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McCain’s VP choice seen as a gamble

Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Republican Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin greet the crowd as McCain introduces Palin as his vice presidential running mate Friday at the Ervin J. Nutter Center in Dayton, Ohio.

Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Republican Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin greet the crowd as McCain introduces Palin as his vice presidential running mate Friday at the Ervin J. Nutter Center in Dayton, Ohio.

August 30, 2008

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What do you think about McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate?

She sounds good to me. I think he’s doing something smart by picking someone who is really pretty different from him politically and also by picking a woman. I think it will be good for his campaign.

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— Win or lose, Sen. John McCain threw the long ball Friday when he stunned the nation by picking Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.

His choice of a young, largely unknown woman from as far outside Washington shakes up the presidential campaign and has the potential either to help him win the White House or to doom his chances.

On the upside, her reputation as a maverick reformer willing to buck her own party magnifies McCain's own renegade image and could help him win independent voters.

Her gender - the first woman ever on a Republican ticket and only the second in history, after Geraldine Ferraro on the Democratic side in 1984 - could help McCain win some women who had supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries but were angry that she wasn't chosen to be Barack Obama's running mate.

The downside: Palin's relative inexperience in office - she served 10 years in the government of a town of 5,400 people and is two years into her first term as governor - undercuts McCain's charge that Obama is too inexperienced to be president.

This choice also could leave those voters who are nervous about McCain's age - 72 on Friday - anxious that he would put a novice a heartbeat away from the presidency, and they could have doubts about her ability to handle foreign affairs or a military crisis.

"She's the ultimate high-risk, high-reward choice," said Peter Brown, the assistant director of the Polling Institute at Connecticut's Quinnipiac University. "She's a game changer either way."

McCain clearly wants her to underscore his own history as an independent thinker who's often willing to challenge his own party, a crucial point as he tries to show voters that he can be different from unpopular President Bush despite his support of Bush's tax and foreign policies.

Palin faces Democrat Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware in the vice presidential debate, a 90-minute face-off Oct. 2 in St. Louis.

Gov. Palin popular among social conservatives

Sarah Heath Palin, 44, is governor of Alaska, mother of five, and a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. She has a strong anti-abortion record, opposes gay marriage and is popular with social conservatives. She lives in Wasilla, a town of 6,500 about 30 miles north of Anchorage, with her husband, Todd, a blue-collar North Slope oil worker who won the 2007 Iron Dog, a 1,900-mile snowmobile race. Here are some highlights of her career:

1987: Graduated with a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of Idaho.

1992-1996: Entered public life, serving two terms on the Wasilla City Council in Alaska.

1996-2002: Elected mayor of Wasilla for two terms. Term limits forced her from office.

2002: Lost her first statewide campaign for the GOP nomination for lieutenant governor.

2002: Frank Murkowski left the U.S. Senate to become governor of Alaska and named Palin chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.

2003: Split with the party leaders by battling Randy Ruedrich, the head of Alaska's Republican Party.

2006: Upset Gov. Frank Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary, then defeated former two-term Gov. Tony Knowles, a Democrat, in the general election.

2007: Pressured lawmakers to get the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act passed, to build a natural gas pipeline to deliver 35 trillion feet of North Slope natural gas to market.

Aug. 29, 2008: Asked to be Sen. John McCain's vice presidential running mate in the 2008 election.

- Source: The Associated Press

Comments

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

that gives barack the "neccesary experience"? giving campaign speeches? barack giving speeches about what he "would" do or what he "wants" gives him some kind of advantage? speak to yourself about blind support. people generally don't vote for VP, but rather the top of the ticket. as Senator Clinton said, " Barack gave a speech". he has no record to point to. what is barack's real resume? Clinton apparently wasn't impressed.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"Yes, nice huh? Every resident gets a rebate every year. Nice that it's a wealthy state, don't you agree?"Depends on your values, Tom. Not all of us worship material wealth. Their money comes from extracting natural resources. Some would consider the harm caused by industries to some of the most beautiful and wild places on this earth to be unforgivable, no matter how rich it made one. God, should you believe in such things, did not create some of those places and creatures for the money changers. But, be that as it may, my point was that it is not terribly difficult to run an executive branch of a government awash in money. Likely that is how they get away with a nobody like this village mayor in the job. The thought of this creationist being a geezer's hearbeat away from the Presidency, however, is simply unacceptable. McCain should demonstrate far more respect for the office. For all of his vaunted effort to portray himself as a "maverick" who will work with a swelled Democratic majority, he has, in fact, followed the same path as george w. bush and made a hard turn to the right with this choice. As I said, unacceptable.

JohnBrown 6 years, 11 months ago

Palin is McCain's first presidential decision.The United States is in two wars, the old Soviet Union is trying to raise itself back up, only this time as a fascist country wielding energy access as its weapon of choice, Al Qeda has sanctuary and is growing, the Taliban are about to surround Afghanistan's capital, and the person McCain wants a heartbeat away from running this country is a self-described hockey mom.This is a cynical move that has Karl Rove written all over it, and proves that McCain puts politics before country.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

I hear Palin once wrestled a grizzly bear, naked, and killed it within minutes. She's my hero.

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

"Why is my user ID toggling back and forth "Nancy/Tom" ???"Flip-flopper

kugrad 6 years, 11 months ago

Bozo, the bear was actually clothed.

BuffyloGal 6 years, 11 months ago

Are you sure choosing McCain isn't the real gamble? Check this one out first.http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

If a running mate is to be selected from the Arctic Circle, McCain wouldhave done better to chose Nanook ( of the North )... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_wS-Li-9eE... much more experienced, much more resourceful.

kansas778 6 years, 11 months ago

It's sad to see sexist comments like frwent's. I guess only a man can have children and be in politics...

Ralph Reed 6 years, 11 months ago

Just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) writes: "I hear Palin once wrestled a grizzly bear, naked, and killed it within minutes. She's my hero."*Bozo, that's a scary mental picture. But, you must admit the grizzly probably was at a disadvantage, being nekid and all.***I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"This was a huge gamble and reeks of pure desperation."I agree on the desperation part, but I don't think it's that much of a gamble. All of the "safe" choices were such bad choices throwing up a hail-mary such as this was probably his best bet.

kugrad 6 years, 11 months ago

Just a coupld of facts about Ms. Palin for your consideration:1. She was a big supporter of Pat Buchannan when he last ran for President.2. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools, this despite the fact that this has been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

chet_larock 6 years, 11 months ago

"If it is bad, then just shut up, and let the damage run it's course"Right back atcha, wingnuts. Talk about an exercise in futility.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

She's a creationist who has asserted that creationist propaganda should be taught in public schools alongside science. She's under investigation for using the official powers of the state to get back at an ex-spouse of a family member. Is she worthy of being trusted with george bush's spying powers?These two reasons alone should disqualify her. McCain had numerous individuals to chose from who are eminently more qualified to serve, competently, as President. Who is putting his own campaign interests ahead of the country's interest with this hail mary effort?

KRITIKOS 6 years, 11 months ago

How does 10yrs, 2 terms on the city council,2 terms as mayor and 2yrs as the govener of Alaska,and raising 5 children,serving on local boards such as the PTA,coaching youth sports undercut McCains charge..I bet she knows where her states National Gaurd helicopters are and does not kick off her campaign at the house of a man who bombed our nations capitol and to this day still holds no remorse for his actions.

RobertMarble 6 years, 11 months ago

What excuse will the libtards use once hussein is defeated in November? My guess is it'll be the 'racism' card again but who knows what their next conspiracy theory will be. They've probably got their tinfoil hats on already...

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

did i speak above your level of comprehesion scott? sorry, i will try to dumb it down for you next time.

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

ufc, while I absolutely agree and have written here frequently that there is no standard list of experiences to prepare one for President, there should at least be a background history on which to make an informed judgment call. What is there for Palin? I don't see a life history suggesting excellence, intelligence, and drive for the public good or to make her region better. I could very well be wrong, but it isn't clear at first glance, which is all we have thus far. One time saying no to a waste of government funds that was already recognized around the country as a waste of funds? That tells me she can spot the obvious. What personal decisions for her own education did she make to suggest at least a strong interest in national (now possibly international) politics? How in any way does her experience working for three years as a sportscaster after getting out of college help our nation?What bills did she sponsor or pass while city council or mayor of Wasilla that could possibly extend to a national scope? I obviously don't know, and I doubt anyone could point them out, unless you are one of the 6,500 people in Wasilla.Further, even if she made sound decision there, we can't just assume, "What is good for Wasilla is good for the nation," now can we? There is no list of experiences for president, but the personal histories of people can tell us plenty. The fact that we know so very little about Palin, yet many Republicans around here are throwing their blind support at her, speaks volumes. This was a party over country decision, and the party loyalists are responding.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"She is an example for all of us to admire."I thought you folks frowned on having gaggles of kids on the public dole.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

Get a grip UFC, take some meds and then come back and try to make some sense.

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

same as Barack. why have people trusted him with their vote? many democrats have entrusted him with the most important job that there is.

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

dick cheney had lots of international and national experience. then, by using your logic, he made for an excellent VP.

Ralph Reed 6 years, 11 months ago

Just curious about something. Did Palin really say no to a huge waste of Federal $$$, the "Bridge to Nowhere?" A September CNN Article indicates Palin did not stop the funding, that was done in Washington.What happened to the money after that? The same article says the money still went to Alaska for any use they see fit.Here's the article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/22/alaska.bridge.ap/****I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

most folks vote for R or D, not the person/issues.

ForThePeople 6 years, 11 months ago

Anonymous userBuffyloGal (Anonymous) says:Are you sure choosing McCain isn't the real gamble? Check this one out first.http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.htm:That was pretty interesting....senility comes to mind! The updated link should be added to every presidential thread as a reminder! Thanks

RobertMarble 6 years, 11 months ago

the libs seem to be getting more shrill the closer we get to election day- perhaps it's the bitter taste of impending defeat that has them so stressed. Or is it the prospect of having to move to someplace like north korea to find a system of government they approve of?

yankeelady 6 years, 11 months ago

I knew she reminded me of someone, I just couldn't pin it down. Connie Morris exactly. Just what we need on the national level. I too am middle of the road and hadn't quite made up my mind, until now. Obama '08. For the environment and many other reasons.

ASBESTOS 6 years, 11 months ago

"If Obama had chosen Sibelius, Republicans would pitching a fit, and she's considerably more qualified than Palin."Oh BS, that is not true. Kathy is only an "Insurance specialist", and look at the condition of the Kansas Insurance Industry, paying out nothing but protected by Kathy a lap-dog for the Insurance Industry.Palin, got rid of 2 corrupt Gov's, one a D and the other incumbent R both on corruption charges. She cleaned up her state and held the Oil Companies responsible.I would say she stares down a lot more "bear" than Kathy.Alaska is a heck lot more complicated than Kansas, and has LOTS more money and influence, and is on the border with Russia and Canada, one of the only states to border other countries, so yes she has lots more "international experience" than Kathy, considering the "fishing rights" and interntional, national, and state "waters" and the treaties, to say nothing of the international effect of wildlife, legal issues, and the energy and minearal rights issues.Yes, Palin stands heads above Kathy, as would anyone form anywhere compared to narrow minded Kansans, whom have such a limited view of the world, democratic or Republican parrty members included.Kansans should shut up on the "national interest" because there is not much in Kansas to influence that, now get used to it. You may not want to hear it, but it is the truth.

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

but you are using it as a thought you agree with.

kansas778 6 years, 11 months ago

Her lack of experience won't be much of a problem once she gets out there on the campaign trail. It certainly hasn't hurt Obama.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

""I don't have 30 years of political experience under my belt but that's a good thing. I've never been part of a good-ol'-boys club." -Palin"McCain does. Welcome aboard. By the way, does anyone suppose being governor in Alaska is all that challenging? Hasn't the place been awash in money for decades. So much so that they generate a state income benefit for each of their citizens. (There's a reason Alaska attracts all those corrupt Republicans that she ousted.) Has she made tough budgetary and/or legislative decisions. I suspect there's a reason why Alaska can get away with electing a village mayor as governor. There must not be much heavy lifting involved. Nice choice John.

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

This is the "maverick" at work. Having met Palin just ONCE before, he made his decision. McCain called for war against Iraq shortly after 9/11, even before Bush had. He has already shown his interest in bombing Iran. America can't handle an impulsive fly-boy making the decisions that effect the nation. Obama / Biden!

Freedomlives 6 years, 11 months ago

JohnBrown. Do you think Obama will truly do what's right for the country or his own political career? The problem we have today is we are trying to look like the good guy. If the generals that ran WWII were in charge we would be out of Iraq. When the insurgents took over Fallujah the would have dropped pamphlets telling they had 2 days to get out and then they would have made that place a parking lot. Obama is just a superstar with no show. A first time Senator who has been there three years and only one just showing up and voting on nothing, and two years on the campaign trail.McCain picked an incredible, smart, and efficient VP. Someone who is not afraid to go again her own people. I thing what bothers them most is she is honest and does what she sets out to do.

smilelouise 6 years, 11 months ago

After meeting someone at work, once, and then talking to them on the phone, once, would you ask them to babysit your child? to marry you? how about to be your 2nd in command to run the free world? McCain's decions was hasty and impetuous. It will come to bite him in the butt, come election day. He might as well pack up his toys and go home.

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

experience is a tad bit overrated (sp?). maybe i should say too much is expected in regards to experience. i respect Barack for having a vision and running on that. my problem is when he and his flock attack others on their experience. nothing can really ready you for the job of POTUS. lots of variables.

dandelion 6 years, 11 months ago

As a middle of the road voter (liberal to all you righties), I don't care who he picks as his running mate. I just find it strange that he would think that women who supported Hillary would vote for Palin just because she's a woman. My girlfriend supported Hillary, and she tells me, if this is what McCain thinks, he has insulted her intelligence. She no longer has any respect for the man. She votes on issues like freedom of choice for women, protecting the environment and greedy corporations. She's disappointed that Hillary lost, but she's not ready to become a radical right winger.

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

what was GW Bush's international experience? Gov. of Texas? Barack had served like 100-200 days in the senate before running for Prez. there aren't too many jobs out there that really give you the experience on foreign matters. bill clinton didn't have a ton of this international experience that is apparently essential and most americans think he did a good job overall.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 11 months ago

Who's smearing Palin?Check this out:http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31096_Whos_Behind_Anti-Palin_Smear_SiteBTW, behind my hood of anonymity is a hood of invisibility. Behind that hood is the balaclava of universal camouflage. Behind that hood are the under-shorts of not being there.

Freedomlives 6 years, 11 months ago

I should have read my comment better. I was running on emotion.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools, this despite the fact that this has been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court."She and McCain and all the rest of the theocrats have a plan to take care of that trifling objection.

sfjayhawk 6 years, 11 months ago

This was a huge gamble and reeks of pure desperation. While this may have shored up some support from the social conservatives, it will certainly alienate all of the Hillary undecides and most independants. How on earth could mccain think that putting palin one heartbeat away from the presidency was a good idea?

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

the more people bad-mouth her, the more they lower the bar of expectations for her in the debate in missouri. and also raise the bar for Biden.

kansas778 6 years, 11 months ago

UFC_FAN (Anonymous) says: the more people bad-mouth her, the more they lower the bar of expectations for her in the debate in missouri. and also raise the bar for Biden.********Same thing happened with Bush. Dems were so stoked that their "enlightened" candidates would wipe the floor in a debate with Bush. Turns out the fumbled quotes that appear on the Daily Show aren't a representative example of Bush's debate skills.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

Ooopps.Turns out she might have been for Obama before McCain came calling:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/30/palin-was-excited-that-ob_n_122632.htmlAs the days go by this is looking more and more like an ill-considered gut reaction by McCain to Obama's speech. Knowing that he'd been called out and point by point put away in the Obama speech, McCain lurched for anything to quell the headlines that were sure to follow. He came up with the Palin gambit, which will now slowly blow up piece by piece in his face. Is this really the guy we want making Presidential decisions?

devieh 6 years, 11 months ago

Well since i can't post a link to the article as per LJworld rules. I would recommend anyone google "sarah palin is trig's grandmother".Seems abstinence only education didn't work for Bristol Palin when she became pregnant @ 16.

chet_larock 6 years, 11 months ago

UFC_FAN (Anonymous) says:"She's a total beginner on national and international issues."-scott3460and Barack isn't?*obama's on the senate committee for homeland security and governmental affairs, senate foreign relations committee, among others. you can talk about palin's "executive" experience, but palin is a total beginner on national and international issues. how she handles that will be the issue. that's not to say the dems have much to stand on by trying to turn the experience debate around on mccain,

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"There is nothing wrong with Sarah Palin:."You don't know that. She's just part of your "team," so you, as usual, just assume and assert. There hasn't been sufficient scrutiny of her or her abilities for anyone to know that, and there won't be time for it in the next 2 months. While there is the obvious attempt to compare her experience level with that of Obama's, which is dubious at best, the fact remains that he has been fully vetted over the last four years, enough that voters can make an informed choice between him and McCain.Given her lack of political experience outside of small-town politics, If she were at the beginning of her second term rather than the beginning of her first term, and had been actively engaged in national and international issues, then this would possibly be a good selection, even though I would never vote for her, given her generally far right positions.And as far as Bush and Cheney are concerned, they were both quite well known in 2000, and the majority of the electorate who voted against them knew quite well what a disaster they would be. Nobody can say for sure one way or the other about Palin.

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

"She's a total beginner on national and international issues."--scott3460and Barack isn't?

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

McCain..."... a hobbling centipede.""... an impulsive fly-boy."I think we can expect the insectoid sunglasses, any moment now...http://www.daylife.com/photo/09674vN2nw8rG

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"do you honestly think it's harder to be V.P. than Governor?"If she never goes beyond VP, then it's a moot question. But president? Puhleeze!! If Obama had chosen Sibelius, Republicans would pitching a fit, and she's considerably more qualified than Palin.

ASBESTOS 6 years, 11 months ago

If she is such a risk, why are you liberals running around shouting about it?If it is bad, then just shut up, and let the damage run it's course.But keeping this discussion about "experience" of the VP pick, a VP that has more executive experience than the Democratic Presidential pick, Obama, is only going to injure Obama's campaign.Keep talking guys, you only help our side in the GOP.I cannot believe you guys think your party is the only one wqith ""Intellectuals"" in it, LMAO. IF you are so smart you should know when to let "sleeping dogs lie", and y9ou don't.Captian Teleprompter the chosen one, is only up by a few points, and did not get much of a "bounce" from his "audacity of arrogance" sppech at the 80,000 stadium. Even democrats panned his speech, and the Hurricane is coming and the Administration and Republican Governors are all ready.So mistake fixed!

Ralph Reed 6 years, 11 months ago

kansas778 (Anonymous) writes:"Why do you want to know? ......(and two more paragraphs)"***Sorry that bothers you, but it stays. People here know how I feel about anonymity on this forum. So, take a chill pill.****I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?

kansas778 6 years, 11 months ago

Sorry our anonymity bothers you, but it stays, so quit being creepy.

Ceee 6 years, 11 months ago

Palin hasn't passed the commander-in-chief threshold; she hasn't even taken the test. For months GOP contenders debated, campaigned, and organized. At that time Palin wasn't sure what a VP does (her own words). She also said she hadn't thought much about Iraq. She hasn't taken a position on any international issues and now that she's McCain's running mate, all we'll hear are his points of view. We'll never know what, if anything, she believes. I'm conservative enough to expect people to take a stand or two. Other than being pro-life and anti- corruption, what does Palin stand for? Palin may be a nice lady and a good governor, but a heartbeat away from the leader of the free world? She appears to be in over her head.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 6 years, 11 months ago

Grit, you say, she has "grit!" My God, people, this woman has 4 or 5 childern (I have seen both in news articles), one child with Downes Syndrome, and all the responsibilities that a reasonable, responsible parent who is NOT vice-presedent has to juggle with, and she wants a job where she is only one heart attack of a very old man to drop her into the seat of power where the very survival of the world may rest on her shoulders??????? Is this what the anti-abortion Republicans are willing to risk to get elected?? Is this the fine example for young women with families, "go get into politics and leave your kids with the sitter"s"?? Is this the "family values" that these people are always harping on? Chriminy, I thought old age had fogged up John McCain's vision a bit, but not to this degree, he is plain, out-and-out, off-the-chart crazy and anyone who votes for this old fossil just to express their dislike of a black person is patently stupid and ignorant.

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

Asbestos: "Alaska is a heck lot more complicated than Kansas, and has LOTS more money and influence"Well, not according to the U.S. Census. Population (2006):Kansas - 2,764,075 Alaska - 670,053Manufacturer shipments (2002): Kansas - $50,897,796Alaska - $3,832,024Wholesale trade sales (2002):Kansas - $44,117,100Alaska - $3,616,674Federal spending (2004):Kansas - $19,130,670Alaska - $8,445,389It goes on and on like that. Asbestos, perhaps you should become familiar with the concept of at least trying to be accurate before you spout off. Otherwise, everything you write is suspect (as if we didn't already know this).

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

scott--you are a tool. is there an age limit on the forum? scott thinks that her side is always right and the other is always wrong which is common in children. plus the words she uses to describe the other side is another example of an immature child. she should grow up.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

" there should at least be a background history on which to make an informed judgment call."Agreed!! It is looking increasingly like McCain dropped the ball on vetting this woman. She's apparently part of the Christian Dominionist movement and also belongs to a pro-life group that has some whacked out views on birth control (basically they do not belive anything but the rhythm method.) My guess is that in his desperation to get Obama's speech off the headlines, he made this foolish move & never did a thorough examination of her background. Lord only knows what will come crawling up out of the muck and mire (creationist pun intended.)

UFC_FAN 6 years, 11 months ago

i can give you my opinons/viewpoints. does that make me qualified? anyone can give you their opinion on an issue...but when the rubber hits the road. for anyone to use the "heartbeat away" argument is somewhat lame. Barack would not be a heartbeat away if elected. what is his "experience"? oh, that's right, he gave a speech. i'm sure that Barack is a nice guy and a good rookie senator, but he appears to be in over his head, according to those who are hung up on Palin.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

From those who know her:The Fairbanks Miner:"Most people would acknowledge that, regardless of her charm and good intentions, Palin is not ready for the top job. McCain seems to have put his political interests ahead of the nation's when he created the possibility that she might fill it."The Anchorage Daily News:"McCain picked Palin despite a recent blemish on her ethically pure resume. While she was governor, members of her family and staff tried to get her ex-brother-in-law fired from the Alaska State Troopers. Her public safety commissioner would not do so; she forced him out, supposedly for other reasons. While she runs for vice-president, the Legislature has an investigator on the case.For all those advantages, Palin joins the ticket with one huge weakness: She's a total beginner on national and international issues."

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

ufc: you say "same as Barack" - with regard to Dems supporting him and as far as his experience. Not quite. Just look at his real resume. I've made that point clear several times over. As far as the support issue goes, a big difference between Obama and Palin is clearly the vetting process in which the American people have come to know Senator Obama as a candidate during this election process of ours that has been going on for more than a year. Most Reps blindly supporting Palin heard about her for the first time yesterday. Can you really not see a difference?scott: Christian Dominionist? Are they evangelists who deliver Domino's Pizza? Also, are we supposed to believe that the founder of the Christian Coalition, Mr. Ralph Reed, actually is visiting this site? __I'm anonymous behind my mask, but why do some pretend to be somebody else?

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

Learn to get your quotes right, UFC. That's not me, that's the Anchorage Daily News.

kansas778 6 years, 11 months ago

RalphReed (Ralph Reed) says:I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?****Why do you want to know? Last I checked this isn't a social networking site, this is a forum where the news and issues of the day are discussed. Remaining anonymous allows people to freely make criticisms and discuss topics that otherwise might be stigmatizing without their boss, neighbors, teachers, or co-workers knowing who they are. I've had bosses who are very opinionated, and I wouldn't want them to know my political views because I'm not getting into an argument with my boss.Besides, what purpose would it serve to know someone's real name anyway? For all purposes that I need, Bozo's screen name is just fine. I don't need to know his real name, I title my post to bozo, and he knows that I'm talking to him. So why do you want to know who people are? Are you going to mail them a letter, call them up? Are you going to stop by their house for a visit, or find out where they work and show their co-workers their posts? What does it matter to you?

Jeff Barclay 6 years, 11 months ago

Most telling is Obama-Biden campaign telling McCain who he should have chosen. Palin was not on their list.

Bob Forer 6 years, 11 months ago

I wouldn't even call this is a Hail Mary pass. A Hail Mary pass is dictated by the circumstances. You're a touchdown or less away from tying or winning the game. The clock is running out. Your're fifty yards away from the endzone. What do you do? Duh. You throw this into the endzone., No this is not a Hail Mary pass. A Hail Mary pass is neither bad nor good. Its merely indicated by the reality of the circumstances. No this is worse. This is like being down 17-7 in the first quarter of a game. You have the ball, fourth and seven on your opponents 35 yard line, and instead of going for a field goal or punting, you fake a punt, go for first time, and have your pass intercepted and run back for a touchdown. No, this is not a Hail Mary. It's simply a bonehead mistake. It's neither good nor bad. It's bad, bad bad....and stuipd. Good riddance, Republicans.

jayhawkjg 6 years, 11 months ago

I would like to thank the Liberals, they are doing the Conservatives a favor, keeping Palin in the news. They think she has not had experience, the last I heard Obama nor Biden have had any experience. Obama a couple years in the senate, Biden a lifetime in the senate. They are so far from their base, I would think they have no idea what the folks back home are doing. Palin has been on the home front. GOOD PICK MCCAIN!!!!!

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good..

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"She does the right thing. Her record proves it."How could it? She had no record to speak of, certainly not as much as Obama has, and she has not been under close national scrutiny for the last four years, as he has, and she can't possibly be held under such scrutiny in the two months till the election.Like John Brown said, the important factor here is John McCain's bad judgement, not the qualifications, or lack thereof, of Palin.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good."And I'll say it again-- that's some pretty damning "praise."

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"No, this is not a Hail Mary."Agreed. More akin to a trick play. One that is not going to work. I don't think the old fool even vetted her. Under an ethics investigation (OK, he probably knew that,) disturbing ties to Dominionist Christian organizations (they seek a theocracy in the US) and some wacky ideas on birth control (the rhythm method is the only thing that is acceptable.)But then there's this hilarious insight in to why he may have picked her. Check out John McCain's Wandering Eyes on the following page. A picture is truly worth a thousand words & this leaves little doubt that McCain's horn dogging it for his unqualified eye candy. http://www.jedreport.com/2008/07/birth-control-p.html

staff04 6 years, 11 months ago

I wouldn't call it a Hail Mary either...more like a fumblerooski!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumblerooski

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

This move on McCain's part is brilliant.I'll say it again,Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good.Their debate should be fun! I wonder if Biden can keep from being the pompous self righteous jerk that he is.Having a VP more experienced in making executive decisions than the democratic presidential candidate is a plus. I can't wait for the comparison advertisements from the McCain camp.Am I getting bozo's goat?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good."Which means she'll convince you sycophants who need no convincing, and be the laughing stock to everyone else.

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

This move on McCain's part is brilliant.I'll say it again,Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good.Their debate should be fun! I wonder if Biden can keep from being the pompous self righteous jerk that he is.Having a VP more experienced in making executive decisions than the democratic presidential candidate is a plus. I can't wait for the comparison advertisements from the McCain camp.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good."Woe is McCain if she compares at all to Anne Coulter, whose "debating" skills are no better than the average BushCo sycophant on this forum. Is Palin really going to rely almost exclusively on "name-calling" a la Coulter?

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

Sure, a "brilliant" move by a 72 year old candidate whose father died of a heart attack at the age of 70.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"scott: Christian Dominionist? Are they evangelists who deliver Domino's Pizza?"Even worse, they're evangelicals who think that it's OK to insert religious belief in public policy. If you liked george w. bush's approach to upholding the Constitution, you'll love this loon. The rest of us, we'd better take a long, long, hard look. This is the closest the loony right has come yet to getting one of their own in to the Oval Office. With McCain too weak to say no to the far right, the amount of damage she could do is unimaginable.

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

I watched a debate of Palin when she was running for governor of Alaska.Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good.Their debate should be fun! I wonder if Biden can keep from being the pompous self righteous jerk that he is. Having a VP more experienced in making executive decisions than the democratic presidential candidate is a plus. I can't wait for the comparison advertisements from the McCain camp.

chet_larock 6 years, 11 months ago

Enough with the analyses and assumptions of "electoral tactics" playing a role in John McCain's vice-presidential pick.John McCain said he would pick the most qualified candidate for the job of vice-president.John McCain picked Sarah Palin.Why?Because John McCain believes Sarah Palin is the most qualified person in America for the job of vice-president.Stop overanalyzing it.The End.-David Rees, Huff Post

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"Having a VP more experienced in making executive decisions"So if she changed her oil once, would that make her a "mechanic?"

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"Am I getting bozo's goat?"No, you're getting repetitive and boring, and you've still failed to make a valid point.

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

Is this the reason the liberals have come out in droves to be attack dogs against this woman? She does the right thing. Her record proves it. The record number of responses from the liberals to any article about her proves my point. Are we having an earth quake in Lawrence, or are the liberals in this town quaking in their collective birkenstocks? I watched a debate of Palin when she was running for governor of Alaska.Biden might as well be debating Anne Coulter, she is that good.Their debate should be fun! I wonder if Biden can keep from being the pompous self righteous jerk that he is.Having a VP more experienced in making executive decisions than the democratic presidential candidate is a plus. I can't wait for the comparison advertisements from the McCain camp.

ASBESTOS 6 years, 11 months ago

"Most Reps blindly supporting Palin heard about her for the first time yesterday. Can you really not see a difference?"Palin is not running for President, Obama is. Obama has 143 days in the Senate, and most of that was absent because he was already campaigning for President.If you Lefty Koolaide drinkers would stop and look you would see just how sexist you are being, applying one standard to a black man, and another to a white woman with 5 kids.Do not tell me you are more sensitive to "diversity" your cover is blown and hypocricy is obvious.

JohnBrown 6 years, 11 months ago

The debate is not about Palin and her qualifications (or lack thereof); the debate is about John McCain and his ability to make Presidential Decisions. Palin was his first Presidential Decision. It says a lot about McCain.His "maverick" days are over, he is solidly in the conservative wing of the republican party.The average lifespan of a white male from Arizona is 73.04 years. McCain just celebrated his 72nd birthday. McCain's fighter pilot mentality that he's invincible will be bucking the odds once again, only this time its not just him that's being asked to go along with this risk, but the whole country.

JohnBrown 6 years, 11 months ago

Just so everyone gets it: John McCain's "maverick" days are over. His first Presidential Decision, picking Gov. Palin, places McCain squarely in the camp of the Republican's ultra-right wing.

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

So much for the Obama bump -is that the same thing as knocking knuckles together?

ASBESTOS 6 years, 11 months ago

You want more that the MSM is sitting on? Here is some:http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/the-chicago-three-obama-ayers-rezko/Obama is dirty and is "old school politics". He's not "change" of any kind.Blast away at a Hockey mom all you want, but there are felonies in Barak's history.

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

Scott, listened to the entire audio of that radio interview. Don't feel like going into it much, but I will say the only thing that tape proves is the desperation some are grasping at straws with to beat this woman down. Her 'laughter' after the inflammatory comments is easily recognizable as a surprised response and/or an uncomfortable pause. Not much there if anything at all, sorry man.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"scott3460, if true, Palin's despicable behavior reflects poorly on her character. Do you have any evidence that the tapes do exist, or even better, links to the tapes."But of course, listen for yourself:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/palin-laughs-as-opponent_n_122776.html

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

Either side talking about 'foreign policy experience' seems fairly pointless. Check me if I'm wrong, but this election guarantees us only the third Senator to ever be President. That means that most other CIC's have been Governors. Do Gov's ever have any F.P. experience? As far as Pallin, no she hasn't been around long, but her experience on the city council, as mayor and governor - no matter the size of the city or state or their population - is longer in duration that BO's short stint on the Hill, and is much more attuned to the role of President than Barely A Senator Obama. I'm not a fan of her creationist stance, and while I believe in pro-choice I can see the pro-life argument, but don't like (if it's true) her opposition to abortion if effected by rape or incest. The ethics violation investigation has already been denounced by the leading Democrat in the state who said that he saw no 'smoking gun' that would lead to any censure, but I'm certain the smaller minds on this forum (that'd be you, bozo) will continue to beat that dead horse. But if any of you would open your minds just a tad, you'd admit that Pallin is nothing short of an achiever in numerous areas and has led a life of service for her home town, her home state, and now has accepted a call to serve the country. Or, if by chance you have an aversion to shaving your armpits or unibrow, you might continue to harp like a third grader that she was in a beauty pageant, right bea?Oh, and by the way, if the same third graders want to spout about how close to the grave JM is, I hate to say it or even think it, and God protect him, but if BO wins have you ever considered the size of the bullseye that'll be on his back? On a straight 'survivor' comparison, sorta looks like a wash.

Bob Forer 6 years, 11 months ago

Guardian (Anonymous) says: Look at that Martha! Ain't those scared li'l Liberals just the cutest things? A gamble! Wow! In depth journalism at its worst and you all fell for it. What isn't a gamble? The DNC gambled with Obama, The RNC gambled with McCain. Obama gambled with Biden, McCain gambled with Palin. So what?______Hey Guardian, may I humbly suggest you go back and get your GED. McCain gambled with Palin. But it wasn't the DNC or the RNC who gambled with their respective candidates. It was their respective primary electorates. (sorry if I am using words too big for your small minded brain). Hmmm..... However, I'm am guessing you'll understand this: YOU'RE AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

Forgive me, but I understood the obligations of our candidates when they were in the presence of such objectionable material was to voice their objections immediately and leave. Was that not the instruction the conservatives spent most of the late Spring giving Obama regarding Rev. Wright? I fully expected someone they nominated to the office of VP would uphold that standard, not giggle and squeal in delight like a little girl at the insults hurled at another human being.

Jim Phillips 6 years, 11 months ago

Look at that Martha! Ain't those scared li'l Liberals just the cutest things? A gamble! Wow! In depth journalism at its worst and you all fell for it. What isn't a gamble? The DNC gambled with Obama, The RNC gambled with McCain. Obama gambled with Biden, McCain gambled with Palin. So what?

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

In continuing support of my theory that McCain made this call from the gut without doing much of any vetting, there is now the following:Apparently one of Ms. Palin's political enemies in Alaska (which the more you read about it sounds like one big version of high school popularity fighting) is one Lynda Green. Ms. Green is Senate President and is also a cancer survivor and apparently overweight. Tapes are now beginning to float around the internet of an appearance Ms. Palin made on a morning "shock-jock" radio show, during which one of the jocks ridiculed Ms. Green's weight, called her a bitch (which elicited squeals and giggles from Ms. Palin) questioned whether Green's kids "liked her," and made several unfunny references to Ms. Green being a "cancer" on Alaska and needing to "go away." Palin clearly enjoyed the vicious political attack.Clearly inappropriate behavior for a VP candidate to be engaged in, but it is shocking to me that McCain apparently did not uncover this prior to his selection, or did uncover it and simply did not care.

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

"The problem, as I understand it, is that she told the investigators looking in to the matter that she had nothing to do with the firing."I'm not 100% on this, Scott, but I don't believe she ever claimed to have nothing to do with removing the PSC from office. She even offered him another head position (can't remember title) which he declined.As far as the background of this story it really seems to make more and more sense if you get the entire overview. You can look at it as a conflict of interest, but at the same time, I'd hope that my Governor would enlist the Public Safety Commissioner to investigate and dismiss a State Trooper if it became known that he beat his wife, tasered his child, poached (think that's a felony in Alaska), and drove drunk on multiple occassions. You want a guy like that patrolling w/ a gun?As far as the Clinton/Starr garbage (say it with a french flair, as in 'gar-bawj'), I agree with ya, and he never should have been asked the question.

BigPrune 6 years, 11 months ago

Vote the party of God, the democrats. Hurricane Gustav has been sent by God himself. The former National Chairman of the Democratic National Committee Don Fowler even jokes about, because it's cool. Watch for yourself.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8...

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

Scared? Yes, because if McCain is somehow elected, Palin -- with her vast experience as mayor of a town about the size of Haysville, Kansas -- will be a heatbeat away from the Presidency behind a 72 year old man whose father died of a heart attack at the age of 70.If Obama's 11 years of Illinois state and U.S. Senate experience combined with his time teaching constitutional law scares you, then Palin should terrify you! 10 years working in Wasilla, Alaska, and 1.5 years as governor of a state with a population lower than Austin, Texas is her experience. You should also be terrified that this is the person McCain thinks is the most qualified person in the country to be his number two, despite having met her just ONCE before offering her the position. Scared, indeed, that so many Americans might possibly agree with McCain that Palin is worthy.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

As I said, Jaywalker, the issue that is most troubling is that she initially denied any involvement of herself, or anyone in her administration, in the pressuring to fire the Trooper. That simply is not true. It is the lie & the coverup, as ususal, that is more revealing than the underlying act.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

The tape is what it is, anyone interested in what the potential VP thinks is funny should give it a listen."And comparing a ten minute radio interview with 20 years of attendance at the altar of Wright's hateful rhetoric "You have no evidence that the Rev. Wright engaged in objectionable behavior for 20 years.

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

"You have no evidence that the Rev. Wright engaged in objectionable behavior for 20 years."Nope, sure don't, but neither do you in a good number of your conspiracy theories but that doesn't stop ya from jumping to illogical conclusions. Making the connection between Wright, Pfleger et al. and the numerous comments and commentary that have been documented in the not so distant past and considering it logical that this has gone on for some time is much more substantial. You're right, the tape is what it is, and that's much ado about nothing.

beatrice 6 years, 11 months ago

jay: "... if BO wins have you ever considered the size of the bullseye that'll be on his back?"Typical right-wing fear mongering. I guess minorities shouldn't ever be given positions of power then, because they will all be targets of radical right-wingers with guns, so we better stick with the old white guys. Nice jay, real nice.

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

From farther down in Max's NYTimes article:"Once elected governor in November 2006, Ms. Palin warned Alaskans that nationwide ridicule of the Gravina bridge would make it difficult to secure more federal money to meet rising cost projections. Last September, when Ms. Palin announced she was abandoning the project, she cited a growing financing shortfall. "It's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," she said. (Alaska was able to keep the federal money and direct it to other projects.)Since then, Ms. Palin has continued to battle the state's Republican establishment, which derives much of its political power from its ability to direct the flow of federal earmarks, and this summer encouraged a protege, Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, to challenge Mr. Young in the state's Republican primary last month. The vote was so close that the results are not yet known."She certainly represents a different pole in Alaska Republican politics," said Steve Ellis, a spokesman for Taxpayers for Common Sense, a Washington group that tracks earmarks."Yes, Palin did support the bridge project while running for Gov, but once in office and fully apprised of all the facts and costs, she reversed and chose to spend the funds elsewhere. She did not lie, Max. You are right about Stevens and Moore though, they're consistently some of the biggest hogs at the trough.Also, Palin has never called for the cessation of ALL earmarks, just that they should be severly cut back and states should rely on themselves more.

Bob Forer 6 years, 11 months ago

scott3460, if true, Palin's despicable behavior reflects poorly on her character. Do you have any evidence that the tapes do exist, or even better, links to the tapes.

Tom McCune 6 years, 11 months ago

LOL. Many news outlets now reporting Palin's daughter is now pregnant.....

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

Obviously you haven't listened to the tape, Scott. Noone "squealed in delight". That's ridiculous. And comparing a ten minute radio interview with 20 years of attendance at the altar of Wright's hateful rhetoric is mole hills to mountains.C'mon man, she responded the same way all politicians do when they're surfing the PC tide on shows like Howard Stern, The Daily Show, Don Imus, Saturday Night Live, etc. They laugh off the controversial and inflammatory and avoid a direct response when the host tries to pin them down or paint them in a corner. This really is a silly road to go down, not surprising this came from the Huffington Post.

ASBESTOS 6 years, 11 months ago

HuffingtonPost"The Associated Press reports on Ayers in the debate:Clinton said she was concerned about Obama's association with Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground who Clinton pointed out said in an interview published on Sept. 11, 2001, that he didn't regret bombing government buildings. Obama quickly responded that Clinton's husband pardoned one member of Weather Underground and commuted the sentence of another. "Look, there is no doubt that the Republicans will attack either of us," Obama said. "What I've been able to display during the course of this primary is that I can take a punch. I've taken some pretty good ones from Senator Clinton."The New York Times has a rundown on William Ayer's controversial past, as well as his loose ties with Barack Obama:Mr. Ayers is listed as a member of the nine-member board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an offshoot of the Woods Charitable Fund, founded in 1941 by a prominent lawyer and telephone company executive. According to the fund's Web site, it has focused in recent years on "issues that affected the area's least advantaged, including welfare reform, affordable housing" and "tax policy as a tool in reducing poverty." For a time, Mr. Obama was on the board with Mr. Ayers, though he no longer has a formal association with the group. At the debate, he described Mr. Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."The Washington Post also points out that Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's state senate reelection campaign in 2001.Politico, who first covered the relationship into this year, reports that Obama visited the household of the Ayers in Chicago early in his political career:In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district's influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.... "I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers' house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress," said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. "[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor."As Lynn Sweet points out, Obama's seemingly scant relationship with Ayers has been a favorite story of Fox News:Ayers is a noted education specialist at the University of Illinois at Chicago. But to Fox News -- which has relentlessly been playing up Obama's associations with Ayers -- Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Obama made it seem like he barely knew him, though they both served on Chicago's Woods Fund board.

Jim Phillips 6 years, 11 months ago

I was only half joking when I made my initial scared li'l Liberals post earlier. But with Obamination picking that "old guy", all of the negative interpretations of the numerous Palin articles, and the "Desperate Housewives" thing, deny it all you like--you guys are in a major panic.

JohnBrown 6 years, 11 months ago

Palin is against abortion for any reason, including rape. Which means, Palin supports the rights of rapists to choose the mother of their offspring.McCain has lost all credibility as a maverick. He has lodged himself squarely in the arms of the extreme right wing of his party.

Jim Phillips 6 years, 11 months ago

TheSychophant-You're typical angry Liberal act amuses me! Are you angry about anything in particular or are you always that way? Therapy might help.

jaywalker 6 years, 11 months ago

"Typical right-wing fear mongering. I guess minorities shouldn't ever be given positions of power then, because they will all be targets of radical right-wingers with guns, so we better stick with the old white guys. Nice jay, real nice."Typical display of the waste of your supposed graduate degree, beatrice. Fear mongering? Are you that dense, really? Did I say, in any fashion or form, that minorities should not be "elected" (though your choice of 'given' in respect to Obama seems oddly accurate) to positions of power? Really, bea, you wasted some serious dough on that extra degree, your powers of comprehension would be just as well-honed with $1.05 in late fees at Watson. Yes, I'm sure noone has considered Obama being in some racist numnut's sights. Those three yahoos in Denver are an isolated incident, won't happen again, I'm certain. Never mind that BO was assigned a Secret Service detail earlier than any candidate ever. Never mind that BO actually has the support (came out two days ago) of the Aryan Nation because they've already seen a swell in their membership.I pray nothing happens to him nor any other 'minority' that runs, you mental midget. And yes, 'mental midget' certainly applies to someone ignorant enough to equate racists as "radical right wingers". Utterly, jaw droppingly brilliant there, beanutball. I merely compared and contrasted your childish and repetitive 'fear mongering' that McCain will die and leave Pallin in charge. As I said, fortune telling of that sort is a wash from both sides. But spin it how you want in your endless ageist, sexist, anti-achievement, anti-social, anti-success, anti-money way.

coltrane 6 years, 11 months ago

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Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"The ethics violation investigation has already been denounced by the leading Democrat in the state who said that he saw no 'smoking gun' that would lead to any censure, but I'm certain the smaller minds on this forum (that'd be you, bozo) will continue to beat that dead horse."From what I can tell the thing that is going to get her is the same thing that always trips up these politicians & that's the fact that she's clearly lied about it. I heard a bit of corporate, AM hate radio today & the line of defense has already been created whereby it is supposedly justified for a sitting governor to reach down and insist that a cop get fired because he allegedly tasered some kid and hunted a moose without a license (big whoop.) The problem, as I understand it, is that she told the investigators looking in to the matter that she had nothing to do with the firing. That stretches credibility and is likely going to be proven false. Thus, God, in His infinite wisdom, after witnessing the grand hypocrisy of the Clinton impeachment trial, is going to have the Republicans tripped up by the very thing Clinton did, lieing to protect oneself in an investigation. I, for one, am looking forward to the delicious irony of it all, although I also acknowledge that the matter is likely to be stalled until after this election is concluded.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 11 months ago

"I also acknowledge that the matter is likely to be stalled until after this election is concluded."Yea, interestingly, if McCain and she get elected, and this ethic probe goes bad for her, one of McCain's first acts as president could be to replace her as VP.

RobertMarble 6 years, 10 months ago

it's either panic or just their normal level of name calling, stereotyping, and general 3rd grade behavior. hard to tell with the libs...the righties & bible thumpers sure have their issues too, but when it comes to the two corrupt parties- the libs seem to be the least intelligent.

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