Letters to the Editor

Vaccine risk

September 26, 2008


To the editor:

Flu season is just around the corner, and we will hear quotes from the Centers for Disease Control of 36,000 deaths from flu per year. Just a quick search of the CDC's own Web site will provide educated consumers with the real information. Here is the actual death rate from several years: 1,806 in 2005; 1,100 in 2004; 1,792 in 2003; 727 in 2002; 257 in 2001.

Flu vaccines are not safe or effective; read the manufacturers' package insert. Most of the flu vaccines contain 25 micrograms of thimerosal, a mercury preservative that, according to science, is toxic to tissue cells at a single nanomolar level. Giving mercury containing vaccines to any form of life is insane. But when we promote them for infants, children and pregnant women, it should be criminal.

The cries for better health care ripple through this year's election campaigns. Maybe we should take a page from the 1950s when only a couple of vaccines were given to infants and the United States was ranked second in the world for infant mortality; today we are ranked 41st. Can you name 40 countries with better infant survival rates?

Linda Weinmaster,


farmgal 7 years, 2 months ago

A agree with Linda, flu vaccines are not worth the risk. There are easier ways to avoid getting the flu. I've never gotten the vaccine and I never will. Our government can't do anything right & you're going to believe that these vaccine programs are a good thing and safe?! No thanks, I'll leave the takers on that program to the sheep.

geniusmannumber1 7 years, 2 months ago

""The flu will kill you. "That's a lie! You need to qualify that.""The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as "Spanish Flu" or "La Grippe" the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster. " http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/That's just pulling something out at random.Now, fluoride in the water -- there's a problem. That's why I only drink distilled water, or rain water, and only pure grain alcohol. As human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.

guesswho 7 years, 2 months ago

You can't compare infant mortality rates in the 1950s with low vaccine rates. Vaccinnes, in general, aren't designed to prevent infant mortality rates; but to prevent diseases later on.Polio, anyone?

gr 7 years, 2 months ago

All you sheeple:Why do you think it is right and proper to inject mercury into people's bodies? Some of you are the same who think clean burning coal plants should be banned because they give off mercury. And that terrible horrible thing .... carbon dioxide! Oh no, Mister Bill. Yet, you think mercury directly injected into people is good. Do you see how mixed up you are?

gr 7 years, 2 months ago

"The flu will kill you. "That's a lie! You need to qualify that. Not even the government sponsered ones and witch doctors will even say that.Educate yourself.Vaccination myths: http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.htmlSmall pox risks: http://www.relfe.com/smallpox_vaccine_problems.html"Why I Never Get Flu Shots" http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/11/26/flu-shots-part-two.aspx

gr 7 years, 2 months ago

none2 just said it is better to suffer the effects of mercury than to die.Does anyone else agree?

Weezy_Jefferson 7 years, 2 months ago

I think this crusade is the only thing Linda has.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 7 years, 2 months ago

"Can you name 40 countries with better infant survival rates?"Oooh! another interactive game BLOG...Norwayy

geniusmannumber1 7 years, 2 months ago

1) So you admit you were wrong about the flu not being fatal, I expect.2) In what universe is that website considered factual?

Prairielander 7 years, 2 months ago

Even though Linda asked us to name 40 countries, it looks like it is just you and me, Auntie. My stats list US infant dealths at 6.4/1000.Korea (South) 6.1/1000Go with the "A"

BuffyloGal 7 years, 2 months ago

TRA - we are number two hey! We are number two hey! When did we ever settle for second best in anything, let alone infant mortality rates?

Ragingbear 7 years, 2 months ago

I love uninformed gibberish spouted off and perpetuated by conspiracy theorist.

gr 7 years, 2 months ago

genius, you admit there needs to be qualification, I expect.And what universe do you get your information from? Just denial, but no support? Be a sheeple. Don't urge or force the thinking people to follow you.Vaccines may not have controlled small pox and malaria. DDT did control malaria.Something does smell fishy here.

Jaylee 7 years, 2 months ago

they should go back to when soap wasnt anti-bacterial as well. and if you get a cut or burn, just rub some butter on it! youll be fine!!

Confrontation 7 years, 2 months ago

The first paragraph is interesting. Do you wonder if this LTE writer looks at those yearly statistics and considers that an increase in flu vaccinations for those at risk is the reason the number of deaths is declining?

Polly_Gomer 7 years, 2 months ago

Yes, these wackos come out of the woodwork from time to time.

acg 7 years, 2 months ago

Here here farmgal. I also am not interested in their flu vaccine. I get a cold almost every year. It's no biggie. Rest, fluids and nyquil and it's all good. Why in the hell would I take a voluntary vaccine put out by the federal government when they screw up everything they touch? As far as children's vaccines go, I was seriously opposed to having my kids vaccinated. My husband and I fought about it for two weeks. My daycare provider's son died the day he was vaccinated. Two of my aunt's had babies that died the day they were vaccinated. Of course, all three cases were ruled SIDS, but how do we really know? And how do we know that there isn't some link between the mercury and the increase in autism in our children? Just because some talking head from the FDA says so? Yeah, ya'll go ahead and buy that all you want. No thanks.

Jaylee 7 years, 2 months ago

i definitely was one of the people on that chicken pox party article who agreed the chicken pox vaccine is unneccesary though!! i got chicken pox and it wasnt that bad and i will never get it again. its awesome!!!i wish you could just get all the other diseases once, treat it, then never have it again!! that would be the shiiiiiiiiiiznit! id totally have disease parties all the time. make a disease club and turn this thing into a business you know?

gr 7 years, 2 months ago

"How many people died of measles/mumps/diptheria etc in 1900 compared to today?""The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people "Ok, so you are making a comparison of one time with many other things going on with health than today? They used mercury for most everything in the past. They had more diseases. Why do you want to use mercury today? Do you see there is no connection? But, I suppose you think global warming is related to human activities of the last 30 years, too.Shouldn't people seriously examine the evidence rather than blindly follow something being promoted by those who stand to profit off it? When it's one's health and the health of their children, I think they should seriously investigate whether what they are being told is correct and to their benefit. When someonereports, "The first pediatrician I attempted to share my findings with yelled angrily at me when I calmly brought up the subject.", it doesn't appear to me the ones promoting the injections are very rational. Neither do those of you calling names.http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.htmlWhen it is reported that "The FDA's VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System) receives about 11,000 reports of serious adverse reactions to vaccination annually, some 1% (112+) of which are deaths from vaccine reactions.[1]", that should be something which can be investigated and the truth learned.When it is reported that "In the mid 70's Japan raised their vaccination age from 2 months to 2 years; their incidence of SIDS dropped dramatically." and "Among school-aged children, [measles] outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination levels of greater than 98 percent.[16]" it makes one wonder if vaccines are effective, and if not effective, why take the risk of serious danger?Think of recently with a so called "epidemic" of chickenpox which included those who had been vaccinated. Are vaccines effective or aren't they? If not effective, is it worth the increased risk?"But the clinic's literature contained a contradiction: the chances of a serious adverse reaction to the DPT vaccine were 1 in 1750, while his chances of dying from pertussis each year were 1 in several million."Hmmmm.....

notajayhawk 7 years, 2 months ago

gr (Anonymous) says: "Why do you think it is right and proper to inject mercury into people's bodies?"You mean the same form of mercury responsible for the permanent blindness of millions of people, virtually everyone who has ever worn contact lenses? Oh, wait...Let me rephrase the question - why do you think it's right and proper for millions to die in a flu pandemic, gr?"Shouldn't people seriously examine the evidence rather than blindly follow something being promoted by those who stand to profit off it?"Like Stephanie Relfe, the 'Synergistic Kinesiologist' who operates the website you linked to? Ms. Relfe's site is a commercial site selling her program ($239 for the manuals, $399 for the DVD's) of holistic 'medicine.' Did you cough up the bucks, gr? Sounds like she stands to profit quite a bit from people who swallow her snake oil.I particularly like this page of her website, titled "Our affiliates make $$$"http://www.perfecthealthdvd.com/affiliates.html****autie (Anonymous) says: "I think anti vaccine people are just stupid."Luckily, it's self-canceling. Think of how high the average intelligence level will rise when they, and their poor children, are no longer in the gene pool. (Last words on their gravestone: "I sure showed them they couldn't force me to get vaccinated!")

rtallman 7 years, 2 months ago

Since the question of infant mortality came up here are the facts according to the UN.The numbers listed after the country name are the Infant mortality rate and the under-five mortality rate.Both are deaths per 1000 live births.163 United States 6.3 7.8 164 New Caledonia 6.1 8.7 165 Cyprus 5.9 6.9 166 Brunei 5.5 6.7 167 Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey) 5.2 6.2 168 Cuba 5.1 6.5 169 New Zealand 5.0 6.4 170 Portugal 5.0 6.6 171 Italy 5.0 6.1 172 Ireland 4.9 6.2 173 Canada 4.8 5.9 174 United Kingdom 4.8 6.0 175 Slovenia 4.8 6.4 176 Israel 4.7 5.7 177 Netherlands 4.7 5.9 178 Luxembourg 4.5 6.6 179 Australia 4.4 5.6 180 Austria 4.4 5.4 181 Denmark 4.4 5.8 182 Germany 4.3 5.4 183 Spain 4.2 5.3 184 France 4.2 5.2 185 Belgium 4.2 5.3 186 Korea, South 4.1 4.8 187 Switzerland 4.1 5.1 188 Czech Republic 3.8 4.8 189 Finland 3.7 4.7 190 Hong Kong 3.7 4.7 191 Norway 3.3 4.4 192 Sweden 3.2 4.0 193 Japan 3.2 4.2 194 Singapore 3.0 4.1 195 Iceland 2.9 3.9

rtallman 7 years, 2 months ago

The idea that vaccines containing themerosal are not good for people and in particular infants isn't uninformed gibberish spouted off and perpetuated by conspiracy theorists.In March of this year CDC Director Dr Julie Gerberding appeared on Dr. Sanjay Gupta's CNN show, House Call, and explained that vaccines can trigger autism in a vulnerable subset of children.If we can' trust the director of the CDC who can we trust.

gr 7 years, 1 month ago

"Sounds like she stands to profit quite a bit from people who swallow her snake oil."So, are you saying if anyone stands to make money, the knowledge is wrong? Excellent! What about the drug companies? Have you considered LJW's web site? Does that mean your comment has no merit because it's on a site to make money?But, you say, oh, that's different."Your religion blinds you to the truth. That is very sad."What does religion have to do with not wanting to be harmed or killed?Why can't you give evidence that vaccines are effective, that mercury doesn't harm, that people are dying from the flu and are prevented from the flu vaccines being offered?For those promoting small pox vaccines being effective, consider asking if cases of small pox have dropped in countries where they don't vaccinate. If just because the U.S. vaccinates makes the whole world immune regardless of whether they are vaccinated or not, let's just vaccinate the ilk of XD40, and let the rest of us benefit from his harm.Why do people worry so much whether others are vaccinated? How does their choice to be vaccinated or not harm your vaccination status?

Deja Coffin 7 years, 1 month ago

Australia? Oh no, wait, the whole dingoes eating babies thing.....dang!!!

gr 7 years, 1 month ago

XD40,The CDC doesn't even recommend the flu vaccine except for certain at risk groups.You are missing the point about small pox. Why is it no longer a threat? How did we "wipe it out" if not all countries vaccinated for it? How could it possibly be eliminated due to vaccines, then?"People who choose not to be vaccinated risk getting preventable diseaes and exposing those with compromised immune systems to further disability and death. Being un-vaccinated is extremely anti-social,"How so? If people who don't wish to be exposed, and buy into your propaganda, get vaccinated, how could those who aren't vaccinated expose vaccinated people to any risk? You aren't saying vaccinations aren't really effective as we saw from the chickpox issue, are you? And as far as exposing themselves to risk, why not let them make that decision. People make lots of risky decisions. Aids would stop if people didn't make poor choices. Do you believe in freedom of choice?By the way, are you saying the agricultural concept of having a "refuge" area where non-resistant varieties are required to be planted next to resistant ones in order to prevent insect resistance from building up is not correct? Are you really trying to create more resistant bacteria and viruses by putting high selection pressure on them? Are you against evolution?

gr 7 years, 1 month ago

"This is science. Not emotion."You do present lots of emotion. But what science do you present? Do you deny the science of the refuge crop concept? Since you never addressed it, we can only conclude you don't want to acknowledge it or haven't a clue.Here's some help: http://www.bt.ucsd.edu/crop_refuge.htmlXD40, you are rejecting the idea mercury is bad because some link says that there is no evidence low doses of mercury has caused autism or harm. Is mercury bad or isn't it? Just because there have not been "convincing" evidence, does that mean you should continue to inject it?29 September 2008 at 11:06 a.m.: "Last years flu outbreak here in Kansas was very serious. The mortality rate among young, otherwise healthy but unvaccinated adults was shocking to those of us who follow such things. By young adults, I'm talking about 18 to 35 year olds. One of whom, I knew personally."7:03 p.m: "Do you know the current risk groups for the flu vaccine? How about children 6 mos to 18 yrs; ALL healthcare workers; everyone over the age of 65 yrs. For everyone else, its 'recommended'."Ok, what am I missing here? I do know I'm missing that last year's "flu outbreak" even existed."The destruction of small pox was because we did vaccinate world-wide against it."Oh? Do you have a supporting reference? I have supporting reference that it was not world-wide: http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.html Under Myth #3. I also can think for myself. It would be highly improbably to vaccinate the whole world.But, I agree, there was a big promotion in attempting to vaccinate the whole world:http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/July2002/Smallpox7.htm"The worst smallpox disaster occurred in the Philippines, after 10 years (1911-1920) of a compulsory U.S. program which administered 25 million vaccinations to its population of 10 million.""Public education" by vaccine producers and their supporters always omits self-incriminating facts."Take a look at some images from CDC of those who DID get vaccinated: http://www.bt.cdc.gov/Agent/Smallpox/VaccineImages.aspDon't forget to look at what if someone close to you gets vaccinated:http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/close-contacts.aspSounds like getting vaccinated "is extremely anti-social"!And especially don't forget to read http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/reactions-vacc-public.aspFunny they say 1000 out of 1 million will experience a "serious" reaction. Unless my math skills fail me, that is the same as 1 out of 1000.Sores on your genitals or face. Sometimes all over. Blindness. Or more "rarely" (hmmm?): Widespread eczema or atopic dermatitis. Ongoing infection of skin with tissue destruction frequently leading to death. Inflammation of the brain."it is estimated that between 1 and 2 people out of every 1 million people vaccinated may die"

gr 7 years, 1 month ago

Are you familiar with the VAERS reporting system? Here's a summary:http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/stats.htmlOr you can search specific case yourself: http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.htmlI put in vaccination date for the year 2007, life threatening, and flu vaccine.Quite interesting. And you are promoting such harm.Shame on you!I'm not saying people should not have the option. If that's what they want to risk, that's their choice. However, you want to take that choice away and force people. Without the science to back it up.

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