Archive for Saturday, March 25, 2006

Anger, guns

March 25, 2006


To the editor:

Some years ago, on a slippery winter day, I saw one car skid forward into another. The idiot driving the front car was outraged. I say "idiot," because he immediately put his car into reverse and slammed back into the car that had hit him. That blow wasn't sufficient revenge, though, so the idiot pulled forward to get some running room, and then reversed back into the car behind him, hitting even harder than the first time. The two drivers, both men, then got out, screamed at each other and eventually exchanged insurance information.

It looks like Kansas is about to allow people to carry concealed weapons.

Were the incident to recur in Kansas, either or both drivers could be carrying. And I won't be watching the circus, I'll be screaming at my kids to "get down" in case bullets start flying.

Or maybe I should start carrying so I can shoot first to protect my kids.

I'll gain a little respect for the Kansas legislators voting to permit concealed weapons if and when - don't hold your breath, folks - they allow concealed weapons in the state Capitol where they work. In the meantime, let's patronize only stores and restaurants that prohibit concealed weapons.

John Rosen,



xenophonschild 12 years, 2 months ago

Good on you. Let's send the wannabee tough guys to the south side of Chicago and let them prove to themselves just how tough they are. Go shoot the bad guys, wussie boys! Kansas is a great, safe place to live, and we don't need this kind of irrational overkill.

KayCee 12 years, 2 months ago

Don't buy your : "Were the incident to recur in Kansas, either or both drivers could be carrying." Hey don't your know some 'idiots' are packing now. These guys are shooting and carrying without the permit. I'll trust the ones with permits after a background search over thugs.

Kelly Powell 12 years, 2 months ago

this is called transferance...So many people having violent fantasies that they assume everyone will do what they would do if they had a gun......Get some help sickos......Seriously it is inane to think the streets will run red with blood cause of this law....Now if they legalized dueling, that would be cool.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 12 years, 2 months ago

The streets won't run with blood, nor will we as a society be made any safer.

ChasL 12 years, 2 months ago

Xeno, Did ya notice in the picture that the "wannabee toughguy" was a mother??? I guess "wannabee toughguys" aren't the only ones that feel personal protection is important.

ben_ness 12 years, 2 months ago

I live in a state where it is legal to carry a concealed weapon. Trust me, nothing is going to change. While my feeling on the subject are objective, I am surprised with the fire and brimstone approach the pundits are taking. Things are going to be fine. Plus, John, if someone is crazy enough to shoot somebody over a car accident, chances are they are going to be packing regardless of what the law allows.

xenophonschild 12 years, 2 months ago

My primary concern is the quality of our civilization, corny as that might sound. When marauding barbarians are at the gates, you build walls and withdraw all that you love and care about inside. We do not need guns in Kansas. Ours is a wonderful place to live, a place of quiet beauty that, if you let it, reminds you of the majesty of God. I write literary fiction, and seek every opportunity to celebrate who we are and where we live. Handguns are vile things that diminish, not enhance. The very best police officers, in their hearts, never want to have to use their weapons, and it may be too much to expect ordinary citizens, regardless of how many weeks of training/instruction, to respond appropriately in a manner that covers all the myriad nuances of an armed confrontation.

If you decide to "pack," be conscious of a higher degree of responsibility. Exercise restraint above all.

xenophonschild 12 years, 2 months ago

Who of you understand the nature of evil? Will your puny handguns prevail against it? Shakespeare, even though he was an Englishman, got it right: "What fools these mortals be!"

Moderateguy 12 years, 2 months ago

Xeno, you seem educated (quoting ol' Will S.). What actual experience (apart from Hollywood) do you have with guns? Have you ever fired one? Has anyone ever bothered to teach you how to respect or handle one? Have you actually done any research into the effects this legislation has had on the majority of U.S. states that have enacted it? I appreciate your fear, but I suspect it isn't coming from a position of real experience. Calm down. Vermont and Alaska let anyone conceal a weapon. Where are the constant news stories of "Dodge City" antics from there? Things will be just as they were (though statistically there should be a significant drop in violent crime.) Incidentally, Great Britain's violent crime rate is significcantly higher per capita than the U.S.. I'm not really saying that it is some sort of direct relationship. Kansas isn't Vermont and certainly not Great Britain. But, the rampant "what if's" just have never panned out.

xenophonschild 12 years, 2 months ago

I killed a man with a handgun. I was trained to fire weapons as an officer in the U.S Marine Corps. Rhetoric aside, very few people need to carry a handgun in our state. This business of carrying concealed weapons is pathetic, and unnecessary. With the availability of cellular telephones, should you see or be involved in a situation that requires the participation of law enforcement, call them.

shanefivedyes 12 years, 2 months ago

Xenophonschild, Does your stance against concealed weapons have anything to do with the fact that you cannot own a gun? If a law abiding person want to carry so be it, if they break the law they go to jail.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 12 years, 2 months ago

While I don't expect the sky to fall because of the concealed carry law, it won't make us any safer, either. If someone is threatening you with a gun, if you pull a gun on them, instead of just bradishing that gun, they are much more likely to start firing. If you are lucky enough to get a few shots off, there is no guarantee that you will hit them, or that they won't hit you, or that innocent bystanders won't get caught by the stray bullets. The likelihood of heroic outcomes is mighty slim.

I don't see any reason to feel any safer with this new law, even if I do get a pistol and a permit.

ACP 12 years, 2 months ago

All of this arguing is moot. The right to carry is a fact. Those who want to carry, will. Those who are against it have to live with it. Time will tell. I am not worried. The criminals carried guns prior to the law. The only difference now is that they might come up against someone who knows how to shoot--like me. Criminals don't practice their firearms skills--I do. Good luck.

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