Archive for Wednesday, September 6, 2006

Street strategies

September 6, 2006


To the editor:

You recently published an article about 23rd Street and an online poll about how to make it safer. But in the poll you left out a couple of possibilities and the article didn't address them either.

The first way would be to take land along the existing road and make a frontage road with limited access points along 23rd with stop lights. I know for some businesses this would create a problem, but it would solve the issue. The other solution would be to ban anyone under the age of 25 and especially students of Kansas University from driving on that road. Since these are the age groups and people creating over 90 percent of the problem, eliminate them and the problem goes away.

David McGuire,



brian87 9 years, 5 months ago

Other off-the-wall and completely impossible ideas: Build huge parking garages and force people to walk to their business of choice Declare 23rd Street a disaster area and try to get FEMA assistance. The new 23rd Street should be open in about 2025. Rename the street a la Bob Billings Parkway then no one will be able to find it Move KU to McLouth then those pesky college students won't be driving on 23rd Build a gigantic roundabout at 23rd & Iowa. It'll be so big that people will get lost in it. Three words: Wal-Mart fixes everything.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 5 months ago

Lawrence officials have spoken a few times about buying out commerical operations along 23rd which I believe is ludicrous. Too damn expensive. Relocation costs of those operations would be killer. Suppose a successful business died in a new location...what then?

When KU is on break we are relieved for a short while and 23rd becomes a piece of cake. It's part of being in Lawrence... not a big deal.

crono 9 years, 5 months ago

As one whose job is to work closely with college students, I would like to point out what a blatant statement of discrimination this LTE is.

If the statement had been made about any other people group---a minority, a specific religious group, the elderly, people who commute to KC, etc.---it would be considered intolerable bigotry, and I doubt ever would have appeared in the LJW.

prioress 9 years, 5 months ago

BLLSHT in its purest form. People who toss around arbitrary age discrimination should be careful. For example, why don't we permanently ban anyone over 60 from driving a car? It's the same logic..........

mom_of_three 9 years, 5 months ago

Nothing better in the mailbag, huh, LJW?

Jamesaust 9 years, 5 months ago

"The other solution would be to ban anyone under the age of 25 and especially students of Kansas University from driving on that road."

Pray tell - what exactly would be the legal theory by which Lawrence (Kansas, ?) would discriminate among its citizens?

Perhaps the same one that would say that all "McGuires" shall provide roads for the public at their own expense? Yeah, I'll go for that one. That would "solve the problem," would it not?

[To the Editor: if you don't have a letter worthy of print, nothing says you have to print anything that day.]

fletch 9 years, 5 months ago

It's nice to see that crackpots occassionally manage to send in a physical letter.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 5 months ago

"The other solution would be to ban anyone under the age of 25 and especially students of Kansas University from driving on that road."

I agree, it is a pretty stupid suggestion, but there is some kernel of truth in it-- a huge percentage of the traffic on 23rd is due to its function as a main arterial feeding the KU campus, which is why the completion of the SLT will have little effect on the traffic there.

mom_of_three 9 years, 5 months ago

Just had a thought - if you ban under 25 drivers, how are all the high school and college employees supposed to arrive at their fast food, and Wal-Mart/Target/Pine Ridge Plaza jobs??

OfficeGirl 9 years, 5 months ago

Shop in Topeka or KC or OP during times when KU students are here. We shop elsewhere during the school year as driving is so bad with way too many people not knowing where they are going, etc. It makes me crazy so I just go to a different town. Problem solved. Lawrence totally caters to KU and that will never change. Anything that will inconvenience KU students will not happen. Trying to shop on weekends in this town when KU is in session is a joke unless you can get up predawn and get back out of town before 9 or so. I really don't know what the answer is to the problem. It really doesn't look like there is room to widen the street any more or add any kind of access roads.

blessed3x 9 years, 5 months ago

It's nice to see that it isn't just the commissioners that answer every problem with a restriction of freedoms. It warms my heart to see the general citizenry getting in on the act. I predict that it won't be much longer before citizens of Lawrence must show the proper papers/identification and apply for a permit to drive across town.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 5 months ago

KDOT makes primary decisions for 23rd street for they will need to participate financially.

giantchurro 9 years, 4 months ago

Brain87, I couldnt have said it better, WE NEED A GIANT ROUNDABOUT!! Im telling you thats the cure! OOOOH, Ill bring a lawn chair and a cooler when it opens, it will be exciting.

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