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Kansas senators threaten action over moving Guantanamo detainees to Leavenworth

Kansas leaders angry that questions about detainees aren’t being answered

August 6, 2009, 11:51 a.m. Updated August 6, 2009, 4:49 p.m.

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U.S. Sens. Sam Brownback and Pat Roberts on Thursday sought to block a number of President Obama’s government appointments because of reports that Obama is considering putting Guantanamo Bay detainees in Fort Leavenworth.

The two senators, both Republicans, oppose moving foreign terrorist suspects to Fort Leavenworth, and expressed frustration that the Obama administration will not address their questions.

“It really irritates me,” Brownback said, adding he was tired of rumors about the issue and leaks from the administration without being consulted. “This is no way to run a government,” he said.

In January, Obama signed an executive order, promising to close the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention facility by the end of 2009.

Last weekend, reports said plans to bring Guantanamo inmates to the U.S. focused on two sites -- Fort Leavenworth, home of the military’s only maximum security prison, and a maximum security prison in Standish, Mich.

Both Roberts and Brownback said such a move could threaten the mission of Fort Leavenworth, which includes the Command and General Staff College.

The college trains military leaders from the U.S. and around the world. Brownback said the governments of Jordan, Pakistan and Egypt have said they would not send trainees to Fort Leavenworth if terrorist suspects were housed there.

Roberts said the fort is the “intellectual center” of the U.S. Army. Incarcerating the “100 worst of the worst” terrorists there would put the fort at risk and possibly the development of future military schools and operations in Leavenworth, he said.

Obama has said Guantanamo needs to be closed because detention of prisoners there for years without trial has been detrimental to U.S. foreign policy.

“There is also no question that Guantanamo set back the moral authority that is America's strongest currency in the world,” Obama said in a recent speech. “Instead of building a durable framework for the struggle against al Qaeda that drew upon our deeply held values and traditions, our government was defending positions that undermined the rule of law. In fact, part of the rationale for establishing Guantanamo in the first place was the misplaced notion that a prison there would be beyond the law -- a proposition that the Supreme Court soundly rejected.”

But Brownback and Roberts said Guantanamo Bay should remain in operation. Roberts said prisoners there had access to better health care there than people in many American communities.

The senators said they have put legislative holds on approximately 10 Obama appointees to senior positions in the departments of defense and justice, the two departments that are dealing with the detainee issue.

The senators have called for a face-to-face meeting with top officials in the defense and justice departments and have said the holds, which would delay Senate consideration of those appointees, could last indefinitely.

Comments

uofk03 5 years, 7 months ago

Good idea, Senators. Keep important justice department positions open (and compromise our national defense) so that you can throw a hissy fit about detainees.

UfoPilot 5 years, 7 months ago

Good idea, Senators. Keep important justice department >positions open

Like the Dems did to Bush?

(and compromise our national defense)

bringing them into the U.S. compromises our National Defense.

so that you can throw a hissy fit about detainees.

When is concern about YOUR safety, throwing a "hissy fit"?

Daniel Speicher 5 years, 7 months ago

Maybe I'm missing something... Does Obama want to give them condos in Leavenworth and a national pardon? I could have sworn the proposal was to put them in one of the nation's heaviest-guarded facilities. If I'm right about the proposal... I don't really see how this is a threat to national or state-side security. Can someone explain that to me? I must be having a "slow" day.

--Danny Speicher

christie 5 years, 7 months ago

Seriously, the GOP has no clout. Please go away and preach family values while you are having affairs with your interns.

Still this Liberal wonders why these people have not been tried, found innocent or guilty, and if guilty, shot and buried with their heads facing south.

morganlefay 5 years, 7 months ago

I don't get it. Why would anyone want terrorists to be kept in their own backyard?! I'm not a republican, but I hope these senators do put their foot down to make sure the prisoners are not sent here!

jimmyjms 5 years, 7 months ago

"bringing them into the U.S. compromises our National Defense."

Um, how? Are you seriously saying that our military/law enforcement officers are unable to house these people?

"I don't get it. Why would anyone want terrorists to be kept in their own backyard?! "

They have to go somewhere. We arrested them (most haven't been charged), so we got to put 'em somewhere.

Buncha babies.

james bush 5 years, 7 months ago

OB(fucator)AMA just wants to keep everybody guessing/upset about something so that his subversives aren't detected in other USA undermining activities.

uncleandyt 5 years, 7 months ago

Innocent until proven guilty Don't forget to think .

morganlefay 5 years, 7 months ago

Okay, let's house them here in Lawrence instead of LV and see if some of you would change your tune then!

pace 5 years, 7 months ago

maybe the should take a different position than putting their tail between their legs and letting the GOP paint their backs yellow.

KansasVoter 5 years, 7 months ago

The government either needs to try these men and boys in a court of law (and yes, they are holding boys as young as 12 at Gitmo) or let them go. If they're guilty of something it should be easy to convict them. If they're not guilty of anything they should be freed and reimbursed for their false imprisonment. This is America, and the government can't decide to ignore the law when those in power choose to.

And again, what are you republicans so scared of? I still haven't heard a legitimate reason for why you are so scared.

Alia Ahmed 5 years, 7 months ago

Two states (Colorado and Indiana) housed our very own home grown terrorist, Timothy McVeigh, prior to his execution and seemed to manage it okay.

hipper_than_hip 5 years, 7 months ago

Johnson Atoll would be a fine place to keep them.

Practicality 5 years, 7 months ago

logicsound09,

As someone who has spent a great deal of time working in some of our nations correctional facilities, I can agree that, from a security standpoint, the risk is not any greater to house terrorists than anyone else. If an incident occurs in the prison, it will be contained and eventually subdued. The risk to the staff and other inmates is the same as with all the other scumbags in there, in my opionion. As you pointed out, the only real risk comes from the outside. There is a huge difference between a prison in Leavenworth and Gitmo. Civilans are not able to drive right up to Gitmo, whereas in Leavenworth, anyone can get close. That being said, I am not against them being housed in Kansas.

P.S., Leavenworth does not currently have a Supermax prison. It houses the USDB, Leavenworth Peniteniary (A Level 5 Federal Security Prison) Lansing Correctional Facility, and a Private Prison. I know they are building on the USDB, and it might be a supermax when they are finished (I don't know if that is the intention), but none of the other facilities are considered a Supermax.

akuna 5 years, 7 months ago

Roberts and Brownback are proving that they are unpatriotic Americans. Boo to both of them.

james bush 5 years, 7 months ago

Obama's spies are alive and well on LJW posts...........probably reporting all of us to the whitehouse.

opinion 5 years, 7 months ago

I do believe Former Gov. Sebelius was also against the move. Does that make her unpatriotic and a fearmongerer?

ASBESTOS 5 years, 7 months ago

"Johnson Atoll would be a fine place to keep them. "

Nothing out there anymore.

8ball 5 years, 7 months ago

i have not heard of one politician from ks,be it rep or dem. in favor of this move

puddleglum 5 years, 7 months ago

hey 8 ball...Im a politician from ks and i like this move....

as bushy said: "bring 'em on!"

lets bring those satanists here...they can shop at wal-mart and buy junky chinese crap like the rest of us

UfoPilot 5 years, 7 months ago

It's not the ones inside a prison that is the potential problem. It's their terrorist friends that might want to try to break them out or kill some school children as an attention getter. It makes EVERYONE in KANSAS a TARGET.

Mixolydian 5 years, 7 months ago

Every single Democrat in the Kansas House and Senate, not to mention the last two Democrat Governors are likewise opposed to this move.

Here's a solution, don't move them from Cuba, they're perfectly fine down there.

cowboy 5 years, 7 months ago

Seems to me I recall these two knuckleheads as being major flag wavers in the invasion of Iraq and that Roberts was one of the key intelligence blockers for Bush et al. Well boys you reap what you sow.

kathy915 5 years, 7 months ago

Gosh I didn't know any Kansans were this stupid about having terriosts in their own backyard. You are either Obama supporters (and that explains eveything) or you just don't watch the news. Those terriorists indoctrinate the other people that are in jail with them. Then they get out after they are indoctrinated into Radical Islam they start plots agains the USA. Saw it on TV awhile back about one like that. So if you are so stupid then let them come live at your house and be with your family.

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