Archive for Saturday, March 4, 2006

Lack of direction

March 4, 2006


To the editor:

The Feb. 28 article in the Journal-World about traffic-calming devices is yet another example of a commission that is lacking direction. The election was almost a year ago and still nothing is happening. More of the same babble about traffic calming, homeless, flowers downtown (to make it "nice" and "quaint") and quite frankly, "much ado about nothing."

The streets are not for the kids, Mr. Highberger! The sidewalks are the appropriate place to be walking. If the kids are in the street, then the parents should perhaps take some parenting classes and take the child to see someone who was hit and now is in a wheelchair.

Wheelchairs, even those are in the street on 13th because there are no sidewalks. Austin Turney in the Journal-World article (when East Heights was being closed) commented that sidewalks would need to be built when the school closed because some students would be walking to New York School, blah and blah! Where are the sidewalks, Mr. Turney?

A traffic circle on 13th, if constructed as the others, is going to be one sad mess for the funeral processions on 13th. Perhaps the McElwain and Rumsey funeral homes should comment on the ease of navigating a roundabout with a hearse.

Mr. Woosley, do you soon plan to add a director of black tire mark removal to your staff?

To the commission: For God's sake, do something and do it correct and nice and economical. Quit experimenting!

David Holroyd,



just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 12 years, 3 months ago

I've seen you doing that, CC. Don't you have anything better to do? Might I suggest watching paint dry?

Godot 12 years, 3 months ago

Merrill has a problem with drivers to "divert" through residential street, and that is why we need traffic calming devices. So why is there a roundie on 19th? That has been a major through street for as long as I can remember. The roundies are actually causing people to "divert."

classclown 12 years, 3 months ago

Direction is not needed when it comes to roundabouts. You just go round and round and round. Then throw your arms up and go WHEEEEE! Round and round and round WHEEEEE!

Richard Heckler 12 years, 3 months ago

The 4 way stop signs at 19th and Barker were causing back up during rush hours causing people to divert. The roundabout keeps traffic flowing and no more stopping when there are zero other cars are at the intersection.

Neighborhoods have a problem with speeding cars diverting through residential streets. These are the people who request traffic calming devices. Neighborhood reps meet with a traffic safety engineer to discuss the options. DOT and KDOT provide guidelines and designs. City Commissioners are the final word.

classclown 12 years, 3 months ago

Posted by just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (anonymous) on March 4, 2006 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've seen you doing that, CC. Don't you have anything better to do? Might I suggest watching paint dry?

For someone that is quick to call other posters on here a liar for the things they say, you sure were quick to tell one yourself. You have never seen me do that. Now that you've been caught telling an outright lie, you can never expect to have what you say taken seriously as everyone will just assume you're lying again.

Richard Heckler 12 years, 3 months ago

Traffic circles on 13th are not likely. Neighborhood members stated that those were not desirable for this matter and neither were middle of the street islands.

The solutions are yet to be selected.

Darrell Lea 12 years, 3 months ago

Has Mr. Holroyd or any of the other respondents ever actually resided on the stretch of 13th Street being discussed for traffic solutions? I lived in the 800 block of East 13th for over a year, and just recently moved. I was witness to some really idiotic driving stunts that would frighten any concerned person.

Individual responsibility is the ideal solution for any problem, but that quality seems to be disappearing from the American mindset quicker than factory jobs and the expectation of privacy.

Sidewalks would be a wonderful addition to the neighborhood, but that still wouldn't solve the problems that selfish, pig-headed speed demons and their cars create every day.

Richard Heckler 12 years, 3 months ago

Traffic calming devices are not the problem. The problem lies within the automobile aka the speeding driver. If speeding drivers were not diverting themselves through neighborhoods the discussion of such objects likely would not surface. The Department of Transportation and Kansas Department of Transportation provide guide lines and design. Some complain of the cost yet employing more police officers would put this cost to shame.

Roundabouts do work. They allow traffic to keep moving. 4 way stops do not as traffic comes to a halt. Police do need to monitor the 19th and Barker roundabout because east west drivers do not allow north south drivers their turn. Before they had to stop even when no one else was in the intersection.

It is not only this commission that approves traffic calming measures. Traffic calming devices go back a few years long before the so called PLC members were elected.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 12 years, 3 months ago

Actually, if a roundabout is constructed at 13th and Haskell, it will likely be much like the one at 19th and Barker. Provided each of the drivers in the funeral procession has adequate enough skills to warrant possession of a driver's licence, it should present no problems.

As far as the sidewalks go, which solution should the city commission select, Corn Cob? Make sidewalks 100% a city government reponsibility, and raise taxes by the millions of dollars it would take to repair and/or add new ones anywhere there is a deficiency? Or should they just strictly enforce the existing policy, which would mean billing property owners?

Those are the only two choices. Surely in your infinite wisdom you can tell us which way to go, and how to respond when the public, likely including you, screams bloody murder at either choice.

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