he is paid justifies the need to win--now! Lew is under the gun and if I were in his shoes, I would have to re-evaluate Mangino's future. If he has a player incident as my inside source has confirmed to me, this is the perfect opportunity to scapegoat him out. Mangino will be gone. KU has a much easier schedule next season (take a look for yourself) and Perkins knows that having a new "high caliber" replacement go 10-2 (6-2 in Big 12) with a loss to Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game will reassure Kansans and KU Athletics that football is precious to taxpayers and alumni.

Mark my words . . . literally, Mangino is history. We will have a big name coach here and I promise an immensely successful 2010 season as stated above with our 1st Big 12 North title . . . Perkins gets his support for the expansion, Sayers rallies the money, and the bottomline is that our beloved Jayhawks are better than Mangino left them.

Mark, thanks for the memories. We will never forget your rightful place in our history. Beat Texas and they should bronze a statue ... beat Mizzou and we will plant flowers around it ... win that bowl game and you will have 53 career wins which coincidentally makes you the GREATEST in KU Football History. Just another Mark for your successor to set his sights on and another notch in your belt to earn more and achieve more in another program.

This is a business. I wish everyone would stop thinking about "Jayhawks Athletics" or "KU" . . . Lew has a contract to enforce and Mangino isn't owning up to his end. KUAC could lose millions if we don't make a change.

Sorry to break the news, folks.

BigDog 5 years, 9 months ago

Comparing North Carolina basketball and Kansas football... is like comparing the speaking abilities of Barack Obama with John McCain

Both situations one is at a much higher level of ability ... now you could compare the basketball programs ... but Kansas football with North Carolina basketball is a joke

BigDog 5 years, 9 months ago

Like him or not .... one thing Mark Mangino has done is creat interest in the football program at Kansas.

How many games sold out prior to Mark Mangino?

rgh 5 years, 9 months ago

I love how a couple of people say it's a "fact" that most of the players don't like Mangino. If that were even a "guess" then you would have been hearing from the likes of Fine, MacAnderson, etc., etc.

The reason KU has money for Lew to spend is from Bill Self winning the NCAA title and Mangino winning an Orange Bowl. Even Reesing said he has nothing bad to say about Mangino and being a senior would have no reason to keep quiet.

I'm guessing you have a couple of upset upperclassmen who aren't playing now and griping to Lew. They have to do an investigation to go through the motions. The ESPN.com article explains it much better than it does here.

HogJiver 5 years, 9 months ago

I hear Goodyear has offered the coach a multi-year contract to replace the blimp. Now KU must match the offer.

Go Jayhawks

areyouserious 5 years, 9 months ago

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Phil Minkin 5 years, 9 months ago

Word on some message boards is that he bitch slapped one of the players on the bus after the Colorado game.
What mother is going to want her son to play for a guy who is known to
abuse his kids? No way they can keep him as coach with that neg. in
recruiting. If true, he's toast.

greenworld 5 years, 9 months ago

Shaving points investigation or coach has an anger management problem and is beating all of his players for not performing. Obviously there is a problem somewhere if the players arent performing and they are top caliber players.

greenworld 5 years, 9 months ago

I heard the KC Chiefs were in talk with him about taking over and firing Haley.

mr_right_wing 5 years, 9 months ago

Oh no! Not Coach v. AD again!? (Do you recall how Roy v. Al turned out?)

notajayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

vocal (Anonymous) says…

"Word is that Perkins wants to hire a Connecticut coach buddy of his–the timing of this doesn't get past all of us. I wouldn't be suprised if the AD came out with this mess to distract Magino and hopefully keep him from winning any more games–that would make it easier to fire him and hire someone from Connecticut. Let's see what happens."

You do know that, although Lew's last job was there, Lew himself is not from Connecticut?

7texdude 5 years, 9 months ago

Do you know what losers do? They gripe and complain and turn on each other. (See Kansas football in focus.) I don't remember any complaints when KU was 5-0. It's like OU and Billy Tubbs. They loved him until he starting losing.

If MM physically assaulted a player, then he needs to get fired. You can't do that (unless your Bobby Knight). But are we sure of this? When will Lew Perkins speak.....and himself not through media leaks.

I don't understand when people say," We'll get a bigtime coach now." We have one. The same players who led KU to 2 straight bowl wins are not delivering the goods. What do you do? Lose 7 in a row. Fire your coach. Alienate your fans/donors. Way to go KU. We'll see how much character and class KU has now. It can only get better.

jonas_opines 5 years, 9 months ago

Seriously, he got "poked"?

This makes us look pretty fearsome. If I were Texas, I'd be worried.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 5 years, 9 months ago

Winners do not "invite" opportunity for distraction, Mr. Wright. This complaint needed to wait for the end of the season. We will lose every one of the rest of our games, and do so embarrasingly. This kind of thing destroys teamwork and morale, dummy. This has been brewing for weeks, and we've been losing for weeks. Does anyone else see the correlation?

Poked in the chest. This ain't like working for Bill Gates; this is football! I've seen coaches do that on ESPN.

riverdrifter 5 years, 9 months ago

Co-sign with hbjayhawk. My lone 'source' (but always spot-on with KU football scuttlebutt) sez Mangino is gone.

Jimo 5 years, 9 months ago

Hmmm...the last AD who tried to pull this type of horse hockey had his head handed to him on a platter. I think it was something like 'crushed in a giant hand.'

Chancellor, you've fired one AD before - what have you got to lose at this point by making it two?

9070811 5 years, 9 months ago

Bernadette Gray-Little has never fired an AD before.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 9 months ago

Now I get it. Mangino poked a football player weeks and weeks ago hmmmmmmm. The football season isn't going well soooooooo the poking issue is a means by which to dump Mangino. Whoaaaaaaaaaaa.

Is it typical for parents of college football players to complain about a football coach? Don't parents realize college football is not the same as their hometown program?

If Mangino must go due a bad season why don't the powers that be say so?

As I see it college coaching positions are short term when a school is trying to develop itself as a primo athletic program.

igby 5 years, 9 months ago

Arist Wright, got poked, a wuss that got poked! Arist Wright, is done at KU. He'll get jumped on the street by some fans who don't like his whining butt. He'll get poked for sure.

igby 5 years, 9 months ago

This should of never got to the public! It should of been handled without publicity. A football player gets poked when he's getting his butt coached and he's whining.

Linda Aikins 5 years, 9 months ago

I will wait for the information before jumping to a ridiculous conclusion. I will say that when my hubby played, they were constantly poked and yelled at - things that today would bring lawsuits.

Rickyonealku 5 years, 9 months ago

Try taking a look at the following college football programs for 2009. Kansas University and Tennessee University Off the field issues at Kansas the big one is football vs basketball players fighting. Off the field issues at Tennessee.....young men being kicked off the team for armed robbery. Being projected all summer long as North Division Champs for Kansas very dis-heartning. Tennessee....that coach just can't keep his mouth shut. Now Kansas Fans you pick.... Mangino stay or leave????

Jean1183 5 years, 9 months ago

Seriously? Poked??? Send the wuss to bootcamp and see if he gets yelled at or "poked".

Mel Briscoe 5 years, 9 months ago

poked??! wow..... THAT's what they're doing an investigation about? seriously? that sounds so effing wimpy. i mean, really....

Frightwig 5 years, 9 months ago

JackRipper please, for the love of Pete, get your meds adjusted.

I think it's funny that some of you blowhards are getting worked into such a froth over this. A football coach poked a played in the chest. Who cares? I used to get hit a lot harder than that by nuns when I was in grade school but I never ran to the media about it. This issue says a lot more about the player who got poked than it does about Mangino.

pfunk81 5 years, 9 months ago

HbJayhawk, it doesn't hurt to dream big but if you think some new coach is just going to run in here and win a Big 12 north title, I'd love to have what you are smoking. Maybe Lew can coach the team?

Ricky_Vaughn 5 years, 9 months ago

LarryNative (Anonymous) says…

And after Roy left…..KU won a national championship.

And before Mangino got here KU won...................................................gotta go back a ways.....................................................

parrothead8 5 years, 9 months ago

A football field is a different world from walking around campus or downtown. If it hurts your feelings too much for your coach to yell mean words at you or poke you in the chest, you should probably try a different sport...maybe cribbage. Or beer pong, like a regular college student.

tbaker 5 years, 9 months ago

And the winner is: Parrothead8! Couldn't agree more.

I wonder how the whiners complaining about getting chewed out would feel about the form of humiliation that comes from riding the bench? They would do well to consider the fact there are a lot of young men who would jump at the chance to get profanity screamed in their face if it meant they got to play. Instead of stabbing their coach in the back these ingrates should count their blessings and try harder.

redmorgan 5 years, 9 months ago

Poked him? Are you kidding me? Geez, kids are such candy asses anymore.

HogJiver 5 years, 9 months ago

It's time for the two of them to sit down with the "Old Jayhawk" and have a beer.

9070811 5 years, 9 months ago

I don't know why some of you are picking on the player. We have no idea as to what the real story is. We all know that it has to be a lot more than poking. We see poking on the sidelines all the time.

Tom McCune 5 years, 9 months ago

... because he poked him? My coaches kicked and punched guys. My coaches were all WWII combat veterans that didn't give a rodent's colon about your delicate sensibilities.....

Ricky_Vaughn 5 years, 9 months ago

If Lew called that special meeting and is conducting an investigation, I'm willing to bet there's more going on than chest poking...think about it.

Ricky_Vaughn 5 years, 9 months ago

Agreed. I just think it's unfair to call out the player...with all this smoke, there has to be a pretty big fire somewhere...

ralphralph 5 years, 9 months ago

Mangino ate Woody Hayes, and he's trying to get out!

RKLOG 5 years, 9 months ago

Just watched the video on YouTube. What a cranky little porky pig.

kanshawk 5 years, 9 months ago

"It makes me wonder if you know the different between a sneeze and a wet fart! "

daddax98 5 years, 9 months ago

wright has always been a soft, whiny, cry baby

pace 5 years, 9 months ago

i would say Lew was the right man, he is willing, ready and able to squash, run over and cheat alumni, the town, and the University to keep the Athletic Corporation in the black and on top.
I thought I would just cut and paste the rest. This issue would be nullified if the “team was "winning” is the type of mentality that excuses poor behavior with sports winning. It is the person who hides from personal responsibility because they find permission in the mob mentality. It says lets get drunk, let's trash other's property, let's vomit on others, let's bribe players, beat up people, winning is the only thing. What miserable person thinks that one can be crass or rude because how they “feel” about a team. It is this corruption of sports culture that has taken sports to it's decayed decadent excess instead of healthy athleticism and sportsmanship. There is no movement to keep sportsmanship or concern for the individual in sports today. There is no I in team, just a $ sign. Today's sports are a drug that harms youth as surely as drink. Over played, pushed, corrupted, propagandized, injured, young people supporting the adrenalin rush of tailgaters. Youth continually told winning is the only thing. There is no character building just justification of behaviors, excuses. The major justification for allowing sports fever to be virulent is that it is a cash cow. If that is all we want, lets make crime legal and tax it.

RKLOG 5 years, 9 months ago

Natural selection has more to do with adapting to today's problems more than it has to do with being a winner. Tomorrow it can be a world dominated my sea horses.

pace 5 years, 9 months ago

winning is empty and vain. Great victory can be gained in loss.

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