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Judge won’t lower bond for attack suspect

October 20, 2007

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Defense attorney Carl Cornwell

Defense attorney Carl Cornwell discusses Matt Jaeger's bond reduction hearing today. Enlarge video

Attack suspect's parents seek bond reduction

Parents of a KU student accused of brutally attacking his ex-girlfriend seek a significant reduction in their son's bond. Enlarge video

22-year-old KU student Matthew Jaeger walked out of the jail shortly after 10:30 a.m. Wednesday after posting an $850,000 bond. He is charged with attacking a woman and dragging her from her apartment.

22-year-old KU student Matthew Jaeger walked out of the jail shortly after 10:30 a.m. Wednesday after posting an $850,000 bond. He is charged with attacking a woman and dragging her from her apartment.

A Douglas County judge Friday rejected a motion to lower the $850,000 bond set for a Kansas University senior charged with attacking a woman and dragging her from her apartment.

Carl Cornwell, the defense attorney for Matthew P. Jaeger, 22, wanted the bond reduced to $50,000.

He said Jaeger's parents, who attended the hearing, would pay the entire bond amount to get their son out of jail.

If freed, Jaeger, who is trained in a Brazilian form of jiu-jitsu, would go to a facility in Minnesota, where he could get treatment for substance abuse and mental health issues, while waiting for his case to proceed, Cornwell said. Jaeger could be monitored with GPS equipment, he said.

"We do not think that $850,000 is a reasonable bond," Cornwell told Judge Robert Fairchild.

The bond was set by District Judge Stephen Six, who presided over Jaeger's first court appearance last week. Just as he did then, Assistant District Attorney Dave Melton argued that not only is Jaeger a flight risk but a danger to the community and especially to the victim.

The woman, who once had a relationship with Jaeger, remains in the hospital since the Oct. 9 incident, Melton said.

"The victim in this case was severely, horribly injured," Melton said. "It is anticipated when she is released she will have to have in-home medical care."

Jaeger is charged with aggravated kidnapping, aggravated battery, aggravated burglary and making criminal threats. He watched the hearing from the jail on closed-circuit television.

Melton showed Fairchild the weapons Jaeger allegedly had with him the night of the attack, including an ax and martial arts folding knife. The judge also saw photographs of the victim's injuries and the blood on the interior of the car.

Jaeger allegedly broke into the woman's second-floor apartment in the 1200 block of George Court, knocked her unconscious and dragged her by the hair to a waiting car being driven by another man, Melton said. A man who was with the victim that night was threatened and was "in fear for his life," Melton said.

Jaeger has competed in martial arts matches, Melton said.

Melton also noted reports that Jaeger's father, Jerry Jaeger, a Chicago businessman, had told media in that city that his son had found the victim after she had been attacked in her apartment in the 1200 block of George Court. Jerry Jaeger reportedly said his son was trying to take the woman to the hospital.

But the car Jaeger and the victim were in was stopped by police as it headed west on Sixth Street, away from Lawrence Memorial Hospital, 325 Maine, Melton said. Police were called after people in the apartment complex were alarmed by the woman's screams. The car was seen by an officer driving to the apartment complex.

"The nature of their destination remains unclear," Melton said.

Cornwell countered by saying the driver of the car told police he was confused about the streets.

No charges have been filed against the driver. The district attorney's office has said the case is still being reviewed. Melton told Fairchild that additional charges in the case were possible.

In setting the bond last week, Six ordered that Matthew Jaeger's passport be taken away after learning that Jaeger had made international trips. But Melton told Fairchild he was concerned that Jaeger, if freed, could leave the country aboard an executive jet to which the Jaeger family has access. Cornwell said after the hearing the family does not have a jet.

Although Jaeger has been in jail since his arrest the night of the incident, Melton told Fairchild of the victim's family's concern about a phone call to the hospital by someone posing as the victim's brother. The caller wanted directions to the hospital. The victim's brother, however, was at the hospital with his sister at the time of the call, Melton said.

In declining to lower the bond, Fairchild added two more conditions Jaeger would have to meet if he is able to come up with the bond money. Jaeger would have to be monitored by GPS and he could not have contact with the victim or witnesses.

Fairchild made his ruling before a nearly full courtroom. In addition to the presence of family members of the victim and suspect, several police detectives and uniformed officers were present, just as they were during the first court appearance.

Jaeger will return to court Tuesday for the scheduling of a preliminary hearing. An attorney from the Kansas Attorney General's Office will become the lead prosecutor in the case, Melton said. District Attorney Charles Branson, who for several years was a criminal defense attorney, once represented Jaeger in a driving-under-the-influence case. A spokeswoman in his office said Branson wanted to remove any signs of a conflict of interest.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Unfortunately you sometimes have to get on their low level for them to understand. Just fry him!

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workin2hard 6 years, 11 months ago

Sounds like they need to move her to another hospital where she can not be found. The driver knows he is in trouble and is trying to cover himself. Plus it sound like they need to raise bond not lower it.

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sharron5rs 6 years, 11 months ago

PLEASE, have someone else be the att. for the state. This already sounds like a mistrial. I know the state has more att.than this one. I would hate to see Jager back out on the streets.

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busymom 6 years, 11 months ago

I can't believe that they expected the bond to lower by 800,000. They must be dilusional (ok I can't spell). I wonder what the driver's charges will be, if he's not charged with anything that would be an injustice because as far as I'm concerned, the driver is just as guilty as Jaeger in this girl's attacks (assuming all the evidence is accurate). The only defense is they were taking her to the hospital?? Which one? Sure wasn't Lawrence Memorial.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

I'm suing for incidental damages.

This [string of suspect-specific expletives] has exacerbated my Tourette's symptoms to an unprecedented degree.

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CindiCat 6 years, 11 months ago

My Stars......so many things I want to say/write but can't or I would get kicked off here.

NO ONE can promise that he will stay put any where he is sent. Well, unless it is 6 feet under.

He has substance abuse and mental health issues....really? Ya think maybe? Wow, wouldn't have thought that.....(yes, that is my smart-a** talk)

IF this POS does get out....he will be gone in a flash. If that happens, send "Dog" to go get him!!

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bearded_gnome 6 years, 11 months ago

Cornwell countered by saying the driver of the car told police he was confused about the streets.

HOOEY! they were gonna kill her and dump the body in western douglas county somewhere along a quiet country road in a ditch. charge the damned driver! "confused about the roads?" just read the signs or ask somebody. isn't there more than one "hospital" sign on 6th???

looking forward to more charges being filed, against jaeger and driver. and, DA, no plea bargain crap.

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domino 6 years, 11 months ago

Mr. Cornwell, I believe what the prosecuting attorney said was the family had "access to" an executive jet. I don't give a rip if the family owns one or not - they have "access to" one and apparently the $$$ to use it!

After reading thru some of the older clippings/posts, I want to respond to one post from a few days ago. The post said that his father did what any parent would do and say/do whatever they could to help his son. Let me guarantee you, this is NOT what ANY parent would do!! When one of my kids was going through a "wild" stage - smoking a little pot - he ended up getting picked up by the police. Guarandamntee you I didn't bail his butt out!! Let him set in jail over the weekend and think about what he was doing and what kind of path his life was taking at that point. Ended up in jail about 10 days over his charges and you know what - he has never been back since. Pulled his head out of his a@@ and straightened his life around and is now going into the ministry. He was mad as hell that his dad & I let him set in jail at the time, but has since said that it was the best thing we could have done for him at that point. I'm not saying it was easy to do, but being a parent isn't about doing the easy thing - it's about doing what is right and best for your kids. It didn't make me love him any less but he had to know that we would not tollerate or condone his actions.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

"I'm not saying it was easy to do, but being a parent isn't about doing the easy thing - it's about doing what is right and best for your kids. It didn't make me love him any less but he had to know that we would not tollerate or condone his actions."

Well said... been livin' there lately, myself.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

"The victim in this case was severely, horribly injured," Melton said. "It is anticipated when she is released she will have to have in-home medical care."


Since the specific gory details of this have not leaked out into the public press, we can only speculate what he did to her physically. Mentally there is a whole 'nother attack, since she'll never be able to live her life without thinking what he did to her.

I hope the prosecutors are smart enough to nail this guy. And, it's been said before, but it seems to me that the driver should be charged here too. I mean, who's calling the hospital??!!

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etc123435 6 years, 11 months ago

Spywell- Obviously you aren't spying well on this case! What do you "THINK" about that Jeager maniac dragging this poor girl by her hair down probably at least 20 stairs? He wasn't there to protect her and get her to safety. If her were concerned about her well being he and that chickenSHi partner in crime would have done what any normal, caring human being would do and call 911. Just think about it. she is bleeding profusley and then they drag her down many stairs by her hair??? How in the hel would that help. A broken neck and back on top of everything else!!!

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etc123435 6 years, 11 months ago

I also think the parents of this useless bastad should take that bail money thay were going to spend on little charles manson jr. and give it to the poor girl he mutilated. She will need every penny now that she has gone through this horrific life changing event. Especially if she is going to need in home care. Matt Jaeger said he wanted to make it impossible for her to have another intimate relationship and he is most likely beaming with pride as it sounds like he may well have accomplished what he and his buddy set out to do. Well what goes around comes around and while serving his prison sentence he will more than likey encounter a few intimate relationships himself, only wilth Big Bubba! LOL! Hopefully Big Bubba will change his anatomy making it impossible for him to have another normal intimate relationship. People have to be careful how you treat others as it will always come back to bite you in the AS

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Fatty_McButterpants 6 years, 11 months ago

It's good to see the assumption crew is out in force today. I love how everyone thinks that they are an authority on the criminal law and the facts of this case. For example, this article quotes the assistant D.A. as saying that Jaeger "dragged her by the hair" into the car. The assumption crew has changed this into "he dragged her down at least 20 steps" and then carries on about her bleeding all over. Meanwhile, an article posted in the Chicago Tribune reported that the victim, in her own handwriting, wrote that after this horrific assault took place, she came to and made her way out into the parking lot and that Jaeger was out there with his morally deficient friend.

Keep up the good work, crew. Maybe you'll be able to blame this guy for the Lindbergh baby, and the victim for inviting this by "being promiscuous" by the end of the day.

Note: the remark about promiscuous behavior is an example and not based on information about the victim.

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ukillaJJ 6 years, 11 months ago

There is no way that this kid should get out on bond. He (and his friend) clearly have some serious issues, plus his parents are in complete denial and believe everything he has told him. A rich @$$ kid like this with a private jet and a ton of money is definitely going to skidaddle out of the country. Keep him locked up until the trial - money can't, and shouldn't, get you out of everything and it's time that this dude and his parents learn it the hard way.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Dear Fatty- remember what etc12345 said, the one you are referring to as the "assumption crew" . when this goes to court and all the details come out you will then know what they said may be pretty accurate. It may be no assumption at all. just facts. there seems to be several eye witnesses to this event. It will all eventually come out. My prayers and hope for a complete recovery for the victim.

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Warren6032 6 years, 11 months ago

I, for one, am eager to hear exactly how all of this is some big misunderstanding.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Fatty- It could be etc just used common sense. If the victim lived on the second floor and Jaeger dragged her by her hair to the car, wouldn't they have had to go down stairs? I have seen those apts before and as I recall there are several steps. Just a thought

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

A perfect example of the need to keep a loaded firearm at home.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

I agree kneejerk! The owner of Northwinds should give them away free to his tennants the next time each of them pays the rent! It would be hard to live there and have peace of mind after what happened. for me anyway, probably not for everyone tho.

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thusspokezarathustra 6 years, 11 months ago

"Meanwhile, an article posted in the Chicago Tribune reported that the victim, in her own handwriting, wrote that after this horrific assault took place, she came to and made her way out into the parking lot and that Jaeger was out there with his morally deficient friend."

Fatty- this is false. Here is the actual quote from the Chicago Tribune:

"The victim wrote that the next thing she remembered was regaining consciousness on the floor of her room, being in "extreme pain" and having difficulty standing. She wrote that she saw glass on the floor and thought that she had been cut in the vaginal area.

She then walked outside and saw Jaeger by his car, according to the account. The victim wrote that she realized she was bleeding and her pants were soaked in blood. Jaeger tried to force her into his car, but she refused, fearing for her life."

There is no mention of the victim "making her way to the parking lot" as you claim. It is entirely possible that the attempt to "force her into his car" included dragging her by her hair possibly even down the stairs. The facts about this are still emerging but you are part of the assumption crew now too.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

I still don't understand what's so bad about being a member of the assumption crew. Who cares?

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camper 6 years, 11 months ago

My God. The suspects were not going to the Hospital. I am not sure how long Jaeger or the driver have resided in Lawrence, but I would seriously doubt that they did not know. Furthermore, 99% would have called 911 immediately. I would like to see charges stepped up against both Jaeger (I am having difficulty even writing his name without a feeling of disgust) and the driver.

I deeply hope that the victim will recover. And we should be thankful that other concerned residents called the police and that the police responded in such a timely manner. My hat is off to them. They are really heroic and sometimes under-appreciated. If you drive or walk past an officer soon. Give them a nod of appreciation.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

For some reason, a lot of officers showed up at the initial hearing. I think that shows that they cared about this case and the victim......and, of course, seeing the pos (I prefer that moniker 'cause I have a hard time writing his name too) get his.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

"I still don't understand what's so bad about being a member of the assumption crew. Who cares?"

... because it makes an @$$ out of you and the MP tie-on crew.

(... or was that the empty ion crew... or....)

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

Someone is bleeding profusely. You want to help them, but you don't know exactly where the hospital is. Choose one from below:

A. You throw the bleeding person into the back seat and race off into the night, unsure of exactly where you are going;

B. You call 911, and in the meantime, try and locate the bleeding and get it under control.

Charge the driver with something Mr. DA, 'cause he's lying to you.. They were taking her outside of town to kill her and dump her body into a ditch. Get the cell phone records and look at the call pattern of these two. Get the hospital phone records and find out who made the call to the hospital (purportedly asking directions....sound familair?) pretending to be her brother. You'll find out it was the driver.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

Sgt. A$$umption reporting for duty, sir.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

"You'll find out it was the driver."

My money's on the butler.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

I'm calling the NAPCB (Natn'l A&&ociation for the Prevention of Cruelty to Butlers)

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

Yes, hawk., and why didn't he help her as she was being beaten senseless and then cut up??????

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Fatty_McButterpants 6 years, 11 months ago

thusspokezarathustra: Are you an idiot?? The quote that you presented to try and assert that what I PARAPHRASED was incorrect, said, in the second paragraph (first line) "She then [WALKED] outside and saw Jaeger by his car, according to the account."

Please, tell me, after looking at the quote YOU provided, and what I paraphrased, how "[t]here is no mention of the victim 'making her way to the parking lot'?"

You also wrote that "[i]t is entirely possible that the attempt to 'force her into his car' included dragging her by her hair possibly even down the stairs."

How does one walk down the stairs, while being dragged by the hair, and find that person by his car?? I assume that even you can reason that this is not possible.

Finally, I was not making any assumptions. I don't know what happened. I was simply pointing out that the "facts" people are relying on are, at best, contradictory. As such, people should keep that in mind before opening their virtual mouths.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 11 months ago

contradictory facts and a lot of information that doesn't square up

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Sigmund 6 years, 11 months ago

"District Attorney Charles Branson, who for several years was a criminal defense attorney, once represented Jaeger in a driving-under-the-influence case. A spokeswoman in his office said Branson wanted to remove any signs of a conflict of interest."

Wow, Branson is being extra special careful with this case. This abundance of caution on his part is sends a signal, he wants to put this giant piece of biological waste into trash bin for as a long time as possible, while leaving only a very short list of possible issues for appeal. It also isolates the DA's office from any further criticism on how the prosecution proceeds. Anyway the whole thing make me a little nostalgic for public hangings.

BTW, anyone know the identity of the driver?

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

Really, guys, just wait for the Mel Gibson production. Sure to set the record straight and guaranteed not to disappoint!

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thusspokezarathustra 6 years, 11 months ago

thusspokezarathustra: Are you an idiot??

Quite simply Fatty "outside" is not a parking lot. The victim lived on the second floor so unless there is a 2 level parking facility then walking outside does not mean she walked to the parking lot. It's likely she walked "outside" to a landing above the parking lot

Why don't YOU re-read the quote "She then walked OUTSIDE and saw Jaeger by his car,". Where does it say she walked to the parking lot? Your paraphrasing of the article was specious at best & does a disservice to your point while demonstrating a lack of reading comprehension.

"How does one walk down the stairs, while being dragged by the hair, and find that person by his car?? I assume that even you can reason that this is not possible."

Quite simply Fatty the article you paraphrased & I quoted makes NO mention of walking down any stairs or how the victim made it to the parking lot, only that she was forced into a car by the accused after walking outside.

Your point about accuracy on this website is undone by the poor accuracy with which you paraphrase the sources you cite, very much like an idiot.

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Sigmund 6 years, 11 months ago

For me there are only two relevant facts. He is a 22 year old male trained in martial arts and she was beaten so badly she required two surgeries. Assuming she did not threaten him with a gun, there are no possible defense (ie. twinkies, molested as a child. she laughed at the size of his sword) that can excuse his behavior.

The driver needs to be identified in the press. He is either so gutless he didn't attempt to help her, or he is an accomplice and a danger to the community. Either way, we have a right to know who he is.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

"For me there are only two relevant facts. He is a 22 year old male trained in martial arts and she was beaten so badly she required two surgeries."

... one more...

"It is anticipated when she is released she will have to have in-home medical care."

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lovenhaight 6 years, 11 months ago

Every single women's organization in the area needs to be out at this guy's hearing. We are all abuzz about it on LJWorld, but why isn't it plastered all over campus? Why isn't there a MASSIVE uproar in Lawrence?

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

I think that, in respect of the victim in this grievous matter, it would be wholly appropriate for LJW to relax its Use Policy Agreement for a seven-minute "moment" of non-silence, in proper observance of this deplorable event.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

He is guilty--- Thats all there is to it. The details really don't matter to much at this point. He was caught holding the bag. Kind of strange that he had an ax with him too. makes one wonder

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

... and (someone already said it)... dang, we banned rope last week!

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Not much is being said about the wintesses. Whoever called 911 you all are such brave people and heroes for sure! You saved this girls life and possibly many others. who know what this maniac might have done to others if he got away with this. I hope the city awards you for it. Job well done!!!!!!! and bless you all!!!

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

Can we arrange for the cell with the pointy walls which close in...?

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Sigmund 6 years, 11 months ago

On Thursday October 4th several dozen women marched down Mass Street blowing whistles and clothesline art was displayed. Very nice and I am sure it made them feel like they were doing something to stop violence. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/oct...

Five days later, a 22 year old women was beaten so badly by her ex-boyfriend, Matthew P. Jaeger, that she couldn't stand, had injuries to her vaginal area. required two surgeries and 24 hours after being admitted to hospital doctors didn't know the full extent of her injuries. So horrific was the attack that every Detective of the Lawrence Police Department attended the bail hearing, an unusual occurrence to say the least.

Where exactly are these womens groups now? Why aren't they attending every hearing and demanding Jaeger's accomplice and driver be named?

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mom_of_three 6 years, 11 months ago

The driver of the car says he was confused by the streets (in going the wrong way to the hospital) Gee, in that area of town, aren't there tons of signs pointing the way to the hospital?

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Ceallach 6 years, 11 months ago

Maybe they are trying to give the driver a plea bargain if he will testifies against the maniac.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

"With a row of rusty ones just below waist level?"

No, spinning blades, there....

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 11 months ago

Rusty, spinning, electrified... um... er... gleaming, spinning, electrified blades....

... ok... you've shown me the error of my ways.

There is nothing to be gained through vengeance. It only reduces the avenger to the level of the perpetrator. Let us afford due process, and, in the event of the expected outcome, let us remove him from the company of others who might also suffer at his hands.

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SteveAisenstein 6 years, 11 months ago

I am going to share my opinion of what's going on. I think the underlying conduct and injuries are as bad as they come if officers are using terms like horrific and showing up in numbers to court hearings. I think Cornwell's tone in the recent interview is very telling. Anyone notice how he is not coming out staunchly defending his adopted client and proclaiming his innocence? It's a different tone, he's talking about substance abuse and psychological problems, and and he's probably told the father to keep quiet (hence, why the father has stopped appearing in the papers). Cornwell has probably realized at this point that the hard evidence and testimony of the girl, new boyfriend, and driver are enough to put his client away for life, so he better try for a plea and be cooperative. I mean, there is no way he wants this in front of a jury. It's pretty much over before it starts when you have allegations (and it sounds like hard evidence as well) of rape and someone carving on a women's private parts. I also thing that premeditation is very hard to negate when you have someone hiding in the bushes and intentional using ju-jitsu moves. I wonder if any of the battery charges are for what was done to new boyfriend. Finally, where are the attempted murder charges?

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SteveAisenstein 6 years, 11 months ago

Also, let's be real here: $850.000.00 is not that much money for someone like this father who, according to media reports, is a known real estate development with possible access to a private plane. He obviously could come up with the dough if he wanted to. Does he simply think his .....son is not worth that much? It would he appear he wants him left in jail. I don't think they honestly thought they'd get bond down to 50k.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

She saw broken glass because he broke out the window in the front of her apt, went in through the broken window, went into her bedroom, knocked her out and mutilated her private parts with something sharp. Then did whatever else he did to her to be considered rape and dragged her bleeding body down the front staires of her apt, by her hair and into his car.

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bearded_gnome 6 years, 11 months ago

the driver's comment is completely empty of validity. there are lots of hospital signs, and the directions on the phone would have been simple enough. he had a severely beaten girl in the back of his car along w/the perp, and he was headed outa town! don't take perry mason to figger they're gonna dispose of a dead body. dump her in clinton lake, or by the side of a quiet country road in a ditch.

agree, the callers did save her life BRAVVO! t thanks for calling and getting involved.

I'd hate to see a plea bargain for the pondscum driver, there oughta be plenty of evidence/testimony against jaeger without the driver's word.
the driver is also a danger to society, obviously.

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SteveAisenstein 6 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, thanks again to the caller(s) for saving a life - take a bow. Is Cromwell representing the driver too? Bearded gnome makes good points, they'll probably take driver's story (which will likely be the full story b/c he wants leniency) and then maybe throw the book at him too. Who knows if he was involved before the fact, and as a previous writer pointed out, cell phone records will tell all.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Dots- I am thinking what you are thinking. I think these irresponsible parents will come up with the rest of the money. Not that much more for this rich business man to come up with. Maybe the attorney advised them not to. Can you imagine the uproar if he gets out? Even if they put him in a mental health fascility. Should have been put in there years ago if he is mental. I think he is just plain mean and will do whatever it takes to get his way. Even if it means taking anothers life.

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SteveAisenstein 6 years, 11 months ago

You're right, it's possible Jim Cramer simply doesn't want the uproar and attention that would likely be associated with release of someone accused of this sort of thing. But yeah, while they could have posted already (Cramer ain't cheap either), I think they will listen to Cramer.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

I hope as part of his punishment he has to have Daddy give him several million to donate to battered womens shelters and give a huge, large amount to the girl he tried to kill. Especially if she has to have in- home medical care. Also I think the callers who saved this girl, got the soon to be killers caught, should get a huge monitary reward and it should have to come right out of Daddy's bank account! If they would have gotten away with this I bet they would have continued to kill God only knows how many. So the brave callers may have in the long run, saved many lives.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Steve-Can you just imagine if he bails out? It would turn Lawrence and greater KC upside down. Now they are going to plea temporary insanity I bet.

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SteveAisenstein 6 years, 11 months ago

I bet you are right that they give the insanity defense a shot. Isn't it tough to use successfully? I don't think this is a situation where someone walks in on their current lover screwing another guy. Their original story according to the father is that defendant came to her rescue, apparently through a window.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

Dots- well said! I totally agree. I hope his Father keeps talking. People are their own worst enemies when facing court. If daddy keeps wagging hids tongue, maybe Jaeger Jr. will get life in prision.

Steve- I think it is hard to prove temp insanity but given the nature of the case and the attorney is already saying that if he bails out they are wanting to get help for him with his mental and drug problems in Minnesota, makes me think that is the route they are going to try and take. This girl had been broken up with him since May. He felt jaded and probably found out that she had gone on with her life and due to his "mental" problems, acts on emotions and wanted to kill her. I heard he made a statement that he wanted to make it impossible for her to have another intimate relationship. sounds pretty insane to me. so that is were I think Cornwell will take it. I did a little research, and interestingly enough I found that Jaegers attorney is known for representing battered women who have killed their husbands due to physical and mental abuse. I just couldn't believe he would even consider taking this case.

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camper 6 years, 11 months ago

I hope charges are brought up against the driver. It is fairly obvious that he was an accomplice. It may not even even be necessary to offer him a plea because there was another person present at the time of the attack. His testimony may be Key.

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SteveAisenstein 6 years, 11 months ago

"I heard he made a statement that he wanted to make it impossible for her to have another intimate relationship. sounds pretty insane to me." When did he make such a statement, if at all? If he said it in advance and was stalking, it might tend to go against insanity. I would think the more premeditated a crime is, the less an insanity defense will work, but what do I know. Theoretically it could be said that anyone who intentionally kills is insane (or kills for insane reasons).

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

it is my feeling that it was pre-meditated because, how many people carry an ax around with them?

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

If this wasn't planned and he, the driver, was just an innocent bystander so to speak, saw everything that was happening, as the driver of the car is responsible as to what is happening in the car. At that point he should have called 911 and waited for help to get there. If he saw his Jaeger friend hurting his exgirlfriend, as he had to have heard her yelling as the others that lived there did, he had a huge responsibility to get the proper help for her. He should have used the ax on that violent Jaeger maniac and waited for an ambulance for the ex-girlfriend. It makes no sense as to why he is not in jail. They must have a good reason, but it sure is unsetlling to know that someone like him is out on the streets. Hopefully the authorities are watching his every move.

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results12 6 years, 11 months ago

I think your right and I sure hope so.

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InstantCashOptionPlease 6 years, 11 months ago

Jaeger is mental. There is no getting around that, if he wanted to he could have killed her in the apartment. He is insane, suicidal, and delusional. I believe they will try and convince the judge that he was insane at the time of his actions. I think as deranged as this lunatic is, he needs to undergo psychiatric evaluation before he is sentenced to maximum-security prison. A person like this is no doubt a danger to society, but I question the ability of the federal prison system to adequately address his mental problems. Will he understand that he has deranged and violent thoughts, but to act on those poses an obvious problem to those around him? No wonder a kid like this got involved in martial arts. It's because he is a violent psychopath! Jail will not make him a changed man. This kid has mental issues that are going to go ignored in jail, and when he gets out of jail (however long it will be) all he will know is violence. A person like this needs to get sent to the psych ward pronto... like for the rest of his life.

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bolshavik_vw 6 years, 10 months ago

thank gosh the judge did not lower the bond amount. I think the judge should of raised it to an unreachable amount. Is the victim going to get some form of compensation????

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