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Shooting in Douglas County sends Eudora man to hospital, suspect turns gun on himself
A Saturday night altercation in southeast Douglas County send one man to the hospital and left another man, who police believe was the shooter, dead.
July 5, 2009, 12:00 a.m. Updated July 5, 2009, 12:18 p.m.
A Saturday night altercation in southeast Douglas County sent one man to the hospital and left another man, who police believe was the shooter, dead.
Sheriff's deputies say a 34-year-old Eudora man was shot in the back at a residence in the 400 block of E 2000 Road. Lewis said a 29-year-old Ottawa man took a .410 gauge shotgun to the house and shot the Eudora man before turning the gun on himself and killing himself.
The Eudora man's injuries are not believed to be life-threatening, but he was transferred to Lawrence Memorial Hospital, said Sgt. Steve Lewis of the Douglas County Sheriff's Office.
"I don't think (it's a random act of violence)," Lewis said. "It's related to an ongoing situation at the residence."
Lewis said there were several others at the house to launch fireworks when the shooting occurred, but that the victim and the suspect were not related.
Sheriff's deputies were dispatched to the scene at 8:17 p.m. Saturday night and as of Sunday afternoon had completed most of the investigation, Lewis said.
Lewis said he could not yet release the names of those involved in the shooting.
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4 July 2009
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
uh, isn't that sorta Vinland?
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this is in the online version of the paper, no coverage of what happened on Perry st. in north lawrence, big fight one went to the hospital perhaps.
4 July 2009
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
now lpd just had a foot chase started at the Reserve, ended on 31st/2500 block.
I think the guy is caught.
4 July 2009
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applejuice (Anonymous) says…
That is the most worthless video in the history of the Internet.
5 July 2009
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Dateable_Shelter_Dude (Anonymous) says…
Hey that's great. LJW is short on awards. MWV. Does that come with a plaque or trophy?
5 July 2009
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kufanattic (Anonymous) says…
Would it be possible to not have all the negitive posts. Do you guys just sit up and wait to post your stupid thoughts? I bet you would complain if you were hung with a new rope, and the LJW would be to blame.
Try reading the paper and keeping your mouth shut, or just dont read it at all and let other people not have to put up with your negitivity.
5 July 2009
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SusieCreamcheeze (Anonymous) says…
Geeeeee thats about half a mile from my house…good thing i was in Eudora at the fireworks show.
5 July 2009
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
kufanattic~ If you're going to keep calling others negative, at least spell it right! And don't look now, but you seem to be the most negative one on this thread.
5 July 2009
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trcunning (Teresa Cunningham) says…
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5 July 2009
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vega (Anonymous) says…
definAtely the most negItive :0
5 July 2009
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
Well, if some guy is going to unload a scattergun on your a$$, a .410 is a abaout the best that you could hope for, provided you are ten or twelve yards away.
A .410, no matter how heavy the powder charge, will only throw a very small shot load and unless the shooter nails you in the face, you will probably walk away, albeit, with a lot of blood loss and a significant amount of pain.
Up close, on the other hand, a .410 might as well be a 12 gauge, so the results of a self-inflicted would from a .410 would be devastiating.
Remember that Ernest Hemingway quite effectively emptied his brain pan with a 28 gauge, which is much smaller than a .410.
And in other forensic news……………………..
5 July 2009
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cheeseburger (Anonymous) says…
The fact that this incident happened nearly 18 hours ago and is just now 'breaking news' shows just how inadequate the Journal-World's weekend reporting staffing is. Unless something happens right outside their door on the weekend, you're likely not to hear much, if anything, about it until the work week rolls around. I'm sure the excuse given would be 'budget-cutting', but it seems like it has been this way for some time.
5 July 2009
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riverdrifter (Anonymous) says…
“Remember that Ernest Hemingway quite effectively emptied his brain pan with a 28 gauge, which is much smaller than a .410.”
Nope.
28 gauge bore = .550 inch. The .410 is named for its small bore size and is not actually a gauge reference at all.
5 July 2009
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autie (Anonymous) says…
riverdrifter is correct.
Marions is wrong.
I shot a 28 gauge as a beginner. My dad always said a .410 for a kid was a dirty trick and should be for accomplished wing shooters.
5 July 2009
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
uh oh. Do all you men have seconds..and wills?
This sounds ugly.
(Hey girls, we get to wear our little cheerleading skirts and shake our pom poms, woo hoo!)
5 July 2009
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
riverdrifter (Anonymous) says…
“Remember that Ernest Hemingway quite effectively emptied his brain pan with a 28 gauge, which is much smaller than a .410.”
Nope.
28 gauge bore = .550 inch. The .410 is named for its small bore size and is not actually a gauge reference at all.”
Marion writes:
Oh, crap!
You're right!
I should have been more clear in my reference; since I do little with “modern” firearms, exclusive of so-called “assault weapons”, so when I think of 28 gauge, I refer to the original configuration; those itty-bitty little 2 1/2” shells which were originally used with a really tiny load capacity.
One of those compared to a modern 3” .410 is a big nothing!
I've got an old English shotgun chambered for 28 ga 2 1/2” and actually have a few brass cases for reloading.
Thanks for the correction but I think you see now what I was getting at!
A “first thoughts” post accompanied by poor editing!
Mea culpa!
5 July 2009
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…
Started my daughters out on a 20 gauge single shot youth model. They preferred the full size 870 Rem in 12 gauge because it didn't kick as abruptly, and more shot meant more broken clay birds.
5 July 2009
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
And by “clay birds” you mean ” big-bootied rival cheerleader hopefuls,” right?
Just kidding—and finding a way to tie in Multi's post!
5 July 2009
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
That's Warhawks to you Missy. :)
Call me Hotlips.
5 July 2009
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jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says…
Cheeseburger-
We first posted a story about this at 11 last night, less than three hours after the shooting occurred. Much like the police have to investigate, we also have to conduct interviews and reporting. We posted an update to the story at 3:15 a.m., because our overnight reporter was able to get more information. This is only our third update. So, you see, we do aggressively report news that happens far from our front door..
Jonathan Kealing
Online editor
5 July 2009
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KansasPerson (Anonymous) says…
Jonathan,
First two paragraphs say:
“A Saturday night altercation in southeast Douglas County sent one man to the hospital and left another man, who police believe was the shooter, dead.
“Sheriff's deputies say a 34-year-old Eudora man was shot in the back at a residence in the 400 block of E 2000 Road. Lewis said a 29-year-old Ottawa man took a .410 gauge shotgun to the house and shot the Eudora man before turning the gun on himself and killing himself.”
Second paragraph mentions “Lewis” — who is this? Not called by name prior to that.
Thanks in advance for clarifying, and thanks for all you do.
5 July 2009
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
“lewis” is Steve Lewis, one great guy, now spokesman for DGSO.
in earlier incarnations of this story, it had ref to him and his job above…lost in editing.
Cheeseburger, look at the time stamps On my first two posts under this. no, there wasn't much detail then.
and, isn't this location actually in Vinland township? or, if not, what township is that out there?
now that the article has more detail:
*I'm glad the shooting victim is alive! hope he heals quickly.
thanks Jonathan.
5 July 2009
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igby (Anonymous) says…
410 is a powerful load. Small number of shoots, however, the barrels small and long like a rifle and full choke. All 410's have 3 inch chambers for magnum 3 in. loads.
It makes a great goose gun with number 2 buck shot.
But with a deer slug it's just as powerful than a 50 cal. flintlock.
5 July 2009
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…
igby - hope you are a better shooter than writer
:-p
5 July 2009
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ChasL (Anonymous) says…
Igby, the amount of misinformation in your post above is unbelievable!!
A .410 shotgun is not barreled any longer than other gauged shotguns.
It is the least powerful of all shotgun gauges currently produced.
They can be choked anywhere from open cylinder to turkey.
.410's are also chambered in 2.5” shells.
They are a great goose wounders. Payload is too small for consistent hits to the vitals and buckshot is lead……..illegal to use on waterfowl.
Can't use a .410 slug gun during muzzleloader season so whats the use in comparing them. I'd take a rifled .50 over a smoothbore .410 slug gun any day.
5 July 2009
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…
kufanattic I already went though all of this a few months back. Take my advice and just go with the flow. What you're doing is just pouring gasoline on the fire.
Now that Roe and I are pals, I ain't no little cheerleader any more, I 'm gonna get me an over and under Mossberg.
I can shoot as good as I can write. Don't know how to think you, Roe.
Ha, ha, deal with that! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, etc. etc.
5 July 2009
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
I can shoot as good as I can write. Don't know how to think you, Roe.
Ha, ha, deal with that! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, etc. etc.
–be afraid. be very afraid!
“I can shoot as good as I can write. Don't know how to think you, Roe”
did you teach her to shoot Roe? and no, she don't know how to think.
5 July 2009
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classclown (Anonymous) says…
“The Eudora man's injuries are not believed to be life-threatening, but he was transferred to Lawrence Memorial Hospital, said Sgt. Steve Lewis of the Douglas County Sheriff's Office.”
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Shouldn't that say “The Eudora man's injuries are not believed to be life-threatening, SO he was transferred to Lawrence Memorial Hospital, said Sgt. Steve Lewis of the Douglas County Sheriff's Office.”?
5 July 2009
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nlf78 (Anonymous) says…
Does anyone know what happened on Perry St??
5 July 2009
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lmn (Anonymous) says…
We're all in great danger if Irish shoots as well as she writes.
5 July 2009
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NicoleLeanne (Anonymous) says…
this was at my house.
5 July 2009
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NicoleLeanne (Anonymous) says…
The Eudora Man is ok. he was released from the hospital last night
5 July 2009
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smiley__25 (Anonymous) says…
The eudora man is a good friend of mine. I would just like to say you guy's think a .410 couldn't do much damage but I saw first hand it does enough. And its not right for you all to downplay the situation.
5 July 2009
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NicoleLeanne (Anonymous) says…
Smiley-His Girlfriend is actually living at my house right now, where it happened.
everyone, this is real. you obviously don't know what really happened.
5 July 2009
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SusieCreamcheeze (Anonymous) says…
I am more confused than any of you. First there is no 400 block of 2000 rd….we are in Palmayra township…I think I know where the house is but there is no sign of a shooting at all. So Leanne is my neighbor? What happened to the nice family with the kids that was living there? Who are you people and what are you doing living near me?
5 July 2009
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SyncMaster (Anonymous) says…
When is someone going to post names of the men?
5 July 2009
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…
NLF,
big crowd reported, fight, possibly one transported by ambulance…no details in ljworld. of course, you know, Perry st. is in north lawrence. [hope it isn't that reason why Perry st. went unreported.]
all the details I have NLF.
5 July 2009
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NicoleLeanne (Anonymous) says…
the address is 499 E 2000th. we're the same family that has lived there for 3 almost 4 years. i'm not going to say too much but i will say just recently we took in one of my mom's friends and her children. she was getting divorced from the shooter. he didn't know where she was but some how he found us. this wasnt supposed to happen, because he wasnt supposed to know where she was. he was a violent man. i dont feel comfortable releasing the names at this time either.
6 July 2009
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NicoleLeanne (Anonymous) says…
this is in vinland
6 July 2009
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river_rat (Anonymous) says…
the perry st incident was a bunch of ladies drunkin fightin was in front of my trailer no ambulance but quite a bit of blood. happy 4th eh
6 July 2009
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countrygirl (Anonymous) says…
All I'm going to say is that the guy who got shot did a very brave thing. I'm proud to say I know him. Take care and heal fast.
6 July 2009
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redneck (Anonymous) says…
I wish you guys wouldn't make a joke out of this. This is a very serous matter, and I'm sure you wouldn't make a joke out of this if it involved somebody you cared for. I am very sorry for everybody involved, and thy guy who was shot is a very brave man. I hope everybody can get back to their lives and this incident doesn't keep that from happening. As far as I'm concerned, domestic violence shouldn't be treated any different from terrorism. It's the same thing, but only on a smaller scale. I hope everybody will keep in mind, that the shooter is the one who chose to turn this unpleasant situation into a deadly situation. I'm sure there was nothing else anybody could have done to prevent this from happening.
8 July 2009
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linda143john (Anonymous) says…
To NicoleLeanne, I do not know you and I was not there but I do know the parties involved and the shooter was NOT a violent person, if you believe he was, then you apparently did not know him. He loved his wife and children more than even they will probably ever understand in their lifetime, that is what drove him to the choice he made at that very brief moment when everything happened so fast and without thought. Had he been thinking clearly he would never have done this and he certainly would never have done it with his children at the residence. Please don't judge people by the last act that you believe they commit on this earth, it is not your job or mine. He was a very sensitive person who was full of pain not violence and the pain his death has brought his family and friends has brought life to the families that will receive transplants as a result of his death, that is the final act in this young man's life. May God and his children forgive him.