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Stadium at LHS has ADA issues

USD 497 is working with nearby residents to get athletic fields upgrades completed.

August 15, 2009

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The home-side grandstand at Lawrence High School’s new football stadium remains unfinished, but that’s not what could prevent the Lions from playing their home opener on Sept. 4.

Work still needs to be done to make the stadium accessible for the disabled.

Compliance with the federal Americans with Disabilities Act is one reason the school board deferred a bid for a press box at LHS at its Aug. 10 meeting.

The $370,000 bid for the work included an elevator, which bumped up the price. At Free State, where a football stadium also is being built, the district can build a ramp with a lift to be ADA-compliant.

“We can’t do a lift (at Lawrence High) because it’s too high,” said school district facility planning director Tom Bracciano. “Anything over a certain footage, you need to do an elevator. The reason the cost is so expensive is they have to be accessible.”

“Those are the things that would keep us from being able to use the facility as opposed to a couple rows of bleachers at the top,” said the district’s chief operations officer Frank Harwood. “(With) 4,000 seats, we can probably get by when a couple hundred aren’t done yet.”

The grandstand issue is still in dispute with Centennial Neighborhood residents.

“We’ve had meetings with them about restrooms and concessions and about landscaping,” Harwood said. “We’ve talked to them about bleachers. We’re actually looking at some changes to the top of the bleachers.”

The LHS home side is on the west side of the football field, closest to the neighbors. The district believes it has solid direction from the neighborhood on a restroom and concession plan, which includes a dual purpose building on the south side of the field and another restroom in the northeast corner of the facility.

But neighbors have concerns that the district is altering plans without communicating with them.

“Things keep changing,” said Jeanne Wright, one of the neighbors who have raised objections to the new sports fields, which led to a lawsuit that was settled. “It’s different from what we talked about in terms of the settlement agreement, so that’s why we want to know what’s going on.”

But Harwood said part of the reason the tops of the bleachers aren’t done is because the structure is just one of those outlined in the settlement and conversations need to be had.

Even though work is behind thanks to about 70 rain days, the district has directed contractors to work on the parts of the upgrades where outside input isn’t necessary.

That includes preparing the football fields to be compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act.

“You’ll have wheelchair access coming in and coming back,” Bracciano said. “We have wheelchair seating all the way down and spaces down the front row.”

Comments

listener 5 years, 4 months ago

First of all, did the district or the contractor not realize MONTHS ago that this thing had to be ADA compliant-not thinking this is a new little law.

Second-I am about sick to death of the neighbors dictating what the field can look like. That neighborhood has been next to a university and high school for decades! It is already approximately 60% rental. They have offered no verifiable proof that having this stadium will hurt their property values other than "oh come on,you know it will". They are costing the district/taxpayers more money. It has to stop, the district has to say enough and move forward.

kansasmutt 5 years, 4 months ago

If this was someone building a new business in Lawrence, they wouldnt be able to make all those changes , nor gotten away with oversteping the A D A act codes. 497 is screwing you taxpayers again , out of millions.

kusp8 5 years, 4 months ago

I agree wholeheartedly with you listener! Hey, Lawrence Public Schools listen up!!! Pull a Topeka, normally not a good thing, but stick with me, get the city to use eminent domain and just get rid of those biotchy neighbors. Normally I wouldn't suggest using eminent domain, but this is ridiculous! Why let a small group of people stand in the way of progress!?

Maybe there's more to this that I'm not aware of, but unless there is, this is the worse rendition of a never-ending story I've seen in a while.

wordgenie8 5 years, 4 months ago

Lawrence has ADA issues up the butt including with the city and KU bus systems. It's a very inconvenient and inaccessible and unpedestrian friendly place Also, the general public around here needs to realize that civil rights law has confidentiality provisions and as a violation of these it is terribly presumptuous and threatening and self-centered for strangers to approach others on the street and offer assistance unless someone is truly in an emergency situation. Trust me, people can manage alone and don't enjoy being patronized or pitied. This is a disrespectful intrusion on personal boundaries and interferes with equal treatment under the law and free use of public space. It's an ignorant and uneducated attitude that needs to go. The next time someone does this to me or my friend we'll ask if they've had their AIDS test recently. We don't take solicitations.

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

Listener, this is not about a large group of neighbors, although there is a group of a dozen or so neighbors who had a range of concerns about the project. (a slightly larger number of neighbors had signed a generalized statement of concern).

The agitation on this project, and the coverage you have read, was created by a single neighbor.

He personally passed petitions and visited door to door to get people worked up, and to find a group to finance a lawsuit on his very "personal" vendetta against this project. This lawsuit continued until his neighbors' concluded they could not finance this individual's desired objective of continued litigation.

This neighbor spread misinformation and dissension in the neighborhood. He sought for them to serve as his proxy.

As a result, this individual encouraged needless litigation which caused the expenditure thousands of dollars of public school taxes to defend against his frivolous litigation. (i.e. he accomplished nothing which would not have been accomplished in much less formal and costly communications)

He had purchased a home (well, a relative financed it) only a few years ago, which backs onto the practice fields. He believed he had an unfettered right for this public land to continue to be undeveloped, and serve as continued greenspace next his residence.

This individual is licensed in a development trades which afforded him clear knowledge that the fields were likely to be further improved for increased use. He acquired this home directly next to a school athletic field, even though he has no children. The fields' designation and use as athletic practice fields preceded his residency by decades.

He abused his community speech rights by using several different LJW forum identities on these boards to post many hundreds of posts about the topic. Those many posts were filled with one-sided, inaccurate and misleading information. They included outright lies. They were frequently abusive and slanderous of elected and appointive officials and their professional staffs.

He abused others on this forum by harassing them, sending them threatening emails and slandering them on these boards.

In printed LJW articles with attribution about about the project, he would lie. (for instance that he 'supported' these athletic field improvements).

He continually spoke on this forum "on behalf" of the neighborhood association on this issue, although he could not even be a member of the association, since he does not own his own house. The association's involvement allowed for his sock-puppetry here.

The LJW moderators banned him a number of times from this forum for repeated and flagrant violations of its policies.

Fortunately, he is either gone again, or has changed his ways.

jmadison 5 years, 4 months ago

Which architectural firm designed this stadium? Did the city's building inspectors sign off on this construction? How much more is this going to cost to bring into compliance?

somebodynew 5 years, 4 months ago

@svenway_park - Interesting perspective, and from what I recall, pretty acurate. For some reason I thought you were someone else when I read you on this and another article.

BigPrune 5 years, 4 months ago

LHS must have a new "green" stadium since the stands were constructed by putting in a giant earthen berm then covering it in landscape blocks. Hope it holds. Is it safe to say that not one piece of concrete was used to construct the grandstand, except they'll have to use concrete for the elevator? Putting in the elevator should cost about $45,000. I wonder how much the district will be paying, $150,000? We'll have to wait and see.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

That pretty much sums it up, svenway_park.

Jay Riner 5 years, 4 months ago

Umm Wordgenie...think ya might be just a LITTLE bitter? Just because someone may offer assistance, it CAN be for reasons other than pity. If someone holds the door open for you...that could just be manners. Maybe you should just relax and accept some kindness without trying to make yourself the victim. Psychotherapy might help. Just a thought.

redmoonrising 5 years, 4 months ago

B3, let me reimind you of the old, "There but by the grace of God, go I." I have a disabled child who holds down a job, goes to KU football games, attends all sorts of events and even requires a bit of help sometimes walking. I guess you would have people like him sit in front of the TV, never getting out, because it isn't convenient for you? He is most likely as productive a member of society as you are. Everyone who knows him likes him. He's a nice person. It's not his fault he's disabled but the attitude of people like you makes it even harder for him. Maybe you should take a day and spend it with a disabled person to find out how really independent they are, how much they have to offer and to learn that they can work and play like you, just not as easily. So for that you would deny them access? He graduated from LHS and if he wanted to go to a football game there, does he not deserve that right as much as you do?

lama 5 years, 4 months ago

Why are they building TWO football stadiums when the district is supposedly strapped for cash?

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

Marion, we realize you have previously shilled for a local individual regarding this, and similar, topics for some time. BFF, I guess.

In fact your comments here mimic his. Glad he is in communication.

You should maybe teach him about how the Holocaust really didn't happen the way scholars say it did, or about how David Irving really is such a gifted historian.

mom_of_three 5 years, 4 months ago

I don't think the stadium is ugly at all. Watched the band night program a few weeks ago, and the seating looked great, much better than aluminum seating.

Katara 5 years, 4 months ago

Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says… Marion, we realize you have previously shilled for a local individual regarding this, and similar, topics for some time. BFF, I guess.

In fact your comments here mimic his. Glad he is in communication.

You should maybe teach him about how the Holocaust really didn't happen the way scholars say it did, or about how David Irving really is such a gifted historian.

and

Ironhorse66 (Anonymous) says… Marion- YOU do realise your BFF is not listed as plaintiff on one single shred of documentation related to this? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You both also forgot to include that Marion does not live in Lawrence, KS.

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

Why have two schools? It's a pretty old question which has been discussed ad nauseum, quite frankly. And which the community decided by popular vote long ago.

And since Marion is not a patron, taxpayer, or voter, or resident of the district, his opinions are even less relevant than usual.

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

oops, Katara.

You caught me as I was writing to make that very point.

penguin 5 years, 4 months ago

Seriously...KU on Wheels does not have ADA issues. It did years ago, with its general service buses. However, KU on Wheels has Jay Lift (formerly Lift Van) to serve those with greater need. In addition, the new buses (in case you have not seen them) are ADA compliant. The system was a problem when they had the old Lawrence Bus Company buses. However, the new ones are equipped to lower to the curb/have lifts in them. They would not be able to receive federal money for Park and Ride if this condition had not met. So the next time you speak wordgenie...make sure you have up to date facts.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 4 months ago

Wordgenie Exactly what kind of disabilities do you and your friend have and what sort of help was offered? Everyone loves to watch football and everyone loves to watch their kids play. It is a very important part of school life. I was thrilled when my granddaughter went to football games and they tore the goalposts down. She said they dumped them in Potter Lake. Like making an artificial reef. We did the same thing in my day only I don't think we did the lake bit.

lynnard03 5 years, 4 months ago

If you don't like what is going on in Lawrence then MOVE. Stop talking the talk and walk the walk. People like you guys drive me crazy, all you do is bitch and don't do a damn thing about it.

lynnard03 5 years, 4 months ago

Marion you don't live here. None of this is your concern. And no exposing these issues isn't do anything about it. Doing something would mean show up at a school board meeting and bring it to their attention, I doubt that our school board members have time to sit and read the dump comments that are posted on LJWorld.com. So really NO Marion you aren't doing anything.

Alabamastreet 5 years, 4 months ago

There are several macro issues here that are quite interesting to me. I know how we got where we are, but still:

  1. A bunch of money being spent and people getting mad over what amounts to activity for at most -- and that's if there is a really, really good football team -- 5-7 Friday nights out of the entire year, and probably some daytime JV/Soph games. Not a big deal for the neighbors or the school district. Just a lot of wasted time and money about nothing.

  2. The KU practice fields, if they had been constructed only slightly differently, would have been a perfect place for a district stadium as well. KU and the district could have combined money and still had enough left over to put High School practice/JV fields at each high school with the games at KU on Friday nights. Of course no way KU or the district would have ever gotten together to figure that out. And none of the neighbors by the KU football stadium would have cared. Great place for Friday night tailgating, parking, etc. It just needed some coordination of schedules and money.

  3. Sad, for the reasons above. Too bad this community, its neighborhoods and KU don't see the simple macro reality of the situations they find themselves in.

lynnard03 5 years, 4 months ago

dump should be dumb. I missed my mistake earlier

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

Relax and have a popsicle, marioni. Its a cool and fruity treat on a hot day.

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bearded_gnome 5 years, 4 months ago

so now, Marioni admits there will be night games!

remember his ranting across a dozen or so threads, many many posts...now he admits there will be night games!

looks like his E85 is getting bad again.


The grandstand issue is still in dispute with Centennial Neighborhood residents.

“We’ve had meetings with them about restrooms and concessions and about landscaping,” Harwood said. “We’ve talked to them about bleachers. We’re actually looking at some changes to the top of the bleachers.”

---WTH!
I do protest this! why should the centenial neighbors, or that very unruly and lying neighbor in particular, have any more input on this than I do?

kick them down the road! the few that stuck with this were ginned up by the former Bronze, who doesn't even own property in this city. and on three or four issues, first he's for it, then he's against it, i.e. the drainage. he tried to claim that flooding in his neighborhood was the result of the new fields going in...the drainage work wasn't done...and he had formerly supported the drainage plan! also, he attacked this constellation of field and tennis center, but criticized it for having too few parking spaces. then he criticized moving the Tennis center...to get more parking spaces!*

oh, right on Svenway-park!

USD497 leaders: hang up on these 'neighbors' and start just listening to average lawrence citizens!

Jay Riner 5 years, 4 months ago

Tumbilweed....If you don't like football, don't post on a thread that has anything to do with football. Wait until there is a thread on cross stitch or scrapbooking. Then your opinion my have value.

Newell_Post 5 years, 4 months ago

It's been a few years since I dealt with the ADA, but it used to be that it looked at two types of facilities: places of public accommodation and places of employment. Places of public accommodation must be fully accessible. But for places of employment you only had to make improvements when and if you hired a disabled person, and then you had to address that person's specific disability.

In this case, the stands are a place of public accommodation and must be accessible. However, the press box is not open to the general public, but people work there. It seems like the "place of employment" standard might apply. Of course, there is no telling when they might hire a reporter or coach in a wheelchair....

Katara 5 years, 4 months ago

Well...he's back. Who wants to start a pool? I'll put $5 bucks in the kitty to start out.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

Relax and have a popsicle, dried. It's a cool and fruity treat on a summer night. Katara, are we betting on how long this incarnation lasts?

Katara 5 years, 4 months ago

snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says… Relax and have a popsicle, dried. It's a cool and fruity treat on a summer night. Katara, are we betting on how long this incarnation lasts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yup. What time slot do you want?

habeogladium 5 years, 4 months ago

There are, in fact, fully accessible Port-A-Potties. They are as nasty as the regular ones, but have all the space and grab bar requirements found in a regular ADA-compliant restroom stall.. Most major events bring in a few of these both for accessibility reasons and because parents with small children in strollers like the extra room.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

katara, I'd put a nickel down that he's gone by sundown tomorrow.

camper 5 years, 4 months ago

It looks like they are building a good stadium. The construction should also improve home values on the West side of the lot. I cannot figure what all the uproar was over.

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

Well, since "he" has reappeared. I will repeat some of what I said earlier:


Listener, this is not, and never has been about a large group of neighbors, although there is a group of a dozen or so neighbors who initially had a range of concerns about the project. (a slightly larger number of neighbors had signed a rather broadranging statement of concerns).

The agitation on this project in the neighborhood, and the coverage you have read, was created by a single neighbor. One will little interest in the community, the schools, or basic honesty.

He personally passed petitions and visited door to door to get people worked up to a lather on this topic, and to find a group of individuals to finance a lawsuit on his very “personal” vendetta against this project. This lawsuit continued until his neighbors' concluded they could no longer finance this particular individual's erronious legal opinions. He signed the settlement, but he certainly did not want to. He could find nobody to continue to waste money.

This neighbor spread misinformation and dissension in the neighborhood. He sought for them to serve as his proxy in his vendetta against the school board.

As a result, this individual helped initiate litigation which caused the expenditure of thousands of dollars of public school taxes.

He had purchased a home (well, a relative financed it) only a few years ago, which backs onto the practice fields. He believed he had an unfettered right for this public land to continue to be his personal greenspace..

This individual is licensed in a development trade which afforded him clear knowledge that the fields were likely to be further improved for increased use. The fields' designation and use as athletic practice fields preceded his residency by decades.

He abused his community speech rights by using several different LJW forum identities on these boards to post many hundreds of posts about the topic. Those many posts were filled with one-sided, inaccurate and misleading information. They included outright lies. They were frequently abusive and slanderous of elected and appointive officials and their professional staffs.

He abused others on this forum by harassing them, sending them threatening emails and slandering them on these boards.

In printed LJW articles with attribution about about the project, he would lie. (for instance he stated that he 'supported' these athletic field improvements).

He continually spoke on this forum “on behalf” of the neighborhood association on this issue, although he could not even be a member of the association, since he does not own his own house. The association's unauthorized involvement in the litigation allowed for his sock-puppetry on this forum.

The LJW moderators have banned him a number of times from this forum for repeated and flagrant violations of its policies.

I guess we will see how they respond to his new handle: driedoregano.

bearded_gnome 5 years, 4 months ago

Katara, my thought exactly!

Driedoregano? c'mon Bronzie/cool/spiderman/coltrane/rusty2/ariadne/ocean..."driedoregano" is truly beneath your standard...and besides I was looking for Oedipus for your new screen name.

on the bet, I'm a little less optimistic...I give him seven days...that is sunset saturday.


and we must note for those unfamiliar with this dreg of human debris now calling himself 'driedoregano' he doesn't care about the greenness, he doesn't care about the student injuries, he doesn't care about the turf, he doesn't really care about the drainage, he doesn't really care about the parking, lights, sound, or anything else except his own little world.

he's the guy I ref above, first for then against. on the neighborhood flooding he tried to blame on the LHS fields...it was a flash flood! there was flash flooding all over town!


and in closing I want to note to my fellow posters: I'm e-mailing jonathan, and I encourage you to do the same regarding 'driedoregano' /bronze/cool/ocean/cool/spiderman/coltrane/jaguar/rusty2. he's now been TOSsed off of here at least 8 times! apparently he's now going for number 9!

bearded_gnome 5 years, 4 months ago

Marioni, you really are the drunken bear.

did I reference the ADA issues in the post to which you replied? NO!

if you sober up and read it, you'll see I was talking about, and quoted from the article on, the consultation with the extortioners--I mean neighbors.


now, regarding most of what you've posted hear, its meaningless twaddle.

yes, they may have to put in a lift or elevator, and somebody should have foreseen that one. yes, the Johnnies need to be accessible, and those do exist, my experience is they're perhaps nicer than standard ones. folks could get spoiled on the accessible ones.


if we get up enough donations, can we get portraits of 'driedoregano'/bronze/et al, and put them up in the LHS field bathrooms? rather appropriate and might help keep people moving through them.

bearded_gnome 5 years, 4 months ago

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Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

Is the junkyard in Wyandotte CO ADA compliant?

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

Marion applauds swan_diver for his rants on American schools, as if it is relevant.

The school I would be most concerned with, is the one which presumably let Marion through a graduation ceremony.

Isn't a graduate supposed to be able to read, write, and comprehend? I guess Marion's school totally dropped that bar his year. And you know what? I bet they had competitive athletic fields too!

Just more of the same from the LJW's illiterate Rush Limbaugh.

And it will be interesting to see if the LJW is at all serious in following through with its promises to police their forum. Color me dubious.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

This poor little mud show needs its geek to draw in the rubes.

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

Since when has Marion driven by Centennial school? Or been concerned about parking lot design?

Cool/Ariadne/Spiderman is using him as a puppet because he knows using "driedoregano" will get him booted.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What do "I" think? I think the neighborhood will have a lot more parking spaces, at taxpayers expense, to greatly assist in the normal daily parking demand. And yet Cool/Ariadne/Spiderman will continue to bitc*

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

What would spiderham do in such a situation?

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

I am not too terribly concerned about these concerns. The district's architects are competent, unlike you-know-who.

If the last year's history on this project has taught us anything, it is that one particular local architect, now posting again as driedoregano, is incapable of reading and accurately understanding or explaining building and development codes and in particular, the law. Well, he has no degree in architecture, so I shouldn't be surprised.

He should have learned from his lawsuit and his previous preachings to us about the law, that by him repeating and re-posting incorrect information 300+ times here does not make it so.

I imagine the same thing could very well be going on here. It is interesting he is arguing for an interpretation that would minimize the new parking the school district will provide to his neighborhood.

Again, he really doesn't believe in what he preaches. He just wants to harass. He is a sore loser.

I wonder if J. Kealing will follow through with his promises to boot him off this forum.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

Pretty bold accusations, marioni. Does your BB agree?

bearded_gnome 5 years, 4 months ago

well, I see 'driedoregon' hasn't been disappearededed yet... countdown.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

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Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

Marion, that "arky-tek" talk is pretty funny, since this issue comes from a single "arky-tek" who has demonstrated repeatedly his lack of ability to understand and accurately interpret planning and zoning rules and law. For instance, probably once again here on this issue.

7texdude 5 years, 4 months ago

I know I'm a newcomer to Lawrence - have lived here over a year now and am not a student - but we need to focus on one issue: how was this stadium project planned? I may understand this wrong, but to have this ADA issue come up now seems amazing to me. How did it happen? And $370,000 for a press box? As a former sportswriter in Texas, this seems a bit excessive to me. Who cares about the media any way?

This is an important issue to me because this is a lot of money going to a project that I will rarely if ever attend - high school football games in Lawrence. I am not arguing against it - it's already almost done regardless. But how was this planned? If you tell me 1 neighbor is causing all this trouble against the city, then I question the city planners' ability to troubleshoot.

There has to be a better way to run things here.

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

Funny it is that a local architect (arkey-tek) created the lawsuit against the city. ....and now is pronouncing his interpretation of ADA to others...

He really doesn't care about anything, other than lying about ADA standards, and other standards.

I would suggest you read his history on this topic, but the LJW has booted those identities, and hence 7texdude and other do not know how twisted these informations sources are.

I respectfully suggest that Cool be booted once again, as promised by the moderators.

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

driedoregano (Anonymous) says…"the so called lawsuit was a 'right of statutory appeal' ..."


There is only one person who has been using this Orwellian speech from day one, and he is still incorrect.

Notice even he uses the quote marks. He knows he is engaged in a lie.

The so-called lawsuit.... is a lawsuit.

When you ask for judicial review, you are engaged in ......litigation.

And when the planning commission, planning staff, city commission, city staff, school board, school staff have all done their work properly, and made reasonable and defensible conclusions supported by the facts, you are going to...... lose.

This so-called architect agitated, and went door-to-door in his neighborhood to sue the community.

Yes they reached a settlement agreement on their way out of litigation.... but it was obvious that 1) the plaintiffs (i.e. driedoregano) had a case which would fall flat on its face, and 2) in light of that, the neighbor plaintiffs thought better about financing driedoreganos incorrect opinions.

The seven named did precisely litigate against the community. The mention of 27 unsigned plaintiffs just shows you how idiotic he is. There is no such thing. They are ghosts in his pea-sized brain.

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

there are such things as unsigned plaintiffs


Fairy dust, once again from the Arky-Teck.

svenway_park 5 years, 4 months ago

The so-called lawsuit…. is a lawsuit.

When you ask for judicial review, you are engaged in ……litigation.... a lawsuit.

And when the planning commission, planning staff, city commission, city staff, school board, school staff have all done their work properly, and made reasonable and defensible conclusions supported by the facts, you are going to…… lose.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 4 months ago

Relax and have a popsicle, dried. It's a cool and fruity treat on a summer day.

bearded_gnome 5 years, 4 months ago

Driedo: 73 nearby property owners signed a protest petition to the City Commission. amyx,hack,dever,chestnut, and BOOG all voted for the projects with insufficent parking anyway.

---thought he was Mr. Spellcheck, calling others on their minor spelling errors as a way to try to discredit their arguments...is he looking in the mirror?

a "protest petition" is not a lawsuit. "unsigned plaintiffs" is imaginary.

Did Driedo get that from Marioni?
is Marioni giving him legal advice now?

does Driedo have a life? obsessive posting, reposting over and over of the same drivel. who does Driedo think he is convincing?

He doesn't really care about the parking. he doesn't care about the USD497 budget. he certainly doesn't care about the LHS kids. in fact, do the LHS kids need to be protected from him?

let's see, if donations could provide the field bathrooms/lockerrooms at FSHS...can we get up enough donations so large color pictures of Driedo/bronze/cool/ariadne/ocean/spiderman/et al[he has been thrown off this forum 9 times] can be put up in all the LHS bathrooms? his picture might just help keep the traffic moving there.

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