Archive for Sunday, August 30, 2009

Money to burn

August 30, 2009


To the editor:

Four days last week, I drove by Lawrence High School and noticed that the athletic field lights on the new football field were on full bright in the middle of the day. I don’t really know, but I’d guess it might be 50,000 watts being used. Three days, there were only construction workers around; on the other day, the school band was practicing. Still, I’m a lot older than they are, and I wouldn’t have any trouble walking around or reading my sheet music in mid-afternoon without the field lights.

This sends a wonderful educational message to our youth that it’s fine to waste resources and that whatever goes on out there is a lot more important than what is going on inside the classroom. It gets attention for the unfinished mega-complex. Nearby, the conversion of what used to be green space for children at Centennial School into more developed facilities for high school athletics shows other community priorities.

Certainly, it’s better to have that electricity lighting up the sky than to have it be wasted on classroom supplies or teacher salaries. This is the meaning of the phase “money to burn.”

Your tax dollars at work.


mom_of_three 8 years, 4 months ago

Maybe they were testing the lights, or the sound system, and needed them on. Did you call to ask before you wrote the letter??

Ken Lassman 8 years, 4 months ago

Attention JW reporters: why don't you check out the commitment of USD 497 to energy efficiency? When they built the new South Junior High, why didn't they build it to LEED standards of energy efficiency and sustainability, like other school districts all across the country whenever they are building a new school? The same goes for new sports facilities: they can be built using energy efficient lighting that would pay for themselves due to the 20% energy savings over conventional lighting.

And then you could turn your attention to KU: what exactly has the Sustainability Institute accomplished in terms of getting any new construction meeting LEED standards? You might wonder about stadium improvements--seems like all they do is INCREASE energy and water consumption. I remember during a football stadium upgrade a few years back, the downtown traffic flow was disrupted for months due to the need for a new sewer upgrade to handle all of the increased water flow from the new stadium toilets. And in case you were wondering, yes, you can meet LEED standards with your baseball and football stadiums, too--check out the ones at Penn State and North Texas as a couple of examples.

Lets hold these folks feet to the fire until they make a real commitment to energy efficiency! What a great opportunity to teach students and change lifestyles for the better, no?

KULHSLIONSfan 8 years, 4 months ago

Adrian continues to be one of the top complainers in the city, and the neighborhood. The lights are being "burned". It is required. A few in the neighborhood have complained when the "burn in" was later in the day. The later time for the "burn" also allowed for construction to continue. A few in your neighborhood complained about the lights being on one evening. They have been successful in stopping the construction on the west side of the stadium for the past three weeks even during the day due to threats of a lawsuit. The weather is not to blame as much as a few neighbors for stopping the completion of the stadium. It is truly dissappointing someone with your level of education can continually make false and misleading comments and continue to complain to the city and waste their time. Check your facts before making false claims to stir up the community. Due to the few comments you have generated and your history of complaining, you are not taken seriously.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 4 months ago

This from the primary KU prof who thought that the hundred billion dollar Texas Supercollider was a wise expenditure of tax money!


think_about_it 8 years, 4 months ago

Well then, it looks like Mr. Melott was just put in his place.

Kirk Larson 8 years, 4 months ago

Actually, the Superconducting Super Collider would have been a great project. We would have learned a lot. Kansas actually had a better site for it than Texas, but since both G.H.W. Bush and Lloyd Benson were from Texas, Texas got the project. As it is, the US is no longer the top dog in high energy physics and we rely on Europeans to do the heavy lifting.

Hudson Luce 8 years, 4 months ago

By the way, what are the levels of arsenic and mercury in the fly ash? What's to ensure that arsenic and mercury from the fly ash won't leach into the groundwater? Why not just use limestone gravel or sand?

jonas_opines 8 years, 4 months ago

Good thoughts in the first half of the letter, but then it's like "Stay on target. Stay on target!" as he veers off.

KULHSLIONSfan 8 years, 4 months ago

Very, very accurate sources.

Why would they "choose" to quit working on a stadium due to open in a few weeks and then move all the construction crews to Free State. It has very little to do with the press box being built on the wrong side (East side, visitors) and everything to do with a few neighbors. The press box should be on the home side of the field facing away from evening sun. The neighbors after truly affected what could be a fantastic facility for the youth and the community. driedoregoathead must be one of the neighbors on Alabama complaining about their view over the back fence instead of taking a look at the condition of the property around them. Give the project some time. This will be a great development for a dying neighborhood.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 4 months ago

• jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says… bronze- I've warned you privately, now I'll warn you publicly. You do not have bearded_gnome's name correct. If you don't immediately cease to attempt to out an anonymous user, your account will be banned. In addition, I will immediately ban any account I suspect to be created by you without notice, warning or further cause. This is your final warning. Jonathan Kealing Online editor

––––– How has driedoregano lasted this long Jonathan?

shubes69 8 years, 4 months ago

Why does everyone seem so against improving our facilities at LHS? What's the big deal don't you have other more important things to worry about? Anyway, driedoregano, tell me one other football stadium that has a press box on the away side of the field where the sun shines in their eyes? Plus, the press box isn't for the cameramen to get more people in their shots, they're filming the game not the crowd, and the press box is used by coaches as well as cameramen. The press box issue is one of many where the school district has worked with the centennial neighborhood and compromised with them. Now this whole issue is hurting who it's supposed to be helping, the student-athletes who will be using these fields.

Also, the "green space for children at Centennial School" has been turned into a baseball field... green space for children/high school student-athletes to use.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 4 months ago

Relax and have a popsicle, dried. It's a cool and fruity treat on a summer day.

KULHSLIONSfan 8 years, 4 months ago

The original design would have been much better and would have had the press box on the correct side of the field. The current design will be great if the press box can be properly placed as well as the restrooms and storage facilities.

FYI, no info warning label for full body shower. Go to the Astroturf and General Sports Venue for the facts on the excellent decision by the school board for the athletic fields. Very good ACCURATE information.

U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission Confirms That AstroTurf(R) Systems and Other Synthetic Fields Are Safe Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:20pm EDT

RALEIGH, NC, Jul 30 (MARKET WIRE) -- The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) today released its evaluation of the safety of synthetic turf athletic fields, concluding that young children are not at risk from exposure to lead in these fields. As an overall guideline, the CPSC recommends that children wash their hands after playing outside. The commission's evaluation is available at

"As a company whose success depends on scientific fact and technical data, we were confident that the science would eventually prevail over the hyperbole of the past few months," said Jon Pritchett, CEO of GeneralSports Venue, the exclusive licensee of the AstroTurf brand in the U.S. "We have said all along that concerns about potential health risks posed by synthetic turf fields were unrealistic based on the scientific

evidence, and the CPSC announcement validates our position that AstroTurf products are perfectly safe for children and athletes to enjoy. We are thankful that the federal government was able to move rapidly to calm the fears of our industry's customers all over the U.S."

The CPSC's findings are consistent with those presented at a New York City press conference hosted by GSV/AstroTurf in May. That presentation titled, "Synthetic Turf: The Science Behind the Safety," is available in its entirety at The contributing experts, including

polymer and fiber engineering specialist Dr. Davis Lee, Ph.D., of InnovaNet Consulting; Dr. Black of Aegis Sciences Corporation, food and environmental toxicologist Dr. James R. Coughlin, Ph.D. of Coughlin & Associates, concurred that AstroTurf(R) products present no health risk.

"Our single most important priority is the safety of our products," said GSV Chairman, Michael Dennis. "GSV/AstroTurf USA is firmly committed to harnessing its vertical integration and expertise in an effort to continue

leading the synthetic turf industry in research and innovation that enhances the quality of life in communities across the country."

svenway_park 8 years, 4 months ago

Goodness, goodness. Driedoregano, after insulting Mr. Kealing recently, is trying to make nice. That is really funny.

After blasting the current design of the football stadium in the last two weeks, he now claims credit for its improvement. That is hilarious

But then he lies and continues to twist. That is no surprise.

We learn there is an Amended Consent Agreement.

I guess Mommy signed it and failed to tell sonny boy. Thats really funny.

That is rip-snorting funny...... that his neighbors and his mother have figured out he has lied to everyone, and that his role in this matter has never been to make things better, but to continue to throw a temper tantrum for everyone in Lawrence....... largely using this forum.

Keep posting Cool/Spiderman/Coltrane/Rusty2/Ariadne.........

Maybe it is YOU who needs to study zoning and development law? Go get an architecture degree. Because you obviously still do not understand what is legal and what is not.

svenway_park 8 years, 4 months ago

driedoregano says: "shubes – this has been misconstrued all along. Centennial neighbors are not against the facility at all."

Actually, that may be correct. It is driedoregano who has lied on behalf of and to the neighborhood, and the neighborhood association, exaggerating the nature of the neighborhoods concerns, telling lies to them about his communications, and worrying most about his personal desire for a permanent unused greenspace outside his back door for him to use as his personal dog run.

svenway_park 8 years, 4 months ago

driedoregano, It is more like a foul ball, straight back.... on the lot full of dog poop.

You know, back where the lies are generated and recycled.

That Van-Go building looks fantastic, doesn't it? Thank god for real architects who don't use license boards as marketing mechanisms.

And driedoregano, you should criticize a stockholder of anything. You should just focus on paying your debts.

KULHSLIONSfan 8 years, 4 months ago

dried herb is ariadne? Now I understand the senseless posts.

I am not a copy and post person, but the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission seems like a pretty reputable source and the facts should be presented.

Now that I realize who is posting, I am done wasting my time with someone trying to post lies and increase their number of posts.

svenway_park 8 years, 4 months ago


Yes, he is the same Cool/Ariadne/Coltrane/Rusty2/Spiderman and several other ids.

The same one who went door to door in his neighborhood and agitated for a law suit to protect his personal back-door greenspace. The same one who was quoted in a LJW article as "supporting" the field improvements. The same one who posted hundreds of posts on this forum from the supposed perspective of the CNA neighborhood association, when he doesn't even own his own house (ask him why). The same one who while signing a settlement (on behalf of his mother) agreement urged on this forum for other neighbors to initiate new litigation against the school board.

The same one who has engaged in a practice of agitating for and filing license practice complaints against his colleagues, including distinguished professors, when he is not awarded business. The same one who has a clear history of doing the same thing in Colorado. The same one who would make posts on these forums about issues in front of the Historic Resources Commission, while he served on the Commission. The same one who would solicit business from those with business in front of the same Commission.

Same guy. Same M.O.

KULHSLIONSfan 8 years, 4 months ago

Thanks Svenway, I should have picked up on the senseless ramblings from the beginning.

svenway_park 8 years, 4 months ago

so, driedoregano, who has posted hundreds of posts here criticizing these improvements, who thumped his bible trying to get people to show up to meetings to oppose these improvements, and helped promote a lawsuit against Lawrence taxpayers to stop these improvements, having lived in the area for only a few years, now says that there has been 54 years of delay in getting this project accomplished.


Pretty funny. But so typical.

KU_Dude 8 years, 4 months ago

Hey Svenway,

You forgot to mention that driedoregeno is also the same person who posted endlessly about the Oread Inn.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 4 months ago

And as soon as dried is disappereded again, he will resurface under yet another handle to flog his personal dead horses.

KU_Dude 8 years, 4 months ago

Practice what you preach Mr. Cool/araidne/coltrane/sven/driedoregeno.........

KU_Dude 8 years, 4 months ago

worth repeating...

jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says… bronze- I've warned you privately, now I'll warn you publicly. You do not have bearded_gnome's name correct. If you don't immediately cease to attempt to out an anonymous user, your account will be banned. In addition, I will immediately ban any account I suspect to be created by you without notice, warning or further cause. This is your final warning. Jonathan Kealing Online editor

KU_Dude 8 years, 4 months ago

How I forgot Bronze as a former name escapes me.

KU_Dude 8 years, 4 months ago

Mr. Kealing,

I just got the following from dried oregeno. What does it mean? see below.


The user driedoregano sent the following message to you via


go bleep yourself!


Please do not reply to this e-mail message. To send driedoregano a response, visit this Web page:

remember_username 8 years, 4 months ago

Wow, I can't even come close to following this thread. Please Mr. Kealing hit the reset button or something - let's start over!

KU_Dude 8 years, 4 months ago

driedoregano (Anonymous) says…

oh no mr. bill — how obnoxious can KU DUDE be?

does he ever post on the actual story?

Last I checked..this is a letter to the editor, not a story.

shubes69 8 years, 4 months ago

Gave YOU a headache?? How about the 70 plus football players/coaches, how about the soccer teams?

I personally spend three hours on that field every day and have never felt any effects of the "hazardous astroturf" that just about every other football stadium in the U.S. has.

Oh and I like how you criticize someone else for researching and getting some legitimate facts when you seem to be an endless source of useless information.

P.S. Don't you have a job or something? You literally are commenting on this forum nonstop

shubes69 8 years, 4 months ago

Never said I don't smell it. Just said it doesn't effect me, and I have yet to hear anyone say, "coach I can't breathe, the gas given off by the turf is getting to me". If anything, the heat from the turf effects us, not the fumes. And what about people who work on roads? They spend a lot more time around toxic fumes than anyone using the field.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 4 months ago

Relax and have a popsicle, dried. It's a cool and fruity treat on a summer day.

jafs 8 years, 4 months ago


"affect" is the word you mean to use.

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