Letters to the Editor

Majority rule

July 17, 2008

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To the editor:

In his column in the July 12 Journal-World ("GOP must earn congressional approval"), Cal Thomas asked the right question, but gave the wrong answer.

In spite of the fact that the Democratic-controlled Congress receives a pathetic 9 percent approval rating and a majority of voters think Congress is doing a poor job, a majority of Americans favor a Democratic candidate over a Republican for Congress. "How can that be?" asks Thomas. "What an outrage."

Well, the real reason for this apparent disconnect is that the American public has figured out why Congress has not been able to "get 'er done."

The U.S. Senate is the only legislative body in the world in which a simple majority does not prevail. It takes a two-thirds majority to override a presidential veto or stop a filibuster. In spite of the appearance of Democratic control, the Republicans are still calling the shots. Nine Republicans have to join the Democrats before the Senate can start to make progress on the change that was mandated in '06.

Since the Republicans took control of Congress in 1994 and the White House in 2000, Republicans have been able to turn their agenda into U.S. policy on energy, education, the economy, the environment and national security.

I don't think those policies will change until there is a Democrat in the White House or a two-thirds Democratic majority in the Senate, or both.

Tim Hamill,
Lawrence

Comments

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

  1. McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were "too tilted to the wealthy." By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.35. McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.36. McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a "'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement, in that I will not raise taxes."37. McCain has changed his entire economic worldview on multiple occasions.38. McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.Energy Policy39. McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling ; now he's against it.40. McCain recently announced his strong opposition to a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.41. McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to voluntary.42. McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.43. McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn't.Immigration Policy44. McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now he's against it.45. On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.46. In April, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders "before proceeding to other reform measures." Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that he'd never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his "top priority."

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Supply side economics? That theory died in 2003. What year was your link from?Do you want to read the 2004 Congressional Budget Office report?http://www.ndol.org/documents/03-25-AnalysisPresidentBudget-Final.pdfOr do you want to a newspaper article from the uber-liberal Wall Street Journal?`Dynamic' Scoring Finally Ends Debate On Taxes, Revenue, Wall Street Journalhttp://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/882137/posts

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

Jhwk2008:"1) I don't think they would have taught that in Econ 102, and2) If they did, did you fail Econ 102?"Obviously you have never taken any sort of Econ class. Have you never heard of supply side economics? Here is something for your education. http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/SupplySideEconomics.html

jaywalker 6 years, 8 months ago

jhwk2008:Salad blathered, "rich people got the tax cut, mine stayed the same"Yes, I'm very familiar with the AMT, it's just not applicable for this discussion.

fu7il3 6 years, 8 months ago

All of you people are exactly what is wrong with the political system. 30% liberal, 30% conservative. That leaves 40% moderate. The majority, who are largely unrepresented because every democrat is labeled as liberal, every republican is labeled conservative.Everyone is so worried about showing loyalty to their party or to what their wing of beliefs is that no one is willing to look at that other 40 percent and represent them. We could get things done by giving a little and taking a little and meeting in the middle, but no one is willing to do that. So every vote goes down party lines, plus/minus a few votes.Our political system is stagnant because our party system is suffocating it. Liberal and conservative partisanship will be the death of democracy.It's always the other guy's fault. It's all of their faults. Now suck it up, find common ground, and fix it.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

jaywalker (Anonymous) says:"Since the Bush admin. lowered the federal tax rates, if you're paying MORE taxes then you need to get somebody else to do them for ya. You could be paying more taxes if you were making more money, but you say you're making less money. Demoted?"Actually, it's called the AMT, the alternative minimum tax. Specifically, the AMT threshold is not indexed for inflation so that over time, the real income threshold declines and the fraction of taxpayers subject to the AMT rises over time.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 8 months ago

Typical liberal propaganda: Face it: When gloating about W's approval rating in the 30's, just remember "NINE percent': which is the approval rating of the Democratic Led Congress: On both chambers! What an stellar job these clowns are doing!First, the President's ratings are in the very low 20's, not 30 percent. Second, just because the Congressional ratings are lower does not mean it is anti-Democtratic Party sentiment. The disgust may simply reflect the feelings toward the remaining Republican Party members of Congress. Something, I suspect, that will be remedied by our upcoming election.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

OK, one last time Satirical. Let me change your argument."(1) Many of [Obama's] changes in his position are due to changes in the situation (he is open-minded) unlike [McCain] whose changes are due to political expediency (to get elected).(2) [McCain] tries to sell himself as [a] candidate of change, when his continual political maneuvering clearly shows he is just a typical political thus mitigating his perceived advantage (you never contradicted his change in positions)."(Yes, McCain is running on change; he doesn't want to be linked to Bush.) I think both Obama and McCain have altered/changed positions due to political expediency. McCain's have been ignored though.Can you explain why:1) McCain voted against a bill he co-sponsored? The DREAM Act2) McCain blocked a bill with his name on it from a vote in the Senate? Kennedy-McCain Immigration Bill3) McCain supports Supreme Court justices that will rule against a law with his name on it? McCain-Feingold."(3) The fact the McCain has so many alleged shifts only further illuminates the fact that McCain has experience, whereas Obama has almost no experience and is unfit to be the Leader of the Free World, Command-in-Chief and President of the United States of America."What type of experience does John McCain have exactly? Experience in shifting positions?

salad 6 years, 8 months ago

Since the Bush admin. lowered the federal tax rates, if you're paying MORE taxes then you need to get somebody else to do them for ya.Wrong, rich people got the tax cut, mine stayed the same, but all my other taxes have gone up. You obviously live in another country, so you're ingnorant of this fact. You could be paying more taxes if you were making more money, but you say you're making less money. Demoted?Wrong again, in this other country you obviously live in, the economy must be doing better than it is here, where the cost of everything is through the roof, leaving me less money. Not much for raises either. And how, exactly, are you more at risk of a terrorist attack?They must not have news in this other country you live in: the rest of the world HATES us. Plus we have a completely useless new expansion of the govt. called homeland security which just spends money, but doesn't do much protecting. I hope our little time together has helped waft away some of your cluelessness jaywalker, perhaps you and gr could get together and have some kind of "people with an extra chromosome trying to be clever support group." You have my sympathy for your affliction.

drake 6 years, 8 months ago

From the Congressional Budget Office"Over the coming decade, a growing number of taxpayers will become liable for the AMT. In 2010, if nothing is changed, one in five taxpayers will have AMT liability and nearly every married taxpayer with income between $100,000 and $500,000 will owe the alternative tax. Rather than affecting only high-income taxpayers who would otherwise pay no tax, the AMT has extended its reach to many upper-middle-income households. As an increasing number of taxpayers incur the AMT, pressures to reduce or eliminate the tax are likely to grow."From CNN.comwashington (ap) - President Bush demanded Saturday that Congress send him legislation that keeps middle-class Americans from being hit at tax time next year by the dreaded alternative minimum tax. That's not likely to happen anytime soon. Congress has adjourned for the Thanksgiving holiday.The legislation is muddled in the House and Senate. And Bush has threatened to veto any bill that raises taxes as a way of fixing the tax, known in shorthand as AMT.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

How about I do it for you?"John has led the fight for reforming Washington, eliminating wasteful government spending, and strengthening our nation's armed forces." Reforming Washington: failureEliminating wasteful government spending: failureStrengthening our nation's armed forces: even"John McCain's reform agenda to reduce federal spending and lower taxes quickly elevated him to statewide office ..."This sentence doesn't say he actually did anything; it says he had an agenda.Have an agenda: pass"McCain continued to demand that Congress put an end to loopholes for special interests and fix the broken system in Washington that too often allows lobbyists to write legislation and members of Congress to waste taxpayer money."Demand that Congress put an end to loopholes for special interests: 1) Demand: more research required 2) Execution of demand: failureFix the broken in system in Washington that too often allows lobbyists to write legislation and members of Congress to waste taxpayer money: failureSo John McCain accomplished having an "agenda" in the 25+ years he's been in Washington?

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Well, I just went to JohnMcCain.com and the "About John McCain" section. There are a total of eight paragraphs. Have you been there?"John McCain John McCain has a remarkable record of leadership and experience that embodies his unwavering lifetime commitment to service. First elected to the U.S. House of Representatives from Arizona in 1982, John has led the fight for reforming Washington, eliminating wasteful government spending, and strengthening our nation's armed forces.John McCain's reform agenda to reduce federal spending and lower taxes quickly elevated him to statewide office and he was elected to the United States Senate in 1986, after serving two terms in the U.S. House.John McCain In the Senate, John continued to demand that Congress put an end to loopholes for special interests and fix the broken system in Washington that too often allows lobbyists to write legislation and members of Congress to waste taxpayer money. In November 2004, Senator McCain was overwhelmingly reelected with nearly 77 percent of the vote."The final five describe his military service. However, in February 2003, the McCain said "Absolutely not," when asked whether "military service inherently makes somebody better equipped to be commander-in-chief.""Harry Truman was in the artillery in World War I, which was magnificent," he continued. "Ronald Reagan did most of his active duty in the studio lots in California. It might be a nice thing, but I absolutely don't believe that it's necessary."So what is his experience again?

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Or do you want to hear his rape joke?"Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, 'Where is that marvelous ape?'" - John McCain, Tuscon Citizen

drake 6 years, 8 months ago

salad says: "If you're paying lower taxes, and making lots of money in this economy, then you are one of Bushes chosen people, for whom his tax cuts were designed. The rest of the country, like me, pay MORE taxes"Single federal tax rates:If you made $8,000- In 2000 you paid 15%In 2008 it is now 10% $27,000- In 2000 you paid 28% In 2008 it is now 15%.$60,000- In 2000 you paid 28%In 2008 it is now 25%$100,000- In 2000 you paid 31%In 2008 it is now 28%Jaywalker is right- you need a new tax preparer.

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

Jhwk2008:"ROTFL. You're really funny Satirical. (Wait, do actually believe this?) And I'm done here."What a novel tactic. Label an argument as false, but don't give reasons to support WHY it is false (probably because the argument is true), and leave falsely believing you have countered the argument. You are the first liberal to ever use this strategy! (sarcasm intended)

Scott Drummond 6 years, 8 months ago

"Well played. Or were you just being "charitable" by proving bow's point for him?"Remind me again, please, what was the point I made for him? I believe all I said was low Congressional ratings do not necessarily reflect a low opinion of the Democratics with a slim majority. It may simply reflect dissatisfaction that there are still a number of Republicans among the ranks.

Left_handed 6 years, 8 months ago

Mr. logicsound04,I'm not familiar with Faux News. Is it a cable network or an internet organization? Is it French?

chet_larock 6 years, 8 months ago

"This may be why Bush is so unpopularhe actually has core convictions".. suckle at the teet much?I think what jhwk2008 is trying to say is stfu, Ms. Nancy.

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

Jhwk2008:Your posts do not help your position, and in fact does more harm than good (even assuming all your "facts" are true)(1) Many of McCain changes in his position are due to changes in the situation (he is open-minded) unlike Obama whose changes are due to political expediency (to get elected).(2) Obama tries to sell himself as the candidate of change, when his continual political maneuvering clearly shows he is just a typical political thus mitigating his perceived advantage (you never contradicted his change in positions).(3) The fact the McCain has so many alleged shifts only further illuminates the fact that McCain has experience, whereas Obama has almost no experience and is unfit to be the Leader of the Free World, Command-in-Chief and President of the United States of America.

jaywalker 6 years, 8 months ago

Bowhunter begins:"If the Republicans have the majority, then it's their fault.If the Democrats have the majority, then it's the republican's fault"Scott replies:"...., just because the Congressional ratings are lower does not mean it is anti-Democtratic Party sentiment. The disgust may simply reflect the feelings toward the remaining Republican Party members of Congress"Well played. Or were you just being "charitable" by proving bow's point for him?

salad 6 years, 8 months ago

"Gas prices have sky rocketed since Bush took over."fixed

salad 6 years, 8 months ago

malcolm_x_obama (Anonymous) says: "Am I better off now? Of course.My taxes are half of what I used to pay under Clinton's oppressive taxes. Making more money, I'm relatively safe from terrorist attacks (fighting them on their turf)"You are rich! If you're paying lower taxes, and making lots of money in this economy, then you are one of Bushes chosen people, for whom his tax cuts were designed. The rest of the country, like me, pay MORE taxes, make LESS money, and are MORE at risk of a terrorist attack thanks to Bush-Co.

beatrice 6 years, 8 months ago

"... a Democrat in the White House or a two-thirds Democratic majority in the Senate, or both."Sweet, sweet words are these. Thank you Tim Hamill.Bowhunter, have you noticed that the Democrats presently have a majority in Congress with just one seat. One! And that one of the Dem's seats is occupied by John McCain's new best friend Joe Lieberman, whose views on the Iraq war match those of the Republican party to such a degree that he might as well just switch parties. Of course if he did, when the Dems get even more seats in this coming election he would find himself will little to no clout. Once the Dems have a true majority in Congress, only then will we see the approval ratings rise. white-thinker: "McCain has a record 10 times the length of Obama's and comparing them is apples/oranges." True. When you live to be 71 while working in Washington for so long, you get some experiences. Certainly, Obama does not have the experience of having been part of the Keating Five nor the experience of being criticized by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment." Obama also doesn't have the experience of cheating on his wife with a much younger woman, or the experience of divorcing his wife for said younger woman as McCain has. I love how you social conservatives can overlook that little tid-bit with such ease. Obama also doesn't have the experience of being such a close, close friend to George W. Bush, or saying he can see America staying in Iraq for 100 years, as McCain has.No, Obama doesn't have the entrenched Washington bureaucratic experience McCain has. Instead, he has intelligence, and the real-life experience of being a self-made man who is committed to improving life for all here in America, and not just for his lobbyist friends and rich backers. Obama for President!

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

jwhk2008..."So what is his experience again?"Can you not read? The extremely short bio you posted lists some of his experience. I could copy and paste exactly what you just posted if it would help you. And even though you want to omit his military service it is still relevant.As much as you want to shift the focus off Obama's lack of experience, the issue is still there. But my guess is you won't touch that issue because you know Obama doesn't have the necessary experience.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Domestic Policy19. McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)20. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.21. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.22. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.23. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.24. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.25. McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting "irresponsibly." His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.26. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.27. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.28. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.29. McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.30. In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.Economic Policy31. McCain was against Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy before he was for them.32. John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated," and "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should." He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a "very strong" understanding of economics.33. McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

beatrice...Cutting taxes increases government revenue (Econ 102). The wealthiest 10% of Americans pay 80% of the income taxes. But of course a liberal would think they still aren't paying their fair share.

BigAl 6 years, 8 months ago

Mr_Nancy_Boy_To_You (Tom Shewmon) says: More evidence of how easy an adult can be brainwashed by the corrupt media.Thinking for yourself is better, Mr. Hamill.*************I always like this one. Blame the press first. This so called liberal media has let Bushco off the hook time and time again. "Thinking for yourself"....ha. When and if you do that in this country, the right wingers will say that you "hate America first", "don't support the troops" and are part of the "Hate Bush crowd". But, but Clinton.......

Brent Garner 6 years, 8 months ago

And when the republicans had the same slim majority in the senate the democrats used the same rules to block anything they did not like--including massive numbers of judicial appointments. Sorry, sir, but both parties have played this game. It is not unique to the GOP!

jafs 6 years, 8 months ago

The letter is correct.If neither side has the votes necessary to overcome vetoes or filibusters, they will be hampered in accomplishing their goals.This is simply the way Congress works.And, for Marion, the writer of the letter was not criticizing this fact, merely pointing it out, for the benefit of those who criticize the Democratic majority for not doing everything they'd like to do.

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

I think this article is about the worst civics lesson I ever read. First: The legislature is made up of both the Senate and the HOUSE. Second: It requires a 2/3 majority of BOTH to overturn a veto (which was an ingenious decision by the founding fathers).Third: The reason their approval rating is so low is not due to the fact that the libs haven't been able to implement their socialist policies, it is because most can't compromise and turn everything into a political stunt. (Seriously, is oil in 7 years worse than no oil at all!?!). The American people realize many Dems refuse to compromise to get things done and therefore the country's economy and other bad situations get worse, and thus their approval rating is 9%.Fourth: The Republicans were not able to insert most of their "agenda" because the Dems kept filibustering the solutions to this country's major problems, couldn't focus on anything but Iraq, and refused to compromise.

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

Jhwk2008:Changing those names around really convinced me you are right. What a fantastic non-fallacious counter-argument (sarcasm intended). "I think both Obama and McCain have altered/changed positions due to political expediency."The problem is that Obama is the one who claims to be a political outsider (he has convinced people like beatrice), and McCain does not. So while they may both be guilty, it harms Obama more than McCain, because Obama has nothing else going for him.I don't love McCain, and I will not defend him because I disagree with him on several issues, and I wish the Republicans would have nominated a true conservative. But he is a much better alternative to a socialist with no experience."What type of experience does John McCain have exactly?"This is a fallacious response to my argument that Obama lacks experience necessary to be the next President. If you really want to know more about John McCain (you obviously don't) go to http://www.johnmccain.com/

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Anonymous userSatirical (Anonymous) says: "Cutting taxes increases government revenue (Econ 102)."1) I don't think they would have taught that in Econ 102, and2) If they did, did you fail Econ 102?"Economists said Bush was claiming credit where little is due. The economy has grown and tax receipts have risen at historic rates over the past two years, but the Bush tax cuts played a small role in that process, they said, and cost the Treasury more in lost taxes than it gained from the resulting economic stimulus.'Federal revenue is lower today than it would have been without the tax cuts. There's really no dispute among economists about that,' said Alan D. Viard, a former Bush White House economist now at the nonpartisan American Enterprise Institute. "It's logically possible" that a tax cut could spur sufficient economic growth to pay for itself, Viard said. 'But there's no evidence that these tax cuts would come anywhere close to that.'"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/16/AR2006101601121_pf.htmlWhat's next?

jaywalker 6 years, 8 months ago

Salad:"...rich people got the tax cut, mine stayed the same"Then you are the only one in the country. Between '01 and '03 the Bush administration cut taxes for ALL taxpayers. The lowest bracket went from 15% to 10%, and all other brackets went down 2%."The rest of the country, like me, ..., make LESS money..."Later..."in this other country you obviously live in, the economy must be doing better than it is here, where the cost of everything is through the roof, leaving me less money."O.K. brain trust, YOU said you MAKE less money. Making less and spending more are two very different things. If you meant you have less money now because of the economy, then I reckon that's what you should have said."They must not have news in this other country you live in: the rest of the world HATES us. Plus we have a completely useless new expansion of the govt. called homeland security which just spends money, but doesn't do much protecting."What color is the sky in the world you live in? Paint it any way you want, but the rest of the world does not hate us. Grandiose much?As for your ignorant comment concerning Homeland Security, name the last terrorist attack on U.S. soil since its inception. "I hope our little time together has helped waft away some of your cluelessness"Clueless? You think only 'the rich' got tax cuts, you can't even state accurately what you mean to say, think the ENTIRE world hates us, and believe you're now more susceptible to a terrorist attack, all evidence to the contrary. Yeah, I'm clueless. 'Our little time together' has me now mourning the loss of the 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back since I've obviously wasted the time posting to you.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Good one barrypenders, you proved Satirical's point for me. You just inadvertently called McCain "spineless."

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Judicial Policy and the Rule of Law47. McCain said he would "not impose a litmus test on any nominee." He used to promise the opposite.48. McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration's warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.49. McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.Campaign, Ethics, and Lobbying Reform50. McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn't.51. In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving "feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.52. McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.Politics and Associations53. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist John Hagee. Now he doesn't. (He also believes his endorsement from Hagee was both a good and bad idea.)54. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist Rod Parsley. Now he doesn't.55. McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.56. McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.57. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.58. In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.59. McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

beatrice 6 years, 8 months ago

Hey, look at this over here! Why, it is a thing called the national debt. It is now at 9.5 trillion dollars, which is twice as much since Bush moved into the White House! That is a little more than $31,000 for every American. All the while, the dollar is worth half what it was on the world market in this same period. And we are at war!So we better cut taxes for the wealthiest of the wealthy again. How else could we expect someone to afford to buy another $80,000,000 Monet?I sure hope our future generations don't mind us sticking them with our bill.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

  1. McCain decided in 2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image of the 'Straight Talk Express.'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.61. McCain believed powerful right-wing activist/lobbyist Grover Norquist was "corrupt, a shill for dictators, and (with just a dose of sarcasm) Jack Abramoff's gay lover." McCain now considers Norquist a key political ally.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Do you guys not know what the AMT is? It is possible to make less money, yet pay more in taxes. All you've done is state the tax rate tables.

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

Satirical (Anonymous) says: "(1) Many of McCain changes in his position are due to changes in the situation (he is open-minded) unlike Obama whose changes are due to political expediency (to get elected)." ROTFL. You're really funny Satirical. (Wait, do actually believe this?) And I'm done here.

KsTwister 6 years, 8 months ago

True, but with the previous administration I don't think you will find too many people who will tell you they are better off now then 8 years ago; in spite of the reasons Bush gives them.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 8 months ago

Jhwk2008:Wow! Bravo on the inital salvo on McCain's record. However, seeing the record laid out so concisely and all in one place - something never accomplished for some reason in the "liberal" mainstream media, forces me to conclude that McCain must be elected so that we can rid the country once and for all of Republicanism. georgie-boy has crippled the party with his overreaching and ham-handed approach to governance but this tired old man seems well equipped to come in and put the beast out of its misery. Maybe this is why the wing-nut hate him so much. They are on to his secret agenda. Additionally, if McCain is elected there is the likelihood that he'd die in office & I think that would be pretty interesting. bush looks likes he's aged about 30 years in his 7+ years (take a look at some before and now pictures if you want a real shock) so even a single term might be enough for Johnnie.

jaywalker 6 years, 8 months ago

scott,If you can't figure it out there's no reason for me to waste time trying to explain it. Start studying, though, reading comprehension will be important for your SAT's.

jaywalker 6 years, 8 months ago

Salad: "The rest of the country, like me, pay MORE taxes, make LESS money, and are MORE at risk of a terrorist attack thanks to Bush-Co"Since the Bush admin. lowered the federal tax rates, if you're paying MORE taxes then you need to get somebody else to do them for ya. You could be paying more taxes if you were making more money, but you say you're making less money. Demoted? And how, exactly, are you more at risk of a terrorist attack?

jhwk2008 6 years, 8 months ago

John "the Double Talk Express" McCainNational Security Policy1. McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.2. McCain insisted that everyone, even "terrible killers," "the worst kind of scum of humanity," and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, "deserve to have some adjudication of their cases," even if that means "releasing some of them." McCain now believes the opposite.3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country."4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. He's since come to the opposite conclusion.Foreign Policy7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it.8. McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.11. McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.Military Policy14. McCain recently claimed that he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as "a mission accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course." In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.16. McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."17. McCain has repeatedly said it's a dangerous mistake to tell the "enemy" when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.18. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 8 months ago

Jaywalk: I asked because it is not at all apparent from a review of the posts that I made any particular point for Bow. Since you shrink from backing up your assertion with an explanation, I gather there is not much substance to it. Typical.

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

Jwhk2008:I am sorry if you don't understand how the economy works, but when you cut taxes people spend that money which creates jobs, which creates more money, which creates more jobs, etc, etc, etc. This all leads to more taxes since there are more jobs and more people spending money. Tax cuts take away money from an inefficient government and puts it into the hands of the people who earned it, and helps the economy.Interesting how you failed to counter my argument about Obama, so you want to focus on something else, including attacking McCain because you can't defend Obama's lack of experience. You apparently refuse to address Obama's lack of experience and the fact he is just another politician.Even your shotty analysis of some of McCain's goals illustrated where he has succeeded. Also, one must not immediately succeed in order to prove he has experience (and makes good policy decisions). That would be like saying Martin Luther King Jr. never had any experience with social equality because he failed to get complete racial equality in his lifetime. His goal was laudable and he clearly had experience. McCain clearly has experience and the right goals in mind. Thank you for illustrating that point. (another example of how you undermine your own position).

Satirical 6 years, 8 months ago

Jwhk2008:"Do you guys not know what the AMT is? It is possible to make less money, yet pay more in taxes. All you've done is state the tax rate tables."No it is not, it is possible to make more money and pay more taxes, but it is not possible to make less money and pay more in taxes under the AMT. Your argument should read: It is possible by inflation standards to be earning the same amount and paying more. However Bush is not to blame for this, Congress is.

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