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Unfair attack

March 10, 2009

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To the editor:

To read the latest Journal-World Saturday Column, one would think President Obama views the current economic crisis as nothing more than an opportunity to advance a liberal agenda. Give him credit. He is trying to preserve a way of life by cleaning up the mess left by bankers, insurance companies, automotive manufacturers, and the past administration. The column fails to mention their role in this at all.

Their irresponsible behavior in the last eight years reflects the ideology of excessive capitalism President Obama has every reason to oppose. The author of the column tries to defend that ideology while neglecting more important realities. From the daily reporting of lost homes, interrupted careers, halted educations and failed businesses that now litter the economic landscape, it should be clear to even a right-wing newspaper publisher that the president’s actions have a basis in reality.

Instead of falsely accusing President Obama of the faults of the last president, the Journal-World would do better to deal with the truth of these hard times. If you don’t want politics as usual, don’t practice it.

Paul Fairchild,
Lawrence

Comments

KS 5 years, 9 months ago

The article failed to mention the stupid union contracts that the automakers have in place. I blame both sides on that one. There are two signatures on the contract. The artlcle doesn't mention the lawsuit that was filed in Federal Court in the 90's that forced the regulators to relax the rules on home loans that allowed folks to buy a house that could not afford them. BTW, BHO was the plantiffs attorney on that one. Yeah, I give the man his due. He has an extremely liberal agenda and it ain't going to work. Let stop the bleeding while we can, but no, he is okay with your 401k going down the tubes. He has said nothing positive (and nothing without a teleprompter) since he got into office and the market has responded accordingly. The stock market looks into the future. Not the past and they don't like what they see and until they do, your 401k is done, gone, fini, over. Then you can turn to your great savior for more government programs that are going to have to be paid for and not just by the rich but by everyone. You guys wanted change? You are going to get it. You just haven't figured out the kind of change you are going to get and when you do, it will be too late. Wake up America. BTW, Bush is gone. BHO is in control now and his first days in office are not looking so good. Will you guys still blame Bush four years from now? This problem started long before Bush. It started when the American people started feeling good about living beyond their means. Let's see, that probably started in maybe the 60's. Who was in control then? Hummm!

Flap Doodle 5 years, 9 months ago

"March 9 (Bloomberg) -- Back in the 1960s, Lyndon Johnson gave us the War on Poverty. In the 1970s, Richard Nixon launched the War on Drugs. Now that we have seen President Barack Obama’s first-year legislative agenda, we know what kind of a war he intends to wage.

It is no wonder that markets are imploding around us. Obama is giving us the War on Business. "

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=amhpOT5rlR1Y

grammaddy 5 years, 9 months ago

And he didn't inherit any of this mess, did he. Gee, why hasn't he solved ALL the problems yet. What do you mean it's only been 45 days??!!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"The artlcle doesn't mention the lawsuit that was filed in Federal Court in the 90's that forced the regulators to relax the rules on home loans that allowed folks to buy a house that could not afford them. BTW, BHO was the plantiffs attorney on that one. "

Really? What was that lawsuit? Got a link? Was there anything else that caused the subprime meltdown, or was it strictly a matter of lenders being "forced" to lend to unqualified borrowers?

" Will you guys still blame Bush four years from now? This problem started long before Bush. "

While the blame doesn't lie solely with him or his administration, much of it does, and Bush should rightly be blamed for the rest of eternity.

labmonkey 5 years, 9 months ago

Gram-

He didn't inherit it, he ASKED for it. When you run for President, you asked for the problems the nation might have. If he did not want the job, he should not have run. You don't bitch and whine about inheriting the past guy's mess when you take a job. It makes you look like a d-bag. There is a guy where I work who blames the last guy for everything wrong and he isn't looked upon very highly...but I forget, Barak hasn't had or stuck with a real job before this.

Instead of passing an extension to unemployment and mortgage help for those in trouble, the Democrats shoved through a pork filled bill that fix neither of these problems and contained everything on their liberal wish list. Instead of stopping the bleeding, they just stabbed us 785 billion more times. It is not his or the government's job to solve all the problems. We should have learned our lesson with the failure (yes failure) of the New Deal. Only World War II brought us out of the Depression, and most of the New Deal was overturned by 1945. In its wake were generations of people on welfare that only ended when Clinton signed welfare reform in the 1990's.

Hoots 5 years, 9 months ago

I am no fan of George Bush but this was not just a Bush disaster. This whole mess works its way back into the mid 1990's when certain trading and banking practices were allowed to continue after being illegal for 90 years. Congress enacted laws in around 1905 to outlaw many of the things that got us in this mess. Unfortunately, Greenspan and Congress thought it would be a good idea to allow these practices once again after being lobbied heavily by the financial sector. Bill Clinton then signed this into law. This mess is on the backs of both democrats and republicans. I'm so sick of people who know nothing about history blaming huge complicated issues on just one thing or one person. The practices that have us in this mess now did much the same 100 years ago but here we go again. This is akin to burning yourself on a hot stove and thinking the outcome will be the same a week later. This time bomb took over a decade to show its ugly face.

The president is not our King. I find it funny that people are so ignorant of our process. It takes Congress to do almost anything. It is not done under Royal Decree by one individual. I takes a whole room full of idiots to make a mess this big. It also takes ignorance of the past as well. This financial disaster was purchased by lobbyist and the souls sold to them by the people elected to represent us. Stop hating Bush long enough to see the bigger picture. There are many culprits involved in this.

AjiDeGallina 5 years, 9 months ago

The fact is, the last elections show the GOP is not trusted to fix this mess and is responsible mostly for allowing it to happen.

Whining about loosing is all I hear...not accepting responsibility and asking forgiveness and looking for redemption and helping find a solution.

Until I hear that from the GOP, it is all just whining, and rather childish at that.

They failed us and failed us miserably.

I hope they get their act together because I do want a balanced system, but so far they are whining about stem-cells, abortion and fighting to protect the wealth of big business and the rich while opposing health-care and education.

They keep doing the same thing and they will keep getting the same results...failure.

Jason Bailey 5 years, 9 months ago

@parrotuya: Well, at least tax cuts have a demonstrated track record for actually working to reverse a downturned economy (see early 80's for backing data). The current administration continues to simply throw billions and even trillions of dollars at the problem. No results, no rebound in the markets -- in fact, companies that have benefited from the funds continues to slide further towards bankruptcy.

I'll go with a proven cure any day over conjecture and didactic reasoning.

Jason Bailey 5 years, 9 months ago

@Hoots: Your post made a dozen liberals reading it suddenly have smoke erupt from their ears. You made them think and that's a no-no. They simply feel.

The fact, which you eloquently stated, is that Congress is a check and balance to the President. And who controlled Congress since 2004 when this mess really ratcheted up to a crescendo? Add to that, whichever party wields majority power in Congress appoints Chairs to the various committees where oversight is supposed to happen. Oversight was lacking which means the Democratic Chairs failed us miserably. These same Chairpersons are still in place, squirting charcoal lighter on a burning funeral pyre which used to be the nation's economy via enormous debt.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"And who controlled Congress since 2004 when this mess really ratcheted up to a crescendo?"

Republicans, actually. Democrats didn't regain control till January 2007, and this disaster was already well under way by then. And between 1994 and 2001, Republicans had control of both houses. Between Jan 2001 and Jan 2003, Democrats had a slim plurality, not a majority.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

Hoots makes a good point, but the point isn't that the blame for this mess lies with the Democrats. The point is that it lies with both parties, which is quite correct, although I would contend that that's largely because both parties adopted the Reaganesque mindset that we should have a government of, by and for major corporations, giving us capitalism is for poor people, but socialism for the rich.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"Between Jan 2001 and Jan 2003, Democrats had a slim plurality, not a majority."

In the Senate, that is. Republicans still controlled the House of Reps.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

BTW, it should be remembered that for most of the period between Jan 2001 and Jan 2003, Congress was busy dealing with the aftermath of 9/11, when BushCo was busy lying to the American people, and Congress, to justify its illegal war in Iraq. This rendered the Democrats very slim "control" of the Senate during this time virtually meaningless.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"Give him credit. He is trying to preserve a way of life..."

Umm, I beg to differ. The business of America is Business, and so far BO has done his level best to subvert that truth. He's not trying to preserve much at all, but change everything. Honestly, I don't know which way is best or even up right now and I'm not trying to argue either side, but please don't try and say he's attempting to "preserve our way of life". It just ain't true.

"Their irresponsible behavior in the last eight years reflects the ideology of excessive capitalism"

Sorry, Paul, but this statement combined with the above makes your letter more than a little silly. I hate parsing: -"Their.."- you've missed a number of players that have a hand in this mess, i.e. home construction builders, ALL politicians that have failed to close the borders, countless consumers, ...and the list goes on. -"irresponsible behavior"- not completely wrong, but 'greed' may be a better catchall. And again, consumers are not innocents here either. -"in the last eight years"- don't be a partisan numbskull. This has been building for much longer than eight years.
-"reflects the ideology of excessive capitalism"- Oh, For the Love of Elmo! So much wrong with that fragment it's not worth trying to cover it all.

Things are bad, Paul, and BO needs and deserves some leeway. I for one, while exceptionally nervous about his tactics, am willing to wait and see. I can understand criticism of the editorial you reference, this was just a poorly worded response.
"If you don’t want politics as usual, don’t practice it."
Look in the mirror. Unfortunately, the latest 'politics as usual' is to choose an ideological side and blame the opposition for everything. Sound familiar?

JackKats 5 years, 9 months ago

I am so sick of seeing the finger pointing towards everyone and everything. It is, We the People, that have continually sent power hungry elitists to the White House, Senate, House and have listened to their lies with itching ears. We have taken the pay back of either our special interests being met or our own pockets lined or our life being managed by Big Government.The blogs prove that the partisanship of, We the People, is the partisanship that is killing our country. Not until we take back the government with our voice, vote and action, we are the only ones to blame. It is our responsibility to do something about it instead of sending someone to Washington to take care of it for us. But keep your arguing and blogging to your heart’s content. Continue the adolescent name calling, inmature arguments, and let the business as usual go on in Washington. We have nothing to lose but our own values, freedoms, individuality, choices and responsibilities.

In the end, the power hungry will grab the power, take control over everything and we will be left scratching our heads with our finger up our arse wondering how it all happened. Look in the mirror and the problem will be seen.

gogoplata 5 years, 9 months ago

What we have had for the last 8 years is a far cry from free market capitalism. Government is the problem so more government is not going to be the solution. Obama is a liar. He ran on change and he is continuing many of the the piss poor policies of the Bush administration.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 9 months ago

The Popinjay in Chief just steered the boat onto the rocks. Get him out of there & let Joe "where's the scotch?" Biden have a whack at it. If he fails, a do-over election would be the ticket.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"I think it unwise for citizens to give politicians the benefit of the doubt. That is how we ended up in a war in Iraq"

Huh. Did we miss our opportunity to vote on that, or what?

canyon_wren 5 years, 9 months ago

Hoots--that was great. Clicking on your "handle," I see you haven't contributed many posts since you signed on about 4 years ago. You should participate more.

As far as the writer's statement that Obama is trying to "preserve a way of life"--what BALDERDASH! Everything he has come up with so far sounds like an attempt to DESTROY our way of life.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"So yes, I guess we missed our opportunity several times."

Huh? Still just trying to figure your rationale for the first statement. We never had a vote on Iraq, so the above is non-responsive. Missing an opportunity to elect the 'right people' has nothing to do with 'blind faith', either. I mean no offense, but it seems you're looking for more of a crystal ball effect. Seriously, how were we supposed to vet our reps in the three years prior to Iraq in order to predict how they vote later? And while I for one never wanted us going back into Iraq, I don't believe that was the consensus of the population at the time, was it?

Jason Bailey 5 years, 9 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus wrote:

"Congress was busy dealing with the aftermath of 9/11, when BushCo was busy lying to the American people, and Congress, to justify its illegal war in Iraq."

Would you please explain what makes any war legal vs. illegal? Wouldn't a good bleeding heart think any and all war is illegal since it kills lives and is "immoral" in essence of being?

You guys are simply hilarious. Illegal...that was worth a laugh.

KsTwister 5 years, 9 months ago

Katrina, Haliburton,the war,inadequate oversight on banking operations,use of torture------Only Bush gets credit for those.

Hoots 5 years, 9 months ago

My point was not at all middle of the road. The fact is this mess goes back to bad legislation that came about through Lobbyist gaining favor with our elected folks on both sides of the isle. This change in the law was signed into being during Clinton. I'm not blaming Bill on the one completely either. The law allowed the very rich to go for more of a money grab and put us in the ditch over time instead. Now we bail out the same people that wanted these changes and lobbied for them so hard.

Government oversight has not worked very well under several administrations. An expert on economics sent no less than 5 letters to the SEC regarding the fraud Madoff was running but it went on deaf ears. They interviewed him on 60 Minutes and he said the folks at the SEC couldn't find home plate in a baseball stadium if you left them there all day. He said most of the people employed there are attorneys and the only thing they really know how to do is make sure their own paperwork is filled out properly. This is just another example of the failure of big government. The more they try to do the worse they get at it. It seems the best and the brightest stay in the private sector.

Jason Bailey 5 years, 9 months ago

Logicsound wrote:

"Hilarious. Hoots makes a pretty middle-of-the-road post decrying the role of BOTH parties in our current mess, and the usual suspects fall all over themselves congratulating him on “making smoke pour out liberals' ears” or whatever."

If you're going to quote me, as you did in your post, credit it. It's simple etiquette. I'm a firm believer that both parties are to blame, which was Hoots point, which I congratulated him for making, which certainly made a few liberals think, which is not good when their brains are skulls full of mush from a steady diet of "change", "hope", "welfare", and "take from the rich", which, finally, results in smoke emanating from orifices. Simple medical fact.

Seriously, though, Hoots point (which I said was right) is that any person is 100% wrong when they point the finger at one group and say "You caused this mess!". That was what the LTE said which he refuted. Guess you don't really know the "usual suspects" after all.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"Regardless, if you don't like all this vague metaphor BS, we knew in 2002 that Bush wanted to make a push for war in Iraq, and the mid-term victory of the GOP gave him the encouragement and votes that he needed."

Yeah, Liberty, don't care to respond to the preceding paragraph of the above in it's 'metaphorical' form. You're waaaaaay out there in abstracts and it's pointless to wade into all that. But even the above is 'armchair quarterbacking' and we'd have needed a crystal ball to foresee all that's transpired. Bush wanted the Iraq war and we gave it to him by voting in the GOP? Perhaps......but that still doesn't tie into your original 'blind faith' comment. Besides, what you describe is a typical response for virtually any country, not just ours. Israel has been getting attacked, they vote for those that promote action rather than diplomacy. If Britain, France, Japan, South Africa, etc. were attacked they'd respond at the polls the same way. Not sayin' one's right or wrong, just that it seems to be the normal 'kneejerk' response. Then they get tired of being the aggressor, tired of the bloodshed, and they go back to voting for the doves. I ask again, after 9/11 how much of this country's citizens were intitially behind the attack on Iraq? It was a heavy majority wasn't it? (I truly don't recall)

AjiDeGallina 5 years, 9 months ago

75,

I have to remind you that I am an American, born and raised, and it is funny you suggesting I am otherwise as a passive agressive tap at my patriotism since you are the bigest traitor to the USA since Benedict Arnold. You have failed the Constitution more times than I can count and generally supported more anti-American views than anyone else here with your messages of hate and lies.

If that, however, is all you have to offer...and it is clear it is..you are perhaps the best spokesperson for the current GOP and the best argument for them to clean up their act.

Thank you for setting the worst example, I just hope your mother can stand the shame.

PrincessD 5 years, 9 months ago

Cost of the Bush era: $11.5 trillion - Obama hasn't resolved this, yet???..Oh my, whatever is taking him so long?!

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"Before or after the propaganda campaign started for war in Iraq?"

Gotcha. Ya can't explain or justify the 'blind faith' comment, can't answer how we had the 'opportunity' to vote against the Iraq war (except with some nonsensical metaphor about 50 years of blah blah blah...), and now the above obfuscation. Well done. Thanks for wasting my time. Pleasure not talking with ya.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"Would you please explain what makes any war legal vs. illegal?"

By international law, wars of aggression, (i.e., preemptory strikes) are illegal. Especially when the"preemptory strike" doesn't preempt anything.

Hoots 5 years, 9 months ago

The reality is most Americans or short sighted and completely ignorant of how an economy works. I forget his name but a very well respected economist put it this way. "Most Americans view the economy as an agile sports car that can turn on a dime...in reality the economy is an enormous oil tanker on a huge ocean. It takes miles and miles to turn it around." This started in approximately 1995 and it has been a long way between here and there. Jimmy Carter is a prime example of someone who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. In my opinion he was a weak president. Beside that point Jimmy came into office at a time when the economy was going in the tank. He took the lick yet it had almost nothing to do with his policies or anything he did. It was a problem in the making for years before he sat in the Oval Office.

I have one real worry. Obama is doing what the Japanese did in the 90’s and they refer to it as the lost decade. What they did deepened there recession and made it last much longer. This course of action was a disaster for the Japanese. I just hope we aren’t doomed to the same fate.

Cooky_the_Cook 5 years, 9 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

By international law, wars of aggression, (i.e., preemptory strikes) are illegal. Especially when the”preemptory strike” doesn't preempt anything.

Cooky says...

Me and bozo held an international court trial. The U.S.A. was found guilty. Shame on you, America. And bozo meant to say "preemptive." Sometimes international law geniuses accidentally use the word "preemptory," but it is too smart of a word for most of you idiot Bushco sycophants.

shotgun 5 years, 9 months ago

Paul, Thanks for your letter.

Boy! I don't know what the citizens of Lawrence would do without the unsurpassed intellect of JAYWALKER.

The epitome of arrogance!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"Me and bozo held an international court trial."

No trial was necessary.

From Article 2, section 4 of the UN Charter (ie, international law)

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

"And bozo meant to say “preemptive.” Sometimes international law geniuses accidentally use the word “preemptory,”"

From now on, I'll be sure to attribute all my typos to my "genius."

jonas_opines 5 years, 9 months ago

"@Hoots: Your post made a dozen liberals reading it suddenly have smoke erupt from their ears. You made them think and that's a no-no. They simply feel."

“I'm a firm believer that both parties are to blame, which was Hoots point, which I congratulated him for making…”

Jason2007. (to include. . . proper citation)

I don't think I actually have to add commentary to this. Obvious Contradiction is Obvious.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

I apologize for demonstrating how foolish and uninformed your post on another string happened to be, shotgun. My bad.

Jason Bailey 5 years, 9 months ago

@jonas: Thanks, man. That's all I'm asking for...royalties for reprinting my quotes will be coming soon. After all, gotta have some way to make a living once Obama finishes "fixing" the economy for us.

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