Archive for Thursday, October 16, 2008

Informed votes

October 16, 2008


To the editor:

For those who long ago decided to forego Dolph Simons' Saturday "commentary" and/or that of his doppelganger, Cal Thomas, let me sum up the Oct. 11 columns: Although we can still not be clear about Sen. Obama's "beliefs" we do know that he is a socialist with nefarious ties to terrorists and the "activist" ACORN organization responsible for fraudulent voter registration.

This is pretty familiar territory to anyone who has followed the xenophobic fear-mongering of the recent McCain campaign. However, Simons seems most concerned about newly registered voters who lack the knowledge to make an informed decision in the voting booth (i.e., to vote for McCain).

It is ironic that Simons should cite voter competence as a drawback to universal suffrage since this was the rationale used to disenfranchise black voters as recently as presidential candidate Obama's childhood years. In fact, the majority of the newly registered voters have undoubtedly grasped that this is an important election and that they can play a part in ending a most disastrous eight years.

Simons should not question the judgment of others in exercising their democratic right to vote; if we could deny this right in cases of dubious understanding of the causes of and potential solutions to our country's current mess, Simons' name would be at the top of my list.

Mark Holter,


rtwngr 9 years, 8 months ago

"Sen. Obama's "beliefs" we do know that he is a socialist with nefarious ties to terrorists and the "activist" ACORN organization responsible for fraudulent voter registration.'That pretty well sums it up.

temperance 9 years, 8 months ago

Bush just partially nationalized our banking system and engaged in the biggest federal intervention in the economy since the Great Depression -- and we're still being lectured by the so-called conservatives about the dangers of "socialism?" It's so cute! The lack of self-awareness and sense of irony is, quite simply, adorable.

Ragingbear 9 years, 8 months ago

Anyone ever stop and think that the capitalistic society that we have now does not work? We are a nation founded and ran on debt. It is not working. Maybe a bit of socialism and moderation is exactly what we need.

temperance 9 years, 8 months ago

Hugo Chavez refers to Bush as his "comrade" because of recent Republican socialism. Good times . . .,21985,24505898-5005961,00.html

TheYetiSpeaks 9 years, 8 months ago

Idiotic Americans is precisely the reason why neither candidate says anything of value in three debates. Both candidates are more worried about making a good soundbyte that idiot American will see on the 10 o'clock news. Both campaigns spew nothing but crap and its all our faults because, like Jack Nicholson said, "We can't handle the truth." Or more likely we wont understand it.

Maddy Griffin 9 years, 8 months ago

I can't believe you guys." nefarious ties to terrorists, and ACORN resposible for voter fraud".And you call yourselves informed voters!! Jump off the spin machine and realize that the politics of fear is working.

tolawdjk 9 years, 8 months ago

Three weeks to election day and the only rallying cry I hear from Republicans is that I shouldn't vote for the other guy.It's not "McCain: Change is Coming" it more like "McCain: He's not Obama."No one has ever won an election on a platform of "I'm not the other guy."

David Omar 9 years, 8 months ago

You have a great point there Yeti, if we really want to get into truth, there are people who will turn away because they only want to hear what they want to hear. This is the risk in a demcracy. Everyone has a choice and because not everyone thinks about their choice, it is lost on making the wrong choice.As I watched the debates last night, I caught myself watching the body language of the candidates and not listening to what they are saying because their automatic body language responses are what the people of the world will watch. To listen patiently and respond diplomatically can be the most important thing one does in negotiating a peace accord or a decision to go to war. This is called leadership and what I noticed is that only once candidate had the self discipline to keep himself from outwardly responding or reacting. In international politics and statesmanship, holding your hand close to your chest is not a bad trait!

christy kennedy 9 years, 8 months ago

Excellent letter. Thanks for the summary of Mr. Simon's no-surprises-here 10/11 column. I've been sparing myself from reading them lately. As for "voters who lack the knowledge to make an informed decision," that certainly would include most who voted for Bush in 2000 (giving some the benefit of the doubt) and ALL who voted for Bush in 2004. The tactics regarding voters are distinct and painfully obvious. Democrats everywhere have been working hard to register new voters, and in many areas Republicans have been working just as hard at ways to exclude individuals and entire groups of people from the process. Denying American citizens the right to vote is unAmerican and anyone who participates in doing so is straying dangerously close to the views expressed by landowning white males who believed only they should vote, men who believed women shouldn't vote, white Americans who believed African-Americans shouldn't vote. . . And as a campaign strategy it shouts "our candidate can't win on his/her own merits." I mean, really.As for socialism? Wall Street and our banking system have taken the lead there. God forbid we should do the same thing for families or sick children!

smarty_pants 9 years, 8 months ago

I sort of remember reading Marx in college. Didn't he say that capitalism would eventually turn into socialism? Isn't that what's happening now with all the bailouts around the world?

nomorebobsplease 9 years, 8 months ago

Christy - great post! I laughed out loud when I read the first paragraph - too true!Temperance - thanks for the link...enjoyed that read alsoAutie - great quoteMcCain was more animated than I have seen before. Certainly the debate was more entertaining than the last 2. Although it still wasn't as fun as the Vice-Prez debates.....I didn't HEAR anything new, but it was interesting to watch as McCain seemed to get frustrated with his inability to get a rise out of Obama. You are right Mimi's friend....facial expression and body language were screaming out loud last night!!!

towanda54 9 years, 8 months ago

Oops, is that John McCain in this video saying how wonderful ACORN and others are? Surely not.

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