Archive for Wednesday, February 18, 2009

Traffic signals installed in front of arts center

February 18, 2009

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Folks heading to and from the Lawrence Arts Center soon will be able to stop traffic with the push of a button.

Crews are installing new pedestrian-activated signals for the New Hampshire Street crosswalk between the city parking garage and the arts center, 940 N.H.

Support poles went up Tuesday, and signals should be operational within two weeks, said David Woosley, the city’s traffic engineer. Lawrence city commissioners approved the work — and its estimated $35,000 price tag — back in July.

The overhead signals will be similar to those at a crossing on 11th Street, midway between New York and New Jersey streets. The signals go red at the press of a button, then turn to flashing red — the signal version of a stop sign — soon after pedestrians start to cross.

That way, Woosley said, stopped vehicles will be able to proceed once pedestrians have passed, instead of waiting for the light to turn green.

“It helps save a little bit of time,” Woosley said.

Comments

lionheart72661 6 years, 2 months ago

O.K. correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't it not too long ago that our city leaders were worried about our city budget? Yet we spend $35,000 dollars on a needless signal. where did this money come from? We go to the Arts center several times a week at different times of the day and early evening and have never had an incident with traffic. drivers along that street in front of the arts center are very alert to pedestrian traffic. I think $35,000 could have been better spent elsewhere like say for instance set aside for the winter to pay to have snow removed on city owned sidewalks instead of fining home owners that may not be able to get out and shovel snow.

Richard Heckler 6 years, 2 months ago

Repairing old east side sidewalks would be excellent use of stimulus money that would provide local jobs for city workers . City workers on a project such as this would likely provide taxpayers a better bang for their tax bucks. Bring some laid off folks back to work.

Senior citizens,wheel chair travelers and parents of walking or cycling children no doubt would appreciate such generosity.

Which sidewalks: East 19th from Haskell to Louisiana East 13th from Haskell to Campus East 11th from Delaware to Campus( 11th and New Jersey is the perfect sidewalk design - 1100 New Jersey) Mass Street from 23rd to 13th 9th street from Mississippi to Iowa East 7th from New Jersey to Rhode Island Kentucky 19th to 6th Tenn from 19th to 6th street Connecticut from 15th to 7th Street

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somebodynew 6 years, 2 months ago

And gee - I remember not too long ago (OK maybe longer than I care to admit) there were lights on Mass. St. mid-block to bring attention to the crosswalks. They were taken OUT because they were ineffective and the Yield signs were "safer". Hmmmmm

Flap Doodle 6 years, 2 months ago

Doing some recycling this morning, merrill?

Sigmund 6 years, 2 months ago

merrill (Anonymous) says… "Repairing old east side sidewalks would be excellent use of stimulus money that would provide local jobs for city workers ."

Gee I wonder whose East Lawrence property has sidewalks that are dangerously in disrepair?

Raider 6 years, 2 months ago

This is just a case of another special interest (the Art Center) pitching a loud enough bitch and getting what they want. There is absolutely no need for a stop light in the middle of NH street. There's already a huge speed bump along with a giant yield sign. People already slow down and watch for pedestrians there. What a waste of our taxpayer dollars.

Way to go CC!! Looks like you're already spending those stimulus dollars. What's the old saying about counting chickens?

Bob_Keeshan 6 years, 2 months ago

As a parent who crossed New Hampshire with a 3 year old on a regular basis to get to the art center, I can tell you people most certainly do not slow down for that crosswalk.

I have had to pull my child in a full sprint to cross that street because a motorist was in too much of a hurry to stop for an occupied crosswalk.

You need to realize this isn't about a bunch of hippies and no good liberals using the Arts Center. It is about their successful pre-K programs and protecting parents and their slow moving young children.

Chris Ogle 6 years, 2 months ago

Stop funding for crossing guards, then spend 35k on something like this. Lawrence really is special...

CLARKKENT 6 years, 2 months ago

JUST ANOTHER REASON TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO UPCOMING ELECTION. GET RID OF ALL THE OLD AND TRY SOME NEW.

THE CROSSWALK IN FRONT OF LJW SEEMS TO WORK FINE, THIS COULD BE DONE THE SAME WAY, AND WORK.

THIS JUST FURTHER SHOWS CITY GOVERNMENT OUT OF CONTROL

ReneLang 6 years, 2 months ago

Bob_Keeshan, next time you're crossing with your 3-year-old and you feel the traffic is heavier than normal, maybe try picking your child up and carrying him across.

This pedestrian signal is a waste, parents just need to be responsible and smart.

Paul Geisler 6 years, 2 months ago

What's wrong with you people??? I fully believe that the added safety for children and adults alike walking between the parking ramp and the Arts Center is well worth every penny of the $35K that was spent on this!!! I have seen people start to walk across there only to retreat back to the curb because of cars going way faster than 20 mph, even with the over-sized speed-bump! I'm sure glad you crabby pants-people aren't in control of the city's budget!

Chris Ogle 6 years, 2 months ago

magnus- sure wish someone would be in control of the city budget.

zettapixel 6 years, 2 months ago

ReneLang: What crawled up your arse and died? I've got a 4 year old that goes to pre-school at the Art Center and totally agree with Bob. Some people won't slow down or yield for parents and kids crossing at the crosswalk. Picking up your child and crossing will do you no good when a 2 ton pickup truck is headed towards you at 30+ mph.

ReneLang 6 years, 2 months ago

Zettapixel, maybe wait for the 2 ton pickup to pass? It's not the busiest street in Lawrence and already has a yield sign and speed bump.

ReneLang 6 years, 2 months ago

Zettapixel, maybe wait for the 2 ton pickup to pass? It's not the busiest street in Lawrence and already has a yield sign and speed bump. I agree that drivers need to slow down when near there.

Raider 6 years, 2 months ago

Bob and Zetta: try using a little common sense. If you see a vehicle coming, DON"T WALK ACROSS THE STREET! use your head. That's not a very wide section of the street. Jeez people. The stop sign at 10th St isn't that far away. You can tell if a car is coming, and whether or not you will have time to get across the street. 9th St is even further away and you should really have time to decide.

A 435k light is not the answer, but unfortunately there are too many whinny-a$$es in this town that throw a fit anytime they are inconvenienced or get their feeligns hurt.

Common sense goes a long way people!

ReneLang 6 years, 2 months ago

If its a concern to the arts center or the parents then they should come up with a way to fund it. Maybe increase fees or dues. There are more important things for the city to be spending money on.

Bob_Keeshan 6 years, 2 months ago

Raider and Rene - are you serious? If you see a car coming don't cross?

Why is there even a crosswalk then?

AndreaWho 6 years, 2 months ago

This is long overdue. Ask any parent who has ever tried to get one or more children across this exact street crossing quickly and we'll all tell you, some days it feels like an impossible enterprise. Forget it if you have a stroller and or baby carrier (those things weigh a ton).

Great idea to pick your kid up and carry him/her (from the above poster), but what about grandparents and/or disabled parents? In my experience, this crossing ALWAYS causes everyone involved the max amt. of anxiety.

Spending 35k to keep kids safe is a no-brainer I'm sure we can ALL agree on.

Sigmund 6 years, 2 months ago

Candide (Anonymous) says… "this town has way too many damn cars. you guys are really bad drivers. get a fuqqing bike, lawrence isn't that big."

You don't care about this story, you just like to argue.

Bob_Keeshan 6 years, 2 months ago

"Also, the 'cut-thru' traffic coming from wakarusa through harvard to congressional is really my issue. This stupid light is allowing people to avert the traffic control system, allowing heavy traffic down residential streets and NOT channeling it towards 6th & wakarusa"

I can vouch for this. I no longer use 6th and Wak, I use the Congressional light to access westbound 6th Street. It has rendered the 6th and Wak light moot.

OzChicklet 6 years, 2 months ago

I attend the Art Center regularly and I do not have children. Many times folks are too self-centered and in a hurry with their cars, and don't care about people in the crosswalk. If they DID care about their fellow human beings, this probably would never have become an issue, and the need for a traffic signal would not be necessary. FREQUENTLY, I have had to stop in the middle of the crosswalk, for some moron in their car that just keeps going thinking they can beat me through the intersection.

Is a traffic signal cheaper than paying salaries for cross walk personnel? The answer is yes, because the signal is a one time expense (not including maintenance costs)

MeAndFannieLou 6 years, 2 months ago

Somebodynew got it right! The walk lights were pulled from Mass. street because they gave pedestrians a "false sense of security" and were therefore less safe. Of course, no one could ever answer me why the walk light between the pool and the library was allowed to remain, given how "unsafe" those things are....

ReneLang 6 years, 2 months ago

BobKeeshan, just because there's a crosswalk doesn't mean you shouldn't look out for traffic. Seriously, how are you still alive?

lionheart72661 6 years, 2 months ago

ok I submitted the first comment and read the rest. So here is the only proper solution... TAKE OUT THE CROSSWALK AND WALK TO ONE OF THE CORNERS AND CROSS...... much much safer and cose effective and besides in this microwave age we all could use the extra little walk to burn off a few calories. Kids these days don't get that much exercise anyway. I know i'll get a lot of negative feedback on this one but what the heck. we live in a college town where intellect overshadows good ol' common sense..

bearded_gnome 6 years, 2 months ago

lionheart72661 (Anonymous) says…

ok I submitted the first comment and read the rest. So here is the only proper solution… take out the crosswalk and walk to one of the corners and cross…… much much safer and cose effective and besides in this microwave age we all could use the extra little walk to burn off a few calories. Kids these days don't get that much exercise anyway. I know i'll get a lot of negative feedback on this one but what the heck. we live in a college town where intellect overshadows good ol' common sense..


I am shocked! somebody dared to suggest that the Arts Center people walk down to the corner to cross at the stop sign!!!!

OMG, soon, Lionheart will be telling us that smoking is bad for our health, or that cows don't give pasturized chocolate milk!

in other words, I agree with Lionheart: no signal, no crossy at lighty, walky to stopy signy!

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