Archive for Thursday, October 12, 2006

KU football, men’s basketball lose scholarships

October 12, 2006


Kansas University programs in football and men's basketball will lose scholarships as part of penalties announced today by the NCAA.

NCAA Division I committee teleconference on KU's violations


The penalties include:

¢ Three years' probation, ending Oct. 11, 2009.

¢ A loss of three football scholarships for 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years.

¢ The loss of one scholarship - from 13 to 12 - in men's basketball in 2007-08 and 2008-09. The program also loses eight official paid recruiting visits.

¢ The loss of two scholarships in women's basketball for 2005-06, and a reduction that year in the number of coaches who can recruit off-campus - from three to two. Those penalties were self-imposed by the university during that school year, but found by the NCAA to be "disproportionate" to the infraction.

The penalties were for violations that included more than $5,000 in benefits to two basketball players and their families; and improper benefits to seven football recruits, including test-taking assistance to two of those players.

Of the 11 violations, five were for football, three for men's basketball and one for women's basketball. The 10th was the bundling of 26 secondary violations, and No. 11 was a blanket violation alleging lack of institutional control.

Kansas self-imposed penalties for the violations it found - pretty much the same ones the NCAA found in its subsequent investigation - with hopes those would be considered enough in the eyes of the committee.

KU officials will hold a press conference at 4 p.m. to discuss their reaction. More as this story develops.

See the NCAA Committee on Infractions press release.


hilly 11 years, 6 months ago

Why is women's basketball losing more scholarships then the men's team, especially since they commited less offences?

mcoan 11 years, 6 months ago

All the more reason that, for bball, this has to be the season to win it all.

Ken Miller 11 years, 6 months ago

Slap on the wrist, especially with regard to the "test-taking" assistance charge. The Chance and "Sweet Lou" should quickly say "Thank you, NCAA, it will never happen again" and quickly be on their way.

Nate Poell 11 years, 6 months ago

Sorry guys, but it is going to hurt. Losing eight recruiting trips isn't going to hurt?! Imagine it from the recruits' standpoint, 1) I can't visit to see whether KU's a good place for me, and; 2) depending on my ranking in your recruitment plan, I may not get a scholarship. Not good.

Plus the loss of two scholarships from a women's team that was on the cusp of coming into its own? Not to mention the reduction of transfers AND scholarships for the football program?

It could've -- and maybe should've -- been a lot worse. But dang, you guys are sugarcoating it. This sucks.

betti81 11 years, 6 months ago

This sucks indeed! what exactly does a three year probation mean in this situation?

BigDog 11 years, 6 months ago

The loss of football scholarships could hurt more than basketball bacause right now there are no seniors on the basketball team and has a lot of depth of players. When you are trying to build up a football team and the number of players that play in a game you need as many scholarship players as possible. Depth of talent is an issue for football.

roger_o_thornhill 11 years, 6 months ago

Wht happened to the good ol' days when the NCAA had some spine. Think SMU in the 80s.

Larry Bauerle Jr. 11 years, 6 months ago

This will probably have an impact, but it definitely could have been worse. Hopefully all involved have learned a lesson.

Ken Miller 11 years, 6 months ago

It could have (and maybe should have) been a lot worse. Being banned from tournaments/bowl games - there's some revenue loss for ya. And the recruiting trips - heck, these coaches are getting "playas" by text-mesaging their rear-ends all times of day and night. Granted, football is taking it harder than hoops, but c'mon - the majority of the problems were football related and Mangino WAS the coach at the time!

ruette 11 years, 6 months ago

I wish they would go after the individuals who benefitted/perpetrated, instead of the institution and a lot of younger athletes who weren't even around when all this happened.

chicklet 11 years, 6 months ago

test taking assistance happens more than that, i'm sure. heard of the hale achievement center? yeah.

toefungus 11 years, 6 months ago

Over all this penalty is not too bad. The real kicker is the extented probation. With everything that goes on in college sports, it will be difficult to keep the program squeeky clean for so long.

Shardwurm 11 years, 6 months ago

Keep this up and you won't be able to say "Wait until basketball season!!"

Instead you'll be saying: "Wait until rowing season!!!"

oldgoof 11 years, 6 months ago

toefungus: " will be difficult to keep the program squeeky clean for so long." ..

(ahem....cough cough) Keep the program squeeky clean ?

kugrad 11 years, 6 months ago

This is all Bohl's fault. Roy Williams was right about that loser. Good thing we got rid of him or this would be a lot worse. That being said, we are being punished for minor infractions and we all know that the big winning programs are not clean, especially the top football programs. No way. Kansas makes a good target, but even perpetual violators like Missouri got off easy compared to us, and we self-reported. This sucks.

ModSquadGal 11 years, 6 months ago

I don't understand... you know the rules; you know what you can and can't do; you know what the result will be, and still, you do it. What is the deal? Why do they break the rules anyhow? Is it that lucrative to take the chance? Is b'ball really just that much of a corporate entity? Sad...

bjamnjm 11 years, 6 months ago

This both sucks and blows. Losing the scholarships stinks, losing the recruiting visits really sucks b/c now we have to ask a kid to sign a letter of intent w/o seeing where he's going to play. Given the reduction in off-campus visits by a coach, this kid may not get to see who he's going to play for, where he's going to play and may end up w/o a scholarship. This is bad news for Fatty Mangino and the gang. That's pretty bold taking tests for the players. It could've been worse but this is definitely not good.

klmammo 11 years, 6 months ago

You know what we need? Bobby Knight! He might kick their a$$es, but he sure as hell runs a clean program.

Steve Jacob 11 years, 6 months ago

p> said it best, KU Basketball, 2 national titles, Major NCAA infractionses, 5.

UCLA 11 and 3 Kentucky 7 and 4 North Carolina 5 and 1 Duke 3 and 1 Indiana 5 and 0

Also, from The aspect of the Kansas case that should trouble its fans most was the trip a booster (identified in media reports as Don Davis) gave to a recruit (identified as current Jayhawk Darnell Jackson) and his AAU coach for the 2004 NCAA Tournament regional semifinals and final. The booster paid for all transportation, lodging and meals for both the player and AAU coach, according to the NCAA report.

Not only that, the report says the three had the temerity to get comp tickets from the school for those games, listed as guests of a Kansas player. Checking comp ticket lists should be fairly elementary work, either by the compliance office or a member of the basketball staff. Names of non-family members should be red-flagged and checked out.

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