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Coulter speaks

March 7, 2007

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To the editor:

As a lifelong Democrat and liberal I say, let Ann Coulter speak; she shows and tells the whole world what the conservative agenda is. They are selfish, greedy, uncultured and lusting for all the wealth and power for themselves.

As for the rest of us, I'm sure she might say, like Marie Antoinette did when she was told that the people had no bread, "Then let them eat cake."

Please, please let Ann Coulter speak and show the world what "conservatism" is really all about.

E.G. Hickam,

Lawrence

Comments

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

Wow, Satchel, what an amazing find! When you compare MANY people (the "left") to ONE person (Ann Coulter), you get more incidents to compare from! You're a genious!!! It's a good thing we have you here, or we wouldn't be able to distinguish one from many, and the effects that such groupings could have.

Thank you for your. . . . blinding. . . . insight.

BigAl 7 years, 9 months ago

People like Ann Coulter and Michael Moore should be ignored and NOT be given all the air time that they get. Actually, Ann Coulter gets quite a bit of air time from FOX. You really don't see much of Michael Moore on the so-called liberal media. But, FOX props up Ann Coulter like a rock star.
Ann Coulter is a man-hating, far- far right, foul mouthed witch. There is nothing funny about the woman.

paladin 7 years, 9 months ago

Its very ironic for Ann Coulter to be cracking wise about another person's gender identity. Andy? Look at the hands, the Adam's Apple, other physical features. The voice? For those of you who truly admire Ms? Coulter and want to be more like her, emulate her, here are some useful links.

http://www.heartcorps.com/journeys/ http://www.susans.org/ http://www.tgforum.com/

classclown 7 years, 9 months ago

I suppose that Bill Maher saying that it was too bad Cheney wasn't killed is okay though. You can openly advocate for someone's murder, but don't you dare call someone a fag.

lefthanded 7 years, 9 months ago

Its fallacy to presume Anne Coulter represents the views of all conservatives. Michael Moore referred to President Bush as Hitler, yet one does not presume this comment is representative of all liberals. Anne Coulter, Michael Moore, Al Franken and the rest are a lot less about politics than they are about selling their latest book or movie. These inflammatory comments are about self promotion and one's name in the spotlight a little longer. When people ignore them, they'll go away.

Anne Coulter is usually funny but her comment regarding John Edwards was disappointing. Wasn't it John Edwards' campaign that had the intolerant or hateful campaign workers bashing Christianity?

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

OMGWTF!!?!?! People on TV or selling books say outrageous things to garner ratings?!?!?!

C'mon, it's not like any of them actually think half the stuff they say.

satchel 7 years, 9 months ago

At least she didn't pull a Murtha and call him Hitler.

She was referring to someone else, by the way, who called someone that name and ended up in rehab. It was a joke. (Bill Maher was NOT joking when he wished Cheney were hit by the assasin).

Ann thinks that is ridiculous that one would end up in rehab for calling someone a name. Let's face it, everyone is so sensitive and gets their feelings hurt so easily these days.

What is amazing to me is how some of these libs are some of the most vitriolic, name calling, foul mouthed, death wishing people I have ever seen and they always get away with it. Just go over to The Daily Kos and read what the Kos kids say about conservatives. Hop on over to the Huffington Post and read what her liberal friends say.

I will leave you with this comparison:

The left:

burn American flags

compare the president to Hitler

defend misogynist, homophobic, antisemite regimes

leak national secrets to their media outlets

campaign against surveillance of terrorists

join the Nazis and Islamofascists in their campaign against the Jews - sorry - "zionists"

join the fruitcakes in their quest to blame Bush for 9/11

call for the murder of political opponents

campaign for constitutional rights for captured taliban

pray for defeat in iraq

Ann Coulter: called Edwards a f#@*

temperance 7 years, 9 months ago

"Then Edwards compounded the felony " -- what was the "felony" again? Unnecessary use of hyperbole?

satchel -- The "joke" wasn't about rehab. People weren't laughing at the rehab comment. The joke was: "John Edwards acts like a wimpy woman." It's the analogue to "Hillary is a lesbian." Taunts about sexuality are all that the conservative movement has left.

Yes, the terrible remarks from anonymous commenters in the comment section of the Huffpost are EXACTLY like The Star of Conservativism using an anti gay slur at the biggest conservative event in the country. I can hear Mitt Romney now: "Next you'll hear from some anonymous commenters from the HuffPost! That's a good thing!"

There's no equivalent to Coulter. She IS modern conservativism. And she's embarrassing because modern conservativism is embarrassing -- she says things at the HEART of the movement that no one else dare say.

By the way, Bill Maher didn't say he wished Cheney were dead. You can keep saying he did, but it doesn't make it so. If he said it, you'd use the exact quote instead of innuendo.

temperance 7 years, 9 months ago

You're right -- that totally obscure ex-Edwards campaign blogger (whose name you can't even remember -- Amanda Marcotte) used profanity in some of her blogs. That's TOTALLY like the rock star of modern conservativism using a gay slur at the preeminent conservative event in the country. Completely equivalent.

Coulter IS the face of the conservatives. I don't see Democratic presidential hopefuls yucking it up with Michael Moore (your other example).

Coulter is the id of conservatism. You keep her around because she says things that you're afraid to say. This is why hher "joke" got so much applause.

pelliott 7 years, 9 months ago

Ann is a "manipulative lying leach trolling on other people reputation to gain her headlines, "manipulative lying leach trolling on other people reputation to gain her headlines" means a "waitress who can't get an order straight" in Fredonia

BigAl 7 years, 9 months ago

Dick Morris was fired by the Clintons and has been an opponent of Hillary for years. His "documentary" should be taken for what it is. Again, he is also propped up by FOX. This man is on O'Reilly and Hannity a lot but they never mention that he was fired by the Clintons. Hannity likes to say that he is a former WhiteHouse employee for Pres Clinton. Just a little misleading.

My point about Michael Moore is that he doesn't appear on hardly ANY television. NBC, CBS, ABC... none of them prop him up like FOX does Ann Coulter. This is a prime example of FOX being biased.

By the way, I am not stading up for Hillary at all. I could care less what network she appears on.

temperance 7 years, 9 months ago

Big Al said "You really don't see much of Michael Moore on the so-called liberal media. But, FOX props up Ann Coulter like a rock star."

Exactly.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

Big-Al: For the sake of total accuracy, I would say that calling Ann a man-hater is inaccurate. To take her at her word, she pretty much hates everybody. I'm sure she likes, or at least says she does, some mythical pure-conservative person, but since those people don't actually exist, I'll just say everyone.

Not that I see her as having any integrity in her words, anyway.

Porter 7 years, 9 months ago

Besides all the ridiculous hyperbole and talk-radio blowhard transcript fodder, satchel includes "leaks national secrets to the media" as a leftist activity.

I'm sure you're aware, satchel, but I'll remind you. Scooter Libby and Dick Armitage work for the Bush administration. They're not liberals just because they lied.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 9 months ago

As a moral conservative, I have to admit that I agree with a lot of the liberal on this topic. I think homosexuality is unnatural and sinful, but I don't think that gives anyone license to use slurs. Gays are people, too, and the Bible says "show respect to all men".

"People like Ann Coulter and Michael Moore should be ignored and NOT be given all the air time that they get."

Smartest post of the day. NOT good representatives of anyone but themselves, which is exactly who they care the most about. "Look at me, look at me."

BigDog 7 years, 9 months ago

That would be yes. Then Edwards compounded the felony by refusing to fire the two immediately. Instead, it took a couple more weeks to pressure them into resigning so Edwards wouldn't have to publicly admit to having made a huge mistake. But guys like EG just skip right past stuff like that."

Wow, once again Pilgrim shows how much he hates America and free speech. Thanks for showing us just how big an anti-American fool you really are.


Wasn't Ann Coulter also exercising her freedom of speech rights?

It goes both ways. I don't agree with anything the Phelps family says but I'll defend their right to say it. That is what freedom of speech is about ..... its not about being politically correct all of the time and only saying things that people agree with.

sourpuss 7 years, 9 months ago

Shame on any of you for actually giving one second of your attention to that woman, anything that comes out of her mouth, or anything that the press is saying about her.

Ann who?

Problem solved.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

E.G. Hickman, your way of thinking is part of the problem in this country. You label an entire group as all being one way. Your comment that all conservatives are "selfish, greedy, UNCULTURED(huh??)" just because Ann Coulter used the word 'fag' is nothing short of pitiful.

You may be a card carrying liberal, but may I suggest that your sweeping characterization belays a bitter and frustrated simp. Oh yeah, and uncultured too.....geezzzz

Grundoon Luna 7 years, 9 months ago

If you had been at Ann's lecture at KU, or spoken to people who had been, you'd know that Ann's supporters were doing some of the loudest shouting there. Calling people "fags," and "pole smokers," etc. Gee, sounds like Ted Haggard isn't the only conservative with closet issues.

When "she" was calling for the biggest college republicans to take on the hecklers she should have been arrested for iciting a riot!

Grundoon Luna 7 years, 9 months ago

Obamillary, you are so junior high. Grow up.

mick 7 years, 9 months ago

Once again we have been polarized and it's politics as usual. In the meantime most of the world sees us as a rogue nation, we are headed for bankruptcy and we have been infested with illegal immigrants. No one is addressing the issues. I don't have any hope for a country who doesn't care what the world thinks, doesn't care about its future for its children and won't even protect its own sovereignty.

Kodiac 7 years, 9 months ago

What some matter Lefty, can't sleep...try counting atheists being struck down by God. That should put most rightwingers such as yourself into a nice peaceful deep slumber...

Curious how Coulter is funny and makes disappointing comments but Edward's campaign workers are hateful and intolerant and "bash" chritianity.

Still praying for me?

Kodiac 7 years, 9 months ago

whoops "What is the matter" ...

need more coffee....

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

All you Michael Moore admirers are delusional if you believe his carefully worded propangda. Somebody made the comment that MM uses facts in his doumentaries. Ridiculous. MM starts with facts and then twists them. Look at his Farht 911 piece of trash....He's arm in arm with GWB on the cover. That was made up, just like the rest of his junk that you liberal pansies love to support.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

And the pitiful thing is that our liberal left wing goombahs hate GWB more than bin Laden.

Calliope877 7 years, 9 months ago

right_thinker,

Everytime you make a post... an angel dies.:(

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

couranna1, I'm sure you could recite from the gospel of Michael Moore. Ann C. is not my favorite either, but at least she's not disgusting to look at. I never cease to be amazed at how you liberals flock together and ALL think the same way. And I can say the same for conservatives. I prefer to think for myself.

temperance 7 years, 9 months ago

Schoolyard name-calling is all conservatives have left. Witness the genius of Dambuzo: "Poor liberals get called a name and they just fall to pieces. Big bad girl gots sissy boy all upset. What a man. Maybe we better call off the Bully before she hurts sissy boy's fweelins." That pretty much sums up their "argument."

Or RT: "Ann Coulter can eat any far-left, Bush-hating, secular-progressives' lunch in about one second ...... you all know it's true." What does that mean? She has better ideas? She's a better name-caller? Not afraid to call people "ragheads" or make fun of 9/11 widows? What's the "lunch," exactly.

Pseudo-macho posturing is all the conservatives have to hang their hat on.

temperance 7 years, 9 months ago

Kneejerkreaction wrote: "and the pitiful thing is that our liberal left wing goombahs hate GWB more than bin Laden."

Your sentence would be more persuasive if:

1) Bringing up bin Laden's name wasn't a glaring reminder that the Bush Administration not only were in charge of protecting the country during the largest terrorist attack on US soil, but they've failed to bring to justice the criminal(s) who did it.

2) If you had any evidence (polling data, interviews, statistics, ANYTHING) that supported your statement.

boldaq 7 years, 9 months ago

Ann Coulter is a very courageous woman. Ann Coulter is Rosa Parks on the bus. She challenges the vicious efficacy of convoluted "thought" crimes by sacrificing herself on the alter of leftwing supremacy.

Leftists used the word "racism" to bully and batter anyone who disagreed with their opinion on race. Now, they have the handy little word "homophobic" to silence anyone who doesn't believe homosexuality should be promoted and glorified. Then, they add, "And if you're 'homophobic', that means you're, um, uh, a repressed homosexual! Yeah, that's the ticket!"

Ann coulter faces the LWW down and spits in their eyes. That's why they hate her. She's deadly serious.

temperance 7 years, 9 months ago

Biggest laugh of the day (of the week?): the comparison between Rosa Parks & Coulter.

boldaq, are you for real? or are you a leftist in disguise trying to say the most ridiculous thing possible in order to discredit conservatives with your proposerous comparison?

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

couranna1 or pollyanna whatever.....I'm sobbing now. You are one dyed in the wool goofball.

ECM 7 years, 9 months ago

"Michael Moore uses facts in his documentaries Dispute anything in Farenheit 9/11. "

Oh my .... can't stop laughing. Moore wouldn't know "facts" if they hit him in the head (no I am not advocating that)

Clue fairly where are you!

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

couranna1 you should really clean your heart off your sleeve. No one said anything about your family. I just said YOU are pretty goofy. And, if everyone hates Americans and America, why do they all come here, like you?

boldaq 7 years, 9 months ago

"the comparison between Rosa Parks & Coulter."

In fact, Ann Coulter experiences more hateful, vicious personal attacks, both verbal and physical, from wild-eyed bigots in one day than Rosa Parks did in her entire lifetime.

deec 7 years, 9 months ago

Why is Couranna a "goofball"? Is it because she objects to the ongoing occupation of her native land by another nation? Is it because she objects to Britain holding on to the last vestiges of their once-huge empire? Is it because she recognizes shrub's dreams of building a similar empire in the Middle East?

MyName 7 years, 9 months ago

And the pitiful thing is that our liberal left wing goombahs hate GWB more than bin Laden.

I don't know about that, but most of them think that President Bush has done more to hurt America than 2 or 3 Bin Ladins, and there's some merit to their argument.

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

People have always been jealous of the US and their jealousy comes out as hatred. But as soon as they can, they show up here because one doesn't get their land seized, thrown out of their home and the dog nailed to the barn door or whatever happened.

Make your point by logic, not personal difficulty which is usually blown out of proportion or just plain contrived.

goophbawl...that's gaelic for goofball

mick 7 years, 9 months ago

They were so busy playing Politics that no one noticed that their city was on fire. They let it burn out of control and all of their wealth went up in smoke. There was anarchy for a time until the survivors were able to establish a new Jeffersonian Democracy. Jul 18, 2032

MyName 7 years, 9 months ago

Is a far-left, secular-progressive loon who bashes Christians on a Democrats blog a bigot--or is that just good ol' free speech?

Sure R_T just keep putting up those strawmen to try to cover your rockstar conservative's behind! Just because A is an ass doesn't change the fact that B is still a witch with a B!

kneejerkreaction 7 years, 9 months ago

There goes that heart back up on the sleeve couranna1...no one said anything anti-Irish. But a vicious twit is a pretty poor representative of any country.

deec 7 years, 9 months ago

"The Irish would still be in the bronze age if not for the British. Seriously, what have the Irish done except complain, whine and demand another handout. Theirs is an "entitlement" nation, give me, give me, give me. For God's sake Ireland, get to work and grow up! Time for Ireland to quit prancing with the leprachauns and start working like the rest of the western world....minus France."

Sounds like anti-Irish sentiment to me. No Irish need apply sounds alive and well for some posters here.

laughingatallofu 7 years, 9 months ago

<<< Posted by 75x55 (anonymous) on March 7, 2007 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Defender, it was sort of a reductio ad absurdum; sorry you didn't appreciate it. Doesn't surprise me, however.

Hey, ignoramus,

Dun't ya know that yur supozed to speek English (the Offishal language of Kansas and the YoooNited States of Amerrrika)?

What's this "reductio ad absurdum" BS???

drewdun 7 years, 9 months ago

"The Irish are about as courageous as the French. Neutral cowards."

You posting from the front line, there, macho man?

Reading these threads on the LJW tells me all I need to know about right-wingers. Definite exhibition of pure psychosis. Such as this little gem....

"In fact, Ann Coulter experiences more hateful, vicious personal attacks, both verbal and physical, from wild-eyed bigots in one day than Rosa Parks did in her entire lifetime."

Stamp it and seal the file.

W I N G N U T

paladin 7 years, 9 months ago

Ann Coulter is an Irish transgender? Didn't know that. Just thought she was a mean, wealthy comedian. With anorexia and other serious psychological dysfunctions.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

"Posted by boldaq (anonymous) on March 7, 2007 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ann Coulter is a very courageous woman. Ann Coulter is Rosa Parks on the bus. She challenges the vicious efficacy of convoluted "thought" crimes by sacrificing herself on the alter of leftwing supremacy."

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Man, you're so predictably good for the best laugh of the day, I might just start cyber-stalking you. The only thing in this post that has any reality is the repeated use of the word "is." You did use "is" correctly. The rest is pure nonsense and fantasy. The colors must be awful bright in your strange little world.

"In fact, Ann Coulter experiences more hateful, vicious personal attacks, both verbal and physical, from wild-eyed bigots in one day than Rosa Parks did in her entire lifetime."

Well, how would that situation have been if Rosa Parks had gone bouncing around telling whites that they "hated freedom" "we're enemies of the United States" and we're treasonous, godless, anti-patriots? She wouldn't have been just attacked, she would have been lynched.

Gabe Hoffman 7 years, 9 months ago

Conservative parents make wild teenagers and great sorority girls.

There, I said one good thing about convservatives.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

RT, this discussion about conservative women supposedly being better looking is why I called you dumb last week. It really has nothing to do with the issue at hand. BEsides, Ann Coulter, even were she to be the most physically attractive woman on the planet, would still be darn ugly. She is a hateful, spiteful bigot....that in and of itself makes one ugly.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by Dambudzo (anonymous) on March 7, 2007 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Poor liberals get called a name and they just fall to pieces.

I think people are upset because of the derogatory use of the word in GENERAL, not because it was directed at Edwards. I people found it to be appalling that the word was used and that people feel that is a joke....Jokes generally are considered funny by the majority of people who hear it. I am guessing that even people in Coulter's own party did not, in general, find her to be funny.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Satchel wrote: I will leave you with this comparison:

The left:

burn American flags

compare the president to Hitler

defend misogynist, homophobic, antisemite regimes

leak national secrets to their media outlets

campaign against surveillance of terrorists

join the Nazis and Islamofascists in their campaign against the Jews - sorry - "zionists"

join the fruitcakes in their quest to blame Bush for 9/11

call for the murder of political opponents

campaign for constitutional rights for captured taliban

pray for defeat in iraq

Can you please give me some evidence?
RT, S/he said the left "prays for defeat in Iraq". Why have you not refudiated this? I thought we did not pray at all......

boldaq 7 years, 9 months ago

Tell 'em, Ann!

"This makes it official: It's illegal to be Republican.

Since Teddy Kennedy walked away from a dead girl with only a wrist slap (which was knocked down to a mild talking-to, plus time served: zero), Democrats have apparently become a protected class in America, immune from criminal prosecution no matter what they do.

As a result, Democrats have run wild, accepting bribes, destroying classified information, lying under oath, molesting interns, driving under the influence, obstructing justice and engaging in sex with underage girls, among other things."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20070307/cm_ucac/shootingelephantsinabarrel

beatrice 7 years, 9 months ago

If the media is so liberal, as I keep hearing, why isn't there a major story on the LJW site about the conviction of our vice president's right hand man? Could it be just another lie from the right? Yep.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 9 months ago

Trying to drum up some traffic on your own forum again, Marion?

Tychoman 7 years, 9 months ago

This idiotic thread should be used as evidence to end the LJWorld's forum policy.

Porter 7 years, 9 months ago

boldaq- "....lying under oath....molesting interns.....obstructing justice..." Democrats? I guess you've misunderstood. Mark Foley and Scooter Libby are Republicans.

Democrats are not without error, but which ones destroyed classified materials and had sex with underage girls??

Are you guys just making stuff up now? Why not just say that every time you vote Democrat, a puppy dies?

lubyloo 7 years, 9 months ago

Ann Coulter is ugliest tranny I've ever seen.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

Probably a lot. There's a huge market in the cynical manipulation and divisiveness sector of the industry.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

I don't know, Right-Thinker. I think if the total failure of Air America shows, the one true advantage the right has over the left is that they are more willing to put their money where their mouths (or minds) are. Sadly, when that ends up being cynically manipulated divisiveness, it turns out to be a negative trait. But the good is there underneath!

paladin 7 years, 9 months ago

Ann Coulter, as an individual, is inconsequential and irrelevant. Her function as an archetype of mythical status and function is, however. She/He acts and fills the role of a mother figure to the alienated and disenfranchised and the politically and morally traditionalist individuals who perceive themselves to be "conservative" American citizens. Their anger, frustration, anxiety and fears are projected onto her/his persona which becomes a characterization of their own inner turmoil. As "Mom", she will take care of them and make everything right and seek and get revenge in the process. She is only an extension of and external manifestation of their negative selves. And she/he capitalizes on this, bigtime, by manipulating and using them for her own benefit. Don't give her that control over you. You give to her her power and potential for influence and evil behavior. Take back you own destiny, because she, and other archetypes like her, are surely taking it, and have been for some time, from you. If you do not, your beloved America will surely be lost.

BigAl 7 years, 9 months ago

scenebooster... Your post of 9:07 is great. Those quotes shouldn't leave any doubt.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

scenebooster: You're being deliberately obtuse, and I believe that you know it. I'll spell it out for you, just to attempt to put an end to it. It is a two part, conditional sentence "if Cheney died" "more people would live." The "if" in the first question strips him of any straight literal interpolation towards him saying Cheney should be dead, but with the conditionality of the second clause of the sentence Maher either A) Wishes Cheney was dead, or B) Wishes there were more "other people" that were dead, as those are the two possible results of the conditional clause. His desire in this is inherent in the utterance of the sentence in the first place.

It was a stupid thing to say, and there is no way that he, you, or anyone else knows if it is factually true. He was just trying to shock and get people to talk about him, just like Ann Coulter.

Can we drop this now? It's really a very silly argument that you're trying to engage in.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

right-thinker: "Scenebooster is one of the more offensive liberal posters FYI....but there are so many---well, you find it out on your own."

Aren't there, like, four or five? Granted, they post a lot, but I don't think there are more of them than that.

lunacydetector 7 years, 9 months ago

what is it that ann coulter said anyway? i've always liked her.

Navin_R_Johnson 7 years, 9 months ago

Defender: "Good lord, she is the manliest looking thing I have ever seen, homely as the day is long. Looks like a crack whore."

naw, shes a good lookin' woman!

you're jes angry, jealous and displacin' cuz you got one bodacious a$$!

Kodiac 7 years, 9 months ago

I don't know anything about the Maher conversation or complete transcript of it but I do seem to remember that Cheney did have some heart problems recently like maybe 2001. Would these remarks be in reference to that incident? I seriously doubt Bill Maher would come even close (walking that fine line) to suggesting that Dick Cheney should be dead or killed. It would make sense to me though if he was referring to those heart problems.....

Navin_R_Johnson 7 years, 9 months ago

agnostic: "Toodle-oo!"

ats about a sissified a term as i ever herd a grown man say. a course i use the term "man" rather loose here.

maybe ann shoulda directed her slur at you, seems more fittin.' course she'd never get the press she got, you obviously ain't near as important as that other blow dried queen.

paladin 7 years, 9 months ago

Keep doin what you're doin, blind defensiveness, mindless aggression, unquestioning faith in lies, self- righteousness, ignoring the truth when it comes home to you in boxes, and you will keep gettin what you been gettin. Loss of influence, exploitation by those in power and the media, the stealing of your money, being unrepresented in government, destruction of middle-class America, errosion and elimination of the moral and social structure of your element, proliferation of a toxic environment, and more anger, frustration, fear and hopelessness for the future. Its up to you. Not freaks like Ann Coulter and her ilk. You give her the power she/he has. Your choice.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

"On the second point, there is no way say that most likely his point is correct - had Bush/Cheney not come into power, fewer people would have died in Iraq because most likely there would not have been a war in Iraq."

No, but Iraq is not the only place that people could die. Anytime you make a statement conditional on an event in history not happening, or one happening that historically did not, you're just making stuff up.

I'm not going to waste energy on debating about Maher's stupid quote, but during the last half of your post, you either assume a great deal that didn't actually occur in this thread, or you stop talking to me and start talking to someone else. If that's the case, then I suggest you drop the hint that you are, in fact, talking to someone else, because it's either very confusing, or it makes you look foolish. I doubt either was your intent.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by Obamillary (anonymous) on March 8, 2007 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RT, You never left the high road. You have and it appears that you continue to conduct yourself well above the scum puddle of the LJW left. Wish there were more conservatives on this forum. Real thinkers instead of libturd stinkers.

I think I am going to try not to post any more. This is ridiculous. RT, Obamillary, etc....You all are just as guilty, if not more so, of name calling, derisive comments, etc.

Let's see what I've read in this thread and others about "liberals":

SP wackos hysterical nutjobs libturds agnosturds stinkers scum puddle fool far-left loons ugly fat stupid lazy obtuse pro-abortion (that's a laugh....pro-choice apparently means that you think that everyone needs an abortion?) blinding, mind-numbing hysterical intolerance "maybe ann shoulda directed her slur at you" "(most--not all) liberals on this forum are hostile, hysterical and irrational" "[th]ats about a sissified a term as i ever herd a grown man say. a course i use the term "man" rather loose here" "you're jes angry, jealous and displacin' cuz you got one bodacious a$$" scumbags "Democrats have run wild, accepting bribes, destroying classified information, lying under oath, molesting interns, driving under the influence, obstructing justice and engaging in sex with underage girls, among other things" ( I think I've read the same about Republican politicians as well) "pitiful thing is that our liberal left wing goombahs hate GWB more than bin Laden" "Poor liberals get called a name and they just fall to pieces. Big bad girl gots sissy boy all upset. What a man. Maybe we better call off the Bully before she hurts sissy boy's fweelins" "Preparation "H" is more what Agnostick needs----apply to entire body and Agnostick will shrink up like a raisin" "liberal pansies" "I find it hillarious that the agnosturds preach centrist cooperation but smell like a libturd." "Thank you for illustrating fully the hyterical and emotionally disturbed side of the the far-left" "You may be a card carrying liberal, but may I suggest that your sweeping characterization belays a bitter and frustrated simp. Oh yeah, and uncultured too"

These are direct quotes from posts from some of our conservative friends here.

RT, Several of these came coutesy of you. Obamillary, you too. Dambudzo, I think you too.

So on and so forth.

No one here is innocent of making personal attacks or name calling. I know I have done it. However, it seems from some of the posts above, some of you conservatives think you have taken the "high road". This list I compiled tells me differently.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

Haha! Touchy, aren't we?

"Yeah, you're right...if you're too stupid to focus on what we were talking about. Maher's point was obviously in reference to Iraq, not shark attacks off of Bali, or poison twinkies, or whatever distraction you'll throw up next."

Allright. I'm going to spell this out very clearly, and please try to read and think about this before you launch off in reaction. By other places, I was referring to other places our military might be right now. I don't know if you remember this far back, but on 9/11 it wasn't really Bush who started the war, but an Islamic terrorist group. I am going to say, though you are free to question this if you really want, that Bush being in office was irrellevent to the reasons the terrorists attacked us. By that logic, should Gore have been in office, the terrorists would still have attacked us on 9/11. Gore would have reacted in some fashion, and we probably would have gone to Afganistan. We might actually still be there in force, stabilizing the region. We might have moved into Pakistan, hunting for Bin Laden. Hell, Gore might have thrown up a smokescreen like Bush did with Iraq, and we could be Iran, North Korea, Syria, etc etc. Who the hell knows. Not me.

Not you. Not Maher.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

"If you had, it would be obvious that I'm addressing another comment."

Another comment that the commentator will probably not read, as it is addressed to me. I'm all cleared up now, thanks, and if you don't want to be an effective poster, that's your business. Toodles.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by Obamillary (anonymous) on March 8, 2007 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Right_thinker, Have you noticed how the left is always actively seeking to portray themselves as victims. They spew hate, intollerance and generally negative ideas then squeal that conservatives have made them victims. WTF?

Interesting that the forum police officer is the biggest offender.

RT, is scenebooster for real? I mean, do ideologue hippies like that still exist? Probably only in Lawrence, aye.

I believe you have drawn the anger of many of the liberals here because you are correct...the girls of the GOP are generally hot while the DNC girls are not. Would you want to be reminded that your women were horrific freaks of nature? So perhaps we should cut them a little slack, if a freak show is all they can muster then we'll overtake them easily in a couple more years. Who would want to procreate with a liberal chick?"

Obamillary, you are shooting yourself in the foot. Your first paragraph runs fully contradictory to your last....

"Have you noticed how the left is always actively seeking to portray themselves as victims. They spew hate, intollerance and generally negative ideas then squeal that conservatives have made them victims"

but then you go on to spew vitriole yourself: "the girls of the GOP are generally hot while the DNC girls are not. Would you want to be reminded that your women were horrific freaks of nature? So perhaps we should cut them a little slack, if a freak show is all they can muster then we'll overtake them easily in a couple more years. Who would want to procreate with a liberal chick?"

Not that it really needs to be said, but again, it is truly irrelevant to ANY political discussion what people look like. I could certainly also state that GOP men are generally not hot, while the DNC men are, but A) that is irrelevant and B) probably not true that either is "hotter" than the other.

Let me just add these to my lists of hateful things said about liberals on this site:

Their "girls" are "horrific freaks of nature" "the girls of the GOP are generally hot while the DNC girls are not" "if a freak show is all they can muster then we'll overtake them easily in a couple more years" "Who would want to procreate with a liberal chick?"

In answer to your last statement, the majority (though not all) of my friends are liberal. So apparently the husbands of my liberal friends wanted to procreate with them....

Also, I doubt even conservative women like being referred to as "girls".

So if you are the "conservative" forum PD, shoudl you not follow your own complaints and stop issuing unsolicited derisive manifestos about liberals.

Tell me something new.

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

"So, we know that jonas doesn't like me, doesn't mind Ann Coulter, and thinks Bill Maher is bad.

What a complete and total waste of time."

Yes, missing the boat on reality completely, and then substituting your own questionable spin on everything that is going on around you frequently turns out to be a total waste of time. And you have, indeed, missed the boat completely if that synopsis is what you got out of everything I posted. Oh well.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Another derisive comment directed at liberals to add to my lists:

Obamillary wrote: "Dear Defecator" (Obamillary is very clever) "If I had to take a guess as to who you are I'd guess you're a woman, age 35-45, divorced, probably 5'5" tall and 200-250 pounds. Probably a really big butt and you blame the world for the fact that you have no social life. You seek affirmation on this blog and attack others in a feeble attempt to build your own lack of self esteem.

Ann Coulter on the other hand is a tall, slender women with good looks, articulate and smart. Very popular and successful."

Obamillary, what's your issue with people who are overweight? You keep on talking about this. So, do you make fun of Dennis Hastert? I thought he was like Noah to you guys....

I don't know if I would refer to Coulter as "popular". I guess that depends on your definition.

This is way funner than attempting to reason with any of you all. I get to simply pick apart your conservative posts to find examples of the pot calling the kettle black since you guys think you take the high road. Thanks guys, you're making my afternoon, but alas, I have some of those "lazy poor" people to go see. Thanks to conservative ideology of "boot strap" help, a social workers work is never done.

chicklet 7 years, 9 months ago

Marie Antoinette didn't really say that

BOE 7 years, 9 months ago

" Guess why? Because moveon.org got a petition going saying FNC was a "Repulican mouthpiece and not a credible news organization".

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Regardless of moveon's petition, it's well documented that FNC is a Republican mouthpiece.

As far as, "..not a credible news organization", well...... ;)

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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/05/fox-news-anna-nicole-walter-reed/

VIDEO COMPILATION: Fox News Devoted 12 Times More Coverage To Anna Nicole Than Walter Reed

Our national media embarrassment was again on full display on Friday. Both MSNBC and Fox News devoted more coverage to Anna Nicole Smith - three weeks after her death on Feb. 8 - than they did to the multiple developments involving the neglect and deplorable conditions at Walter Reed military hospital.

The most lop-sided coverage by far was aired by Fox News, which featured only 10 references to Walter Reed compared to 121 of Anna Nicole - roughly 12 times the coverage. MSNBC featured 84 references to Walter Reed and 96 to Anna Nicole.

References to Anna Nicole and Walter Reed on cable networks on March 2:

NETWORK _ANNA NICOLE WALTER REED FOX NEWS __121 __10 MSNBC ___96 __84 CNN __40 __53

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

"Posted by scenebooster (anonymous) on March 8, 2007 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"And you have, indeed, missed the boat completely if that synopsis is what you got out of everything I posted."

I got absolutely nothing out of what you posted, as it was drivel."

There was no need to reinforce my point. It stood well enough on its own. I appreciate it, but you don't have to go to the effort in the future.

BOE 7 years, 9 months ago

Walter Reed is just more evidence of the Bush Administration's Katrina/"Heckuva job Brownie" style incompetence.

It's about the way the wounded are being treated, not the war. They'll never fix a damn thing if their feet aren't held to the fire. Because of the WashPost story, recovering soldiers will now and in the future, receive better treatment. Of course that costs tax dollars, so I can see why you're disappointed.

This is what happens after 6 years of Republicans in charge of committees that handle oversight and accountability, esp. with a Republican president.

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Sooo...

shall we learn about the treatment of our military who have been wounded,

OR ,

the tragic, tragic, tragic, tragic, tragic, tragic, tragic, tragic, tragedy that is the Anna Nicole Smith saga?:

FauxNews decides!

Somebody else will have to do the reporting.

BOE 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by right_thinker

" Pilgrim, it is indeed a bitter pill to swallow for the far-left knowing full well that FNC is the top rated news channel. "

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LOL

Hence the obsession with A N Smith, right? Is that news?

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http://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2007/01/09/daily.14/ A ratings point represents 1,114,000 households, or 1 percent of the nation's estimated 111.4 million TV homes. The share is the percentage of in-use televisions tuned to a given show.

NBC's "Nightly News" won the evening-news ratings race, averaging 9.9 million viewers (6.9, 13).

ABC's "World News" had 9.5 million viewers (6.6, 12) and the

"CBS Evening News" had 7.6 million (5.2, 9).


Fox News ratings take a steep tumble

Its audience is down 24 percent from a year ago

By Kevin Downey Nov 2, 2006

October was the 10th anniversary of Fox News, and in that 10 years it has risen to the No. 1 cable news network, riding on the tagline "Fair and Balanced."

Yet Fox News is showing serious signs of aging, led by steep audience declines.

Fox News's total audience fell 24 percent in the past year, to 1.3 million viewers from 1.7 million, and its key primetime audience, viewers ages 25-54, was down 7 percent in October on a year-to-year basis, to an average 363,000 viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research data.

In third quarter, Fox News suffered a 38 percent decline in 25-54s, to 409,000. In second quarter, that audience was down 22 percent and in first quarter it slid 28 percent. It is still No. 1 by a long shot.

Fox attributes the 2006 declines to a soft news year compared to 2005, which saw audiences shoot up during events like Hurricane Katrina, the Asian tsunami and the death of Pope John Paul II.

Bill Shine, senior vice president of programming at Fox News, tells Media Life: "The numbers that everybody goes by are year-to-year numbers, and 2005 was an incredible year for news compared to 2006."

But Fox's problems go deeper than that. If it was just the dearth of big stories this year, all the other cable networks would be down as well. Two were actually up in October.

CNN has also been down steeply this year in total viewers and 25-54s but not as much as Fox, and in October its 25-54 primetime audience was essentially flat at down 1 percent.

And both Headline News and MSNBC were actually up in that demo last month, by 18 percent and 19 percent.

more......

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman/publish/article_8294.asp

Crossfire 7 years, 9 months ago

Watch the whole show, not just the sound bite. Pay attention. Make up your own mind...?

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

"But, again, it's all GWB's fault per usual. If our next prez is a Dem (which I doubt) can't wait to see what the liberal press let's he or she get away with."

Right, because that certainly happened during Clinton's watch, didn't it?

BOE 7 years, 9 months ago

Pilgrim : "Notice a pattern there, BOE?"

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Yep. There's nearly 1.8 million FNC viewers that know more about the ongoing ANS tragedy, than the poor slobs who watch CNN, MSNBC, CNBC. At least that many almost got to know "How OJ did it." ;)

Definitely a pattern.

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"Cheerleading for the the right? You'd have to be nuts to think so."

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A person would have to be delusional not to see it. You don't know who Ailses is?

"Fair and balanced" is _ their _ joke. Surely you get that, right?

It's not a claim, it's a taunt ... like "No Spin Zone", "We report, you decide" or when Fox News "wishes you well".

- One of a series of FOX e-mails that were leaked to the press:

"Bush's political courage and tactical cunning are worth noting in our reporting through the day,"

  • FOX News chief John Moody e-mail to staffers on June 3, 2003

BigDog 7 years, 9 months ago

This is unbelievable, three days of discussion on Ann Coulter. She would love all of this attention.

deec 7 years, 9 months ago

Nah, they're just self-deluded. Or maybe they own stock in defense contractors: http://iraqforsale.org/

staff04 7 years, 9 months ago

Hey there, r-t. How goes it? I was just thinking that since you have pretty much exhausted all of the ridiculous rhetoric here, maybe you should jump over to the Gingrich story and make yourself look a fool there, too. Here's a test: can you defend him without mentioning Clinton? Not that anyone bought it, but he sure squirms to try to take it out of context.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Marion, I notice you seem continually obsessed by who is gay or not gay....I have seen you make these comments before. You also appear obsessed with whether women are fat or not.
Who knows if Edwards is gay...maybe he is, maybe he isn't. If he was, would that make it any better that Coulter used the word in a vry derogatory fashion at a VERY public gathering? She basically used sarcasm to say that this word should be allowed to be freely used. Well, freedom of speech says yes, but for most thinking adults, I would propose that social mores dictate no.

Are you gay Marion? You have been asked this before and dance around as well. Quite frankly, I really couldn't care. Most gay men love me.

james bush 7 years, 9 months ago

Coulter is overbearing...................but better to hear her dumb remarks than the inane remarks of Senators Kennedy, Reid, Durbin, Shumer,Clinton or the other creeps. Wish she'd shut up though!

Crispian Paul 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by Marion (Marion Lynn) on March 9, 2007 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No, Crispian, I am decidedly heterosexual, having a preference for long, thin, blue-eyed blondes, preferably, two at a time.

Darn, Marion. I guess I don't stand a chance with you sobbing. I am a tall, well endowed brunette with green eyes. Suppose that according to some of the theories posited here, I am probably ugly and fat, seeing as how I am a liberal.

Porter 7 years, 9 months ago

More of Marion's incredible logic and reasoning.

Mkh 7 years, 9 months ago

I just had to check in on this thread to see how in the world over three hundred comments could be posted about Coulter. Only to find the only answer possible, Marion ranting about his "love life", sad old man is way off topic again blabbing about his alledged personal life. Yet Marion you are always the first one to charge the LJW with running stories about personal interests and "free advertising".

If you want to "chat" about your girlfriends/boyfriends try this site...www.myspace.com

Grundoon Luna 7 years, 9 months ago

Elvis H. Presley!! Give this BS a rest why don't ya.

Marion, though I can't imagine why you are so relentless in your persuit of an answer, to answer your burning question about Edwards' orientation: I have extraordinarily accurate gay-dar and Edwards is no-where on the screen, not one blip.

He's a hottie. If he weren't married he definitely be do-able.

boldaq 7 years, 9 months ago

"He's a hottie. If he weren't married he definitely be do-able."

You sound like a man who knows what he wants.

Grundoon Luna 7 years, 9 months ago

Don't feel bad, boldaq, someone may mistake you for a man someday, too.

staff04 7 years, 9 months ago

Posted by right_thinker (anonymous) on March 9, 2007 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Here's a test: can you defend him without mentioning Clinton?" -staff04

Well yes, staff, I can.

Newt didn't lie to a federal judge about his extraterrestrial affair.

You guys are just simply the best---what else can I say?!?!

So you're okay with extramarital affairs?

Wow, I'm a "raging secular progressive liberal libtard loony lefty," and I don't think it is ok. And you guys like to harp about your values...

Mkh 7 years, 9 months ago

324 comments on the thread, and guess what, your still off topic talking about YOURSELF, Marion/RT. I understand you guys are lonely, but do you have to pollute Every thread with this junk?

jonas 7 years, 9 months ago

Himen hai zai shuo ne ma?

(fixed my grammar)

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