Letters to the Editor

Impeachable crimes

August 20, 2008


To the editor:

Back in the '70s Gerald Ford was credited for "saving" the presidency by stopping the investigations into the crimes of the Nixon administration. More recently, the Supreme Court did us a similar service by stopping the recount in the presidential election in Florida and awarding the presidency to George Bush.

I submit that these actions did irreparable harm to the office of the president and to the country as a whole. In preventing the country from understanding the criminal acts of our leaders and in failing to hold those wrongdoers accountable - in fact, in allowing them to profit unimpeded from their crimes - those in Congress who failed to prosecute these crimes became complicit in them.

I'd be happy to list the crimes of the Bush conspiracy, though I'm certain my list would be sadly incomplete. Many are the accounts of impeachable and treasonous offenses done by the current administration, such as lying to Congress and the American people in order to invade Iraq, condoning torture and wiretapping citizens.

As long as we see our leaders taking part in crimes against our own and other nations' citizens, how can we expect our citizens to obey laws that sometimes ask them to act against their own immediate self-interest?

In short, Congress must impeach George Bush and his co-conspirators, prosecute them for their crimes and apply the punishment they so richly deserve. Our Constitution demands action and will not survive long without it.

Bob Gent,


jaywalker 9 years, 8 months ago

How is it exactly that Agnostick always seems to know (or pretends to know) who's who, who's posing under which username? I can't tell if it's fanciful pre-occupation, spending waaaaay too much time on these boards, hacker activity, or just plain silly. It is definitely annoying and wholly pointless.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 8 months ago

Republican Voodoo economics killing the economy!US bank 'to fail within months'Wall StA "whopper" bank is going to "go under", Mr Rogoff saidThe global financial crisis is set to get worse, with a large US bank likely to collapse in the next few months, a former IMF chief economist has warned.Kenneth Rogoff's comments came as shares in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac sank on a report that the home lenders would, in effect, be nationalised.Despite hopes that the US economy had turned the corner, Mr Rogoff claimed it was "not out of the woods"."I would even go further to say 'the worst is to come',"http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7569903.stm=============================Der Spiegel said, "the Fed, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the major investment banks, mortgage banks and hedge funds will be asked to hand over confidential documents to the IMF team. They will be required to answer the questions they are asked during interviews. Their databases will be subjected to so-called stress tests - worst-case scenarios designed to simulate the broader effects of failures of other major financial institutions or a continuing decline of the dollar."Der Spiegel reports that the IMF is threatening to seriously study the accounts of America, something President George Bush is determined to prevent at least while he is in the White House, informing the IMF that it can begin its investigation but cannot complete it until he leaves office. ===================No end in sight to nations over stocked housing market slump according to IMF:http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=ao8IfKzWFWwQ&refer=news===================Who has been cooking the books? Bush must know which is why he will not cooperate.

fan4kufootball 9 years, 8 months ago

I never did figure out why Clinton remained in office after he was "impeached"?

ConcernedAmerican 9 years, 8 months ago

You ALL should read Vincent Bugliosi's, "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder." This man is no hack. I lived in Los Angeles right after the Tate/LaBiancha murders and then District Attorney Bugliosi handled the prosecution of the decade; Charles Manson and company. He lays out exactly how any or all of the Attorney Generals of any and all states could prosecute George Bush for the murders of all the soldiers sent to and killed in Iraq based on the undeniable truth that Bush and Company led us to war based on flat out lies. They knew what they were doing and used whatever means necessary to take us to war. There were NO WMD's and there was no connection of Saddam H. to 9/11. Yet these were the basic full blown lies given to the American public to take us to a senseless war with no legitimate outcome in sight. And now, what next, Iran? When one of your sons or daughters die in this fiasco in the name of "freedom" so you can buy cheaper gas for your SUV, or make Halliburton the richest corporation on earth (next to Exxon of course), we will see how much you will want to spend your wasted time on these blogs defending criminals which make up the current administration.

Tony Kisner 9 years, 8 months ago

Big Al's comments ring true. Your guys impeached our guy so we want to impeach your guy...

SloMo 9 years, 8 months ago

Bush should not be impeached. He should be at the Haig being tried for crimes against humanity!!

David Omar 9 years, 8 months ago

Regardless of what Clinton did or didn't do is irrelevant. He is not the president today. The Dems don't have enough votes to impeach and they prudently left it alone and not started this war in congress. Our country is severely divided and we will continue this as long as the leaders play partisan politics all the time. This must end or our democracy will be eroded until the country ends.

Flap Doodle 9 years, 8 months ago

The copy/paste function is getting all overheated this morning.

Charles L. Bloss, Jr. 9 years, 8 months ago

You are nutz! After 9/11 we could not have had a better President than George Bush. He united the country to take on the threat of terrorism, he combined many agencies into the Department of Homeland Security to work together, share information, etc. to make our country safe. We would not have gone to war, had he not had credible information about weapons of mass destruction. I still believe they are there, buried in the desert somewhere, Hussein was very crafty. After 9/11 there has not been one major terrorism attack in this country, why because we are fighting the terrorists where they live and train. Thank you, Lynn

jayhawklawrence 9 years, 8 months ago

At least the great leader of the Republican Party gave us some good laughs...Try this link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DK...

Richard Heckler 9 years, 8 months ago

Clintons affair had nothing to do with breaking and entering plus wiretapping democrat offices...a crime aka Watregate:http://www.watergate.info/Clintons affair did not measure up to Iran Contra:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/peopleevents/pande08.htmlClintons affair did not cost anyone their savings and loan retirement accountshttp://rationalrevolution.net/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htmClintons affair did not measure up to lying to the nation about sending social security into Wall Street at a cost of trillions of dollars:http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.htmlClintons affair was not worth $53 million dollars republicans spent looking for matters that had nothing to do with his time as president.Clintons affair is a perfect example of republican preoccupation with other peoples sex lives considering Newt Gingrich was doing the same thing at the time repubs were bothering Clinton.Republican crimes since Nixon would be hard to match.

Paul R Getto 9 years, 8 months ago

"Your guys impeached our guy so we want to impeach your guy:"Sort of, some of the managers of Clinton's case admitted that some of the motivation was a payback for the attempted impeachment of one R. Nixon. We are "even" now; let's all settle down.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 8 months ago

What about this misrepresentation:"Alaska has more oil than the Middle East!"Have you heard that there's enough oil in Alaska to supply the United States for the next two centuries, more than in the entire Middle East, but a government plot is keeping it underground? If so, attribute it to Lindsey Williams, a kind of oil evangelist, who's been making these claims since the 1970s.Back then, Williams coauthored a book, "The Energy Non Crisis," asserting that vast political machinations were preventing oil companies from exploiting Alaska's riches. Today he's on YouTube, saying Alaska has "possibly the largest oil pool on the face of the earth," which remains untapped "by order of the government." New drilling, Williams suggests, will lower gas prices within 12 months. If you like implausible oil stories, this is for you. One of Williams' YouTube clips has been viewed nearly 500,000 times, and a generic version of the story holds that Alaska has more oil than the Arabian peninsula.Now consider reality on Alaska's North Slope, the oil area that includes the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It can take two or three years to drill a single exploratory well there, because such drilling is only possible for a few months at a time in the winter, when the permafrost is frozen hard enough to support equipment. Meanwhile, infrastructure can be transported there only by ship, in two or three summer months. To drill permanent wells, oil companies lay down a thick gravel "pad," acres in size, which allows for year-round drilling, by keeping equipment and housing safe from summer thaws and preventing them from melting the permafrost. Pipeline corrosion problems have been extensive. The EIA forecasts that if Congress opened up ANWR, it would take eight to 12 years to even start production.Does this sound like a place that will produce more oil than the Middle East? Alaska is about the same size as Iran, four-fifths as big as Saudi Arabia, and huge portions of the state consist of mountain ranges where drilling is impossible. The EIA estimates that about 10.4 billion barrels of oil can be recovered from ANWR, just over a year of American consumption. Saudi Arabia alone has about 260 billion barrels of proven oil reserves. The verdict here: Get real.http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/08/18/oil_myths/

BigAl 9 years, 8 months ago

RestoreReason (Anonymous) says: When are moonbats such as Bob Gent going to give it a rest? The reason he cannot list impeachable crimes is because there have been none. If there had, we all know that the Democrats in Congress would have gone after Bush and Cheney already. They can't help it-that's their nature.My advice to Mr. Gent: Get a life. Your whining has grown very, very old.********************How quick the right-wing lemmings forget. The Republicans spent millions and millions of taxpayer dollars and 8 years doing nothing but going after Bill Clinton for lying about sex. And now we have RestoreReason saying this is a Democrat Nature? The Republicans started this whole bunch of gotcha politics and now they whine like school girls when it smacks them in the face. They hated Clinton so much. but, but Clinton.....

Flap Doodle 9 years, 8 months ago

You know, I'd swear I just saw this same post by merrilll somewhere else today.

Mkh 9 years, 8 months ago

"In short, Congress must impeach George Bush and his co-conspirators, prosecute them for their crimes and apply the punishment they so richly deserve. Our Constitution demands action and will not survive long without it."----------------------------------------The problem Bob is that the leadership in Congress won't act because they will also have to be included in those who lied to the American public and committed acts of treason. This is why Pelosi and Rockefeller immediately took impeachment off the table...any type of real investigation would open a can of worms that could sink their entire ship.Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of holding these criminals accountable...you just can't expect fellow criminals to turn in each other. After all, in organized crime there is nothing worse than being a "rat".

Daytrader23 9 years, 8 months ago

Anonymous userRestoreReason (Anonymous) says:When are moonbats such as Bob Gent going to give it a rest? The reason he cannot list impeachable crimes is because there have been none. If there had, we all know that the Democrats in Congress would have gone after Bush and Cheney already. They can't help it-that's their nature.My advice to Mr. Gent: Get a life. Your whining has grown very, very old.----------------------------------------When will wingnuts become educated and realize that even though the dems and reps. argue in front of a camera, they are both on the same team behind the scenes. So as said before no one wants to be a "rat". So stop electing them. Now there is a simple answer.

jonas 9 years, 8 months ago

Andrew Stahmer (Andrew Stahmer) says:"All of this will pale if we have a catastrophic Obama presidency. Not only would it most likely distroy the office of president:it would probably distroy the USA as we know it today."No cookies for you till you tell us how this will happen.

tom_bodett 9 years, 8 months ago

Great...another Bush bashing article in the LJW. Never seen one of those in this paper before.

Mkh 9 years, 8 months ago

RestoreReason (Anonymous) says: Gnome:"And, of course, what the dishonest moonbats such as Agnostick want us to ignore is that everything they claim is an impeachable offense regarding Bush was earlier done by Clinton. Clinton said Iraq had WMD, said Iraq had operational ties with al Qaeda, launched a preemptive attack on Iraq, used depleted uranium in the Balkans, launched an illegal war of choice on Kosovo, enacted the policy of extraordinary rendition, looked the other way as terror suspects were tortured, conducted warrantless searches of public housing, etc., etc. In addition, it was Clinton's policies vis-Ã -vis Iraq-especially sanctions that contributed to the deaths of 567,000 Iraqi children under five-that ultimately gave us 9/11.They don't want to discuss the past because it exposes their current hypocrisy."--------------------------------------------------------------RR:Please note my first post in this thread. Both sides have lying to you, that is why neither side wants to carry through on impeachment....they have both lied and committed Treason, among many other impeachable offenses.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 8 months ago

gent doesn't list the "crimes" because there are none! if you ref the valorie flame/plame matter, the unsecret analyst was parking her car publicly in the CIA parking lot when she went to work FGS! and, it wasn't a member of the administration who "outed" her, it was Richard Armitage! the reason clinton comes up, first raised by far-left-fringie "big al" is that many of you screaming for impeachment of Bush defended Clinton. the following is still true in reality, which is certainly separate from liberal hot air and Dailykos hate:clintonia was the most investigated, most indicted, most convicted, most jailed, administration in american history. clinton is the first president ever to be fined and disbarred for actions during his presidency. and, it wasn't "just about sex." history now shows that clinton was paralyzed by the scandal from 1998 on. but, when you ref:offenses done by the current administration, such as lying to Congress and the American people in order to invade Iraq, condoning torture and wiretappingcitizens.then you must acknowledge that in 1998 was the bill signed by clinton calling for regime change in iraq. there was the missiling of iraq, meant to destroy Saddam's "nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons" [quote from bill clinton]. many of us wish the left would* go ahead and impeach GWB. it would be wonderful to have all their inuendo and lies brought up before the light of day, and all exposed as just vapors. finally, as to closing gitmo, you want to do that? really? then where do we put those dozens of "guests?" most likely leavenworth; so you're saying, literally, you want leavenworth to become terrorist target number one! so why do you hate leavenworth so much?

jonas 9 years, 8 months ago

jaywalker: In this regard, I think it's Agno's 3 years on the board. If you stay here more than one, you'll see for yourself. A few. . . distinctive voices keep popping up over and over again, staying for a little bit before getting booted, and then coming back. Some have more than others. Less annoying that some other things on these boards, but I agree with you that it's pretty pointless.

igby 9 years, 8 months ago

This one really brought out "the children of the corn", moonbats! Lol.

ASBESTOS 9 years, 8 months ago

"More recently, the Supreme Court did us a similar service by stopping the recount in the presidential election in Florida and awarding the presidency to George Bush."Climb down off your cross, take the wood and build a bridge, and get over it. On the Iraq war you would have to impeach all the Senators and Representatives that voted for it, and continued to vote to approve funding of the war. Anything less is partisian cop out and politically myopic.

Larry Bauerle Jr. 9 years, 8 months ago

So, we begin impeachment hearings when Congress resumes its business. Say they actually work quickly and the House finishes its part of the action by, say, the middle of October. Then the Senate begins and they finish by, perhaps the end of the year. (Neither would work this fast, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) This would mean we could then get a new president. If you bother to check, we elect a new one November 4, to take office January 20. Meanwhile, real issues are left on the table to make the conspiracy people happy that they finally got Bush impeached. Let the next 4 months of his administration end quietly, which they will as a lame duck president, then find another axe to grind and proposal to make, ad nauseam.

uncleandyt 9 years, 7 months ago

Sorry I'm late. I just read through most of the comments. It's baffling to me how the Storyclingers insist that Bush has done nothing wrong. They pretend that 35 articles of impeachment are not sitting in the House. Your Emporer is very naked.

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