overplayedhistory (Anonymous) says…

Something is missing from this story. It doesn't appear that the man was a threat to anyone but himself. Why the stand off? Either the ljw has done a poor job with all the facts or the Sheriff Dept. is not telling the whole story. Maybe he just wanted to be left alone and freaked out when the sheriff knocked on his door. What answers did the officers need? I hope more Info comes forth. Right now, it doesn't sound like this was a job for the Sheriff's Dept. Sounds like the Sheriff's Dept. created a job for the fire Dept.

another_concerned_parent (Anonymous) says…

The full story is never released in the paper. It is none of our business what the full story is. So stop blaming he LEOs involved.

nobody1793 (Anonymous) says…

Just because it's nobody's business has never stopped the LJW before!

Ragingbear (Anonymous) says…

Ever notice that standoffs tend to result in fires, and that the fire is never started with something like a tear gas cannister, but a candle that didn't exist?

NotASquishHead (Anonymous) says…

Overplayedhistory - Do you really think the deputies would just walk away from a man who was “a threat to himself” (a/k/a suicidal)? Can you imagine the uproar if they would have left and then the gentleman took his own life?

It sounds to me like everyone involved did a tremendous job, as the gentleman and all of the officers apparently went uninjured. It's a shame the buildings burnt, but they are replaceable, the gentleman isn't. A friend of mine heard the initial call on his scanner and the call mentioned that the gentleman had doused the buildings with diesel and gasoline… If this is true then it wouldn't have taken much for him to set the buildings off.

No matter what it sounds like it was a quality job and everyone goes home safe.

softtalker (Anonymous) says…

Everyone needs to just stay out of it. I have known this family for almost 5 years now and they deserve to be just left alone, people need to stop making assumptions. He was sent to the hospital and now he is in custody. No hostages, and no one was hurt so thats all anyone should be worried about.

truthvfiction1212 (Anonymous) says…

I can answer ragingbears question…It was a UFO that started the fire and the gov't is covering it up.

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

good job all the agencies involved. this guy and his son et al will live another day. nice work.

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doc1 (Anonymous) says…

WHen the call came out the deputy dispatchers said that the guy poured gasoline all over his house and theatened his wife there would be a shootout if she called the cops. Thats from someone who has a scanner I didn't hear that personally.

hawkperchedatriverfront (Anonymous) says…

high taxes

overplayedhistory (Anonymous) says…

So the wife called the cops? The only question I am asking is if no one would have called the cops what would have happened?
We all know if someone has really decided to commit suicide they will succeed. Only a burnt down property success story move on sure Ok.
I think by in large both the sheriff,HP and the Lpd are good and reasonable. The sheriff was real polite before he ask to search my car.
Even the most reasonable honest peace officers, are not going to respond well to the crazy old man whose drunk and in a dark place when called in. I can hear it now “someone called in worried about you sir, is everything all right” response “F you P*g get off my porch I want to be left alone” (standoff). I know people that in certain situations would respond that way and that is exactly the reason I didn't call the cops.

artichokeheart (Anonymous) says…

I agree it is not for anyone here to ask questions or judge. This article was little more than an attempt to show someone in the city/county government is doing something positive. However, I notice it does not keep most from ripping the mayor to pieces though.

Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

overplayedhistory, you're an idiot. On so many counts. You will never know how many people are walking around, healthy and happy, today because someone intervened when “they were in a dark place” and thwarted their suicide plans/attempts. You will never know how many because (duhhhh) they probably don't publicize what they almost did years ago when they were (pick one or more) young, drunk, depressed over a job loss or a bad relationship, depressed for reasons they couldn't even pinpoint, etc… Every time I have learned of this about someone (usually after getting to know them quite well), I've been a little blown away. They are often people you would NEVER expect had ever been that desperate.

Not all who contemplate suicide have a driving, persistent urge to do so. With many, it's an impulsive, often alcohol-fueled gesture and they will never repeat it once they get beyond that low point in their lives.

Obviously, you have not a clue on this subject, so my best advice to you would be to shut the EFF up and just accept that you're wrong. If someone is a threat—only to himself—society (in the form of emergency personnel, most often) is obliged to intervene if humanly possible. They absolutely did the right thing.

Among the many other points that could be made to counter your idiotic suggestion that they should've just left him alone– you don't just walk away from a potential inferno. As dry as it's been, fire is unpredictable. It can spread to other properties, other structures. To ignore the possibility that the guy might go ahead and torch the place (or that it might ignite from unintentional causes,since he had reportedly already doused it in fuel!!) would be absurd, irresponsible, stupid, (let's see—are you getting the general idea here?)…

And for those who tiresomely rag on the LJW whenever they report the news—just what do you think a news organization is supposed to do? This is news. Deal.

overplayedhistory (Anonymous) says…

Lets hear a transcript of exactly what was said at the front door. I only asked a question what if. I never suggested that they leave him alone, they had to respond. Forgive me for being suspicious of how cops handle such situations, especially young ones. I am sure you have never been hassled by cops. How many times did this story not unfold. If someone tells me, if I call the cops there will be a shoot out. I might not call the authorities right away. I have a friend who called me when he was driving around with his kid, telling me he was going to commit suicide. I should of done the right thing and called the cops and gave them his info. I did not do that and guess what, ten years later he and his kid are still here. Before someone else jumps me telling me how well everything was handled, let me say again I am only curious for more details. How does this happen? Maybe the guy really wanted to get on the news, I don't know. I only gave a gut reaction to the story. Questions j*rk @ff, I am asking questions. Did the cop smell fuel? etc. I didn't read the fire was accelerated by fuel did you. Do most stand offs start with a call of concern for an individual? I started off by saying something was missing. Obviously it satisfied you, I had questions. Maybe I should give you my name an address, so you can call the cops and have them shut me the eff up.

b3 (Anonymous) says…

Another crazy off the street, good work LPD.

igby (Anonymous) says…

These types of situations are hard to call. Anyone can call in and report on someone who they feel is a threat to their own person. Does this make law enforcement responsible, no. Credibility from the source of the complaint is a factor. Law enforcement can come and ask is everything OK and check their response. The response is what determines wheather or not the person is a threat to their person. However, if the persons is using drugs and making drugs they may not appreciate nosy law enforcement coming around and well it can go bad in a hurry. Probable cause may not be established. Remember, Law enforcement people enforce the law, but also protect and serve. People with mental illness sometimes can't protect themselves.