Letters to the Editor

Threat to nation

March 10, 2009


To the editor:

Every word from Washington shouts, “Don’t worry! We are going to take care of you.”

We do not want the government taking care of us! Where there is greed, it should be punished, not rewarded. If these “stimulus” packages are enacted, who is going to strive to succeed, work at being a good boss or employee, or save rather than have luxuries? Who will teach our children they can do or be whatever they desire if they give it their all to achieve, rise above the average, find joy in their accomplishments and thank God and all the people who have given them the platforms on which they are standing?

Yes, I remember the Great Depression. All of us suffered. My parents took food to those without, gave meals to the men who “rode the rails” to find work, gave professional care without expecting to be paid, always worried they could not pay for groceries, the telephone, the gas or water bill, the taxes. We Americans work for what we receive and give to others.

Stop this madness that is destroying our great nation. It was founded to protect us from our enemies and give us freedom. You do not seem to know who the enemy is and you are taking away our freedom — the use of our money, decisions in the field of medicine, opinions and beliefs on the airwaves — even in the pulpit! Are you listening to us, Washington?

Mary Lou Penny,


mom_of_three 8 years, 11 months ago

I don't think it is the 'madness that is destroying the nation." And not everything in the stimulus package is bad. The aid for schools will be greatly welcomed by some parents who would not be able to afford the no-doubt increase in fees after the proposed budget reduction for schools.
And yes, your family helped others during the depression. Great. But from what I read now, people are willing to let others go down the drain because it is "their fault" to be in the situation they are in. I am not talking about rich greed, but working families who were "supposed" to be doing more. I am not sure that this country would reach out to take care of each other as they did 70+ years ago.

mom_of_three 8 years, 11 months ago

And no, I don't approve of the bailouts for greedy people who ran their companies into the ground.

VTHawk 8 years, 11 months ago

"Not everything is bad" is a bad standard to hold a policy to. The stimulus does little more than steal from the upper-middle class (200k in a big city is like $90 in Ks) to bail out failing businesses and the homeowners that CAUSED the crisis to begin with. Everyone is quick to point out the greed of the banks, but nobody points out that people benefited from borrowing against a false valuation for their home.

Maddy Griffin 8 years, 11 months ago

And what would your solution be, VTHawk? I see a lot of criticisms against President Obama in this paper but I don't see anyone offering up any solutions.

labmonkey 8 years, 11 months ago

Great LTE Mary Lou.

Gram- The solution is to pass a few stopgap measures such as extending unemployment and possibly some help for mortgage owners....NOT to pass 785 million in pork. Even if, and that is a huuuuuge if, the stimulus package succeeds in its intent, all it will do is create another bubble, and what will save us then? Let the market actually correct itself from these last two artifically high bubbles and start over. If the poor need help, pass single, non-earmarked bills that have an end date to the aid.

AjiDeGallina 8 years, 11 months ago

The failure of this letter starts with the first sentence.

I have not heard Washington say they are going to take care of us, I have only heard them they are going to try and save the infrastructure long-enough for us to take care of ourselves.

Everyone is hurting and suffering and having to help find the solution, the Government is just playing one roll, they are NOT offering to fix everything for us and Obama has made it quite clear we hold responsibility.

I realize Limbaughian soundbites are fun to repeat, but that does not make them true.

jaywalker 8 years, 11 months ago

Two LTE's, opposite sides of the coin, both poorly written (also referring to 'Unfair Attack').

No doubt BO's tack is ruffling alot of feathers as it seems to be the most sweeping national policy shift in our history. No doubt we're in a meat grinder right now and people want answers. Those that support BO on these boards overwhelmingly respond to criticism of his actions with two generalizations: 1) "Well, he HAS to do something." Or 2) "It couldn't be worse than Bush's policies that got us here".
To #1, I don't believe that's necessarily true, and even if it is, there's certainly no guarantee these actions are the correct 'something'. Just doing 'something' to do 'something' is as redundant as it sounds and not a little bit scary. This is his plan, so time will tell. I hope he (they) are right for all our sakes.
To #2, don't believe it for a second, no matter who you are. First of all, it wasn't simply W. and his policies that got us here, and secondly, of course it could be worse! Doesn't take a leap of imagination to see that.

What's going on right now is one huge political 'experiment', for lack of a better word. And everyone should be at least a little skeptical and worried when BO tells us he and the government are going to create 3.5 million jobs, re-work the entire health care industry, save the auto industry AND the housing industry, rescue or even nationalize the banks, rebuild our infrastructure, and create a new energy policy. And all this while cutting the deficit in half? I'm not sure anyone's THAT smart, are you? And is the cure for years of irresponsible spending and debt.......more spending and debt?

I'm just sayin'.......

gogoplata 8 years, 11 months ago

Big difference. Getting more money out of garage sale items and asking your boss for a raise is not immoral. Using the government to steal money from the taxpayers is immoral.

In the free market greed is good. People have the desire to make money. In a truly free market greed is balanced by risk. When you take risk out of the equation greed becomes bad. It leads to a host of bad decisions that will eventually have consequences because you can only remove risk from the equation for so long. The market will correct itself.

joshupetersen 8 years, 11 months ago

Money money money. Oi vey. Sheesh, both the republicans and democrats in this debate are so caught up in symbols that they're ignoring the true issues and situations here.

Currently, the U.S. makes enough food to feed the world multiple times over. We have the technology to have electric power without pollution (especially by combining techs for optimization). Many jobs can be completely automated reducing the required work per individual. We have the knowledge the build cheap and affordable housing that could theoretically outlast the pyramids, and an information infrastructure that allows the fastest transport and accumulation of knowledge in the history of mankind, and we know how to build devices that require no upkeep.

Yet here we are, people are struggling to keep their families fed, we're straining under an outdated 19th century educational system, we're trying to make people work more for less, instead of focusing on getting more work done with less work time but with better quality of living, fighting wars with people based on getting resources that we don't need to keep afloat megacorps we don't want.

There's a word for our current society. It's called dystopia, and it means a world where everything's being done wrong.

Forget money, we don't need it. Societies resource management can be automated and computerized and made more efficient with more reliable products so everyone could get what they need without the hassle and with a lot more freedom and less government intervention.

To put it in the words of Monty Python, it's time for something completely different.

No socialistic insanity, no government watching your every move, no corporations controlling you. Just people, being free.

By the way, there's a group working towards this. http://www.thevenusproject.com/

verity 8 years, 11 months ago

"we must depend on the government to help out in this time of need…”

"to help out", not to do everything.

"Every word from Washington shouts, “Don’t worry! We are going to take care of you.”--- from the LTE

Funny, I've been listening and reading and I have not heard or read that, so apparently it is not every word.

Obama has never promised that he or the government will do everything for us. The so-called liberals are not saying that he/the government will do everything for us.

It's only the Obama haters who are saying that. At least be factual when you post---quit setting up strawmen.

Nobody knows what is going to work, we can only do our best with what we have. For people on this forum to say with such assurance that they know what is best is beyond arrogant.

If Obama does fail---the whole world is in a bunch of hurt. It doesn't matter how much money you have under your mattress. To hope he fails is beyond stupid.

gogoplata 8 years, 11 months ago

I am not saying it is ok to cheat people. I am saying for example if I am selling a baseball bat that I bought for $5 and I decide to try and sell it for $100 that there is nothing wrong with that. Now if I try to sell it for $100 and tell people that the bat once belonged to Mickey Mantle that is cheating. As long as I don't use misrepresentation or force I don't see anything wrong with greed in the free market.

I like the Night watchmen state. How can we get that going?

Charles L. Bloss, Jr. 8 years, 11 months ago

It isn't madness that is destroying this nation, it is liberals. They have already spent so much money that our grandchildren will be paying the bill. They take an oath to support the constitution, yet they are plotting ways to subvert it. They have taken the right to own a gun from 150,000 veterans, and we are up next. Hidden within the "stimulus" package is a law which requires our health care providers to report all of our health care records to the government. Thank you, Lynn

staff04 8 years, 11 months ago

Mary Lou-

Are you on Social Security, Medicare, or just independently wealthy in your age?

Just curious--I think it would help some of us judge whether you listen to too much talk radio and assess where you are coming from with your opposition to two of the most successful social programs in our history.

staff04 8 years, 11 months ago

Lynn731, just curious as to when 150,000 veterans were adjudicated in a court of law as incompetent to own a gun. Oh, that's right, it never happened and they didn't lose their rights to own guns.

"Hidden within the “stimulus” package is a law which requires our health care providers to report all of our health care records to the government."

Actually, you have taken the bait thrown out by conservative media and made yourself look a fool. There is explicit language in the stimulus package that forbids information collected by your doctor from being shared with the government. Yes, I've read it.

staff04 8 years, 11 months ago

Tom, you again assume you know something about me and again you are wrong--not a bureacrat. I work in the private nonprofit sector. You're also wrong about the gubment accessing your health records, and I think you already know that, but it is very explicit in the legislation that the National Coordinator has NO AUTHORITY to require a physician to turn over your records

Here's the bill text, although I know you won't bother with it.


Tom, where was your outrage when the government announced that they could wiretap you and access your spending and library records? Aren't those things private too?

jumpin_catfish 8 years, 11 months ago

Sure sign that we as a people have lost our way, "its not all bad". We don't care if congress does a half ass job as long as we get something. No, hell no, give us good work congress, no excellent work or you will have to go next election cycle. US Congress, making mediocre look good.

jaywalker 8 years, 11 months ago

"US Congress, making mediocre look good."

Excellent! That's gotta be a bumper sticker, jumpin', and soon!

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