Archive for Saturday, April 25, 2009

2 swine flu cases confirmed in one family in Kansas

April 25, 2009, 4:26 p.m. Updated April 25, 2009, 4:49 p.m.


— The Kansas Department of Health and Environment has confirmed two cases of swine flu in the state.

According to a department news release, both cases come from the same family in Dickinson County. One member of the family recently traveled to Mexico where this particular strain of flu has originated.

Neither person was hospitalized, however one person is still recovering.

“It’s not yet known whether this will become the next flu pandemic,” stated Dr. Jason Eberhart-Phillips, State Health Officer and Director of the KDHE Division of Health. “We are working closely with health agencies at all levels and are continuing to monitor these cases. We are taking this situation very seriously.”

New York City officials announced Saturday that eight students at a high school in Queens probably have swine flu, but they're unsure of the strain type. Swine flu cases also have been reported in California and Texas.

A strain of the flu has killed as many as 68 people and sickened more than 1,000 across Mexico. The World Health Organization chief said Saturday that the strain has "pandemic potential" and it may be too late to contain a sudden outbreak.

The symptoms of swine flu in humans are similar to the symptoms of seasonal flu and include:

• Fever greater than 100 degrees

• Body aches

• Coughing

• Sore throat

• Respiratory congestion

• In some cases, diarrhea and vomiting

Individuals who experience the above symptoms should contact their physician, who will determine whether testing or treatment is needed. There is no vaccine available right now to protect against swine flu. As with any influenza virus, individuals are encouraged to take the following steps to reduce spread:

• Wash your hands thoroughly with soap and warm water or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer to get rid of most germs and avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth.

• Stay home when you are sick to avoid spreading illness to co-workers and friends.

• Cough or sneeze into your elbow or a tissue and properly dispose of used tissues.

• Stay healthy by eating a balanced diet, drinking plenty of water and getting adequate rest

and exercise.

Check back to later for more information on this developing story.


RedwoodCoast 8 years, 7 months ago

...and a family in Dickinson family, to boot. Must be a large family. Hopefully it doesn't spread to other families in other families in the state.

Daniel Kennamore 8 years, 7 months ago

Actually, Marion, other outlets are reporting one of the people who got it recently flew back from Mexico via Wichita. I'd be really surprised if this ends up being any more 'deadly' than any other flu year.

jmadison 8 years, 7 months ago

The swine flu antigens are similar to the flu that caused the pandemic of 1918-1919 that killed millions. I would not be so quick to downplay the possible virulence of this flu. Vaccines are made in the spring based on the CDC epidemiologists best guesses as to what flu will occur in the following winter. That this outbreak has occurred in an atypical month for flu in the northern hemisphere is worrisome. The worldwide spread has most likely already occurred due to air travel with transmission to new countries previously uninfected. Lets hope that the drug manufacturers have a supply of anti-flu meds stockpiled to meet the potential demand.

Daniel Kennamore 8 years, 7 months ago

Well yeah, but EVERY flu has antigens similar to one that has caused outbreaks in the past. This is not some 'new' strand of flu never seen before but rather an odd combination of 3 or 4 strains that have been in the public before. Yes, a lot of people might get sick, and maybe even in an odd time of year for it...but if we were going to see deaths in the 'millions' the mortality rate would have to be A LOT higher. Of the known 1,000 cases in Mexico only about 70 have died. A 7 percent mortality rate among known cases means the ACTUAL rate is much lower because many more people get any given virus than show symptoms or show symptoms severe enough to go to the doctor.

The fear of this flu is going to turn out to be far more damaging than the actual flu IMO.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 7 months ago

ban Dickinson county.

so, according to smitty's newswire obama has been exposed to the swine flu. there's what 10-14 day incubation?

this story could explode.

jmadison 8 years, 7 months ago

Actually the swine flu antigens H1N1 are very uncommon in the history of influenzal antigens since tracking began. This particular combination of antigens has produced particularly virulent forms of flu when it has occurred.

Daniel Kennamore 8 years, 7 months ago

Actually no jmadison, we are talking about the swine H1N1 not the human one. The Swine H1N1 is actually a particularly NON lethal variety of the flu.

From the CDC's site on the subject:

"In September 1988, a previously healthy 32-year-old pregnant woman was hospitalized for pneumonia and died 8 days later. A swine H1N1 flu virus was detected. Four days before getting sick, the patient visited a county fair swine exhibition where there was widespread influenza-like illness among the swine.

In follow-up studies, 76% of swine exhibitors tested had antibody evidence of swine flu infection but no serious illnesses were detected among this group. Additional studies suggest that one to three health care personnel who had contact with the patient developed mild influenza-like illnesses with antibody evidence of swine flu infection."


"Probably the most well known is an outbreak of swine flu among soldiers in Fort Dix, New Jersey in 1976. The virus caused disease with x-ray evidence of pneumonia in at least 4 soldiers and 1 death; all of these patients had previously been healthy. The virus was transmitted to close contacts in a basic training environment, with limited transmission outside the basic training group. The virus is thought to have circulated for a month and disappeared."


"Is the H1N1 swine flu virus the same as human H1N1 viruses?

No. The H1N1 swine flu viruses are antigenically very different from human H1N1 viruses and, therefore, vaccines for human seasonal flu would not provide protection from H1N1 swine flu viruses. "

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 7 months ago

When I start depending on Marion Lynn for accurate information regarding public health issues, I will be chomping on arsenic flakes for breakfast.

Trade routes?!? I think the Chisholm Trail may be out of commission.

Richard Heckler 8 years, 7 months ago

"During an otherwise routine influenza outbreak at Fort Dix, New Jersey in January of 1976, several new recruits were discovered to have become ill with an influenza virus whose origin was apparently pigs, i.e., instead of the then (and now) circulating A/Victoria/H3N2 a few of the many ill soldiers were infected with H1N1 whose origin was pigs. This raised alarm bells at CDC because it was widely believed that the 1918 virus might have retreated into pigs after the mid 1920s and there was a possibility it was now re-emerging into a world where the only effective the immunity was in those over fifty (those born before the 1920s). Some notable flu experts also believed pandemics were on a regular and predictable cycle and we were "overdue for one." Adding to the alarm was a follow-up seroprevalence survey at Fort Dix which suggested as many as 500 soldiers might have become infected, that is, swine flu had gone "human to human." Outside Fort Dix there was no apparent infection. Not yet. If there were to be a pandemic the following flu season, a decision about making a vaccine had to be made immediately. Moreover, because of the gravity of a repeat of a 1918 pandemic, if a vaccine were to be made, it was thought a full-scale vaccine program should be cranked up to vaccinate the entire population (at that time a little over 200 million people)."

Strengthen the Immune Systems.

Time to beef up immune systems with more veggies,fruits,whole grains, beans,seitan, tofu(protein),tempeh a whole food multi-vita and increased doses of C plus rest and exercise.

Stop eating meat unless each animal is being tested by credible sources....some countries test every animal but not the USA. When will america wake up and demand more labeling and testing of animal products? Yes it is up to americans to protect their foods!

Don't let politicians be your guiding light because all they know is what industry lobbyist tell them. THEY can be bought off by the meat industry.

If one must eat meat know your meat sources - buy local!

bearded_gnome 8 years, 7 months ago

if I'm getting my health guidance from lawnmowerman, I'm pretty bad off!

merrill who has a long and notorious history posting on here. nobody takes him seriously.

he obviously just latches on to this topic for his own private little agenda. hmmm, but he never ever does that, now does he?

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 7 months ago


You wouldn't know an H1N1 antigen from a holocaust denier.  Fox News is not a citation.  Your understanding of "trade routes" is absolutely hysterical.

 But you are correct about Merrill.

ddayot 8 years, 7 months ago

Hold on! I'm still waiting to get the bird flu.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 7 months ago

Marion, Trade routes: That is the whole point, Marion. The term is terribly archaic. Everywhere is close to an airport that travels to every other airport. There is no such thing as a route. It is an amorphous whole. But boy you sure try. Unsuccessfully. And no, I do not consider networks that create and hype events like tea-bag day, to be a news source. Nor do I listen to those who defend holocaust deniers.

Strike three, Marion.

Bucker00 8 years, 7 months ago

Did I not read somewhere else that Mexico isn't accustomed to flu epidemics? I'm no virologist, but I consider the possibility that since the indigenous folk in Mexico don't get a lot of influenza epidemics/pandemics, that it's possible that their natural immunity to it as a whole may be not so robust? Purely uneducated guess, mind you. But fearmongering does little. Lets see how this plays out first. The last swine flu scare we had did way more damage with bad vaccinations than did the disease itself. Also, the whole avian flu we fretted about a couple of years ago sure didn't kill the millions predicted.

Not that we shouldn't be vigilant, but I sense some overreaction.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 7 months ago

Tin foil hats on! "Obama’s Visit The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obama’s trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported. The newspaper didn’t confirm if Solis had swine flu or not. "

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 7 months ago

Marion, you have quoted on this very LJW forum things and conclusions believed by only the denialists, and you have linked to their web sites for your "source citations." And you know it. Besides, denialists generally don't admit being such.

And that is not the topic of this thread.

But it does say a lot for your inability to grasp basic facts and truth.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 7 months ago

Instead of depending on Marion's 16th century vocabulary, take a geo-spatial look at the cases so far:

bearded_gnome 8 years, 7 months ago

and, Merrill is completely off the edge regarding buying pork, yes. another example where one should never trust what Merrill posts!

one cannot contract swine flu from eating properly cooked pork. again exemplifies Merrill's bizarre prejudices and personal agenda.

boston, I watch fox news, the tea parties, 200 of them across all fifty states, hundreds of thousands of participants. and cnn and msnbc uses vulgar sexual terms to put them down. only serves to show how low-rent cnn/msnbc really are.

real events representing real concern about the direction of this country.

indeed, "trade routes" was a laughably archaic statement! we live in a global village now.

jonas_opines 8 years, 7 months ago

"another example where one should never trust what X posts!"

Fixed that for you, gnome. No need to narrow it down any further.

AjiDeGallina 8 years, 7 months ago

Marion, you referred to the I-70 corridor and that was wrong...if you were a man instead of a racist, you would just say..oops, I goofed...but you are too weak.

Here in Peru they are urging us NOT to go to the states and promising questioning of people who come from infected countries.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 7 months ago

jonas, if you're referring to my post, I was reffing the CDC's own statement released earlier this day, properly cooked pork cannot transmit the swine flu.

BigPrune 8 years, 7 months ago

I hope they are making extra Tamiflu.

Do you know why pig farms smell so horrible?

It's because the farmers feed the pigs cow poop.

Call it something squared. Starts with an "s".

Flap Doodle 8 years, 7 months ago

If your respiratory system has been damaged by things such as log-term cigarette smoking, best get your affairs in order. BTW, we're all gonna die!

Flap Doodle 8 years, 7 months ago

Your nose and mouth are the "Twin Roads to Infection". Avoid breathing through your nose and mouth as much as possible.

Leslie Swearingen 8 years, 7 months ago

barrypenders (Anonymous) says… I hope Obama prints pig flu masks as fast as he printed money for his big corporations. Save us Obama!! Save us messiah!!

Stuff it penders! Not only is this President Obama bashing getting old, but it is highly offensive to me as someone who believes in Jesus as the Messiah. bearded gnome I am a good, practicing Catholic, so don't even bother to lecture me on this. Now, everyone is bashing Katie! Can' we all just get along? NO.

gr 8 years, 7 months ago

"According to USDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, no. Swine influenza viruses are not transmitted by food so you cannot get swine influenza from eating pork or pork products. Eating properly handled and cooked pork and pork products is safe. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160°F kills all viruses."

Marion, "Eating properly handled and cooked pork and pork products is safe", appears to contradicts the previous sentence. The sentence following supports that contradiction. As in, not cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160°F will not kill all viruses. Since the topic concerns swine flu, one would be led to believe that eating meat not cooked to 160°F could cause one to get the virus.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 7 months ago

Can cigarette smoke transmit swine flu?

gr 8 years, 7 months ago

Marion writes:

"Read the entire quote again as you are taking things out of context.

The primary concern in cooking pork is to kill tiny trichnoids, worm-like parasites which can infest swine, otherwise trichcnellosis may result and require treatment."

But, Marion, the topic was swine flu. Not trichnoids.

This is also brought out that you can catch swine flu from improperly handled pork from the following link: Notice on the left where it says "tips for containing swine flu". That means, just like your above reference, the topic is swine flu and not some other topic. In the tips for containing swine flu, it says, "It is safe to eat properly handled pork. Cook it to at least 160 degrees."

Which means it's not safe if not properly handled or cooked 160 degrees meaning you can get swine flu.

Flap Doodle 8 years, 7 months ago

Mr. OCD telling somebody to get help. I LOL.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 7 months ago

Irish hermicleo says: bearded gnome I am a good, practicing Catholic, so don't even bother to lecture me on this.

sorry, its not me babe. its your pope and the bishopric you're arguing with. if they would refuse communion to proabortion politicians who claim to be catholic, their position is clear on support of Obama who supports late term abortion, and infanticide.

buckethead 8 years, 7 months ago

just a very scarry thought... isnt meth brought into this country by the pounds from mexico?

buckethead 8 years, 7 months ago

im pretty sure that universal precautions (proper handwashing) are not followed in alot of meth labs or drug houses. do you suppose any EMPLOYEES MUST WASH HANDS signs are ever posted? maybe someday failure to have a employee handwashing sign posted will be a criminal charge much like the no drug tax stamp. seriously posted.oh,ok....posted with a slight chuckle.

gr 8 years, 7 months ago

Marion suggests: "Swine flu is NOT transmissable by touching or eating pork:,2933,5

From the citation:

“Q: So is it safe to eat pork?

A: Yes. Swine influenza viruses don't spread through food.” "

Is this like mad-deer disease isn't transmissible to cows, but yet cattle herds are being quarantined and everyone is saying, yeah, I BET it isn't transmissible.

So why in the other links, where they are saying how to prevent swine flu, do they say to cook the pork well? And even your quote of, "Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160°F kills all viruses. " Swine flu is a virus, is it not?


How to create a monster virus to decimate humans:

First, you have to introduce something unusual into the mix. I mean, if humans have been evolving for billions of years, they would be immune to most viruses (meaning susceptible humans would have died off long ago).

Second, you have to have a means of spreading this introduced element.

Since most people assume vaccinations work with no hard supporting science nor would they be supportive of hard scientific experiments to support it, this would be the best means of mass introduction. Besides, it's mandatory, forced against people's will, against their choice, in most cases.

Now, just need to figure out how to get something odd.

Let's see.......

If vaccines are blindly accepted, maybe we can work with them. How about incubating human vaccines inside of other animals. By getting living and dead viruses in close proximity to each other, and since viruses are basically just "code", other viruses can "take them up". We get recombination! By mixing different animals and their inherit viruses, we could create a combination to which there is no natural immunity.

Brilliant Igor!

Oh, wait. I guess they already are doing that. CDC experiment: ">>These projected experiments are to be welcomed for 2 reasons; if negative, they may allay some of the hysteria associated with recent predictions of the imminence of a new influenza pandemic, and if positive, they might facilitate prediction of the likely antigenicity of avian-human virus hybrids and accelerate rational vaccine design. - Mod.CP]<<" How about a human-dog virus: "it foreshadowed later use of cows, guinea pigs, rabbits, and even chicken eggs in vaccine production. However, this breach of the species barrier also made many people wary of and sometimes hostile to the idea of consciously introducing foreign animal products into their own bodies."

Or how about monkey pox?

Lovely! Let the deaths begin!

Katara 8 years, 7 months ago

snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

Your nose and mouth are the “Twin Roads to Infection”. Avoid breathing through your nose and mouth as much as possible. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh well, then, Marion needn't worry about facemasks. We all know which orifice he breathes out of.

Somebody sneeze in Mexico! Shut the United States down!

Flap Doodle 8 years, 7 months ago

TOB, Nick's not been as entertaining today as when he goes off on his interwebs knowledge.

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