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Letters to the Editor

By Daniel Patrick Schamle

July 3, 2009

To the editor:

While I do not “pride” myself on self-deception, honesty demands I admit to a high level of expertise in this area, (and to sincere efforts to address it). Hence I can understand the fear, or reluctance of many Americans to acknowledge the terrible harm done to our country under the criminal Bush Administration.

Last week, another high official in then-Prime Minister Blair’s inner circle admitted that Bush and Blair knew three months before the invasion that they would find no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. These two leaders then discussed how they could sell a war to the British and U.S. people. (http://www.leadingtowar.com/claims_facts.php).

On June 27, a conference was held at the National Press Club and aired on C-Span titled “Justice Department Prosecutorial Misconduct.” Speaker after distinguished speaker told about the politicization of the Bush Justice Department. It was shown how, nationwide, Democrats were targeted for fictitious crimes. Republicans were either not investigated for possible criminal behavior, or were slapped on the wrist.

A cancer has grown upon our body politic, upon our highest ideals over the last eight years. If we act as if nothing has happened (when the evidence screams that heinous crimes where committed against the very soul of this country), we risk becoming a country, an empire, such as what we revolted against 233 years ago. Investigate, investigate, investigate, and where crimes have been committed, prosecute, prosecute, prosecute!

Schamle is from Lawrence

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3 July 2009
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igby (Anonymous) says…

Just because you don't agree with the Bush plan or “Obama plans”, does not mean that it was a crime. Besides, the state department now is already involved in treasonable activities that should be investigated. Obama is no different than Bush, and they both are using the system to obtain the limits.

In four years, Obama and Hillary will be history and another will be in office. Bush might be his name. But you can bet, that Americans will of had enough of Obama and Hillary by then.
3 July 2009
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Liberty_One (Anonymous) says…

I don't know why Bush apologists won't acknowledge his misdeeds, but the are well known and numerous. Regardless, there will not be any serious investigation into them because the current powers that be plan on (and currently are) committing the same exact misdeeds of the Bush administration. There's not much difference between those two parties.
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

Since the Nixon Watergate scandal the repub party has a firm pattern of criminal activity as if is in the gene pool:

The repub/neoconservative/PNAC party is largest law breaker in our nations history!

Isn't it odd each time our nations financial institutions crumble there are Bush family near by and a McCain still in office?

Who has history with financial institutions going south such as the savings and loan scandal? Republicans!
http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com…

Ways to keep wars alive and well then justify USA military action:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0…
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/4…

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five. The story of “the Keating Five” has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate …
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1989-1…

CRIME: Who hosted the Iran Contra secret illegal sale of weapons? Republicans!
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publ…
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/p…

CRIME: Who brought the nation Iran Contra number 2? Republicans!
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/5/…

CRIME: Which party illegally spied on the democrats to win an election? Republicans! Watergate!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/…

CRIME: Which party held secret energy meetings and refused our elected officials its' content and who attended? GW Bush and the republicans!

CRIME: Which party lied to congress and the world,went against military advice and created the worst strategic blunder in the history of the USA aka Iraq War? Republican Party! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10348418/

Which party has held secret oil deals with Saudi Arabia?
Republicans!
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/4/20…

CRIME: Secret Oil deals for Iraq Oil- Republicans!
http://www.pubrecord.org/nationworld/…

crime against democracy : pnac's policy document, “Rebuilding America's Defences,” openly advocates for total global military domination. Many PNAC members hold highest-level positions in the George W. Bush administration. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?…

Why is Obama expanding the war is a good question considering that is not what the nation voted for. I say Bob Gates and Hillary might be good points to start.
3 July 2009
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

Donald Rumsfeld and Bob Gates had no history of being peace folks not by a long shot. Folks should always go back and read about Watergate and Iran Contra. The CIA is one nasty group of people in which Gates spent 26 years. Rumsfeld eagerly lying about Iraq weapons stinks.

Bob Gates Level of involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal

Because of his senior status in the CIA, Gates was close to many figures who played significant roles in the Iran-Contra Affair and was in a position to have known of their activities. In 1984, as deputy director of CIA, Gates advocated that the U.S. initiate a bombing campaign against Nicaragua and that the U.S. do everything in its power short of direct military invasion of the country to remove the Sandinista government.[16] The evidence developed by Independent Counsel did not warrant indictment of Gates for his Iran-Contra activities or his responses to official inquiries.

Gates was an early subject of Independent Counsel's investigation, but the investigation of Gates intensified in the spring of 1991 as part of a larger inquiry into the Iran/contra activities of CIA officials. This investigation received an additional impetus in May 1991, when President George H.W. Bush nominated Gates to be Director of Central Intelligence (DCI). The chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) requested, in a letter to the Independent Counsel on May 15, 1991, any information that would “significantly bear on the fitness” of Gates for the CIA post.

Gates consistently testified that he first heard on October 1, 1986, from Charles E. Allen, the national intelligence officer who was closest to the Iran initiative, that proceeds from the Iran arms sales may have been diverted to support the Contras.

Other evidence proves, however, that Gates received a report on the diversion during the summer of 1986 from DDI Richard Kerr.

The issue was whether the Independent Counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Gates was deliberately not telling the truth when he later claimed not to have remembered any reference to the diversion before meeting with Allen in October.

AS director of central intelligence and 26 years in the CIA Gates did not know? CIA are trained liars.
3 July 2009
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

CRIME: Who hosted the Iran Contra secret illegal sale of weapons? Republicans!
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publ…
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/p…

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0…

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/4…
3 July 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…

Obama will never be able to fix all of the republican wrongs merrill. It's totally unattainable. What is mankind going to do? Republicans have stimulus progressive mankind back to pre-colonial times like it used to be in Kenya.
3 July 2009
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

barrypenders (Anonymous) says…
“Republicans have stimulus progressive mankind back to pre-colonial times like it used to be in Kenya.”

Seriously, wtf?

3 July 2009
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

“Just because you don't agree with the Bush plan or “Obama plans”, does not mean that it was a crime.”

True enough— but just because someone chooses to be willfully ignorant of BushCo (or Obama) crimes doesn't mean they aren't crimes.
3 July 2009
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Pilgrim2 (Anonymous) says…

While I do not “pride” myself on self-deception, honesty demands I admit to a high level of expertise in this area,
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Which area is that, Danny. Fear or criminal activity?
3 July 2009
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3 July 2009
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3 July 2009
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…

merrill strikes again.
And barrypenders ??? I'm on the internet, watching TV in my air conditioned home drinking coffee from my high tech coffee maker. Yes we pre-colonials have it so tough.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Seriously DPS? Are you still stuck on the BDS? I think more worrisome is the Banana Republic of the United States. Starting next year, I hear ObamaCo wants to rename July 4th: Dependence Day. I think you need to concern yourself with OBamaCo's concerted agenda to break America's back and force more people than ever to say, “Oh god, federal gov't, please save me”!!

Get off the Bush kick–nothing to see here. Again, ObamaCo? Lots and lots to see and be very, very concerned about. The tide of public opinion is shifting rapidly and even NBC and some of the in-the-tank media is starting to “wake up” to this fraudulent and radical administration. Obama is a pop star, not a president–-the American public is realizing this. It's people like you DPS that contributed to a BDS fueled hysteria that rendered election results like we have now. Please stop!
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Pilgrim, I think what DPS is saying is he has been deeply immersed in the far-left blogosphere for I'm guessing somewhere upwards of 8 years now–if not longer. Again as I've said before though, the illustrious Howard Dean's contribution to the far-left blogosphere was around '03 and that is when those like DPS became off-the-charts irrational and the corrupt mainstream media, like namely NBC, saw an opportunity to jump their popularity wagon, fueled by Bush Derangement Syndrome and started reporting from a far-left blogosphere outlined format. George Soros' little soldiers are committed, that is for sure.
3 July 2009
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…

“If we act as if nothing has happened (when the evidence screams that heinous crimes where committed against the very soul of this country), we risk becoming a country, an empire, such as what we revolted against 233 years ago.”

We are there, my friend. The corporate media saw to that 10-15 years ago. But God bless those patriots who rage against the machine.

3 July 2009
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…

George Soros is the antichrist….well probably not but he has a very socialist agenda except for himself, he's one of the “elite”. These lefties scare the hell out of me for the future of our country. I think we are in deeeeeep dukey folks. Can't wait to list Obama's crimes after his term if he ever leaves office. He may declare himself king of america.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Yeah, with this shockingly outrageous administration, Pelosi and Reid taking us down the drain at a startling pace, people are quickly forgetting about W, and are getting kinda freaked out with what's going on. Obama's honeymoon is definitely over. I could see him this time next year being certified *THE* worst president ever in the history of the US. There needs to be a drive in the works now, a petition so to speak, to change the law to be able to recall a president. I think it will get this bad, maybe worse than we can even fathom. Sad, sad days ahead.
3 July 2009
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

“I could see him this time next year being certified *THE* worst president ever in the history of the US.”

Given the performance of his immediate predecessor, I think that title is out of reach.

“There needs to be a drive in the works now, a petition so to speak, to change the law to be able to recall a president.”

There is a mechanism for removing the president, and it's called impeachment. There was never a more appropriate time for Congress to take that action than with Bush and Cheney. But, unfortunately, the Incumbent Party, both Republican and Democratic branches, will likely never allow that action to be taken again.
3 July 2009
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kugrad (Anonymous) says…

Bush and Cheney's alleged crimes should be thoroughly investigated and they should be tried if violations are found. They should have been impeached. I know it is easy to dismiss impeachment as a) only politically motivated and b) looking backwards and not forwards, but those views don't stand scrutiny. Impeachment is the method by which future abuses are curbed. It is the check and balance against excessive executive power and/or the abuse of that power. It is necessary for a healthy government.
There is an almost surreal absurdity to justifying the persecution and impeachment Bill Clinton for lying about infidelity (which had nothing to do with governance and was purely a political)exercise) while arguing that a investigating Bush/Cheney would be only political despite their lying to Congress, the Unitied Nations, and the American people and the clear connection of their acts to their jobs. Clinton's impeachment was personal. The investigation of Bush and Cheney would benefit our country, not harm it. It is the duty of our government to take this hard look at those at the top.
We might have avoided the whole disaster that was the Bush/Cheney years if Bush Sr. and Reagan's roles in the Iran-Contra affair had been investigated instead of pushed under the rug as “harmful to America” and so forth. Yes they had hearings, but behind closed doors the Democrats caved
on actually investigating the popular president (it is safe to say now that the majority view is that they were totally involved and informed). Now, we are setting the stage for another disaster by failing to hold our leaders accountable. This can't be reduced to simple liberal vs conservative, as the simple-minded would like, this is how a healthy government is maintained.
Bush and Cheney should be investigated, not only for there misconduct surrounding the war, but for their political firings of US Attorneys, Cheney's role in the Plame affair, and more.
3 July 2009
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canyon_wren (Anonymous) says…

merrill—you are exhausting! Do you have anything else going on in your life besides browsing on your computer? I can't imagine that anyone would bother to check out your “overkill,” regardless of how valuable it might be. Too bad, as I am sure there IS some good info there.

Do any of you posters out there go to the trouble of following up on his posts?
3 July 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…

With all this banging on Bush, I'm beginning to think that progressive stimulus without Bush would make them feel gruff for more Bush smashing.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

bozo, if we get an (R) congress back, I could see impeachment, not before though. I think some Dems would vote to impeach, but only a few of the sane ones. I'd honestly be happy to see Pelosi and Reid and a few other Dems in congress go for now.
3 July 2009
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notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…

merrill-bot (Automoton) says…

“CRIME: Which party held secret energy meetings …”

Gee, merrill-bot, who was that?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31373407/

Oh, and while you're mindlessly pasting away, which party did the president who had to surrender his license to practice law after admitting he “knowingly gave misleading testimony” belong to?

Pretty selective memory there, moron.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

“Given the performance of his immediate predecessor, I think that title is out of reach.”

Mostly because herr klowne is out of touch.

Obama has continued (or expanded) almost everything the loons on the left whined about for 8 years, but now suddenly it's enlightened leadership. Oh, sorry, boohoozo, forgot the Democratic mantra:

“But … but … that's *different*.”

3 July 2009
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GardenMomma (Anonymous) says…

Thank you Canyon Wren! Exhausting is a good word. Information overload. I never follow Merrill's links as it appears the entire content of said link is cut and pasted.
3 July 2009
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gl0ck0wn3r (Anonymous) says…

That's some vintage Hecklerbot.
3 July 2009
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ErnestBarteldes (Ernest Barteldes) says…

Yep, the Republican party “sells” itself as a pro-business, anti-tax party, but when they come into office, they wreak so much havoc that it takes years to clean up. But big business likes that, and they fund the Republican candidates, because that way they can be part of the destruction of our society as we know it – see all the deregulation in Wall Street as an example. Those venerable institutions are not to be trusted. They don't just need to be regulated. They need to be bound and gagged.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

canyon wren, no, I scroll right past them. I really think 'merrill' is an LJW installed software that is triggered to post whenever it detects the word *healthcare*.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

…..among other words, like Bush, war, the T, growth etc etc
3 July 2009
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Pilgrim2 (Anonymous) says…

canyon_wren (Anonymous) says…

merrill—you are exhausting! Do you have anything else going on in your life besides browsing on your computer?
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Not when it rains and he can't get on his lawn mower.
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Do any of you posters out there go to the trouble of following up on his posts?
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To what end? Check out a couple of the links. They are ages old. And he never changes anything. Richard has this archive of cut-n-paste looney left rants, and he just recycles and recycles and recycles and recycles ad nauseum. He hasn't posted anything original in so long no one can remember the last time it happened.
3 July 2009
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

barrypenders (Anonymous) says…
“With all this banging on Bush, I'm beginning to think that progressive stimulus without Bush would make them feel gruff for more Bush smashing.”

Again, wtf are you saying?
3 July 2009
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says…
“bozo, if we get an (R) congress back, I could see impeachment, not before though.”

And what are the charges?

3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Corey, war crimes thus far, and ACORN and GE, when these scandals are cracked WFO. How many civilians have been killed now in Paki/Afghan from US bombing raids? The far-left loons would be screaming from every mountain top if a Republican had been Commander in Chief over this. By the end of next year; early 2011, there likely will be a mountain of evidence, not to mention usurping of power, gross incompetence and malfeasance against American citizens.
3 July 2009
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

War crimes? Did he invade a sovereign nation on trumped up charges? How many on the right dismissed any civilian deaths in Iraq or Afghanistan prior to Obama? Why is there now renewed interest in civilian deaths by conservatives?

Unless there has been new evidence unearthed, then ACORN is a dead issue. Please share with me any evidence that has not already been dismissed.

GE? Halliburton? Tell me the difference.

Come on, Tom. You could do better than that if you tried. Oh, wait. You did.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Time'll tell Corey, time'll tell. I wouldn't bet too much on Obama in 18-24 months from now.
3 July 2009
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

I don't bet on presidents anymore. I lost in 00 and again in 04.

In the words of GWB, “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
3 July 2009
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

Tom, Obama will be president for at least 3 &1/2 more and probably 7 & 1/2 more years. Then there will probably be a Democratic president for at least 8 more years. It will take that long for the Republican party to totally destroy itself and attempt a comeback.
3 July 2009
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Daniel Patrick Schmale is an interesting sort and you can all find out just how interesting by taking a look at his MySpace page, which may be found here:

http://www.myspace.com/danielpatricks…

Daniel Patrick Schmale's “About Me” on MySpace:

” Daniel Patrick's Blurbs

About me:
My ideal would be that “I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam,” (big fan of the wise philosopher Popeye). I like to think I am the father of a local fundraising event in my hometown. This would be the prestigious Chicken-Chucking Championships where contestants use a catapult to chuck rubber-chickens for distance and accuracy. There's something inherantly funny about a rubber chicken in flight don't you agree? If you want to enter the event contact me. Have great hopes that with a little tweaking here and there our trebuchet catapult can take all comers (or not). *grins* I am a recovering addict with over 9 years clean. Did the Narcotic Anonymous thing for 6 years but tired of defining myself ONLY as a recoveing addict. I DO have great respect and gratitude for the wise women and men in those rooms who guided and taught me a better way. I am VERY spiritual and continue to seek new knowledge and teachings. I am grateful for the path I am currently on of healing my sexuality with a Tantrika (a teacher of sacred sexuality). She is a wise, beautiful woman and truly a blessing in my life.”

Marion writes:

A quick Google search also tells us that Schmale is a signer of the “Justice For 9/11” petition; a petition being put together by people who believe that the 911 events were perpetrated by the US government,

(http://www.justicefor911.org/)

One of Schmale's “Friends” on MySpace is this one:

http://www.myspace.com/100daughters

Marion further writes:

I leave it to you to evaluate Mr. Schmale's credibility.
3 July 2009
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notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…

beobachter (Anonymous) says…

“Tom, Obama will be president for at least 3 &1/2 more and probably 7 & 1/2 more years. Then there will probably be a Democratic president for at least 8 more years.”

Someone, as usual, hasn't been looking at the polls.

Don't blame you, BeO. From your prespective, they must be pretty darned depressing.

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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

“Did he invade a sovereign nation on trumped up charges?”

The defendent's table is going to be pretty big, what with all the co-conspirators.

Or don't you think all the Democrats who authorized the 'invasion' after seeing the same intelligence should stand charges, too? Let me guess - “That's different.”

“I don't bet on presidents anymore. I lost in 00 and again in 04.”

At least someone won. We all lost in '08.
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Guardian (Anonymous) says…

I have to say that Rush was right. When the Left is in charge—all the loonies come out. This LTE is a case in point.

3 July 2009
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…
Or don't you think all the Democrats who authorized the 'invasion' after seeing the same intelligence should stand charges, too? Let me guess - “That's different.”

Thanks for putting those words in my mouth nota. Once again, you prove the level of your intelligence by assuming what my response would be. You know when you assume you make an ass out of you, but not me.

“At least someone won. We all lost in '08.”

notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…
Blah blah blah. Blah, blah blah.
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mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

Guardian (Anonymous) says…
“I have to say that Rush was right.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…

Palin resigning. Wonder what she's been caught doing?
3 July 2009
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porch_person (Anonymous) says…

The letter to the editor refers to the infamous “Downing Street Memos”, for those of you playing the home game.

Sorry to break it to you guys but the United States has been a very bad boy for the past eight years.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

If what beoB said at 2 pm is true, there is more need to even discuss any of this. Just live the rest of your 15-20 (age not a factor) years out the best you possibly can.
3 July 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

I meant to say 'no more need to even discuss any of this.'
3 July 2009
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Guardian (Anonymous) says…

“mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

Guardian (Anonymous) says…
“I have to say that Rush was right.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

Is rehashing old news the best you can do? Sad! Very, very sad! At least he admitted to his problem. Unlike others I could name. But that would be bringing up old news, wouldn't it Monica.
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notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…

mancityfooty (Corey Williams) says…

“notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…
Blah blah blah. Blah, blah blah.”

Well, that was actually in quotes - it was what I was replying to, footie.

4 July 2009
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edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…

This is why I am a moderate independent. Tired of old two party politics that have all of the power and where one always blames the other. Its too bad that we can't change our system to be more democratic so multiple political parties can have an influence.
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75x55 (Anonymous) says…

“Which area is that, Danny. Fear or criminal activity?”

No, Pilgrim - as a regular reader of IWW/International Answer websites…
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Pilgrim2 (Anonymous) says…

75x55 (Anonymous) says…

“Which area is that, Danny. Fear or criminal activity?”

No, Pilgrim - as a regular reader of IWW/International Answer websites…
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I took that as a given, so my question stands.
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gsandell (Anonymous) says…

scott3460 (Anonymous) says…

Palin resigning. Wonder what she's been caught doing?
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Did you say the same thing about Kathleen S. when she resigned Scott?
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StephanieD123 (Anonymous) says…

Wow! you just realized a politician lied!!! LOL! How do you think any of them become president. It wasn't because they were honest!!! LOL!
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vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says…

LOL politicians lie LOL

*abridged version of the post above me