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Impeach Bush

September 1, 2007

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To the editor:

The American people have been lied to and have been used by the Bush-Cheney administration. They have run a secret government with wide-sweeping secret changes against the people and democracy. They need to be held accountable, and impeachment is the only way to do that. We need to send a message that this kind of corruption and misuse of power will not be tolerated.

Robert Heckler,

Lecompton

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KS 7 years, 10 months ago

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kansas778 7 years, 10 months ago

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busymom 7 years, 10 months ago

Hum, I recall NOT voting for bush in the last election. Of course, anymore when politics are involved it is picking the lesser of the evils.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 10 months ago

Bush is over. His entire second term has been as a lame duck. Bush is not worth the time and effort to impeach. Let's just let him fade into the sunset and use political will and effort to confront and solve the problems that Bush has caused and/or neglected for seven years.

I would agree with impeachment if Bushco mattered anymore. They do not.

Scott Drummond 7 years, 10 months ago

One of the constitutional duties of the president is to secure the country from foreign invasion. During the last 7 years bush & co. have deliberately turned a blind eye and allowed millions of illegal immigrants to flood the country. These criminal intruders have stolen jobs from American citizens and had the effect of artificially depressing wages for the vast majority of the citizens of this country, have stolen public assistance benefits from the taxpayers of this country and have crowded and spoiled our countryside with millions of unwanted occupants. For allowing these injuries to be done to the citizens of this country, along with all the other crimes and constitutional injustices that he has committed, this president must be impeached.

I am fully aware that this would result in dick cheney taking the office of president. It is good for Americans to see the naked abuse of power, however, and cheney would either be an extremely wounded caretaker president, or would so quickly wear out his welcome that the reaction of the citizenry would be beneficial.

classclown 7 years, 10 months ago

Gee. I can't wait until another President takes office so I can hear "Impeach insert name here " for 4-8 years.

bearded_gnome 7 years, 10 months ago

but wait, CC, if a Republican is elected, then we'll hear the endless saga from the foilhat army about how the machines were rigged!

Bush will not be impeached, and people like this LTE writer will simply have their heads exploding at the end of his term.

oh, Clinton was not impeached for a BJ, Amie, he lied under oath and used the powers of his office to interfere with the rights of an american to seek redress in court. he is the only president both disbarred and fined for such.
despite you losers repeating the same line, there is no actual proof that Bush lied. I say, bring on the impeachment, as it will make you and your defeatocrat leaders look like what you are. trying to impeach a president while he is engaged in defending this country, based on the "slam dunk" intel he was given by the Clinton-appointed CIA chief! if you were president you'd have done the same.
stop trying to revise history.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

beaded_gmoron- "trying to impeach a president while he is busy defending this country." Hardly. He's following the imperialistic PNAC agenda (look it up) and destroying our national security in the process.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

Even though the rubber-stamp Congress last year insulated the White House from violations of the War Crimes Act with the Military Commisions Act, there are charges being drawn up on the International level regarding the war crimes committed by this regime. This is an illegal war under the United Nations.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

ROFL when the International court convicts Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld of war crimes.

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 10 months ago

Impeachment of President Clinton was achieved by support from both parties (Democrat and Republican). That is the only way that I believe a President should be impeached. I don't hear any republicans calling for impeachment, so this is nothing more than sore-loser, spoil-sport, partisan, I hate Bush, political banter.

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 10 months ago

MIck wrote Even though the rubber-stamp Congress last year insulated the White House...

Let me guess... you didn't vote for any of these people. lol.

If they are a rubber stamp congress then I guess you won't be voting for any of them to return. Not even Nancy Boyda?

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 10 months ago

Oh my gosh. Another one escaped from the looney bin!!!!!!!!

Like sourcewatch.org is a reliable source for anything that is true or unbiased.

You just got booed off the stage Mr. Standup. Bring on the next comedian.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

ROFLMAO when I see beaded_gmoron state that Bush is "engaged in defending this country." Yeah, right.

erod0723 7 years, 10 months ago

We should impeach Bush just to keep the political pundits entertained for a couple of years. We need to make it into as big a circus as possible. Just imagine, a big ass tent in the capitol building. It would be awesome.

Nick Yoho 7 years, 10 months ago

We MUST Impeach,or it sends a message to future presidents that they too can wipe their *sses with the constitution.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, like Bush said, "It's just a g.d. piece of paper." He sure fooled a lot of fundies.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

"mick (Anonymous) says: ROFL when the International court convicts Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld of war crimes." I do hope you are not holding a cork in your fundament whilst waiting for that to happen.

storm 7 years, 10 months ago

Three in four people in both of the last elections DID NOT vote for Bush. A clear message has been sent.

chet_larock 7 years, 10 months ago

Wow. "He's" been spotted again. Already. Tick tock, tick tock...

nomorebobsplease 7 years, 10 months ago

You're from Lecompton?? C'mon, 'fess up. You voted for Bush......

Richard Heckler 7 years, 10 months ago

If the USA can spend $53 million on the sex life of Clinton sure we can find time and money to put BUSHCO behind bars.

"It's just a goddamned piece of paper " http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=It's+just+a+god+damned+peice+of+paper&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

ljwreader1 7 years, 10 months ago

It does not matter if it's Republican or Democrat--the only "close to honorable" presidents in the last 50 years were Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. Yet, even they had corrupt people in their administration. Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, Bush-1, Clinton and Bush-2 have all proven to be unethical, dishonorable, self-serving, profiteers. However, history will show that Bush-2 sold the soul of the presidency and the soul of the country to corporate fascism.

Godot 7 years, 10 months ago

Jimmy Carter? That angry, vengeful man?

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

"storm (Anonymous) says: Three in four people in both of the last elections DID NOT vote for Bush. A clear message has been sent."

Do you mean the percentage of people who voted? If so, you might want to check your math there. For 2004, CNN gives the results as: Bush, 62,040,606 (51% of the total votes cast); Kerry, 59,028,109 (49%).

Or do you mean the percentage of people who are of voting age who voted in 2004? If so, then Bush got 28% of the possible votes. By way of comparison, in 1996, Clinton got 24% of the possible votes. I suppose a clear message was sent there too. Election results taken from CNN, number of registered voters from wiki.

But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

staff04 7 years, 10 months ago

"I'd like to see that web site. Where is it?"

You just can't stay away, can you?

Question for LJW editors: How many times does the same person have to get kicked off of this forum before you block his IP Address?

Kathy Getto 7 years, 10 months ago

Don't impeach, try him as the war criminal he is.

kansas778 7 years, 10 months ago

I wish, hope, and pray that the dems try to impeach bush. It would be the death of that party for decades. You libs think your righteous outrage at bush's "crimes" should be well received by the public, but when you actually say that moonbat stuff out loud, people laugh at you inside (never to your face, you crazy people are scary at times). So please please please try to impeach bush, it'll make this country a safer place by killing off the democratic party.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

Bush says of the Constitution, "It's just a g.d. piece of paper!" Source, CapitolHillBlue Dec9, 2005. Why do you need a source anyway? Actions speak louder than words.

kansas778 7 years, 10 months ago

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staff04 7 years, 10 months ago

Sorry Mick, as I'm almost always on your side, and I don't disagree with you that Bush has pushed the limits of that piece of paper nor will I dismiss the notion that he has violated some laws.

Capitol Hill Blue is a satire publication--not as good as The Onion, but satire, nonetheless.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 10 months ago

Just a Goddamned Piece of Paper"

By GARY LEUPP

Doug Thompson, publisher of Capitol Hill Blue, says he's talked to three people present last month when Republican Congressional leaders met with President Bush in the Oval Office to talk about renewing the Patriot Act. That act, passed by legislators who hadn't read it, in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 (when most people were shell-shocked and lawmakers in particular disinclined to use their brains), has of course been criticized as containing unconstitutional elements. All three GOP politicians quote their president as saying: "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

At least one of Thompson's sources says the president, when told his insistence on preserving some provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives following the Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination disaster, stated, "I don't give a goddamn: I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

Gary Leupp: "Just a Goddamned Piee of Paper" It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" At least one of Thompson's sources says the president, when told his insistence on preserving some provisions of the ... www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html - 117k - Cached - Similar pages

Richard Heckler 7 years, 10 months ago

Pot Growers Are New Target in "War on Terror" By Scott Thill, AlterNet. Posted August 29, 2007.

Under Bush, terror has become a justification for any and every abuse of power.

Last time we checked in on the bizarro nexus between cannabis and terrorism, it was none other than actor/director Tommy Chong who was feeling the Bush administration's post-9/11 wrath. In fact, the stoner icon, whose fabled act was concurrently resuscitated for Fox's drugged and confused comedy hit That 70s Show, was being slapped by John Ashcroft with a nine-month prison bid, a $20,000 fine and over $100,000 in seized assets for selling bongs. The terrorism connection? He was sentenced on Sept. 11, 2003. And if you think that's a specious connection, it's only gotten worse since. In fact, over the last few years, "terrorist" has become an epithet for all seasons.

In 2003, Iraq occupation architect Richard Perle slapped investigative journalist Seymour Hersh with the term, saying, "Look, Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist, frankly." As if filing a story about the doomed occupation of a sovereign state in the pages of the New Yorker was the same thing as flying a 747 into the World Trade Center.

In 2004, Secretary of Education Rod Paige called the National Education Association, the country's largest teachers union, "a terrorist organization" because of what Paige defined as the "obstructionist scare tactics" used by its lobbyists. Because we all know it's every educator's dream to buck the systemby blowing themselves up in front of their students.

And just this month, the Bush administration decided to employ the term to legally target the entire Iranian Revolutionary Guard, a sovereign nation's standing army numbering in the hundreds of thousands. When you want a war that badly, you'll pretty much do or say anything to get it.

So how does the Bush administration get away with crying terrorist at every opportunity? Say hello to the Military Commissions Act. Thanks to this 2006 piece of legislation, terrorism has become the basis of American foreign and domestic policy. Yes, the term has become equivalent to everything from ideologically driven violence to petty theft, and can be used to incarcerate, exterminate or character assassinate anything in sight.

It's no wonder then that federal officials are now revisiting their previously failed effort to link terrorism to cannabis, the only real cash cow in the government's so-called War on Drugs. Only difference is, this time, they don't have Tommy Chong as a scapegoat.

Unable or unwilling to solve the nation's crippling meth addiction or its hypocritical dependency on prescribed

more: http://www.alternet.org/story/60854/

bearded_gnome 7 years, 10 months ago

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bearded_gnome 7 years, 10 months ago

and, logy cites the president's approval ratings, that's a hoot! apparently he/she/it is reading old stuff or only what makes it in the wacko blogs.
the president's approval rating is headed up, at nearly 40%.
the dem lead congress' approval in the same poll is headed down at 14%. so the president's is more than twice that of the dem lead house and senate. a recent poll by Zogby (sp?) showed approval for the congress on its handling of Iraq was 3%...that is about the same as zero, perfect null if measurement error etc. is considered! try again Logie, you really blew it! ROTFLMAO

bearded_gnome 7 years, 10 months ago

mERRILL ALSO QUITE VACUOUSLY CITED THE SATIRICAL SOURCE AS FACT...AND THE HITS JUST KEEP ON COMIN'!


KANSAS778, I agree with you on this one, what can we lowly citizens of these united states do to promote this outcome for the good of our country? I wish, hope, and pray that the dems try to impeach bush. It would be the death of that party for decades. You libs think your righteous outrage at bush's "crimes" should be well received by the public, but when you actually say that moonbat stuff out loud, people laugh at you inside (never to your face, you crazy people are scary at times). So please please please try to impeach bush, it'll make this country a safer place by killing off the democratic party.

Kathy Getto 7 years, 10 months ago

In The Federalist Papers, Hamilton and Madison made clear that impeachment was a remedy not so much for indictable crimes as for those offenses that subverted the system of government itself. Bush and Cheney have violated the legal guarantees of habeas corpus; they have spied on Americans without the oversight of courts or Congress; they have authorized the torture of prisoners, in violation of the Geneva Conventions, and the kidnapping of suspects in a number of nations. Don't you think an attempt to impeach Bush will make the following goals; ending the involvement of U.S. forces in the Iraq War, providing the American people with secure and universal health care, even wheeling back the unchecked executive power that Bush and his vice president have substituted for our system of checks and balances; harder to achieve?

Just because Bush and Cheney deserve to be impeached and convicted doesn't make it the right thing to do.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_trouble_with_impeachment

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 10 months ago

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matahari 7 years, 10 months ago

I don't know about impeachement, but I know that it seems like at the end of presidents' terms, that pass a LOT of laws, let a lot of people off the hook, and do things that they wouldn't do mid term as they would have to take resposibility or it at that time.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 10 months ago

This editorial could have been written about any of the last 6 presidents, with the possible exception of Carter (the honest loser). Grow up. Secretive, power abusers are the norm in the White House.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

Idiots like beaded_gmoron seem to think that those who disagree with Bush are liberals. I'm not liberal and I'm not a Democrat. Since when did "conservative" come to mean war pig, 100s of $billions in deficit spending, ruining our Constitution, making this country the world nuisance? No, these things are not "conservative" they are Republican. It started with Reagan and the people are starting to realize it.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

Don't blame Reagan personally, he was just a puppet, as is Bush.

knowledgematters 7 years, 10 months ago

It is hard to be objective about political matters. We align ourselves with certain people usually and listen only to what they have to say. It helps us feel like we belong to something. I would think it better to try hard to think for yourself. Think about the consequences of decisions that are made. How are you personally affected and how are people that you know and know about affected? I think that name calling and putting down of people is clearly an indication that objectivity is lost and one is only then defending a position, not really thinking. Think about this. If someone committed a crime against you, do you think you would do everything to see that that person was brought to justice, or would you say, well they will be gone in a few years, so let it go? I think this is what is at issue. What will be gained by allowing politicians to deceive and take advantage of us, especially when it leads to so much death and destruction? Good that people are discussing this issue, but hopefully with a purpose to really search for a meaningful solution. I find that when people really look at how they are affected by decisions and also when they have to really solve problems, then labels and categories become much less of concern. We have a number of problems to solve now. We have a terrible destructive war going on creating massive numbers of terminated and effectively broken lives. We have increasing poverty and decreasing resources for creating a strong and healthy America. Do you think that allowing self-serving politicians to continue determining the course of this country is going to help turn things around? You can say it is hopeless or at least try to act like you live in a democracy, which means having to take stands and work hard for what you think is good. I plan on taking stands and working hard for what I think is likely to make this a better country.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

As a matter of fact, Nancy Boyda was not part of the rubber-stamp Congress. That would be Jim Ryun.

coneflower 7 years, 10 months ago

I agree impeachment of Bush and Cheney - starting with Cheney - is practically vital to the survival of our nation. It is important for all the obvious reasons, and also for this one: it is important for Americans to show the rest of the world that BuchCo's abuse of power is not ok with us. It is important to show the world and future generations that America recognizes and admits her mistakes, and has the courage to fix them.

Watching BushCo's flying monkeys resign, one by one, is entertaining though. Who will be next?

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 10 months ago

It is not unusual at all for a lame duck President's staff to resign and move on before the presidency is actually over. Why don't you folks brush up on your history. President Bush isn't seeing any more "turn-over" than any other previous president as far as I can see.

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 10 months ago

Babboy wrote: TJ: You are aware that the impeachment process against Clinton failed badly ...

Actually, President Clinton was impeached by the house of representatives and acquitted by the Senate. Rightfully so, since that is our system. It doesn't change the fact that what he did was wrong, no matter how a person defines "is".

lounger 7 years, 10 months ago

Amen! Throw them out of the white house!

lounger 7 years, 9 months ago

In regards to the enviormental disasters that have happend on bushes watch he should be impeached on that alone....

Centrist 7 years, 10 months ago

How long before the end of the Clinton era was he "impeached" ? Check the dates on that one ... wasn't that a massive waste of time and money? I mean, wasn't he "near the end" of his term, too? Was Kenneth Starr really worth his salary? Come on ...

And why is it different for Bush & Co ? (Obviously a rhetorical question that no-one seems to be able to properly answer ..)

Just because we got tax cuts? Is that it?

Hooray for Bush, my tax return is bigger these days, so I'll wave the flag and give him a leave pass for anything at all.

Gimme a break! Even conservatives should criticise a bad administration, whomever they are.

Why SHOULD they get away with ILLEGALLY wiretapping us and DEFRAUDING us on Iraq ?

Illegal is illegal. Lying is lying. Lying about a BJ is far less severe than lying about a war that has cost REAL lives, and $Billions (and possibly for generations to come as the terrorists grow in numbers).

And no, I'm NOT a freaking liberal.

knowledgematters 7 years, 10 months ago

When Clinton was concerned about weapons of mass destruction, there were reasons to be concerned. That was why steps were taken to find and destroy the weapons and they were. We had inspectors on the ground to verify. You can say that Sadam did not cooperate, but in spite of that, inspecting still worked and Sadam lost his ability to wage war effectively. Of course, he did not want people in the region to know that or he would have been an easy target. Our intelligence and experts on Iraq had more reason to think that Iraq was not a danger to us than they did to think that Iraq was a danger. In spite of that, Bush and company cherry picked old unimportant information, which was known to be out of date and was considered by the experts to be of little use. He included in his state of the uninon address, information about the aluminum tubes. The press had already reported that it was unlikely that those tubes could be used for a nuclear program. That didn't stop Bush from using that useless information to promote his war. Experts warned Bush that taking down Sadam would have a destabilizing effect on the country. Experts predicted that having our military there would act as a lightning rod for Al Queda. Did Bush listen to them? We know the answer to that. Fools rush in and now we know the results of that, a lot of death and destruction, with no end in sight. Now we have the U N involved. Did Bush want the U N involvement? He and the radical neocons believed that the U S could do better to go it alone. There was no thought of cooperation. The U S corporations went over there to make money and they certainly have accomplished that, at a huge expense to the American taxpayers and to the innocent lives of the Iraqis and our soldiers. So, should we just let them Bush and company go on having there way a little while longer? How much more damage can they cause in another year and a half and then if another Republican gets in, how do we know that they won't also continue the same approach with the American people? Why not, if Bush can get away with it.

ralphralph 7 years, 10 months ago

"... this kind of corruption and misuse of power will not be tolerated."

? ... as opposed to the other kinds of corruption and misuse of power that will be tolerated? Actually, best as I can see, we will tolerate ANY kind of conduct by the guy on "our side", whatever side that happens to be. They're all a bunch of whores, and it doesn't really matter who gets elected, they turn into the same thing.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

GWB will be remembered as one of our greatest presidents. And, I don't even particularly like the guy.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 10 months ago

Bush is the worst leader in the history of the USA and maybe the world has ever seen. BUSHCO is a world problem....they should be behind bars.

knowledgematters- A 1997 newsweek story said almost exactly what you stated. I read it about two years ago. Iraq was a USA declared no fly zone soooo not to much was going to take place with USA fighter jets constantly taking out Iraq artillery and radar sites.

As I said if Bush was truly concerned with terrorists he would have ordered Cheney,Wolfowitz,Adm Poindexter and himself locked up behind prison bars. The world would rejoice.

Scott Tichenor 7 years, 10 months ago

"Weapons of mass destruction" "Mission Accomplished!" "I'll remove anyone involved on my team that outed Valerie Plame" "You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie!" "I will never forget the people of New Orleans" "Alberto Gonzalez has my full confidence" "Donald Rumsfeld has my full confidence" "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully"

What's next? Progress is being made in Iraq?

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

No wartime pres. has a high approval rating. FDR and Harry T. had low ratings too, so ratings prove nothing about how a pres. will be remembered. GWB's legacy will be that he took the fight to the enemy and made the world aware of the evil designs of religious fanatics. Heard on the news this AM that Germany has over 300 suspected terrorists on full-time surveillance. 20 years ago, that wouldn't have happened. All you Bush haters are going to be eating your words. GWB will be remembered for being the right person in the right place at the right time.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Had Jon Carry been elected, I can just see him sitting in the Oval Office in a daze, holding his head in his hands as the pieces fall around him. God forbid. Yep, like him or not, GWB came around at the right time.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Too many people in this blog just hate GWB. Clouds their otherwise muddled judgement.

Bubbles 7 years, 10 months ago

That's and eazy one. liberals hate Bush as much as the terrorists do.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Logicsound, you spew a lot of BS. Even the military experts are having a hard time with this war, but you seem to have it all figured out. A little knowledge is dangerous and you're armed to the teeth. I like Col Angus' assumption, you categorically hate Bush, therefore you're on the side of the terrorists. You are a terrorist lover. At best you are an opinionated boor.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Logicsound, and the previous comments apply to your minion in misinformation, sceneboobster, too.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Bush, by all accounts, has increased terrorism in the MidEast.


And, by all accounts, at least for the moment, decreased terrorism in the West. Where would you like your terrorists to practice? And, I have no idea if Iraq + - Afghan. is the correct equation or not. All I know is that there are people out there who hate the Western world (and rival sects in their own countries) so much they are willing to die to kill others. If nothing else, that awareness has put us lightyears ahead of where we were on 9/10/01. At least now, we might be somewhat ready for them the next time they hit.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says:

"And, by all accounts, at least for the moment, decreased terrorism in the West."

This is ludicrous. Apparently you don't include England, Spain, Germany, or Norway as "the West".


Had I meant only the US, I would have said "United States". The countries you list above are all part of the Western World smart guy.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

I reiterate, for the MOMENT, we have had no terror attacks in the US, very few in the Western World and many more thwarted. So, how can you say we are less safe? What is safe anyway? 30 seconds before 9/11 we all felt really safe, but weren't.

Bubbles 7 years, 10 months ago

Associate Law of Boolean Algebra applies to terrorists and Liberals.

(A + B) + C = A + (B + C)

(Terrorists + Hate Bush) + Liberals = Terrorists + (Hate Bush + Liberals)

Bubbles 7 years, 10 months ago

Explain how pulling out the troops and cutting spending for the troops is not helping the terrorists?

I suppose liberals are for less water on a house fire?

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says: Do you even read the news? The most recent reports indicate that we are LESS safe from terrorists than before we entered Iraq.


Reference this news story, I'd be curious to read it.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Finding_Uranus (Anonymous) says: Heck, Ms. Sheehan has taken more action than the whole of the Democratic majority-she should get some respect for that, right?


No, she should not. Not for camping out at Bush's ranch, nor for meeting with Chavez, nor for being a total PIB, or for making a mockery of fallen soldiers' families. She deserves nothing but scorn.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

FInding UR. I guess I had my sarcasm radar turned off.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says: kjr- I don't have the patience to hold your hand through these debates, so I'll give you one shot at trying to understand:


And you also don't have the information I requested. I'll repeat. Cite the source, I believe you said the recent news sources, that proves we are less safe now than before. You don't have patience, you don't have sources for your sweeping comments. You only have sarcasm, not really a very good debate strategy logic.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

Agnostick (Anonymous) says: Any halfway-intelligent person-regardless of political stripe or persuasion-can see that the Iraqi Invasion/Incursion/Liberation has been a mistake from Day #1


Why?

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

All these bloges' with all these sweeping and mindless comments like "we're less safe" or "the Iraq thing was a mistake". Please put an "in my opinion" after the sweep, 'cause guess what......you don't really know that for sure, do you?

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

......here comes the lllloooooonnnnnnggggg response.....

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

OK logicisdead, I found your source. The New York Times. You've got to be kidding. NYT is the #1 GWB hating publication in the nation. I said find me something that "proves" it, which certainly isn't the article you cited. They quote anonymous sources and write in more of an editorial context than real journalism.

Nope, sorry, doesn't fly....my refutal of your "less safe" comment comes in the fact that in the last 6 years, in the US, no one has been killed in an Al Qae. related terrorist attack.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

I'm not a Bush supporter at all. I just look at the facts and don't let my opinion get altered by personal feelings and kneejerkreactions. If the Dems ever do anything right, I'll give them credit too..... toohdaloo boys...

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

scorn & jeering? Now you're making me laugh. (derisively)

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 10 months ago

herbalife4life1 (Anonymous) says: Why can no one in this supposed "learned and sophisticated" town answer a simple physics question:.How can a building weakened at the top of its structure, affect said buildings lower structure an collapse within its footprint and only 1.4 seconds slower than something that is free-falling?


Where'd you get this c$ap, off Rosie O'Donnells website? This is total malarky, you ourtta be ashamed of yerself.

get a herballife dude...I'm gone...

coneflower 7 years, 9 months ago

Marion says: Fred Thompson announced!

So what. An entertainer. That the best the GOP can do? America is seriously effed up thanks to Bush, Cheney and their supporters, and we need much, much more than a TV star to help fix this broken country.

Bubbles 7 years, 9 months ago

Broken country?

What part did you play in that Cone?

Are you part of the problem or part of the solution?

Or are you just the product of whomever is leading you at the time?

chet_larock 7 years, 9 months ago

Waaaa, Clinton, Waaaa!

Looks like we're back to the childish blame game. As usual, deaf, dumb, and blind to the present state of affairs.

Note Inscient's 3:21, 3:22: definitely some pointless posts.

Hoots 7 years, 9 months ago

And this is going to be productive how? Lets waste more time on this in government. He's almost gone anyhow so get a life. I say we impeach all the republicans and demecrates and start over...now that might fix a thing or two. Your government is one big wasteful, corrupt mess regardless of which side you are on.

Scott Tichenor 7 years, 9 months ago

"We're kicking ass in Ira!"

  • George Bush

We've been told.

Scott Tichenor 7 years, 9 months ago

""We're kicking ass in Iraq, too, apparently"

Not just in Iraq!

ndmoderate 7 years, 9 months ago

...and devilarminiferd comes at all of us with his faaaavorite pastime: Clinton!

chet_larock 7 years, 9 months ago

R_T's second to last post just goes to show how unhinged those on the right can become when they have nothing else to say. I wonder if he's now going to be under close observation due to some of the "key phrases" he used in that post.

sfjayhawk 7 years, 9 months ago

I think it would have been easy to capture or kill OBL had 150K US troops been in afghanistan instead of in iraq. We would still have the support of the world community, could still have the moral high ground, and wouldn't be spreading more anti-american hate than ever before. Then again, with OBL still at large, the current fear mongering administration has plenty of 'orange alerts' and 'terrorist plots' scare us dumb with.

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