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Dever, Chestnut, incumbent Highberger win commission race

April 4, 2007

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Voters on Tuesday ensured there will be a four-letter word ringing throughout City Hall in the coming weeks and months: Jobs.

Voters in the Lawrence City Commission race (see detailed results) made clear-cut winners out of candidates Mike Dever and Rob Chestnut, who spent most of their campaigns talking about the need for more jobs in the community.

Incumbent Commissioner Boog Highberger held on and finished third, which will give him a two-year term on the commission. Incumbent Commissioner David Schauner lost his bid for re-election, finishing fourth in the race.

"Our job numbers in this community speak loudly," said Dever, the owner of a Lawrence-based environmental consulting firm. "They show we can really do better."

The election results mean there will be two new faces on the five-member commission when Dever and Chestnut begin four-year terms next Tuesday. Commissioner Mike Rundle did not run for re-election.

In an election that featured a turnout of 18.9 percent, Dever led the six-member field with 7,349 votes, or 20.6 percent of the total. He was followed by:

¢ Chestnut, chief financial officer for Allen Press, with 6,797 votes, or 19 percent.

¢ Highberger, an attorney for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, with 6,191 votes, or 17.3 percent.

¢ Schauner, general counsel for the Kansas National Education Assn., with 5,491 votes, or 15.4 percent.

¢ James Bush, a former pastor at a Lawrence church, with 4,960 votes, or 13.9 percent.

¢ Carey Maynard-Moody, a retired school social worker, with 4,784 votes, or 13.4 percent.

A preliminary analysis of vote totals showed that Dever and Chestnut did particularly well in the western portion of the city. Chestnut said while walking those neighborhoods, he found residents were especially concerned about the city's economy.

"There are a lot of commuters in those neighborhoods," said Chestnut, a Lawrence native. "They are concerned about a lack of jobs (in Lawrence)."

Some candidates, though, questioned whether the election results - coupled with the record amounts of money Chestnut and Dever raised - signaled a major building boom in west Lawrence at the expense of other parts of the community. Maynard-Moody said she was "concerned about the urban core."

Schauner - who congratulated the winners on running good campaigns - said community members should "keep an eye on" the Wal-Mart proposal for Sixth and Wakarusa Drive that has the city involved in a lawsuit set for trial April 16.

"I think you will see a lot of change in the amount of retail square footage out in west Lawrence," Schauner said. "I think there will be a lot of changes out west."

Dever and Chestnut, though, sought to quell any notions that the election had created a split within the community.

"I won't be representing any single part of the city," Dever said. "I promise I will be concerned about every square foot of the city. Anybody who says otherwise doesn't know me."

Highberger, who was first elected in 2003, also said he would be working to maintain many of the policies that the commission has created during his time in office. He said he didn't view the election results as a mandate for complete change.

"I think the votes show that there are still a significant number of people who are pleased with what we've been doing and what we've accomplished," Highberger said. "I'm going to continue working hard."

Comments

Richard Heckler 7 years, 8 months ago

Cannot fire the planning commission however look for Hack to eliminate them as much as she can as Mayor. Then when her appointments return the planning commission back to the days of old, meaning real estate industry controlled, then the rubber stamping will begin once again. 18% voting did not say alter government to that extreme.

18% voting turnout was hardly a mandate. It says either voters did not give a damn or were simply not happy with the choice of candidates. An interesting poll of about 60,000 voters as why they failed to exercise their right might be in order.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 8 months ago

Question:

How much money was spent by each candidate?

Considering the very low voter participation why was it necessary to spend more than $16,000?

Considering the very low voter participation is anyone declaring this election a mandate?

Sigmund 7 years, 8 months ago

You know I saw more ads for Boog than any candidate yet he came in third. Can one person in this forum claim they changed their votes because of an ad? I just wish Moody had done better job. Each vote she got came from Boog and Schauner. She got enough to boot Schauner, if only she had gotten enough to send Boog packing as well. James Bush ran a decent campaign and he seems like a decent enough guy. Good luck to him in the future.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"Dever and Chestnut, though, sought to quell any notions that the election had created a split within the community."

They obviously haven't looked at the breakout in vote totals.

"It's called $$ talks and BS walks!!"

What the hell does that mean? The $$ in this case couldn't be more full of BS. Chestnut and the rest of the commission will create nothing significant in the way of jobs in the next two years, taxes will continue to rise, and infrastructure in the older parts of town will continue to be neglected in favor of new development.

The only thing we can count or are new faces on the planning commission, and with a 4-1 pave-it-over majority, I expect to see the city commission overruling the planning commission on numerous occasions until the developers can pack the planning commission with their friends once again.

We'll get a new Wal-Mart on W. 6th, and lose a couple of Dillons, and sales tax reciepts will remain flat, no matter how much retail is added out west as developers are allowed carte blanche to build whatever they want.

But Dever and Chestnut will have done exactly what their contributors have paid them to do.

jayhawks71 7 years, 8 months ago

Sigmund, I am disappointed that, with a name like that, you would focus a comment on conscious awareness of change due to an ad. Any afficionado of consumer behavior would know that a large part of the influence of advertising happens without a clear conscious awareness.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

MERRILL let me tell you why they lost because of logboy and you copy and pasting till there heads hurt.And the only reason you got boog in there was because of bushes name,now you will see a differant boog but it wont matter now will it

bluerose 7 years, 8 months ago

it cracks me up that people think two republicans in sheep's clothing are going to personally create more jobs in Lawrence.

shame on those who didn't bother to vote.

gccs14r 7 years, 8 months ago

Now we'll look like Olathe. whee. No sense in staying here. Time to start looking around.

Kaw Pickinton 7 years, 8 months ago

And I'm looking forward to the j-o-b-$ that everyone east of Lawrence Ave will have at walmart!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"Each vote she got came from Boog and Schauner."

Each voter had three votes, Sigmund. Your analysis is downright absurd.

scott3460 7 years, 8 months ago

And now we are become an annex of Johnson County - with all the blandness and moral corruption that entails. Goodbye Lawrence. And shame on you all.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

Judging by the vote totals, there were a large number of voters who voted for only Chestnut and Dever, but did not vote for Bush.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

well lets see who gets fired at city hall in the next 2 months

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

now welcome to lawrence kansas the answeris no will be gone. great job Dever andChestnut now lets fire all on the planning comish

bonzo 7 years, 8 months ago

Yes! The people have spoken! There is a mandate for change! Start up the bulldozers! Finish the SLT. Merrill, you and the rest of the PLC crowd please report to the new Wal Mart detention center at 6th & Wak. for political re-education. You will be trained to think for yourself, and slowly weaned off your cut and paste addiction.

happilycaffienated 7 years, 8 months ago

Regarding infrastructure in older parts of town - Chestnut works East of Mass St. Perhaps that will help.

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Do you think those of us who buy local whenever possible will miss people who write off a city based on one election? Goodbye for now, but when you realize how much good there still is here, and how much better it is than so many other places, we'll expect to see you again. And we won't have to hold grudges. We'll be too busy enjoying what Lawrence has to offer.

monkeyhawk 7 years, 8 months ago

Funny how the blame for the plc loss is placed on those who did not vote. Reality is a hard thing for some of you to grasp.

Thanks to everyone on the west side who turned out, and congrats to future mayor Dever and Mr. Chestnut. Many of us waited a long time for yesterday to come.

boozo, merrill and the rest of the plc supporters are probably feeling pretty miserable today. I feel your pain. Since none of you live in or visit our "sprawl" (Schauner excepted), you were probably unaware of the deeply seeded dissatisfaction. I won't go over the issues, but please understand that most of us in this part of our city like it here. We like weed free lawns and kept grounds. We like choices in retail and far less regulation. We don't shop downtown and have an aversion to the special treatment of one privately owned area of town over all others.

It is quite offensive when you refer to the west side as anything less than what you live in. Had we embraced your lifestyles, we would have purchased there. How can you advocate acceptance and diversity, but are some of the most intolerant people in the country?

Tell you what, if you are so incensed that your guys lost, why don't you push for a split right down Iowa? That seems to be a very clear dividing line according to precinct voting. But, we'll take WalMart and you can have the Merc.

altarego 7 years, 8 months ago

A mandate is determined against the people that actually vote. Non-voters sitting on their couches bitching are against America.

Sigmund 7 years, 8 months ago

Three votes for six candidates or three votes for four or five candidates. If each voter had three votes and if there had only been four candidates (Bush and Moody sit out) it is likely that Boog and Mike would have both been re-elected with either Dever or Chestnut filling the only nonincumbent open seat. This of course assumes that those who voted for Moody and Boog but not for Mike would have voted for Mike if Moody had not been around.

Sigmund 7 years, 8 months ago

jayhawk71, you and I B the Only peOple in lawrence with stronG enough minds not to Be swayed by the subLiminal messages Of Watched commerciaS.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 8 months ago

All that money spent generated only 2000-3000 more votes for the top two winners. That says to me voters were perhaps not happy with the choices period. It would be good to hear from the other 45,000 voters who could/did not get to the polls.

Should voting hours be altered to accommodate our estimated 12,000-15000 commuters and other "9-5" workers? Can you imagine rushing home in rush hour traffic after working all day and feeling like voting if poll locations are not on the way home? Or needing to pick up children before voting or going home?

Perhaps voting booths are closed before returning from work?

New voting hours: 10AM - 9PM?

Don't know if this would have changed anything but low voter participation is a problem no matter the issues.

shockchalk 7 years, 8 months ago

Big surprise that Merril is already busy with his "spin" on the election. Voter turnout was in line with what was expected in a city council race. The fact is, when people are soooo sure that they are right, they are unwilling to accept the truth. It's a shame that some people are so full of pride (and themselves) that they NEVER admit they are wrong.

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

Shauner said his "greatest achievements were hiring Corliss,funding the budget,cleaning up Farmland site and "snow removal was a problem this winter".

West of Lawrence did not decide the position of the candidates, they raised the numbers but not the positions. 20% of the voting population in Lawrence made the decision.(KLWN 8:30 pm)

altarego 7 years, 8 months ago

Right on, monkeyhawk!!

Split it down Iowa! Leave them to themselves! I'll take sprawl over slums any day!

!!!!

happilycaffienated 7 years, 8 months ago

Do we know what percentages of our much discussed tax dollars are collected on the east vs. west sides of Iowa?

cantbelievemyeyes 7 years, 8 months ago

Merrill, Now maybe we can get jobs in Lawrence so that the commuters won't have to comute anymore and will not have to worry about the hours for voting.

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

It would not have made a difference for longer poll hours.

Advanced ballots counted first: Dever 22%,Chestnut 21%,Highberger 15 %, Bush 15%,Shauner,Moody.

roger_o_thornhill 7 years, 8 months ago

bonzo- Going to walmart to learn to think for yourself? I'm not a lover or hater of walmart, but I don't think it is a bastion of independent thought. And if they can't make any money on it, I don't see them doing any educating.

Now, what's this I hear about 18% voter turnout? Are you kidding me? I know there were only two questions on the ballot, but come on. More than 18% of Lawrence posts here. Which ones of you sons of bitches didn't vote. I don't even care if you did it the way many people who actually turn out do it (i.e. whatever names you remember from yard signs). Get over yourselves and get off your damn asses. BTW national elections are generally less important to your daily life than local ones.

And another thing, if all these hypothetical jobs I've also been hearing about become actual jobs, I certainly hope that it isn't in the service industry. Don't build a casino (or whatever) here and boast about 200 new jobs. That's better than 0 jobs in 0 ways. That is the only sector of the local economy that has an abundance of positions. Most service industry companies here are understaffed as it is. Management takes on some of the left over workload, or more often, divides it amongst the already undersized staff. To wrap up this little diatribe, shifting the workforce from one low-paying job to another and bringing in workers from other parts to fill jobs unwanted by local labor force is hardly worth boasting about. Not from a "jobs" standpoint anyways.

monkeyhawk 7 years, 8 months ago

"Should voting hours be altered to accommodate our estimated 12,000-15000 commuters and other "9-5" workers? Can you imagine rushing home in rush hour traffic after working all day and feeling like voting if poll locations are not on the way home? Or needing to pick up children before voting or going home?"

merrill, the consumate hypocrite...... it was not too long ago you were telling people who commute that they are contributing to global warming and that they should move where they work. NOW, you want to accomodate them?? Maybe it is the commuters you offended that did in your buds. Besides, it is easier than ever to vote, you know, that advance voting thing.

As far as log goes, here is what I have to say to you.....

cowboy 7 years, 8 months ago

looking at the vote distributions it was interesting to see the PLC's strength areas , the small old city core. A small group of residents/constituents had held the city hostage the last 4-6 years.

Now its time to get the old driftwood off the commissions , planning , traffic , get the rest of the loons back to carrying picket signs and not running the city

Richard Heckler 7 years, 8 months ago

Hopefully the jobs that maybe come to Lawrence will be high wage so that many commuters can give up commuting which I have been advocating for a few years now. What kinds of jobs are some of you expecting? The current commission set things up so we'll see.

So it has been explained to me abatements do not work except with high wage payroll.

Wal-Mart won't do the trick.

New Century Financial, one of the largest sub-prime lenders in the US, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

New Century sought protection from creditors after it was forced by its backers to repurchase billions of dollars worth of bad loans.

The company said it would immediately cut 3,200 jobs, more than half of its workforce, as a result of the move.

Sub-prime lenders, who target customers with poor credit histories, have suffered from a downturn in the market.

Shares in New Century were suspended in March on fears the company may be heading for bankruptcy, following a sharp rise in people defaulting on their loans.

New Century's creditors include investment bank Goldman Sachs and Britain's Barclays bank.

The company said it planned to sell its loan servicing operations to Carrington Capital Management for $139m (£70m), subject to bankruptcy approval.

Barclays deal

Leading US economists warned on Monday that the current tide of defaults in the sub-prime mortgage sector would continue to weigh on the US's slowing housing market.

"We suspect the problem in the sub-prime area is just the tip of the iceberg for the mortgage market as a whole," said senior economist David Shulman, in the University of California's quarterly Anderson Report.

"For all practical purposes, the sub-prime market is in the process of shutting down."

The slowing US housing market, coupled with rising US interest rates, has meant fewer sub-prime customers have been able to keep up with mortgage and loan repayments.

In a separate development, Barclays Bank said it was buying US sub-prime lender EquiFirst for $76m - substantially less than the $225m the UK firm first offered for the group.

Barclays, which is in merger talks with Dutch bank ABN Amro, said the lower price reflected growing problems in the US housing and sub-prime markets.

However, a spokesman for Barclays said: "We think EquiFirst is positioned for profitable growth."

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

log: look up commercial real estate + Lawrence, Kansas. Rolling 80 acre tract available for development. Site is directly west of the intersection of Wakarusa Drive and Queens Road. Price:$2,240,000 We already need damage control.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 8 months ago

I do not believe downtown will be destroyed by any means as some have big investments in downtown. Downtown Lawrence is a good investment which will not die.

It would not surprise me to see another national chain store or two on mass. If located in the 900 and 1000 blocks of Mass it could improve business for all because of increased walk by traffic which is what small stores thrive on. Big name anchors in downtowns were common yet surrounded by small business people.

Yep there is a lot of growth along south 59 which is prompting the county commissioners to improve county roads which will take drivers to JOCO and K-10 and of course encourage residential growth. Expect a tax increase in the future.

cowboy 7 years, 8 months ago

the city is laying the groundwork for south of the wetlands with the new sewer plant and the frigging pipe running thru a neighbors house and one of our pastures. They don't seem to have a problem with tearing up prime farmland including the area east of 59 for new interchanges.That whole area is going to change in the next few years.

It would seem the best idea is to redevelop the inner core of the city. Find grants/incentives and change a few of the current codes so owner rehab can occur. Right now if you own a property but it is not your primary residence you must hire a general contractor to pull the permits , etc . all this does is add major cost to your rehab. Start by cutting some of the red tape. I'm not for sprawl at all , hey I'm rhymin , but you could create a lot of jobs and rebuild the many rotting central and east lawrence neighborhoods if you put the right process in place including the code requirements for rental properties.

sourpuss 7 years, 8 months ago

I am still not impressed by any of the candidates. Using "Jobs" to get elected was a smooth move, but no one put forth any real ideas to bring GOOD jobs into the city. The fact is that none of them can because there is very little Lawrence can do to attract good employers. Our infastructure is a mess, we're closing neighborhood schools, our housing is poorly built, and our city is extremely auto-intensive, even to buy a pint of milk.

Lawrence needs to be a better place to LIVE to attract high-end employers. Thirty years of serving commuters has taken its toll. There needs to be more investment in the community first. You can't sell your house if you don't fix it first.

We'll be in the exact same posistion two years from now, and four years from now, and probably still be in the same position when we have an entirely new city commission. Perhaps when people stop whining about paying taxes can we actually fix some things and make Lawrence nice.

Roadkill_Rob 7 years, 8 months ago

Question:

Why do you live in Lawrence if you want the suburban lifestyle and commute to Johnson County? Why wouldn't you just live there?

Kathy Gates 7 years, 8 months ago

It's not that simple, Roadkill. My husband and I both live in Lawrence and both commute. He commutes west to Topeka and I commute east to KC. (not Johnson County, btw...) We both are in professional positions--and neither one of our jobs is available in Lawrence. Bring in white-collar jobs comparable to what we do and earn now and we'd happily stop commuting.

FreetoBe47 7 years, 8 months ago

Plumberscrack,

Boog is like a bad penny that will just not go away! At least we have a fighting chance now with Deaver and Chesnut in there. What has Highberger accomplished since he has been a city commissioner? Nothing to be proud of thats for sure. I think he needs to quit smokin and tokin and come down to earth. Since that will probably never happen unfortunately we are just stuck with him for the time being.

Andie_01 7 years, 8 months ago

I think everyone can agree that no one wants to see Lawrence's charm and uniqueness go away--that's part of the reason we all live here. Why does development mean the other has to go away? My family still loves just going down to Mass to walk around even though we live on the "west side", in fact we make a point to do it, but I think something is definitely broken in the local economy and a different approach needs to be taken. There's a happy medium that can be met (i.e. build the Walmart not at the corner of Wak & 6th, but a few miles down the road by the K-10 interchange where it won't create nearly the amount of traffic problems, but it's still convenient.)

minko224 7 years, 8 months ago

How could Lawrence have chosen a Mayor with such a bad wig? Isn't the modern day comb over a shaved head? Shouldn't our Mayor be up to date? I say take the rug off and shave it Mayor!

buffalo_star 7 years, 8 months ago

Life is never fair, control is an illusion, only the earth and sky remain we are all dust in the wind! So find a way to be happy ;-)

Richard Heckler 7 years, 8 months ago

Cowboy wasn't their a water line hassle recently in your area as well?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"It would seem the best idea is to redevelop the inner core of the city."

Then you voted for the wrong candidates, cowboy.

Lifelong_Lawrencian 7 years, 8 months ago

Redevelop the inner core of the city? How could this possibly be done? Raze a bunch of those 800 sf. two-stories with no garages down Connecticut that are worth 70k each and replace them new traditional development for 250k each. It will never work. A developer would never be stupid enough and old west Lawrence would revolt. The same people that are against sprawl and supposedly for renewal would scream the loudest that we were exacerbating the affordable housing problem

MyName 7 years, 8 months ago

I'm tired of this Tard Fest. It's a good thing none of you posters are truly representative of the voting public in Lawrence, because we'd be in serious trouble. Honestly, from now on why don't some of you try reading your posts aloud to a friend, a neighbor, a child, or heck, even a small dog and see what they think of it before you hit the submit button. You know this stuff stays on the Internet for pretty much forever! Which means you guys are gonna look selfish and stupid forever.

What a pathetic waste of bandwidth.

kugrad 7 years, 8 months ago

I think the voting shows that, unlike many regular posters to the LJW, many actually pay some attention to what the candidates actually did in office and/or their platforms. I suspect that Dever got votes from some of the same people that voted for Highberger. Note that Highbergers and Schauner did not have the same vote totals - and neither did Dever and Chestnut. People in Lawrence want people who they trust, and that is why Boog is back. Many here love to group Boog, Schauner and Rundle together, and there is some reason to do so. However, if one actually looks at their voting records and their term in office, Boog voted independently. They did not vote as a block. Highberger kept his word to developers when they submitted plans that were asked for and made changes the commission wanted. The other two didn't always do so. In other words, the business community knows that Boog Highberger is not anti-business nor anti-development. Similarly, many Lawrencians are capable of looking beyond the rhetoric and seeing that Dever (based on his campaign) has some of the same priorities and values as those labled "progressives," like Boog. I think we will find that this group is able to work fairly well together. Frequent posters here saw the candidates as a group. I know sometimes I was guilty of thinking this way. I think the voters were smarter and looked at each candidate.

Godot 7 years, 8 months ago

Logrithmic wrote about Monkeyhawk:

"Look who's intolerant: Weed free lawns? Look-a-like boxes? 2 to 3 car families? Make-up before you shop? You represent the most conforming part of Lawrence. "

What a hoot!

Lifelong_Lawrencian 7 years, 8 months ago

That was extremely positive. Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

Thank god for anonymity.

Lifelong_Lawrencian 7 years, 8 months ago

kugrad,

I think you are right on. I voted for the top three for that reason. I don't always agree with Boog, but I like him and respect him. I hope he sticks to his ideals, because if he makes his case, I think the new guys will listen.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"How childish but, typical. when things don't go your way, you strike out at a persons physical traits."

And how many times have you made exactly such comments about those you dislike, consumer1? As a matter of fact, those sorts of comments typify the anti-PLC rhetoric on this board.

camper 7 years, 8 months ago

Lawrence is a beautiful city because of it's size. However, this does not mean that the city comissioners should make it difficult for new businesses to come into Lawrence. Better paying jobs will lead to improvements across the board (i.e. local consumer spending, tax revenues, etc). I feel a sense of promise brought about by this change. I also hope that people will quit talking about this square footage nonsense. You can use these fake statistics to make any argument desired.

EXks 7 years, 8 months ago

yipeeee Yappiiieee and Yahoooooieeeeee!! Dancing feet all over the place. Ha ha ha ha ha ha, Yup I am hear to rub your nose in it.. Har har har. Congrats to the NEW Lawrence, Kansas. We can finally cut down all the pot plants growing in city hall.....consumer1


Hey consumer 1.... let's start by bulldozing homes, schools and trees in YOUR neighborhood. let's build one of those fancy "faux pau environmental friendly" Wal-Marts. You and the Mrs/Mr would love it! Where can you buy a pair of 'made in China' shoes for $12.99??

I just finished reading, 'The Selling of Wal-Mart,' in the April 2 issue of The New Yorker. You and Wal-Mart lovers should read it!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"But you don't deny their validity?"

Apparenty, "validity" is a word not taught until the fifth grade.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"I hope he sticks to his ideals, because if he makes his case, I think the new guys will listen."

They may listen, but we already know how they'll vote.

grimpeur 7 years, 8 months ago

Sourpuss and flamingdragon win the cigars!

They've asked the questions that nobody asked the candidates--What, exactly, will the candidates do to bring new jobs to Lawrence. What jobs, exactly, will Chestnut and Dever bring? What economic development tools will they use, and how will these contribute to job development in Lawrence?

Of course, if nobody asks, the candidates don't have to answer these questions.

And they didn't. So they didn't. Nice sweeping generalities in the TV commercials. No details, no plan, no matter.

malkerz 7 years, 8 months ago

personally i am so THRILLED that they are going to put in new DEVELOPMENT in lawrence! Progress, whoah! Jobs. Good Jobs. Walmart Jobs!

I have been commuting to work in the Walmart in Wamego for the past 15 years and I sure am pleased to see that this won't be necessary anymore!!

God bless America!

"Freedom isn't free, it takes slave labor from Chinese" err wait i mean, folks like you and me? err...... all i know is hopefully some day they can build a mega mall so my young daughters can grow up to get a job there at the GAP. Jobs. Real Jobs. Growth. Progress....

rhd99 7 years, 8 months ago

2 Bad BOOG is back. FORGET YOU BOOG!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"I am not a mean person..."

"use that money to pass out bus tickets to those who hang out in front of the stores downtown."

What should be at the other end of those bus tickets?

camper 7 years, 8 months ago

One last thought. I think better employment prospects will help the Lawrence community...I do not believe a new Wal Mart is needed or wanted. Most folks who want better jobs do not Wal-Mart. They'd be more supportive of a company that has better benefits like American Eagle, Halmark, etc.

Weed free lawns are good too. No need for all those extra chemicals. A good rule of thumb....if it is a green weed, it is a good weed. Looks just like grass.

drewdun 7 years, 8 months ago

"Yeah! Lawrence will be just like beautiful and exciting OLATHE, KANSAS! With its many cultural attractions, including thriving art and music scenes, and renowned architectural attractions like 20 miles of unbroken subdivisions, Olathe can teach Lawrence a lot about how to be a world-class city! Personally, I'm looking forward to the day when subdivisions occupy every square inch of Douglas County! Watch out, rural western and southern DoCo, cause HERE WE COME (we, as in yuppie McMansion lovers)! You can kiss the Lawrence that you have come to know and love goodbye - can't stop progress, and such. I wonder when the groundbreaking will be for the twenty or so subdivisions that will occupy ground west of K-10? Can't come soon enough!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBlqMHpeErg

JSDAD 7 years, 8 months ago

What should be at the other end of those bus tickets?

topeka

fletch 7 years, 8 months ago

Hooray! Low paying retail jobs! Surely that will get the commuters working in Lawrence!

Porter 7 years, 8 months ago

"Defund the traffic circles and other obstacles that do nothing but knock front ends out of allignment...."

If you can't turn before you get to the big concrete circle in the middle of the intersection, perhaps you shouldn't be driving...

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"Oskaloosa should be just your cup of tea."

That comment is as stupid and pointless as ever. No one in Lawrence expects it to be even remotely like Oskaloosa, but it's perfectly clear that those who just bought themselves two shiny new commissioners would love to cash in on the continued, and soon to accelerate, transformation of Lawrence into "Olathe West."

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

Great post Edwin.

Cracker Barrel would have brought visitors off I-70 but for that stupid ordinance that allows the Tanger sign but not theirs. Visitors who might pay to stay in a hotel in spite of the guest tax,buy a meal,see a play,spend a little $$. I was told Ophra might have stopped here.....(??).

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

Logboy and Merrill you get no more answers to any thing from now on call boog

BROWNIE 7 years, 8 months ago

Thanks to all that voted, and more thanks to all that blog here. I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

I don't come to this site often, but this has been fun.

Some priceless comments in here. I think it's hilarious that some of you think that voting for business minded people will turn us into some twin to Olathe. Where is Olathe University anyway?

Also hilarious is the notion that downtown will suffer due to the new boys doing the voting. If downtown is smart, it will embrace these new leaders and let them help downtown get some more tenants, both commercial and residential.

I laughed hard at the bloggers poo-pooing the new boys' abilities when it comes to getting jobs in Lawrence. It certainly couldn't get any worse!! The current city commission has done everything in their power to shun any and all interested parties. Why not give these guys a shot?

Thanks for all the laughs!

But try to be a little more positive with your attitudes. You might self fulfill your own prophecies.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

better yet logboy call McClure he needs someone to talk to

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

"Why not give these guys a shot?"

They won the election. They get their shot. And I'm sure they'll succeed at exactly what they really intend to, which is to open the flood gates on development. Everything else is window dressing.

"Thanks for all the laughs! But try to be a little more positive with your attitudes. You might self fulfill your own prophecies."

Those "self-fulfilling prophesies" have been the norm here for the last four years. Why should they all of a sudden become positive now?

shockchalk 7 years, 8 months ago

Great Post Brownie.........try to remember that negativity is the name of the game for most of these folks.....bozo, drewdun, log. They certainly aren't open-minded enough to give any of the new commissioners a chance. You can visit about any day of the week and their theme is the same.........we are right, everyone else is wrong (we are smarter than those who voted for Chestnut and Dever). They know what's best for Lawrence, even if the rest of us (who are surely less intelligent) don't. One things for sure, it's always good for a laugh.

drewdun 7 years, 8 months ago

"Great Post Brownie.........try to remember that negativity is the name of the game for most of these folks.....bozo, drewdun, log. They certainly aren't open-minded enough to give any of the new commissioners a chance." - shockchalk

shock: where did I say one negative thing? I mean, come on, can't you FEEL THE EXCITEMENT building here in Ola...err, Lawrence?

shockchalk 7 years, 8 months ago

Drewdun, It looked to me like every sentence you wrote was negative and dripping in sarcasm about Olathe, McMansion, endless subdivisions, etc......but once again I'm sure that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong. It looks like I owe you an apology, I'm sorry.

shockchalk 7 years, 8 months ago

I'm not sure about that, but then again, I never stated that in my post.................

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

log boy call kirk he is depressed he will doom and gloom with you

camper 7 years, 8 months ago

Is Olathe almost as big as Chicago? It sounds like its a pretty big place.

Staci Dark Simpson 7 years, 8 months ago

But Olathe has better jobs, Garmin for instance. Olathe has more choices for shopping, eating and movies. Oh wait I forgot more choices is bad. Silly me!

blondie77 7 years, 8 months ago

I love that Schauner used a printing company in KANSAS CITY to print his postcards. Nice job buying local! I think that poor decision is an example of why he should NOT represent Lawrence. I am glad the citizens of Lawrence saw him for what he was and did not re-elect him.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

logboy will never tell you a thing get it from your boy kirk and boogy

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, but I bet you he can answer your development questions faster than anyone else in Lawrence. Try him, give him a call.

drewdun 7 years, 8 months ago

"But Olathe has better jobs, Garmin for instance. Olathe has more choices for shopping, eating and movies. Oh wait I forgot more choices is bad. Silly me!" - spacystaci

"Silly me!"

At least you can admit it. That's really the first step towards recovery.

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

If you remember King Radio also had a plant here(Bendix,AlliedSignal,then Honeywell). Sure kept them you did.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

BOOGS ROLLEN WITH THE BOYS AND HE CAN ROLL logboy

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

I did not realize how little you actually know about Honeywell----nice stretch though. Let me tell you as I have a several friends and family who work for them Many of them worked in the same building at 2820 Haskell Ave,Lawrence. At the biggest laugh they have is that their resumes have 5 companies listed on it at the same address. Figure it out.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

bla bla bla bla bla bla logboy shut up and run for office

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

Then you have a short memory.

The closing will put a dent in local tax revenues, though. The company's 76,000-square-foot building is appraised at $2.5 million by the county. Its $5.2 million in equipment generated nearly $140,000 in personal property taxes last year, according to county records.

This is one the city should have tried harder to keep, because they would probably have stayed because their workforce (most)lived here.

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

Lawrence isn't duplicating anything, they lost what revenue they had with businesses leaving like flies. But you make that up with your property taxes if you want, I just prefer that citizens in Lawrence don't find the increase in theirs.

Treehouse7 7 years, 8 months ago

I think Dever was the best candidate - now let's move on!

Mike Blur 7 years, 8 months ago

I skimmed through every post on this board, and I am amazed that no-one on either the right or left has brought up the fact that yes, the new $30-million library project has been given the green light by the voters of Lawrence.

Mike Amyx has been cooling his heels on this issue since the initial backlash--but now there is a clear 4-1 majority in favor to the Fritzel proposal, it's full steam ahead.

Look for it to crop up again on the commission agenda before the month is out. This is a grand day in the history of Fritzel Construction. As of today, Fritzel Construction essentially owns (pwns?) the property at the library's current site.

Now that it's a done deal, we better make sure Lawrence gets a top-notch library out of the deal. No cutting corners, no scaling back of the library plans in favor of the Fritzel Tower condo--and for god's sake, if this election was about JOBS, then by golly, REAL Lawrencians should be on the construction team, not Mexican-Lawrencians!

beatrice 7 years, 8 months ago

The first Wal-Mart store opened in Arkansas more than 40 years ago. What exactly have they done for Arkansas over that time period? You must ask, when you think of economic stability, do you think -- Arkansas?

If anybody thinks a Wal-Mart at 6th and Wak is going to be a stimulus for great economic growth for Lawrence, my bet is you will be sorely disappointed.

I just hope the newly elected don't do anything to screw up Dada month. That was some of the best free publicity the town has ever received.

Mkh 7 years, 8 months ago

Speaking of JOBS...

I hear FIRST MANAGEMENT is hiring now. Congrats to the Developers, the City is your's once again. Now, who wants to pay way too much for MY house?

Mkh 7 years, 8 months ago

Wow, Marion had the nerve to play the "Race Card". HA!

Mike Blur 7 years, 8 months ago

Marion, I think your sarcasm meter needs a tune up.

AS a member of an ethnic minority who has been accused of being Mexican, I must say I'm not surprised to bear the brunt of your frothing, irrational rant.

See you (and raise you) at my casino this weekend, 'k?

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

log: you are so full of it. I know it , those who work for Honeywell know it. The Lawrence facility not only made avionics for the CESSNA plant in KC they all so made all the commerical AND military avionics. So I know if you worked there it had to have been before 1999, cause times changed or you would know something---AND YOU DON't. AT the high end of employment they had over 500+ NEVER the 700 you claim. Who followed Bossidy later, after 1999, and the next guy after that? Where is portions of the company that wanted to stay here. I have one family member who was an engineer there,but I'll wait for you to stumble as you seem to enjoy it.

KsTwister 7 years, 8 months ago

...............crickets again. Goodnight

News_to_me 7 years, 8 months ago

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Downtown has nothing to offer Lawrence any more. 6th and Wakarusa becomes the new center. We should be so proud.

drewdun 7 years, 8 months ago

I don't give a s*** what the new nuts replacing the old nuts do on the commission. Only one thing matters to me - attracting a Taco Tico to Lawrence. Popeye's and Church's chicken are close seconds, but nothing beats a delicious sancho from Tico.

BTW, Marion you are so full of s*** its dripping out of your mouth. Might want to wipe it off, pal.

drewdun 7 years, 8 months ago

$75 MILLION TAX-ABATEMENT TO ATTRACT TACO TICO TO LAWRENCE. NO PRICE IS TOO HIGH!

Must. Resist. Urge. To. Drive. To. Topeka. To. Get. Delicious. Taco. Burger. With. Volcano. Sauce.

gccs14r 7 years, 8 months ago

If Chestnut is serious about bringing jobs to Lawrence, he should first get Allen Press to quit outsourcing to China.

Porter 7 years, 8 months ago

Oh man, drewdun, I'm with you. I haven't had Taco Tico in years!! I'm so hungry for a taco burger right now.

Wait a second, maybe we should just build one! No need to worry about zoning and permits anymore, right??!? Mmmmmm, tacos....

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

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