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Biden says Bush didn’t lead, Rove says VP lies

April 11, 2009

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— Vice President Joe Biden said he gave then-President George W. Bush an earful in the Oval Office. Former Bush adviser Karl Rove says Biden’s version of that encounter is at best an exaggeration — at worst a lie — and part of a pattern.

“It’s a habit he ought to drop,” Rove said.

The tit-for-tat between Biden and Rove illustrates both the vice president’s colorful way of retelling stories and Bush-era aides’ effort to protect their former boss. The pair tussled during media interviews this week in a political game without an obvious goal: The unpopular Bush is gone from Washington and Biden operates under President Barack Obama.

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jmadison 5 years, 9 months ago

Didn't Biden have to drop out of the 1988 Presidential race due to plagiarism?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

I'll take a VP with a penchant for exaggeration over one who lives in a bunker and directs kidnappings, assassination squads and torture mills.

Centerville 5 years, 9 months ago

Just ask Biden to name the date. Every senator has a detailed schedule, backed up on the Senate server. The press is terrified, though, not of someone as laughable at Biden but of his Lord-of-the-Flies supporters.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

Another in a growing list of reasons why Biden should keep his big yap shut. We need leaders now, not bloviating gas bags looking for opportunities to make themselves look like heroes.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

And anyone know the over/under on bozo's "at least it's not Bush" non-sequiturs? Gotta take the over. And hurl.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 9 months ago

I loves the smell of frantic liberal hyperbole in the mornings.

coolhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

Biden - move on, get over it, you won the election - remember. Work in the now and for the future. No on cares about your verbal confrontation with Bush in the past. Quit living in the past and help all of us today. No one cares what your confrontation was about or who won.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 9 months ago

Can we figure out a way to impeach both of them at the same time? Oh, wait, that'd leave Pelosi to take over. Dang.

LiberalDude 5 years, 9 months ago

Karl Rove is perhaps the evilest man in America. I would believe Bernie Madoff before I believed anything that Karl Rove said. Karl Rove should be in jail just like Madoff.

I'm glad Biden chewed out W. he deserved it! This article doesn't list the exchange but I guess Bush told Biden that "he was a leader" and Biden told him "Look behind you Mr. President, because nobody is following you." Funny stuff. I'm so glad that the Bush nightmare is over!

KansasVoter 5 years, 9 months ago

When are Bush, Cheney, Rove, and all of the others in that administration going to be arrested and put on trial for war crimes? I thought that we were supposed to follow the rule of law here in America...but I guess the rule of law doesn't apply to the rich and powerful.

Paul Decelles 5 years, 9 months ago

Why is this news? We already know what Rove thinks of Biden....yawn. Must have been a slow day in the newsroom.

viewfromahill 5 years, 9 months ago

"Biden says Bush didn’t lead, Rove says VP lies"

He said; she said.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

High-larious, bozo. You should really work on improving the content of your own posts before attempting omniscient narration. Baby steps, basement boy.

LiberalDude 5 years, 9 months ago

All of our problems came from the "previous administration" so Obama has to continue to refer to it. Obama is trying to end the "Bush wars" and the "Bush Economic Catastrophy of 2008". We are slowly making progress.

Thank you President Obama and Congress! You are doing a great job!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

Don't worry, jaywalker. I have no intentions of trying to compete with you in your eternal self-puffery.

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 9 months ago

The last I heard, Valerie Plum and her husband were still going after Karl Rove in the courts to try to sue him and others in the administration for revealing her as a CIA agent.

Karl Rove has successfully been able to hide behind his lawyers, Republican friends and fall guys and avoided prosecution.

Valerie Plum's associates in foreign countries may not have been as lucky as they would now be targeted possibly for assassination.

If Karl Rove did this to Valerie Plum then he is possibly guilty of murder, a traitor to his country and a dangerous man who will do anything to anyone to accomplish his agenda.

Remember that when you listen to him lecture Joe Biden and ask yourself how crazy you just might be to believe him.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 9 months ago

"pdecell (Paul Decelles) says… Why is this news? We already know what Rove thinks of Biden….yawn. Must have been a slow day in the newsroom." It's news now because Joe "where's the Scotch?" Biden just dreamed up his tale of lecturing President Bush in the Oval Office for hours.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"Biden just dreamed up his tale of lecturing President Bush in the Oval Office for hours."

Well, whether or not Biden's claim is true, his claim is that he told Bush he was no leader in an exchange that couldn't have lasted more than a few seconds, not hours. Are you catching Biden's exaggerator disease, snap?

http://www.startribune.com/politics/42831652.html

Not that it matters that an inveterate liar like Rove is calling someone else a liar, primarily as fodder for the wingnuts listening to him on Faux News.

bisky1 5 years, 9 months ago

can you imagine biden as potus, pray for obama

LiberalDude 5 years, 9 months ago

Here you go Mr_Nancy. I'm sure this site lists plenty of his lies- http://karlrovesucks.com/

bisky1 5 years, 9 months ago

i will take sarah vs ol joe no connection to reality biden

TacoBob 5 years, 9 months ago

The GOP lost, Dems need to get over it.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"Don't worry, jaywalker. I have no intentions of trying to compete with you in your eternal self-puffery"

??? What exactly are you responding to, bozo? You been nippin' at your mom's sippy bottle again? Talk about a non-sequitur.

"Obama is trying to end the “Bush wars” and the “Bush Economic Catastrophy of 2008”. We are slowly making progress"

The Iraq 'war' has been 'over' for some time now and Obama has not only ramped up the Afghanistan mission, but expanded it into Pakistan. The 'economic catastrophe' has been building for more than fifteen years and only a fool would think it wise to label it a W. creation. And, you feel we're slowly making progress towards fixing this catastrophe .............by tripling the national debt over the next 10 years? Dude, if you're a Jayhawk, I weep for my alma mater.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"?? What exactly are you responding to, bozo? You been nippin' at your mom's sippy bottle again?":

Your self-awareness factor (aside from self-puffery) is quite low. We really didn't require yet another demonstration.

"The Iraq 'war' has been 'over' for some time now"

Are you prescient, or just clueless? Should we take a vote?

"and Obama has not only ramped up the Afghanistan mission, but expanded it into Pakistan."

Yep-- a mistake he will almost surely regret.

"The 'economic catastrophe' has been building for more than fifteen years and only a fool would think it wise to label it a W. creation."

For at least 30, actually. But only a fool could deny that BushCo put her into high gear.

"And, you feel we're slowly making progress towards fixing this catastrophe ………….by tripling the national debt over the next 10 years?"

Clearly, you find great pleasure in jerking off your strawman. Knock yourselves out.

"Dude, if you're a Jayhawk, I weep for my alma mater."

Well, there's nothing left for you to do than huff, and puff, and puff yourself up a little more, is there? (and be sure not to let your strawman/love interest deflate, either.)

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 9 months ago

Biden lied. Bush led. Obama took office Over a cliff Where Bush led us.

JHOK32 5 years, 9 months ago

I agree with Kansas Voter....Bush, Cheney, & the lot need to be rounded up & held accountable for their war crimes....against the enemy & against our own people. 4000 of our kids killed to swell the bankrolls of their big oil buddies. This topic should not just die out.......it needs to be on the minds of every American. The nazi war criminals were prosecuted, How are these people any better? They just hide behind our liberties that were paid for by other people's blood who had no choice in the matter.

labmonkey 5 years, 9 months ago

Bush and Obama will go down as the two of the worst presidents in history creating debt that will ultimately crush the United States. Both used the same tactics of fear to shove through the two most harmful pieces of legislation in our history...the Patriot Act and the so-called Stimilus package.

That said, Bush never gave a flying f**k what the pundits said whereas Obama has to respond to every perceived slight. That puts Bush on a higher leadership plane than Obama.

As bad as Bush, Chaney, and Obama are, Biden only wishes he was half the leader of any of those three. 300 million people, and we choose these morons as our leaders.

LiberalDude 5 years, 9 months ago

"The Iraq 'war' has been 'over' for some time now "

Uhhh... I don't know what world that you are living in but in America where I'm living we are still at war with Iraq and spending millions of dollars there. This is because Bush and the conservatives made us attack Iraq even though they had no WMD's. The Iraq war is not yet over and Obama is finally taking our troops out of there. Thank you President Obama!

Flap Doodle 5 years, 9 months ago

Stalin was big on show trials. I do wonder why Dear Leader Barry is shying away from emulating that aspect of his idol. Perhaps Barry doesn't enjoy the thought of his own skeletons being dragged from their closets when he leaves office.

BrianR 5 years, 9 months ago

The BWR is in full propaganda mode.

jaywalker 5 years, 9 months ago

"Your self-awareness factor (aside from self-puffery) is quite low. We really didn't require yet another demonstration"

Yup. That's what I thought. You're unable to tie the two together either. Shocker.
Self-puffery? Bozo, getting the upper hand on you in these forums conjures up the same level of satisfaction I get from swatting a fly. It's too easy. But nice to know you think of yourself with such import.

-The Iraq 'war' has been 'over' for some time now”

"Are you prescient, or just clueless? Should we take a vote?"

Clueless? You think we're still engaged in a 'war' in Iraq, bozo? You gotta get some sunshine, man.

"But only a fool could deny that BushCo put her into high gear."

No. Only a fool would continue returning to the same vomitous drivel like a dog.

"Clearly, you find great pleasure in jerking off your strawman. Knock yourselves out."

You need serious help, bozo. How is it a 'strawman' by contending that tripling the debt is not proof we're pulling out of this economic disaster? You don't pull yourself out of debt by taking on three times more debt, moron. Seems pretty relevant to me, but I understand mildew poisoning is prevalent among basement dwellers. Again, get out, get some sun.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

"Self-puffery? Bozo, getting the upper hand on you in these forums conjures up the same level of satisfaction I get from swatting a fly. It's too easy. But nice to know you think of yourself with such import."

Puff, puff, puff yourself up.

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