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Teen driver cited in crash with two buses

An accident that happened about 8 a.m. at 21st Street and Naismith Drive involving a Lawrence school bus and a KU on Wheels bus - as well as a passenger vehicle driven by a Lawrence High student on the way to school - injured only a tree. No passengers were on either bus.

An accident that happened about 8 a.m. at 21st Street and Naismith Drive involving a Lawrence school bus and a KU on Wheels bus - as well as a passenger vehicle driven by a Lawrence High student on the way to school - injured only a tree. No passengers were on either bus.

August 22, 2008

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An accident that happened about 8 a.m. at 21st Street and Naismith Drive involving a Lawrence school bus and a KU on Wheels bus - as well as a passenger vehicle driven by a Lawrence High student on the way to school - injured only a tree. No passengers were on either bus.

An accident that happened about 8 a.m. at 21st Street and Naismith Drive involving a Lawrence school bus and a KU on Wheels bus - as well as a passenger vehicle driven by a Lawrence High student on the way to school - injured only a tree. No passengers were on either bus.

A school bus, a Kansas University transit bus and a car were involved in a crash Friday morning at 21st Street and Naismith Drive.

The 17-year-old driver of a 2001 Infiniti didn't obey a stop sign and the car was hit by a KU on Wheels bus, police said. The impact then spun the girl's car into a public school bus. The First Student bus serves South Junior High and Lawrence High students, said Julie Boyle, a spokeswoman for Lawrence public schools.

No passengers were traveling on either bus, and no one was injured in the crash, police said. The wreck happened about 7:45 a.m.

Both buses were towed from the intersection and the public school bus received minor damage, police said.

The driver of the car was cited for failure to obey a stop sign, police said.

Comments

LogicMan 6 years ago

"Put her on the bus"Might be ruled "cruel and unusual punishment".

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doc1 6 years ago

She didn't blow the stop sign. She did stop and then she went. So I think its failure to yield at a stopsign.

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geniusmannumber1 6 years ago

lsense--1) What in your life have you experienced to make you think that income level is somehow correlated with driving skill?2) Why do you think that only rich people drive $7,000 cars?

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grimpeur 6 years ago

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bearded_gnome 6 years ago

hey ljworld editors! trees are people too! c'mon, get with the green revolution!okay, from reading these comments:the driver was obviously irresponsible because she was driving an SUV; she was driving a $7000 car; she is a high school student; or she doesn't routinely obey traffic signs and laws. it sounds as if she came to a stop, and then didn't stay stopped when other traffic was in or entering the intersection. not quite the same as blowing a stop sign, but charge might look like that???and others: diss bikes here. obviously, the person somehow distracted the 17-year-old SUV driver! or, maybe the SUV itself is at fault. you know, SUV's really are just plain evil! the SUV took control, darted out into the intersection in an effort by way of a "bank shot, to take out two buses, but it just wasn't quite fast enough to realize its sinister intent. yes, its SUV's, they're out to kill us all! now, if a T-bus had been involved ... OMG! no fault to 17-year-old driver, SUV, or even the tree that was in the way. no, it would be the emp-T bus. but KU and school buses, no comment. btw, it sounds as if one of those academic buses was empty? anyway, trees are people too oh the suffering of that great and noble tree! what will be done to care for it in its moment of trauma?

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oldvet 6 years ago

Poor baby, poor gimpy... get over it...

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atleastimnice 6 years ago

do you people have lives? this could have just as easily happened to any of you. you dont even know her she is a good girl and NOT a cheerleader! all she was trying to do was get to school on time is that a crime?

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Boeing 6 years ago

Infiniti (i, not y)Glad to hear everyone is ok! Curious to see what caused her to blow the sign...

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Confrontation 6 years ago

"this could have just as easily happened to any of you."I doubt that the rest of us are teenage girls who drive SUV's, so that statement is false.Hey, evolve, let's sure hope this isn't the same!

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atleastimnice 6 years ago

who says you have to be a teenage girl driving an SUV to get in a wreck?

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OrangeCat5 6 years ago

Thank the gods no one was hurt. I saw this happen from another KU bus that was turning from Naismith onto 21st. I didn't see the SUV until a second before the bus smashed into it. How on earth do you not see a bus?! I think there was a bike behind the yellow school bus, so things could have been much, much worse.

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Rick Aldrich 6 years ago

THEY'RE BAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kontum1972 6 years ago

try 11th and kasold..for blown stop signs..last nite i saw this same vehicle ..blow the stop sign there and she almost hit a guy on a bicycle..stop signs, red lights, school crossings etc etc.....mean nothing

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booze_buds_03 6 years ago

Rarebird must have been an invisibile person on the bus."No passengers were traveling on either bus, and no one was injured in the crash, police said. The wreck happened about 7:45 a.m."Liar

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Confrontation 6 years ago

Like, oh my gah! My cell phone was like totally ringing, and Kalli and Jenni (with an "i"), like totally involved me in their 3-way call. Cheerleading's important, ya'll!

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Confrontation 6 years ago

There's always someone on this board who claims to have been there. Don't always believe it.

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a_flock_of_jayhawks 6 years ago

RareBird (Anonymous) says:"The girl did not run the stop sign."Then why would she have been cited for failure to obey a stop sign?

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RareBird 6 years ago

The girl did not run the stop sign.There were 2 KU buses involved: the one that hit the SUV, and the one sitting in the left turn lane waiting to turn left onto Westbound 21st. The buses can not turn onto 21st when cars are waiting at the stop sign, so they have to wait until the Eastbound traffic leaves the Stop sign. This girl came to a full stop, then had to proceed across Naismith with the KU bus blocking her view to the south. She should have been more careful when her view was impaired, but she did not blow through the stop sign. I was a passenger on the bus that was there, but not in the collision.

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geniusmannumber1 6 years ago

1) "Her parents have got the money to buy/give her a vehicle like that, but not enough sense to teach her how to drive." So yes, you did say that. I bought my own car in high school. It was $2,500. A similar car (in make and today would cost about $6,000-7,000. I'm not sure I disagree with your assessment that because you think the girl in question didn't pay for the car herself, she said "Screw it, I'm running the light." And I'm not sure what her principal has to do with anything.2) Again, if you go down to either of the high school parking lots, I'm sure you'll find that at least half of the cars are going to be in the $6,000-10,000 dollar range. This isn't 1982. I'm sorry you think my question is "stupid." I'm also sorry that you feel the need to salve your deep-seated resentment of those better off than you by hauling off on a 17 year old because you suppose her parents make a comfortable living.

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Agent_X 6 years ago

as well as a passenger vehicle driven by a Lawrence High student on the way to school - injured only a tree.__________Hope the tree recovers fully from its injuries!

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geniusmannumber1 6 years ago

That's cute. All you know about this person is her age and what kind of car she drives, yet you're free to make wild speculations about her, her family, her values, the values of her parents, her work ethic, etc.However, when I draw conclusions from the actual words you're putting on this board, they're invalid, because I've never met you?

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cds 6 years ago

JackRipper (Anonymous) says: "Curious to see what caused her to blow the sign:"Surely you are kidding, this is Lawrence, when aren't people blowing stop signs. Put her on the bus, she has demonstrated she shouldn't have a license!____I'll place my bet on a cell phone/texting being used. Ditto the last 2 sentences.

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ukillaJJ 6 years ago

What an idiot -- I think that the student's parents are just as dumb too! Who in their right mind would buy a kid an almost-new luxury gas-guzzling SUV?

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oldvet 6 years ago

She thought she was still on her bicycle...

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d_prowess 6 years ago

Gnome: LOVE the T comment! As good as some of the comments have been for this story, they would have been great if a T bus was involved. And while I'm on it, can the LJ folks somehow tag stories about the T with something unique that people can then use to search? Entering in "T", really doesn't work well!

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RareBird 6 years ago

a_flock_of_jayhawks (Anonymous) says:""The girl did not run the stop sign."Then why would she have been cited for failure to obey a stop sign?"*Not yielding to oncoming traffic is probably a failure to obey. And being accused by a cop is not the same as being guilty of what you are accused of. My point was she came to a full stop. She only pulled across Naismith after it was obvious the bus was waiting for her to move.I challenge everyone who says "How can you not see a bus?" to go stand 20' from a KU bus, and try to see what is on the other side of it. Her vision around the bus waiting on Naismith in the left turn lane was hugely restricted. The situation at that corner is really dangerous - the KU buses need a strategy that doesn't include: 1) blocking the view of drivers headed East on 21st, 2) forcing those drivers to then proceed across Naismith by sitting in the left turn lane and waving them on. I suggest taking up 2 lanes and just making the turn when there is traffic waiting at the stop sign this girl was at.

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Boeing 6 years ago

"Surely you are kidding, this is Lawrence, when aren't people blowing stop signs."No I am not kidding...cell phone, stupidity, looking for something in her glove compartment...there are lots of things that could cause it - most likely all her fault, but there could be multiple causes. That's what I was getting at.

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Laura Watkins 6 years ago

they're back?? this was a high school student....

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RKLOG 6 years ago

Pretty typical of driving maneuvers in L-town. Where stop signs are only a suggestion.

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JayCat_67 6 years ago

Given the accounts of those that were actually there, it sounds like a case of youthful inexperience. My guess is that she learned more in .5 seconds today than in a whole week of driver's ed.

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itiswhatitis 6 years ago

tunahelper (Anonymous) says: this is why kids should NOT driveHey tuna, if idiots can express their views in a public forunm, (you might want to check your mirror) then kids should drive.

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RareBird 6 years ago

booze_buds_03 (Anonymous) says:"Liar"Before calling other's truthfulness into question, read the previous posts. There were 3 buses at the scene, 2 NB KU buses, 1 WB school bus. Only two were involved in the collision. I, and about a dozen others, were on the 3rd bus.

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JayCat_67 6 years ago

"who says you have to be a teenage girl driving an SUV to get in a wreck?"You don't, but the chances of it happening to a teenage driver, male or female, are much higher, which is why insurance costs so much more for young drivers. The SUV is really a non-issue other than it very well could have contributed to the fact that she wasn't hurt. Hopefully, she can just chalk this one up to experience and do better next time.

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lacoov 6 years ago

Go look at the parking lot at Naismith Hall and see what the new group of freshmen are driving..

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bearded_gnome 6 years ago

Atleastimnice,most of my comments were poking fun at the knowitalls before! I am glad she was in an SUV, it may have saved her life, probably saved her from harm. I would also add the poor girl actually has had a pretty scarey experience, and doesn't need to be dissed on here. good luck to her; I bet she's a perfect driver from here on.

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hawkfan08 6 years ago

Knowing this article got this girls age wrong, probably other things were over looked also, so being so critical about it is over the top.

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geekin_topekan 6 years ago

"...she is a good girl and NOT a cheerleader! "++++Umm...nah.Well,she almost made it to school.I have never thought that putting a newbie behind the wheel of advanced equipment was ever a good idea.The one wreck Ive been in(knock on wood) was a teen driving a suv.Nice payday though.

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Chris Ogle 6 years ago

Traffic is crazy this time of year. It takes about three weeks for drivers to adjust.At least no injuries.....however the tree didn't look very good.

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calnvy 6 years ago

biggunz....check autotrader... haha... there's an 02' for $9200... and a couple 2000 models for $7800-$8400.... those older infiniti's dont hold their value... mom and dad prolly just passed down the old car to the kiddie... uninformed people are constantly making assumptions about things they have no clue about (not you biggunz) when the reality is actually something quite different. Some assume that if you are driving a BMW or Mercedes, you are rich... a pre-owned luxury car can cost less than a brand new econo-chevy cobalt.

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Clickker 6 years ago

So we have decided as a community, that economic equality at the high schools are more important than safety and fuel conservation. This girl, like many others, lives about 1 mile from Free State, yet drives 5 miles to LHS. I'm sure there are others that live 1 mi from LHS and drive 5 miles tl FSHS. Thats 1400 miles/school year. Oh well, gotta keep the high schools 'equal'. I'm sure the idiots that are commenting on what a nice car she was driving ( in reality, it was not that extravagant) are the same ones that would be up in arms if she went to Free State.

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OonlyBonly 6 years ago

Boeing correct but "Infiniti" wouldn't pass the writers spellchecker so the writer undoubtedly changed it. There's be a lot of grammatical errors in the LJ-W lately.

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tunahelper 6 years ago

this is why kids should NOT drive

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years ago

Those accursed stealth blue buses... and, this time, a yellow casualty....( When will we learn? )

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Curtis Martell 6 years ago

Well another example of a teenage driver being involved in an accident. Reminds me so much of the people getting run over by cars while riding their bikes. The solution many suggested in that recent case was to ban bikes from the roads. Obviously a similar resolution should be applied now in order to elminate all motor vehicle accidents - ban teenage drivers from driving. New driving age will be 20 or 21. That should solve the problem and prevent more accidents like this one making Lawrence a safe place to ride a bus again. OK, end sarcastic comment. People, there is no solution. Accidents happen. And they happen so often, it's not really even NEWS exept for the fact there was a nice picture of the carnage for LJW to run. Oh and Isense et al, that is a ridiculous conclusion to draw about someone you don't even know is, well, uninformed and ignorant. What if the car belonged to her parents?

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years ago

rdragon: "Where are the bark chasing lawyers? This tree is intitled to some serious green, well that is after the bark chasing lawyer takes there 33% plus exspences"So... after the tree is felled?

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Sigmund 6 years ago

tunahelper (Anonymous) says: "this is why kids should NOT drive"And the millions of teen drivers who everyday safely go to school, work, and hookups are not a reasons to allow kids to drive?

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bearded_gnome 6 years ago

Where are the bark chasing lawyers? This tree is intitled to some serious green, well that is after the bark chasing lawyer takes there 33% plus exspencesoh, those lawyers are just saps, leaf them alone! yes, this is acorny joke. too many lawsuits already stem from faultless tree accidents.

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hoosier 6 years ago

How pitiful are you people? Everyone will be in some sort of an accident at some point in their lives. Whether you are a driver or a passenger--young teen, young adult, middle aged, or retired----everyone experiences an accident. That's why they are called accidents. Did you go looking to be in an accident or were you just in the wrong place at the wrong time or were you in the right place but fate determined you as the unlucky person of the moment? Give the young lady a break. I'm sure your parents or spouses gave you a break. Get off your pompous pedestals. You people are not perfect. Who cares how much the car is worth? Everyone is safe. That's most important. It sickens me that you people think that the depth of parents' bank accounts determines a person's ability to drive a car. Parents are forced to allow their kids to drive to school or pay high fees for the student to ride the school buses. Parents have to work in order to pay for the extensive fees that are charged by schools. A young lady can't even walk to school or anywhere else alone safely these days thanks to all of the predators. Predators who are waiting for such an opportunity.

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M. Lindeman 6 years ago

Where are the bark chasing lawyers? This tree is intitled to some serious green, well that is after the bark chasing lawyer takes there 33% plus exspences

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