May 21, 2008
Advertisement
Back in 1995, when most of the world was just learning the ins and outs of e-mail, Sandra Bullock’s Angela Bennett was ordering pizza online in the opening moments of the Web-based thriller “The Net.”
Sitting in the theater, that seemed like an implausibility, even when her modem-happy character is shown chowing down in front of her monitor minutes later.
These days, though, online ordering is becoming increasingly popular, and companies like Papa John’s are reaping the rewards. Earlier this month, the nation’s third-largest pizza chain hit $1 billion in sales online, seven years after launching its the online ordering program.
Ivan Albers, general manager of the Lawrence Papa John’s, 918 Miss., says that being in a town with a Web-savvy population has allowed about 25 percent of the restaurant’s sales to come in online.
“We ... send hundreds of pizzas out because of the Internet,” Albers says. “I think it definitely helps, it helps get more business in. I think that pizza places that don’t have online probably, you know, don’t reap the benefits of it.”
Caught in the Web
Other companies with less-established online services definitely do want their piece of the pie. Of the 18 restaurants in Lawrence that serve mainly pizza, eight of them have online ordering capabilities. Other restaurants, including Jimmy John’s Gourmet Sandwiches and Chipotle Mexican Grill, also offer some level of online ordering service.
But most of those restaurants don’t see the volume of online orders that Albers sees at his store.
Seth Mowe, general manager of Pizza Hut, 934 Mass., says that “on a good day” 5 to 7 percent of the restaurant orders come in online. At Wheat State Pizza, 711 W. 23rd St., store manager Joe Scholz says his online orders amount to “just at couple to a dozen a day.” And Bill Longmire, owner of Pizza Shuttle, 1601 W. 23rd, says “about 99.8 percent” of the restaurant’s orders are taken over the phone.
“The Wall Street Journal said that Papa John’s and Pizza Hut, their online ordering was tremendous. We don’t really see that,” Longmire says. “Not to say that they’re wrong — I don’t doubt that they’re right — but our Web site is relatively inactive. It’s been up for quite some time. We really don’t see a tremendous input. That is not to say that we’re not going to begin pushing it, you know, we have not tried to drive sales through our Web site.”
Troubleshooting
No matter how many are coming in, Web-based orders can have their drawbacks. Most smaller companies don’t have a slick online ordering system like Papa John’s. Whereas Albers says online orders free up the phone and just pop up in the computer system, “just like if we had taken the order over the phone,” other companies have a much less user-friendly system in place.
Ben Manley, general manager of Jimmy John’s, 922 Mass., says that in the world of sandwiches, an order is much easier to take over the phone than spit out of a fax — that’s how the store gets its online catering orders. An online order goes from the customer to a corporate office, and then the office faxes the order to the appropriate store. The system takes the ease out of ordering, Manley says.
“It’s easier to write a delivery ticket out manually than it is to receive a fax,” Manley says. “It’s 10 times easier to do anything over the phone at Jimmy John’s than it is to do it online.”
Also getting orders through the fax is Scholz of Wheat State Pizza. He doesn’t mind the hassle, though, as he believes it is helping Wheat State find new customers.
“The order that the customer puts in goes to another party and then they fax it to our store and then we have to enter it ourselves by hand,” Scholz says. “So it’s not that convenient at this point but it is getting us some new customers, I’m pretty sure.”
Jobs vs. computers?
Longmire, the owner of Pizza Shuttle, says that a few new customers are not worth the number of jobs he says are destroyed by online ordering. From a business point of view, fewer employees to pay, thanks to an automated system, can mean more profit, but Longmire sees it as just hurting the people of Lawrence.
“We have 50 employees that work here,” Longmire says. “We probably have 15 to 20 that would qualify as full-time. And if we began driving sales exclusively through Internet, we could probably reduce our head count by 20 percent. But we would also reduce the number of people that lived in Lawrence, that worked in Lawrence, paid money in Lawrence by 20 percent. And many of those kids are students, so do we want to do that? No. And that’s one of the reasons we have not rushed to drive sales to it. Because in the end, it doesn’t increase your sales, it really doesn’t. Nobody increased their sales as a result of the Internet, all they do is decrease their cost.”
Albers says that any jobs lost because of Papa John’s popular online ordering program have been replaced with jobs running the online ordering system.
Longmire says that’s not enough for him. He’d rather keep his employees in house than employ others elsewhere.
Says Longmire: “We would prefer to keep our head count higher and have people and employees rather than you know, just (using) a computer.”
Top ads RSS
- MWI Veterinary Supply Co. seeks warehouse workers to pick/pack/ship in ...
- CASE MANAGER needed. Requirements include bachelor’s degree, human services experience, ...
- Get on Board! Now training School Bus Drivers and Attendants! ...
- MEDICAL BILLING & COLLECTIONS SPECIALIST Lincare, leading national respiratory company, ...
- Lube Tech *Great benefit package *Competitive pay plan *Opportunity for ...
Marketplace
Arts & Entertainment · Bars · Theatres · Restaurants · Coffeehouses · Libraries · Antiques · Services
- One of two murder charges dropped against Del. Street shooting suspect July 2, 2008 · 34 comments
- Suspect in KU student's death commits suicide while in New Jersey police custody July 5, 2008 · 74 comments
- Former GOP Sen. Helms dies at 86 July 5, 2008 · 28 comments
- Motorists, cyclists share responsibility July 6, 2008 · 10 comments
- On the record July 6, 2008 · 2 comments
- Trading for fuel-efficient car may not save you money July 6, 2008 · 4 comments
- Body found on train tracks July 5, 2008 · 58 comments
- Armed robbery reported at home on Delaware Street July 4, 2008 · 37 comments
- How does God view the killing of animals? July 5, 2008 · 24 comments
- Fewer swimmers surface at outdoor aquatic center July 6, 2008 · 3 comments
- Self provides plenty of leverage on recruiting trail July 6, 2008
- Suspect in KU student's death commits suicide while in New Jersey police custody July 5, 2008
- Big Dub returns July 5, 2008
- KU team to test biodiesel July 6, 2008
- Mackey's life brimmed with friends, family July 5, 2008
- Overcoming obstacles July 6, 2008
- Power play: Kansas companies compete to upgrade electric power grid July 6, 2008
- How does God view the killing of animals? July 5, 2008
- Beasley’s sternum cracked July 5, 2008
- Anatomy of an autopsy: Real forensic work nothing like TV shows July 23, 2006


21 May 2008 at 3:18 a.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
I don't know about the others, but when I went to order from Gumbys the site said they weren't accepting on line orders. Biggs had a menu that I couldn't get to. Same with others.
Pizza Hut would be useful, but the system wants us to create a password, that even after 12 tries, they said it wasn't “secure” enough. People, if I can't remember the code to use the account, I'm not going to order from you!
You have lost over $100 in sales this last month, no kidding.
I'm not keeping a rolodex of restaurant passcodes!
Pizza Shuttle needs to accept credit cards.
21 May 2008 at 8:18 a.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
c_dubya (Anonymous) says…
I use Pizza Hut online ordering all the time. I think I just used my last name with a '1' at the end for a password and told Internet Explorer to save it. It's really not that complicated to set up. You still have to re-enter your credit card if you use that to pay but typically I use cash so the driver doesn't have to report the tip if s/he doesn't want to.
21 May 2008 at 8:33 a.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
oldvet (Anonymous) says…
“We have 50 employees that work here,” Longmire says. “We probably have 15 to 20 that would qualify as full-time.”
“He’d rather keep his employees in house than employ others elsewhere.”
Until, that is, the new minimum wage hikes kick in and he sees his labor costs climbing… then the online system will be implemented…
21 May 2008 at 8:33 a.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
PeteJayhawk (Anonymous) says…
Moral of the story: Don't eat at Gumby's.
21 May 2008 at 11:38 a.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
robdew (Anonymous) says…
Papa Johns online ordering system is anything but “slick”.
Who wants to create an account online just to order a pizza? It also was hit with the ugly stick quite some time ago and never recovered.
Stick to baking.
21 May 2008 at 3:10 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Multidisciplinary, weren't you a poster who was complaining about the high cost of groceries?
21 May 2008 at 4:01 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
HighScore (Anonymous) says…
I hate being placed on hold when making an order over the phone. It seems as though I am on hold for an eternity. If I am looking to make an order from a chain shop I will always look online first to see if there is a method for online ordering. I make all my orders from Papa John's and Pizza Hut online. If you order online you can search around and find some great online coupons and daily specials.
If creating a user name and password that you can remember is the biggest problem you have noticed in online orders then it sounds as though the system works pretty well. How difficult is it to remember a password?
21 May 2008 at 8:45 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
themiddlechild (Anonymous) says…
Domino's Pizza: Thank you for calling Domino's, can you hold please.
Yep, I hate being put on hold, especially when ordering food and when I am hungry.
21 May 2008 at 9:02 p.m.
Suggest removal
Permalink
Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Multidisciplinary, weren't you a poster who was complaining about the high cost of groceries?
–––-
I think it was more offering current prices I experience.
I seldom order out on my own, but sometimes others come over and we place an order.
Also, being disabled and very often not able to go to the store, you'll find that over time I've consumed about every odd thing left in the house. [Seriously]
For instance, a bit over a week ago, I was frying dough, because flour, water and salt were the only things I had to mix together.
I'm sometimes forced to order out, as I can't always shop for myself. I have learned that I can order certain items from a chinese restaurant, use a coupon, no delivery charge,
(but I still tip the driver) and split the food to last for 4 days..as cheap as I can buy food at the store.
It's also healthier than busting up old lasagna noodles to boil with some old chicken bouillion and pepper, which I am also now out of.