Archive for Friday, June 6, 2008

Verifiable votes

June 6, 2008


To the editor:

The film "UNcounted." shown June 2 at Liberty Hall deserves our attention. Voting irregularities in the last three national elections are more than incidents to "just get over."

Our democracy requires that we have confidence every vote will count!

Since the 2000 election, we've had fragments of information about what happened in Florida. Voting discrepancies and irregularities occurred elsewhere and since then as well, but few of us have put it all together.

"UNcounted" puts together information about the undocumented, unverifiable computer results along with an array of other voting irregularities. Just as, if not more, significant has been the passive media behavior. Media executives discouraged, even prevented, informing the public about the extraordinary nature of voting irregularities.

"UNcounted" brings the irregularities together with convincing certainty that the outcome of the 2000 presidential election was rigged as were elections in 2002, 2004 and 2006. Now the same corporate and political influences are in position to repeat in 2008.

More than a Democratic or Republican issue, voting irregularities is an issue for our democracy. What the Republicans were able to do so successfully this past decade, the Democrats have done in the past and could do again with similar distorted results.

"UNcounted" is a film worth viewing and taking seriously. It is imperative that citizens insist that every computer vote has paper documentation and that every vote cast will be a vote that is counted!

Our democracy must be able to assume that each of us will have confidence that our vote will count!

Forrest and Donna Swall,


repaste 9 years ago

Few "dead people" or multiple votes will have no impact on tallies. Com[puter voting opens up a whole new aspect to election validity. Ever have an issue with your computer? Feel confidant that a programer somewhere could not manipulate at his/her will?

cato_the_elder 9 years ago

To the letter writers: Our nation was not conceived as a "democracy," although I'm sure you would prefer that it had been. Our nation was conceived as a democratic republic. There is a substantial difference, but learning about that, or anything else of significant intellectual value, is usually not part of what is considered important in the KU School of Social Welfare.

jlw53 9 years ago

Maybe the Swalls should concentrate on having their party count all the delegates in Denver first. Their party can't even seem to get those votes straght, much less an actual election.

Flap Doodle 9 years ago

Remember what they say in Chicago, "vote early and often".

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years ago

"If the republicans rigged the 2006 election, they sure did a crappy job!"Sometimes there corruption can't overcome their incompetence.

acg 9 years ago

Bozo, seems you touched a nerve with justfornow. He/she probably didn't like the content of your post and just like a true republican d-bag, the typical response comes spewing from his vapid head.

Tony Kisner 9 years ago

I have not seen the movie but I would guess that the rigged 2000 election means the GOP cheated. But to follow that statment with the following elections were also rigged makes little sense with the Dems clearly winning both houses?

BigPrune 9 years ago

Today they have these voting irregularities down to a science so the new Messiah Barack Hussein Obama is assured victory.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years ago

Thanks for the advice (not sure what it has to do with this thread) justfornow. But I have several hobbies, this being one of them, and a job.Just curious, though, do you have any opinions on voting and elections?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years ago

"and somehow: 'all of the irregularities' just started happening in the past administration: Never before in the history of mankind we have had such problem:"You obviously didn't read the letter if you believe that's what was asserted.Yes, there have been problems with election fixing ever since there have been elections. But the simple fact is that it's been the policy of Rovian Republicans to meddle with the conduct of free and fair elections going clear back to Rove's College Republican days.

notajayhawk 9 years ago

"Since the 2000 election, we've had fragments of information about what happened in Florida. Voting discrepancies and irregularities occurred elsewhere and since then as well, but few of us have put it all together."I hate to mention this to the LTE writer, but the exact same irregularities have been going on since people have been holding elections. The 2000 presidential race in Florida just drew attention to the issue because of the closeness of the race. I believe several thousand 'irregular' votes were discarded in the previous presidential election as well, this is hardly an issue that arose in 2000 and "since then."And nobody ever likes to face the fact that recount after recount after recount in Florida after the 2000 election clearly showed that there was no way for Gore to win unless the over-votes were counted. I guess the LTE writer means that every vote should be counted - twice.But I do wonder how the LTE writer feels about the Michigan and Florida Democratic primaries.*****repaste (Anonymous) says: "Few "dead people" or multiple votes will have no impact on tallies."Remind me again how many votes decided the 2000 presidential race?

SettingTheRecordStraight 9 years ago

I think the Swalls are refering to the 2000 election when polls remained open in inner city St. Louis past 9 and 10 p.m. Maybe they're referencing Wyandotte County, KS where dead people wind up voting as do "residents" of houses that don't exist.Andy they're almost certainly against politicians calling for recounts only in selective counties. Such schemes are designed to do nothing more than change the outcome of elections.And they're probably in favor of the commonsense suggestion that all voters show valid photo ID in order to cast a ballot in state and national elections.

blessed3x 9 years ago

If the republicans rigged the 2006 election, they sure did a crappy job!

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