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Investigators seek ‘useful’ source after homicide
Sheriff’s office continues search for car, acquaintance
October 18, 2006
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The death of a hip-hop artist found Sunday in a field in rural Douglas County has been ruled a homicide, and investigators Tuesday asked for the public's help in finding a Lawrence man who's wanted for questioning.
The Douglas County Sheriff's Office said Tuesday it was looking for Major C. Edwards Jr., 27, and that he may have information about what happened to Anthony J. Vital, 28. But the sheriff's office was not labeling Edwards as a suspect.
"It is believed that Mr. Edwards may have information useful to this investigation," Lt. Kari Wempe, a sheriff's spokeswoman, said in a statement.
Vital, a member of the local hip-hop group "Da BombSquad" who went by the stage name "Clacc," was found around 9 a.m. Sunday by a man who was leaving his property along U.S. Highway 40 about two miles west of Lawrence. The sheriff's office initially said it was a "suspicious death" and confirmed Tuesday that it was a homicide.
The sheriff's office has not released details of the case, including how Vital died or what investigators think he was doing the previous night. Another unanswered question is whether Vital died where his body was found or was transported there.
Friends and family members of Vital have said they don't know what happened to him. Richard Thomas, a member of Vital's hip-hop group, said he'd been told that Edwards and Vital went out together Saturday night.
"They were associates at the most. : I really don't know (Edwards) much," Thomas said.
According to court records, Edwards listed his occupation in late 2005 as being in the music business - both writing and recording.
"That was the small talk (from Edwards) - 'Yeah, I'm in the studio, I'm gonna start me a record label' - but everybody in the country is saying that," Thomas said.
Edwards, who has a conviction for sale of cocaine, is well-known in local law enforcement circles. In 2005, he was found not guilty at trial of aggravated burglary, kidnapping, intimidation of a witness and battery.
He has three separate battery cases pending in District Court.
The sheriff's office Tuesday again asked for the public's help with information about a 1988 maroon Ford Thunderbird that may be associated with Vital's death. The vehicle has the personalized license plate "JVOLA."
But the sheriff so far has not gone into detail about the significance of the vehicle or announced publicly who the registered owner is.
Anyone with information about the vehicle or about Edwards' whereabouts is asked to call the sheriff at 841-0007 or the CrimeStoppers hot line at 843-TIPS.
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18 October 2006
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
If anyone is interested…there is a lot more information available on these links…
www.kctv5.com
www.kansascitychannel.com/org
18 October 2006
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srj (Anonymous) says…
How do you you still get to be out on the streets with three different battery cases pending?
18 October 2006
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christie (Anonymous) says…
Another crap-singing ( i meant to say rap ) wanna-be with assault charges against him. Tsk-Tsk Ho-Hum what do you expect. These people seem to run around in circles of violence. They adore it. They sing it. They love it. They live by it, and they die by it.
Sounds to me like I'm glad he's gone.
18 October 2006
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
oh christie that is so sterotypical and so uncompassionate. In fact it almost did not even deserve a response. Although I am not into the rap thing. I knew this man and trust me when I tell you that he was not into violence. We all make mistakes in or lives and I am sure you are included. We all deserve another chance to make the best of our lives and no one deserves to be taken by the hands of another person. He was young and you never know what good he could have brought to this world. I wish you the best and know that you probably opened yourself up to some pretty hateful responses.
18 October 2006
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kbreybrown (Anonymous) says…
Christie,
Your comment was extremely racist and rude. If you can't say something positive keep your mouth shut. You should NEVER talk about anothers love one like that regardless what they done or who they hung around with. Maybe you should consider looking at your own self in the mirror. People like you make me sick! That goes too show you that you have a very little mind if one at all.
18 October 2006
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cutny (Anonymous) says…
Well Marion, not that I don't believe you, but a bit of proof to back up your latest volley is in order I think. C'mon man…you're the King of Links. Let's have some.
18 October 2006
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
Well said cutny
18 October 2006
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onetwothree (Anonymous) says…
They have not even began to touch on this mans criminal background, Douglas and Leavenworth counties should be ashamed that this man was even on the streets. An innocent man has died because of it.
18 October 2006
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
onetwothree you could not be more right… they have not idea the criminal background this guy has
18 October 2006
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countrygirl (Anonymous) says…
What has me confused is, if Anthony was such an upstanding guy (and I'm not saying that he wasn't)—what's he doing connected with the scum bag that they're looking for? Something just doesn't make sense.
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
Major just needs to come forward and tell the police what really happen. He needs to stop running!
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
Well I am sure Major will not stop hiding or turn himself over not his style.
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
mommaeffortx2, Major has a HUGE family here in lawrence, hopefully they will talk with him. I am praying for both families that are involved!
18 October 2006
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
Liberal Judges is why he is on the street. Nothing more nothing less.
18 October 2006
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roger_o_thornhill (Anonymous) says…
I can't believe none of you pulled out any plays on this guy's name. The cleverness and venom in this place could have surely come up with something good in 17 posts. Where does the name Major come from anyways? Is it Norweigan?
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
texasgrl I know but can not say that I see him turning himself in, just not him.
Now the reson that he is not in jail now on these pending cases is called bail and most people do get bail when arrested. you call the bonds man then put up the money and there you go.
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
mommaeffortx2: you are right, but man… i guess i am just wishful thinking!
18 October 2006
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00jester (Anonymous) says…
Tisk tisk christie, i hope someone in your family dies so i can make blanket observations about them and applaud their passing.
18 October 2006
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christie (Anonymous) says…
Nobody in my family has had :
a conviction for sale of cocaine, nor have they been tried for aggravated burglary, kidnapping, intimidation of a witness and battery. Nobody in my family has three separate battery cases pending in District Court.
I'm 59 years old, and I have NEVER committed a felony in my life. Hey come to think of it, it's not that difficult.
I wasn't making blanket observations - these are facts.
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
well you know him so… we can always hope but history does not support the wish.
18 October 2006
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dozer (Anonymous) says…
Consumer 1 - It is called bail, not liberal judges.
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
You were no taking of facts when you sent your first post ” sounds to me like I'm glad he is gone ” …To be grateful that someone has passed and not even know them is unbelieveable. Your best bet is not to respond to this posting. 59 years of age and yet you have learned simple things that you are taught as a child… things like being kind, compassionate. hmmmmmm how did you grow up Mrs Perfect?
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nyse79 (Anonymous) says…
christie, by the comments that you made, i would have never guessed that you were 59 years old. how could you ever say that you are glad that someone is gone. you didn't even know him. it doesn't matter what he did or didn't do in his life, no one deserves to have their life taken away from them, not even you.
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
wow Christie, i hope those words you just wrote will not come back to bite you in your butt! Be very careful what you say!!
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
christie I think the problem is that he was found not guilty of the charges and the others are pending but you just made the jump to guilty. And Vital was not the person with the charges stated in the article so most people would consider the last line in your post very insenstive and cold not to mention just plain wrong.
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AKM1982 (Anonymous) says…
Christie you wrote “Sounds to me like I'm glad he's gone” But you are talking about convictions of the man they are looking for and not Anthony. Anthony the man who died did not have such convictions and even so why would you wish anyone dead???!!!! Who cares if you are an old woman or not. So if you family member had a conviction or mad a mistake you would not stand by them and try and help them. You would just say sorry bout' your luck and keep on trucking. Glad you are not apart of my family. I as well as my family have a clean record but if someone screwed up I would be the first one to help out.
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betti81 (Anonymous) says…
christie- your list of offenses refer to the “person of interest” the police want to speak with, not the victim. you might want to re-think your comment with this knowledge.
18 October 2006
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
Christie - It is obvious by the inflammatory tone of your remarks, you were trying to get a rise out of the posters on this thread.
Nice work. I read in awe how these folks are puddy in your hands. P-P-Puddy, P-P-Puddy, Puddy in your hands………
18 October 2006
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roger_o_thornhill (Anonymous) says…
Oh, come on folks! OK I'll start. This guy sounds like a 'Major' troublemaker. See, its easy and fun for the whole family.
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
Bone777 you are right! it is like she is sitting back and getting a HIGH off the things she is saying! but even if she is getting a rise out of us, she still needs to be careful what she says!
18 October 2006
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dacs23 (Anonymous) says…
kbreybrown
“Christie,
Your comment was extremely racist and rude”
Just a technical point but Christie never mentioned race. Sounds to me like you're the one feeding the stereotype. As for rude, perhaps… just like those who thump their music windows down without concern or respect of those around them even when asked to turn it down. Kind of like the continuous flow of negative comments. As for the notion no one deserves to die. I'll throw out another stereotype. Hippies. Long live the great state of Texas.
18 October 2006
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dacs23 (Anonymous) says…
nana
“Christie, you are a dumb b**** that needs her tail whooped.”
Now, Now look where violence will get you. Irony
18 October 2006
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ModSquadGal (Anonymous) says…
I am very sorry for the death of this man, and sad for his family and friends. I hear a lot of posters saying he was a “good” man and not into violence, and that he was trying to be a positive role model, etc. I'm not saying that just because he was a rapper, he was a criminal, but if you hang in a dangerous crowd, you will live a dangerous life. Sure, he made some mistakes, but we ALL do. I wish he would have chosen a different way to be a positive role model, like getting out of the stereotypical rap scene and showing young people that that is not the only way to live.
It is very sad that he ended up dying because of the life he chose. I hope it does serve to show young people that even if you are well intentioned, that particular way of life is often just a dead end.
I do hope his family and friends find peace and justice as well.
18 October 2006
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
Very well put ModSquadGal
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
nana should be careful what she posts. It could take time but the adress she is typing from can be found out and some of what she posted would be cosidered a threat.
Nana stop trying to pait Major as a saint some people know better, may not be a bad guy but he is no saint.
18 October 2006
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Sigmund (Anonymous) says…
Christie doesn't realized that only stereotypes of whites are allowed on this thread. Once she realizes this I am quite sure her posts will be more politically correct. Did I read right that both Mr. Clacc and Mr. Edwards have been arrested and/or convicted of serious felonies? Now Mr. Edwards is a “person of interest” in Mr. Clacc's homicide? I am shocked, shocked I tell you! Round up the usual suspects!
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
Mr_Ramirez - I have read your post in the past, and you have made many lame attempts at the same type of imflammatory comments and name calling, in an attempt to get a rise out of people.
Take a page out of Christie's book and people will be puddy in your hands. P-P-Puddy, P-P-Puddy, Puddy in your hands………
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
Well with all this said!! i just hope no one else will get hurt!
18 October 2006
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dacs23 (Anonymous) says…
Nana
not to pick on you but then again you made it easy. Why should we trust that these guys were non violent when you make such violent statements. Seems to me your judgment is a little warped and perhaps you are not the best person to evaluate a persons merit. Your own words killed your point. so what exactly were you saying again?
18 October 2006
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
From the content of this thread, it appears the family and friends took my advice and created a private site. As the truth WILL come out. And those wearing the rose colored glasses probably won't be too happy with the forthcoming comments.
18 October 2006
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
P-P-Puddy, P-P-Puddy, Puddy in your hands………
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
name calling in so childish.
18 October 2006
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
*shaking my head*
18 October 2006
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
This was much easier that I thought it would be.
P-P-Puddy, P-P-Puddy, Puddy in MY hands………
18 October 2006
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
It's “putty.” The word is “putty.” P-U-T-T-Y! http://dictionary.reference.com/brows…
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
get it right 1681 and name calling is still childish.
18 October 2006
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
TheEleventhStephanie - I am using my poetic license in my rap song. Putty, does not roll like puddy. Kind of like DaBombSquad sound more urban than The Bomb Squad, but thanks anyway.
18 October 2006
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Christie spoke the truth in that first comment. She never once mentioned RACE. She talked about the rap culture.
What do they rap about, apart from pimps, ho's, killing cops, etc?
Do they rap about love, honor, responsibility, sunflowers?
I'm sick of the politically correct nonsense. Call it like it is. I hate (c)rap too …
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
If he was such a “good man” then why was he killed???
18 October 2006
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AKM1982 (Anonymous) says…
Why was that poor family slain, why are women raped then murdered, why is a good question. Why does anyone get killed no one asks to die. Good people die all the time it is a tragedy. Don't ask such stupid questions Centrist!
18 October 2006
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
There is obviously a few people that need to be ignored. Responding to their comments is like food for their corrupt minds.
18 October 2006
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
Threats don't help anyone at this point. Let's set the record straight…
Clacc has only had minor scrapes with the law, nothing violent, and nothing within the past several years…
He WAS positive for troubled youths…you say he should do something else?? What if this was all he knows, and a way to reach out to other kids in his same situations? What kind of troubled youth listens to gospel, or light music? And him changing to rock & roll…well, that just wouldn't work at all for him.
Clacc DIDN'T run in violent circles…that's what we are trying to say…he didn't frequent clubs, or hang out…he spent the majority of his time in the studio and worked hard for what he wanted…a peaceful life.
As for Major…I knew him for several years…he never disrespected anyone, or lost his temper unless pushed to do so…as far as I've seen. Yes, we should give him the benefit of the doubt. However, his legal background is not favorable and I'm sure the police are looking under every rock and in every corner for him to solve this case. Hopefully, this is all a big misunderstanding and will be cleared up. (trying to bring positiveness into the chaos)
In case anyone is interested…I drove in from KC today, Hastings only has 7 “I Got Work” CDs left. I bought one to show support for the group and family. It's really a good CD.
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AKM1982 (Anonymous) says…
Your right doesitmatter. I have a hard time not responding. If you look at my post I do not have many 1 from one other article and the rest from this one. It is obvious this is a very sore subject for me. Where are peoples hearts anymore?
18 October 2006
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carolannfugate (Anonymous) says…
Plenty of good people are killed every day. I suspect if the victim were to be guilty of anything it was poor Judgement on who to trust. Maya Angelou says “When someone shows you who they are believe them the first time”, but human nature tells us to allow people room for error therefore we faulter in our belief that there is good in the worst of people.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Motivation …
Why can't a rapper become a rock'n'roller? Oh wait .. that would be a stereotype. Rappers can never do anything different with their lives. Complete rubbish.
Drive-thru attendants become movie starts. Opera singers fron heavy metal bands. Janitors become sporting heroes. Grocery clerks become quarterbacks.
Gimme a break.
Total nonsense.
It's like saying that people in the hood have nowhere to go. In a lot of cases all it takes is a 10 minute drive to a totally new life. It's more about wanting to change, or do something different, and not being so “provincial”.
Forget the political crap, people and step outside your own stereotyped nonsense.
Again, I ask … if this guy was so 'clean' and such a 'good' guy, then a) why was he in a group with known felons and b) why would someone want him DEAD?
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
Major and Clacc were seen together Saturday evening. This does not mean they were together all night!! I don't blame Major for leaving. He's probably worried about being a “person of interest.” LPD, County, and Fed are all known for plays on words to get someone to come in and talk.
However, he should come in and put this to rest. It's not like he's concerned about the time. He can't run forever, they will find him…even in his “home” state. (those that know him know what I'm saying)
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
If you know where he went, you need to call the cops!
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
motivation careful just reading your words makes you a person of intrest now. And yes i do know what your saying and you should say it really soft.
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
Centrist;
No one said “someone wanted him DEAD”
You are correct that someone can change their life. But this was the path that Clacc chose. He didn't socialize with felons. No one knows why he was in the vehicle with Major at that point. It's possible they were on their way to the studio.
Think about what you are saying before you say it. As many have said, you didn't know him. Don't judge or question what people say when they did know the surroundings.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Wasn't their studio in North Lawrence? And would his home state possibly be “Illinois”?
18 October 2006
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
couranna1 why turn this to religion?
Did you know either man involved in this article?
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Motivation …
It has been RULED a homicide. That means someone wanted him dead.
And yes, he socialized with felons in the GROUP.
I know I should not judge, you're right.
But this looks like a typical rap-results-in-murder situation. All I'm saying is that we're all so quick to extol the virtues of someone after they die, however the circumstances. Let's assume nothing then … including whether or not the Vic was a good guy.
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
mommaeffortx2
Believe me…I'm not interesting at all…and I'm not quite sure what should be said softly??
I have love for both young men. Major never bothered me and I was sure to return the respect when around him. This whole situation tears me up…I can't believe with all that's happened in Ltown lately. And I'm a long-time local…Can we all PLEASE stop this craziness? That's all I ask. Da Bomb Squad was on it's way to actually making it happen, now this?? I feel the entire USA has experienced a loss that they will never understand. Clacc's lyrics were honest and positive, his voice awesome!! I would love to know that Clacc and Major's families are able to move past this. I know everyone is hurting right now.
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
Centrist : they talk about everything.. even LOVE.. heck ll cool j did! :o)
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
define GROUP.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
soft means not on here, everyone will just link you to this death and majors leaving or not. I do not know if he is gone. Yes all families involved are suffering and the group will suffer but I believe they will come back they will not let this stop them and maybe push even harder because of this.
I disagree you do sound interesting.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
By GROUP, I oBvIoUsLy meant Da Bomb Squad
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armywife (Anonymous) says…
I can't believe some of the disrespect that's coming from some of you. Clacc is dead another man is possibly running, maybe confused or perhaps scared because of his prior conviction. Don't hang the man until you know all the facts. We weren't there, so how could any one of us be the the judge and jury!!! Maybe Clacc was trying to help Major out by being a positive role model and not judging him on his prior life. People make mistakes all the time. My brother was best friends with a guy that sold cocain and went to Lansing for it, was he a dealer no, was he out doing cocain no. He was trying to help a friend out that was and did obviously go down the wrong path. My brother is dead now but as a vow to his memory that friend has been clean for 3 yrs. So just because you have a good heart and want to think the best of everyone that makes you bad? I think not, show some respect for the families on both sides, the last thing they need is people judging them and their loved ones. I don't know either parties but I wish them both the best and hope they find out the truth.
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snakiller (Anonymous) says…
Marion:
I am still waiting for your rebuttal on the “deeply involved in dog fighting” comment…where do you get this information?
thanks.
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
Ahhhhhh Kansas, the intellectual elite. Where everyone else knows what is best for everyone else.
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hawksdomain (Anonymous) says…
Well checking on things a bit later than usual today…
Christie, I most certainly regret your name first of all (perhaps once 'everything' comes out you will understand that comment), second of all, I hope soon I am able to say “oh good another one gone” about you or your family
For everyone else - Please continue to pray for all of Anthony's family and friends. This is the most difficult time most of them have ever faced.
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Katara (Anonymous) says…
Posted by TheEleventhStephanie (anonymous) on October 18, 2006 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's “putty.” The word is “putty.” P-U-T-T-Y! http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/p…
thank you!!! i was beginning to think I was the only one annoyed by that.
Puddy refers to something entirely different - think being in your hands.
I'm glad that friends and family have created a site to share memories of Mr. Vital. It will be good for them to do so and hopefully help the healing begin.
I'm very much of the opinion that this is not the place to go if you are in mourning of a person mentioned in an article. People are going to discuss the wheres, whys & hows of the situation as with anything.
It never helps the ones left behind to read this stuff. It never will.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Steph and Katara….one word….Ebonics! I would venture to quess the dictionary has not been updated to all the slang and spelling differences.
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
armywife;
Thank you, that is what I was trying to say. I don't assume guilt on either side and perhaps that is exactly what Clacc was doing with Major. I truly hope you are correct and hope he (Major) will find his way.
mommaeffortx2;
Trust me. I've moved away and am not even remotely linked to Ltown any longer. Therefore, I'm the furthest from interesting there is. I spent a lot of my life in Ltown and this is not how any of my “peeps” were taught to live.
My Master's Degree will be done soon and I hope to start speaking in public forums to motivate people of all generations to think “outside the realm of possibility” and to “give greater hopes to all youth.” My heart hurts for all families involved and I hope this ends with positive conclusions.
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gs (Anonymous) says…
I just wanted to say how sorry I am for the families loss. I lost my folks in January in a car accident. It is tough when you lose someone suddenly.
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
Does anyone have the link to the site for Clacc?
I will search the web…However, it will not be posted on this site due to the ignorance already shown.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
well now that does not sound boring or unintersting to me sounds like alot of hard work. Goodluck with the carrer path. I guess some people are smarter than us Ltown residents that just won't get out but it is home. I really do hope major will be alright.
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hockmano (Anonymous) says…
Just because the guy might have used bad judgement about who he was associating with doesn't mean he was a bad guy.You can really trust no one but yourself and God.My condolences to the family. Christie, the remarks you made were ignorant and I wish people like you would get an education and get out of the trailer park. Lawrence is really starting to go to he**! I have lived here for ten years and I am ready to move!Everyone needs to quit blaming others(people from Topeka) and address the problems we have right here in our own backyard!Also, I get so sick of everyone blaming the victim on this comment board! Oh, but then again, anyone that doesn't listen to rap is so purrrrffect!
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
well I guess I should go back to school spelling worse than normal today sorry all.
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Sigmund (Anonymous) says…
We weren't there so we can't judge? If that was the case we could have no trials unless a judge and a jury were present during the crime. A guy sold cocaine to help a friend but he wasn't a dealer or a user? Come on get real.
A convicted felon of home invasion associated with Lock N Load records, a rapper with Da BombSquad is seen with another felon who was accused of intimidating a witness, among other Major violent felonies, the night before he ends up dead in a field and who now can't be found. You'll have to forgive “whitey and the man” from reaching some preliminary hypothesis about who and why.
All that said, I am willing to change my opinion based upon new evidence to the contrary. Calling everyone ignorant and racist who wouldn't be suprised if the one of Clacc's Major “friends” with a criminal record ends up being the killer is not evidence nor convincing.
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mssking1 (Anonymous) says…
christie—it was not the victim convicted of those crimes but the person the police are looking for–you are a heartless b–-and should just sing off now
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
Lo siento, pero no hablo Ebonics. I do, however, suggest a vote to make it the official language.
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
“Press 1 for English, Para español oprima numero 2, and to git at Ebonics yo, press dat 3, biotch!!”
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Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Posted By Christie on September 26 at 8:14 a.m.
“I don't get it. Why is it officers are trained to shoot to kill. A leg shot or a lower torso shot would have brought this woman to her senses and perhaps she would have received the help she was needing.”
So, what Christie's saying is that a white woman who is trying to kill innocent people should be saved. However, a black rapper who is being peaceful should be shot. Christie, I sure hope you aren't teaching your racism to your grandkids.
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hRaOrCd (Anonymous) says…
Hey christi and centrist!!!!!!!!!! Here are some things that I would love to say to your faces personally but this will do I guess. Here are some facts that you should know. The felonies that he was involved in were made by a young Anthony that just moved here to Lawrence and had no real friends yet. It was a stupid thing that happened. The guy did something to him first so he felt that no one would respect him if he didn't do something back. If you noticed so much then why didn't they give any one of those 4 people involved in that invasion any prison time and just probation for short time? Since then they reconciled…..Anthony and the victim. The cocain charges??? Personnal problems? Nobody is perfect but it sounds like you 2 would be the type to cast the first stones if you get my drift. All the info you got is just on paper…you know nothing really about this man!!!!
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Wow…steph….along with being proficient in spanish and ebonics, you have “poddy” mouth down quite well, too. Have a nice day….and don't forget to wash!
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dacs23 (Anonymous) says…
I wouldn't say judging so much as deductive reasoning based on available information and normative data.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Confrontation … you are assuming that the Vic was “being peaceful”.
Were you there???
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
hRaOrCd … When I first moved here, I did nothing “stupid”.
Quit making excuses for people who commit crimes.
“” The guy did something to him first so he felt that no one would respect him if he didn't do something back ”“
Respect from whom? Are we talking about Street Cred here??
Oh and …. “imperfect” does not equal “ok to deal drugs”. I know lots of people who 'arent perfect' but again, they don't commit crimes.
All you apologists need to reconsider your realities. And yes, people from out of town can be blamed for the violence. Why? Because they are the perpetrators!
Why not make a judgment based on what you see and hear, instead of being so (blindly) politically correct.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Oh Centrist….It's so much easier to blame someone else than accept responsibility for ones own choices!
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
EleventhStephanie & Katara - just for you two, I have changed my rap to:
Any p-p-p-erson, any p-p-person, any person or thing easily molded, influenced, etc.
It's title will remain 'Puddy in my Hands'
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
That's what I'm saying exactly!! :)
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
Centrist and ForThePeople;
You both obviously hold yourselves superior to anyone else on this blog. You would think you would have more pertinent comments for the “political articles.” Could we all argue so fuetile?
Neither of you understand or care about the lifestyle or generation disturbed by your comments. We all could be so lucky to be born into the surroundings you both lived in. Please, get lost in the pages of this site. All you want to do is bash and disturb. How can that EVER lead to anything positive?
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
My “poddy mouth” beats the slander that some people are spewing here.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Motivation …. you have no clue as to how I was raised and in what circumstances, nor my age, nor my knowledge level of the “generation”. For all you know, I could be a 19 yo black man, or a 55 year old white woman.
Who's making assumptions then?
As a matter of fact I grew up rough, in a house full or violence, drugs and alcohol. But I got over it. I moved a long, long way from home, further than most. I have a job and I ask for no help, while supporting my family on a very modest income. I do not hold myself superior to anyone, nor do I “bash and disturb”.
What I DO know is that there is too much crime in Lawrence, which was once a “peaceful” town.
What I DO know is that the “lifestyle” produces negative results OFTEN. I want my kid to have no part of it, ever.
What I DO know is that I am entitled to my opinion, as you are yours.
Peace to you.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Excuse me, but I grew up on the streets and have worked very hard to pull myself out of that lifestyle, so YOU have no idea WHAT your talking about!
You can choose to remain in those surroundings or move on. From what you've said, the young man who was murdered supposedly was attempting to do just that! Part of moving out of that lifestyle though is distancing yourself from destructive people and that is where many people fail.
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don_burgess (Anonymous) says…
Woa, woa, woa, hold on there guys. Everybody relax. Lets take it easy, here.
I've noticed alot of angry comments related to this story. Alot of name calling. . .
I would like to see some hand-shakes and some apologies all around.
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Aiko (Anonymous) says…
How did this become a racial crime? I thought that all involved at this point are persons of color? Maybe I missed something and if so I apologize…
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
Well Said Motivation
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00jester (Anonymous) says…
Centrist is obviously caught up in his own steretypes… Let me try one out. Are you middle aged, white, middle to upper middle class?
Rap music does talk about all those things you described, aside from sunflowers that i know of, but you wouldn't know it beacuse you probably watch Fox news and let the media dictate what everything is and should be.
Why don't you research what your going to say before you look like an idiot. Or not, beacuse i'm assuming idiocy is part if your life.
It's been said, but worth repeating, you don't know either of the people. The victum was a nice guy. Your mistakes don't have to define who you are, but if your to judgemental to look past the past, i hope your life is only judged on wrong doings and nothing else.
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
Motivation to Centris and ForThePeople -
“Neither of you understand or care about the lifestyle or generation disturbed by your comments. All you want to do is bash and disturb.”
Sounds to me like all they, and people like them - - say, Sigmund - - want to do is have people think more logically .. be more rational .. explore reason to question the reality of the situation and circumstances surrounding it, whatever it may or may not be.
If this is something someone - - say, like you - - feels threatened by, then perhaps these individuals should step back, take a breath, and re-evaluate the basis for their own school of thought before deeming the opinions of others “ignorant”, “racist” or “stupid”, amongst other not-so creative names.
I've found that, when I want to get my point across on some issue that I find important, its best to keep emotion and name calling out of the conversation.
I'm just sayin' .. .. ..
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Actually Jester, you're wrong on many counts, but whatever. Guessing can be fun.
It's because I DON'T let popular culture dictate to me, that I see through situations like this one.
All I'm saying (yet again) is that people should not assume that the Vic was a great guy. How about we assume nothing. Let's see it for what it is, so far. A murder that involves rappers. When the facts all come out, then you'll see. But until then, let's at least see what we can see. The “lifestyle” is t-r-o-u-b-l-e, period. Defend it all you like, but
Lawrence is becoming more like Kansas City every day .. you only have to see that it's becoming more ghetto. (And NO, that was NOT a racial comment!)
And how dare you call me a FOX news watcher! haha …
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
Posted by snakiller (anonymous) on October 18, 2006 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Marion:
I am still waiting for your rebuttal on the “deeply involved in dog fighting” comment…where do you get this information?
thanks.”
Marion writes:
I am in possesion of information which describes the core of the dog fighting group(s) in Lawrence and surrounding areas, which includes photographs of some of the kennels, names of participants, locations at which dogs are “stored”, locations at which dogs are grouped prior to fights, several of the locations at which fights are held and the names of several who collect ordinary dogs to be used in the “training” of fighting dogs.
Both the Humane Society and local law enforcement have much of the same information but are unwilling to go public, bing unable to catch them in the act, as it were.
I have no such fears and will soon put on the 'net all that I have but this thread is not the place for that.
Coming soon to website near you:
“Dogfighting: The Shame Of Lawrence, Kansas”.
Thanks.
Marion.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Thank you Marion….I too, was interested in your previous comment with regard to the dog fighting.
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
00jester - You sound “racist” and racisim is “idiocy”.
Now, having said that, I'm sure you're probably not a racist or an idiot. But saying it to another makes you sound as 'tho you are.
No fun, is it, being judged thru stereotyping?
I, unfortunately, hear more than my share of rap daily - - I'm clearly not a fan (to each their own) - - and NONE of what I've heard has been positive by any means of the word! I get the whole “sex, drugs, rnr” thing. I don't get the “pop a cap in the cops a** before beating my ho and banging her friend” thing.
I mean, if THAT'S what you consider love-themed lyrics then I'm scuuured! >:)
If my man called me a “b*tch”, told me to “shut up” in front of his posse, wrote a rap about how he abused me, called it “love”, then got rich off it .. I think I'd be a bit miffed.
Call it a pride thing.
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
Centrist -
You mean “another” Rapper murder *wry*
Happens a lot .. rap related homicide.
Weird.
I wonder what it is that ties the two together.
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Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Centrist:- I was simply showing that Christie is okay with a psychotic white woman (who appeared to have even more of a past with police officials) being saved, but a black rapper, whose reason for death is unknown, deserved to die. You say that we shouldn't assume Vic was a nice guy. At least we don't even have to try to make that ASSumption about you.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
So I'm an ASS now for having an opinion?
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
Again with the name calling *sigh*
Confrontation -
So Centrist is an “A**”, in your opinion, because he has the audacity to vocalize an opinion of his own?
What are you, a communist?!
>:)
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hilltop (Anonymous) says…
the good die young and the bad talk ugly. Knew Anthony through my son. Loved his music. Definately was a good person. Evil walks upon the earth and the man has his plan. When messages of truth are revealed, the man always wants to silence it. Remember, everyone gets their turn!
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Yes….it is typical of people on this forum to resort to name calling when they are frustrated with not being able to control the threads content.
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hawksdomain (Anonymous) says…
OK, I haven't read everything yet, but I so have to respond to this:
All you apologists need to reconsider your realities. And yes, people from out of town can be blamed for the violence. Why? Because they are the perpetrators!
Why not make a judgment based on what you see and hear, instead of being so (blindly) politically correct.
I would like to share that my reality is someone that I have known since birth and love as dearly as I love my sister has lost the man that she loves. My judgments on this entire situation have been made from the reality that I am living through right now. It is not something 'politically correct' or 'blind'. Nothing is more real than feelings that each and every person experiences. Nothing is more real than losing a loved one.
I could care less about political correctness. But reading what some of you are saying, and in public no less (even if you are anonymous) is so very disrespectful.
I can only hope that your, your children, your grandchildren, your siblings, anyone YOU care about never has to go through something so sad…. This man has died. He was left in a field, all alone. I prayed that it would all be some sort of accident so no more suffering would have to be endured, but unfortunately it was a murder.
Anthony could have been pink with purple polka-dots and liked to hum instrumentals for all I care. Regardless of what could ever happen to the best or worst of you, he never would have even thought a bad thought about it, and certainly would never have been so hateful in a forum where the victim's friends and family could see it.
Just because you are capable of reading and typing does not qualify you to sit in judgment of others.
After the past few days on this site, I have come to realize what that bumper sticker means… “Kansas as bigoted as you think”, I think it should read “Lawrence as bigoted as can be”. And yes, I'm still a white girl.
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prioress (Anonymous) says…
Just because you are capable of reading and typing does not qualify you to sit in judgment of others.
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My apologies to you for those who post hatefully or ignorantly. As the teacher said, “judge not, least ye be judged.” Peace to the young man and comfort to the loved ones he left behind.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Hawksdomain …. so being critical of rap culture is being bigoted?
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Aiko (Anonymous) says…
Marion, good job keeping up with the issue of dog fighting in Lawrence. The fact that there are people out there who get off on forcing and training dogs to fight is amazing to me. Any person who involves themselves with this type of cruel punishment to dogs (or any other animals) should suffer the same the animals did under their control. It pisses me off to no end that these people are around and certain people accept it. I blame their parents for not teaching them better. Idiots!
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00jester (Anonymous) says…
Don't panic, i made assumptions to prove my point. Not recieved i see.
And centrist, i knew, know both people, so i'm not guessing anything here…But it's all a lost point.
Everybody is going to have their opinions, and not be changed.
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
A few points to make .. .. ..
Point One: Name calling is just not productive .. under any circumstances .. yet especially in circumstances like these. Ugly words, cloaked threats, blind hatred is what I see here .. .. ..
and a good 80% or better of the individuals on this board have never ever freakin' met!!!
Point Two: I don't like rap nor approve of the lifestyle it invokes. I don't consider myself to be racist. I'm far from ignorant. I have been known to be judgmental .. yet I'm willing to step back, out of the box, in to a zone uncomfortable for me to be in, to take in the whole view and maybe .. just maybe .. change my opinion. To do that, I need to see change, better choices being made .. solid evidence. So far there has been none.
Point Three: My mama taught me to respect others rights, privileges and boundaries as much as they are willing to respect mine. Its a good lesson. Unfortunately its been lost in translation and/or forgotten altogether along the way.
And, Lastly: individualism has been trampled on for far too long. These days its almost a dirty word. Strangely enough, the ones doing most the trampling are the first to claim it as their own (there's proof of just that on this board!).
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00jester (Anonymous) says…
You know what i love is that the LJWorld dubbs in the head line “hip hop” artist, as though that, and that alone is the reason for his death. I think that should start putting that in the obituaries…
“Octogenarian found dead in lawrence home; age a suspect.”
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hawksdomain (Anonymous) says…
Critical of rap, a musical genre I don't particularly care for, no…. For a great deal of the comments made about the 'lifestyle' Anthony lived, F*** YES!
You have no idea what lifestyle he lived. Speak of rappers, if you wish… with so many others trying to share their experiences in this forum and so many of the 'evil speakers' saying how these things must not be true. After all, he was arrested 10 years ago. After all, he was a rapper. After all, he was black. After all, he was in a field.
YOU did not know his lifestyle. YOU do not want to know his lifestyle. I have tried for three days to get those with the most negative opinions to see that they do not know the whole story. I know I have tried in vain, but I did it for Anthony. And I will likely be back here tomorrow to try to get people like you to see that there was so much more to this man than him being 1-black, 2-a rapper, 3-formerly in trouble with the law.
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
00jester - “Don't panic, i made assumptions to prove my point. Not recieved i see.”
I agree. sOmEoNe's definitely missing the point.
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
Hawk, calm down. I think you're looking for racism here.
I talked about the rap (hip hop) lifestyle and the often-associated disasters that follow. How many rock band members or country singers are gunned down on a daily basis, by comparison? Don't be so blind to what goes on and what is said in the lyrics.
I NEVER said it was a racial issue.
Eminem is white, yeah?!?! I'd say the same about him, any day, if he turned up dead. Kinda surprised that hasn't happened yet.
Again, people need to quit being so politically correct and see it for what it is.
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carolannfugate (Anonymous) says…
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. ”
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
00jester -
I disagree. Opinions can be changed. But why bother right? Wrong! If one truly cares about an issue, they find bigger and better ways of proving their point. Only close minded individuals would refuse to look at something new that may change their current point of view. They're purposely ignorant and SHOULD be ignored. Someone who's asking questions, probing possibilities, etc. are those who are choosing to NOT remain ignorant .. they want answers. So, it comes down to how one goes about changing anothers opinion (something clearly lost to many). Threats, talking down to, name calling and bullying isn't gonna cut it. That's really all I was trying to say.
I didn't know this man, or the man they are looking to question. That doesn't matter. What matters is that someone is dead and someone killed him. And, more importantly, someone's lost a son, brother, uncle, friend .. .. ..
To these people, I am truly sorry for your loss.
Peace be with you. It will come in time.
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snakiller (Anonymous) says…
Marion:
I look forward to the information. Curious how you would come by this information since it has not been made public..I ask this as recently I was being viewed as a pit fighter which was totally outrageous and slanderous ..simply because i own a staffshire terrier. Unfortunately, there is a majority of people that think if one owns a member of this breed, they fight dogs, in fact I am building a case on a pending issue regarding this allegation..as i do not appreciate being personally put into this group ..so please, i ask you, how would one go about getting this information. I realize this is getting away from this article, but as I said, it affected me personally from a viscious attempt at slander. In fact the organization deemed LHS as being one to confirm this until i went up and personally talked with the director to confirm just what was said and what is going on beneath the surface. According to the director there was a problem in N. Lawrence with pit fighting, which is horrid …and the dogs of this breed, suffer consequence due to humans mishandling them.
Thanks.
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dont_panic (Anonymous) says…
carolannfugate -
Color shouldn't be an issue. Character IS all that matters. Who's to blame is a blur for me but I don't believe it lies with any one race, creed, color, etc. All are to blame - - some for being too politically correct, others for not being correct enough, apologists, politicians, heads of religious organaizations, people who make excuses instead of dealing with the issues, individuals who run away from responsibility - - and, until all that's recognized for what it is, it will remain just that .. a dream.
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hawksdomain (Anonymous) says…
Centrist -
Posted by Confrontation (anonymous) on October 18, 2006 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Centrist:- I was simply showing that Christie is okay with a psychotic white woman (who appeared to have even more of a past with police officials) being saved, but a black rapper, whose reason for death is unknown, deserved to die. You say that we shouldn't assume Vic was a nice guy. At least we don't even have to try to make that ASSumption about you.
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So I'm an ASS now for having an opinion?
I could care if you are an ass or not, but your lack of rebuttal on the part “we shouldn't assume the vic was a nice guy” makes me believe that it was your intention. I do not know 'every little bit' that there is to know about Anthony, and I'm sure I will end up learning things that I will not be proud of. However, the young man that I knew was so very kind, sweet, gentle, and so very soft-spoken. Others have said similar things, but many hard heads do not want to hear that. All they are hearing is the rap music and the former crime. Perhaps Major was with him Saturday night, perhaps Major just showed up, I don't know, I don't know Major. Many hard heads on this board are refusing to accept that anything positive written about Anthony because of the rap and ancient history.
I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams why this has happened or how…
Some people have made mistakes in their past. It has been shown that some that post here have never been so foolish and this is why they sit in judgment of those they do not know.
Didn't we learn in Sunday School that God is about forgiveness? If I went to an unorthodox church to learn that, I am truly sorry, because that means YOU (any of you, no one in particular) will not be forgiven for the very original sin. And I am fairly certain that no one here has NEVER sinned…
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puppytiger48 (Anonymous) says…
I say, Peace to one and all. Why do we judge? Judge not, for your day will come and only the Lord can do that. No one of us is perfect. However, living in a Republican town explains alot about judgement of Rap Music. It's hard to have an open mind about Rap when you have never understood the life and motivation. I know both young men, and the DaBombSquad members, I say, Sorry for the lost, I love you all. And, I know you will be the superstars that you are. Understanding is the best thing in the world. And we understand, and that's what matters.
This is Ms. “V”
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
Republican town? You must live somewhere outside of Lawrence.
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Aiko (Anonymous) says…
Wow, now people have moved on to attacking all Republicans! This just keeps getting worse by each entry.
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MR_L (Anonymous) says…
I am a local hip hop artist. Hip Hop is just another form of music amongst so many others. It is not an excuse to be killed over. I knew Anthony (Clacc) and he was not the kind of man I would ever expect anyone would want to kill.
everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. The negative things being said about Anthony are very unfair to him and his family. He died alone. I hope that is an experience none of you has to endure in your final hour.
Rap does not equal violence. And little forums like this don't equal understanding. This whole thing is baffling and when the truth finally does come out about what went on that fateful night, maybe we will be able to give Anthony, his family, and friends some closure.
18 October 2006
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Centrist (Anonymous) says…
I stand by my opinions and am *not* a Republican, nor do I watch Fox news. Nor am I a “liberal” either. Nor am I a “stereotypical” white, middle aged male, but if I was, I would still stand by my opinions.
Politics has zero to do with this matter. I believe that the 'hip hop' life engenders more violence than other ways of living. Now watch everyone call me a racist, or elitist, or “ass”, yet again, even though I haven't called anyone a name or blamed it on race either.
It is horrible that this young man was killed and dumped in a paddock. Agreed on that part, at least. It is an absolute tragedy and I wish nothing but goodness towards the family.
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
Well like i said this morning, i really hope that Major comes forward and tells the truth. Anthonys family deserve that! heck Major's family deserve to know, too! If he didn't do anything except for “hang-out” with Anthony then come forward!! but you all know the saying!!!! what is done in the dark will come to light! So in the mean time we sit and wait!
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acg (Anonymous) says…
yes, centrist, you're a bigot for expressing views that the rap culture is loaded with guns and violence. At least that's what they told me yesterday when I expressed the same view point. I was called a bigot a racist and at one point in time someone disparaged my “obviously white, middle class upbringing”. I find it amusing that the folks that are getting so uptight about this conversation keep jumping on the racist bandwagon when you state the obvious to them about the music or culture they want to hero worship or emulate. I haven't once seen anyone saying negative things about this Clacc person, only the lifestyle he took part in. Yet to hear some of the message posters, we were sitting around having a party because the guy died, we obviously thought he had it coming and screw him but he deserved it! Whatever, the truth is, no one wants to hear the truth. The truth hurts, life's a b**** and then you die. All you can hope for is that it's not in a field somewhere at the hands of someone else.
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hawksdomain (Anonymous) says…
Centrist, I can fully accept that argument and I would sincerely like to apologize, because I know I have been a bit on the emotional side of things. At least by this last comment, I will vouch for your 'non-ass-ness'! ;)
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prioress (Anonymous) says…
Politics has zero to do with this matter. I believe that the 'hip hop' life engenders more violence than other ways of living. Now watch everyone call me a racist, or elitist, or “ass”, yet again, even though I haven't called anyone a name or blamed it on race either.
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I agree. Everything is learned through modeling and repetition……..shooting free throws, reading and writing, wife and child abuse, violence in general towards others. Rap is often sweet and interesting; the darker side of the music, when repeated to those who may already have a tendency towards violence, can be a problem. Nothing outside a person's brain is really “controlling” what happens inside, but images, associations and how they can influence choices made is a well-established principle.
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Motivation (Anonymous) says…
Centrist and ForThePeople-
I was making a point and certainly did it. See how you both jumped to the defense? You didn't like anyone attacking your character as no one that knew or knows Da Bomb Squad crew likes to hear your opinions. Like it or not, yes, this is a public forum, and we have to deal with your wonderful insights.
hawksdomain-
I agree with you totally. I've sat by passive watching these people attacking someone that I know never meant harm to anyone. All he wanted was to make his music and create smiles and fun for anyone listening.
No amount of good prayers will ever make what happened good. However, it might ease the pain a little. I hope.
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lovedbyYou (Anonymous) says…
why doesn't everybody quit talking bad about what happened. do u think that it makes the situation any better? Clacc is like my family. im dating his brother, and i would appriciate that you would quit talkin smack. how would you feel if another one of his family members got on here and read that? you would feel crunchy. or if you got on the computer if your family member died and read some of these hateful remarks?
Major is not a good guy. that's my opinion im not judging anyone. i have known him too and if he ran, there has to be a clue. why would you run from innocence? it's that simple. maybe he did commit this crime, maybe he didn't. but it's open for questioning, just like everybody else has been talked to. so stop being so ignorant and why don't you jus pray for the family and it's friends, and maybe your day and life could go a little bit better. i hope this makes a difference, but i know it won't to the situation but i hope some people take my advise.
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Well frankly I do hope they find this Major dude….the fact that he ran and hasn't come forward yet leads one to believe he is quilty of something!
I do truely believe all of you that Anthony was a nice person, but the simple fact is in my opinion, just as Centrist said, I believe that the 'hip hop' life engenders more violence than other ways of living. It is unfortunate that this happened to a young man who was trying to make a difference in his life, but my opinion stands until I see proof otherwise.
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hilltop (Anonymous) says…
anthony is beyond this now. he's up there laughing at all the haters cause he knows “god don't like ugly!”
18 October 2006
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9999 (Anonymous) says…
I couldn't agree with you more hilltop and karma has something waiting for the rest of you.
18 October 2006
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
Well….all of you that are involved with these individuals….might I suggest that you stop talking to people in community situations, where things might get repeated! It would sure save you a lot of grief!
18 October 2006
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crazyks (Anonymous) says…
“Crunchy”? Gee, I'm out of the loop. I have no idea what that means. Try not to use slang, please.
I have no idea if this man is innocent or not. But I do know why he would run even if he IS innocent. Gosh, it's not like a black man has never been accused or convicted of a crime he didn't commit in this country, is it?
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manyblessings (Anonymous) says…
Pondering why anyone would kill someone that everyone seems to like. Maybe over money? Whoever killed him may have thought they could get him to share some of his supposed fortune that he would be making in the hip hop business. Maybe he seemed like an easy target, being a ” nice guy ” and all? Maybe he didn't have money or said no to a request. The love of money is the root of all evil. That is really the only motive I can think of that makes sense. It still doesn't mean that a particular person killed him, but one can speculate about the motive behind it.
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fcraig (Anonymous) says…
Although christie's statements may have seemed racist to some of us, it is still her roght to say what she wants to. I do not condone racist remarks, but I protect those rights by being in the service. Maybe christie should think about what she has to say before writting them down. Maybe try to explain her point of view without sounding racist.
As far as Major goes, he has been in & out of trouble ever since I can remember. I really think he is out of jail pending charges because, ” A good attorney knows the law, and a great attorney knows the judge ”.
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blockboy (Anonymous) says…
it sickens me 2 see people on here talking down about a person that was taking from us and some1 most people on here really knew nothing about I knew anthony and he was a good person who was taking way 2 early and yeah good people get mixed up with tha wrong crowd sometimes but u shouldent judge a book by its cover.
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TomKat (Anonymous) says…
My question is not who's who or what have they done, it's how long does it take to solve a mystery? How good are we really?
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nana (Anonymous) says…
First off, let me say that I'm not in the least bit concerned about what I posted earlier, as I did not threaten Christie on her remarks. Saying she needed her tail whooped and me saying I was going to be the one to do it, is two different things. Never once did I say I was going to find out who she was and go to town on her, so please re-read the post. Second of all, I don't condone violence in any shape or form for whatever reason. What I posted is my own opinion, sure Christie got a rise out of me, but it's people like that add only to the tension of a messed up situation. Thirdly, I don't recall painting Major as Mother Theresa. I've known him for over 16 years and he hardly comes close, just like the rest of us on this board don't. But, who are we to judge someone when we aren't even in the position to do so. A lot of you don't know Clacc and don't know JaJa personally, however I do. And even though they've had trouble with the law, that still don't take away the fact that both of them were pretty good guys, however Major may have some issues that needs to be corrected. I can only pass my judgement on how he has shown respect to me and my family, since our family have been close through the years. As for Clacc, he was a very spiritual person, very kind hearted and it hurts to see that he is gone probably behind some bs. What I posted earlier, I still feel that way about everything I said, I don't regret not a word. I personally couldn't get upset if I said some foul stuff like Christie did earlier and not expect someone to say something in return. First off, it would never have happened because I do care about all people in general and I know how to show compassion when there is a time for it. To be glad that someone is gone, is totally inhumane. Everyone can sit on this board everyday and all day and say what they think happened and how they knew this and that but like I said earlier, not one of you know anything about anything until the truth comes out. And I'm going to leave it that. Waiting…..
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Aiko (Anonymous) says…
All in one sentence….Wow!
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ltowngirl (Anonymous) says…
I just spent the last hour reading this site and I have never in my life heard so many people being so incensitive in my life. I'm from LAwrence and I know both of Clacc and Major and I feel for both of the families and will be praying that the authorities get to the bottom of this and hopefully rule out Major as a suspect. I do know one thing I loved Clacc's music and I believe that he is somewhere right now putting on a great show. One love
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dthroat (Anonymous) says…
MR_L - While I understand the comment about Clacc dying alone, everyone needs to remember one thing. Clacc did NOT die alone. The person(s) who did this evil were there also. THAT is what people should be concentrating on. It doesn't matter if he was killed because of rap, drugs, money, whatever - - he was killed and the killer(s) are out there. Can we try to help SOLVE this instead of worrying what rap music involves or who is Republican or anything else???????
IF people who actually know and liked Clacc, know something just speak out. Don't care if you like rap or are a Republican or Democrat. Help find who killed our friend Clacc.
Thanks
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
right on dthroat…..in the long run what people think really doesn't matter. Putting this vicious crime to rest does….so we all can feel a little safer and the family can have some resolution!
19 October 2006
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GladImGone (Anonymous) says…
First time poster, long time lurker here to make a few points:
I did the majority of my growing up in Lawrence and can first handedly say that this is a bad case of being a product of your environment. I would never say someone “deserves” to die but to be honest here, it doesn't shock me one bit. I can state for a fact Major is nothing but trouble, just take a look at his family, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree…. I can appreciate the fact that the friends and family of both Major and Anthony will come on here and defend them, that's fine, but's let's all be honest, I'd put good money on the fact that Anthony had a few skeletons in the closet you didn't know about. People just don't wind up dead in a field outside Lawrence. My main problem with this whole situation is the fact that people are being called racist and being accused of being stereotypical when all they're doing is calling a spade a spade if you will. That's my rant, do with it what you will….
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GladImGone (Anonymous) says…
“My question is not who's who or what have they done, it's how long does it take to solve a mystery? How good are we really?”
If I were DG CO sherriff, I'd be taking a long look at the notorious “Schoolyard Crips” in the 25-30 year old age range……
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ForThePeople (Anonymous) says…
What is or who are the “Schoolyard Crips”? I've heard of the Crips in big cities…..but in Lawrence? Please say it ain't so!
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GladImGone (Anonymous) says…
I should have clarified, it's a group of kids/men that go around claiming their crips, my bad….
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texasgrl (Anonymous) says…
The Schoolyard Crips, are just wanna bes Crips! Trust ME! just like GladImGone said… they are Kids/men! The Real Crips in the bigger cities are moving to smaller towns like Lawrence.
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doesitmatter (Anonymous) says…
Wanna be's are the worst kind to have. Those are the ones that do not understand. Those are the ones that believe it is all about what they see…. that killing, drugs and living in fear is what is all about. It should not matter if they are real or not.
We can complain 24x7 about the problems of drugs, violence, racism, stereotypes and other injustices, but unless our young choose to initiate a personal change, we will remain victims of unjust conditions.
Unless they change, they will be incapable of changing the circumstances around them: around us.
We expect those that listen to rap, those that surround themselves with drugs, guns, violence, and death to act in a certain way. We are all quick to stereotype them when instead we should be the one raising our expectations of them.
The question is, can they become motivated enough to defy the expectations that many people have of them?
This is very scary to me. Anyone one of us could become the next victim to a senseless crime.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
Mr_Ramirez
We the people know no such thing but hey if you have inside info please share.
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carolannfugate (Anonymous) says…
It wasn't a poem it was a Joanie Mitchell song.
20 October 2006
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lovedbyYou (Anonymous) says…
i see everybody's still being selfish…
20 October 2006
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don_burgess (Anonymous) says…
Clues…
Clacc, Da BombSquad, JVOLA, body found sunday, highway 40…. Clacc, Da BombSquad, JVOLA, body found sunday, highway 40….
This means something. - elusive. Hidden. Must concentrate…
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help_me_understand (Anonymous) says…
Does this major have a big family? And what are they like? Or was this major a bad apple? Last question, have anyone seen him or hard from him? How do we know that something isn't wrong with major he might be hurt also. What do you think?
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
Why no news on this in several days?
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punkrockmom (Anonymous) says…
I was wondering the same thing. It might be that they aren't letting people know more because of jury selection? Anyway, I heard somewhere that they have Major, but I don't know if that's true as it's a grapevine type thing and don't know him personally. Lawrence is really a small town, lots of grapevines.
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carolannfugate (Anonymous) says…
I heard they have been questioning quite a few people. Anyone who was seen with the victim or Major that day.
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ltownsgg (Anonymous) says…
I think this whole situation was horrible to say the least. I knew Clacc and Jaja for the past couple of years. The news still seems unreal to me. I read nearly all of the comments left on all the articles on this case and I have to say a lot of you people really make me sick. Is rap not just like rock and roll in the 60's/70's? Wasn't it satans music? I mean come on “sex, drugs, and rock and roll” but now we have a whole bunch of minorities listening to rap and I think that we are unfairly labled. To help set the record straight Clacc was a different person, I never met anyone like him, and yes he was almost ALWAYS talking about God and how he influences our lives. I sat there and watched him talk about God for an hour plus. He was a very holy good man trying to make things right with God. I know Clacc is in heaven having fun kickin it with his other friends. Just because he was part of the “gangster rap” music doesn't mean he's a bad person. That really upset me that people are so cruel to talk bad about someone who had just recently passed in such a violent way. What is wrong with the people who sat there and judged a complete stranger on a few articles to sum up a life. What makes people think they have the right to say he was this he was that when the only thing that matters is what God thinks. If you put something positive on this message board then good, otherwise though why? I have wanted to get on here and fight with a large amount of people about there ways and beliefs but I will let it be. Claccs soul lies in peace with God right where he wanted to be in the end. His end was not supposed to come so soon but for some reason it did. Now, Jaja I have also known for a few years. He has never scared me at all or made me feel uncomfortable. I was not that close in his circle of people, not a girlfriend or a friend really but we had mutual friends. Just because of his criminal history people are so quick to judge. Next time I see someone talk down on here I want them to think, man I wonder what really made this person this way, and before many are quick to blame it on influences around them or anything else think of the society black people in general are put into. Do you think people really want to sell drugs all their lives? No. But when you are raised in an environment where you have no choice in what to do, you make it happen. Don't knock him because a lot of you haven't been there. I know I am no where near perfect and I know no one else out there is either. Just let the facts come out on there own and leave Jaja's judgement between God and him, and his own consciences.