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Kansas congressmen support 32nd St. route

June 2, 2006


The view of the South Lawrence Trafficway is different in Washington, D.C., than it is from City Hall.

Five of the six members of the state's congressional delegation have signed a letter to federal regulators supporting a 32nd Street route for the eastern leg of the South Lawrence Trafficway. That's despite the Lawrence City Commission and Lawrence-Douglas County Planning Commission sending letters opposing the route because it would run through the Baker Wetlands.

U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts, who has been one of the stronger supporters of the bypass project, said completing the trafficway was critical to the state's plan to create a "Kansas Technology Corridor."

"We must look to the future and make this investment to help create the bio-science and high-tech corridor from Manhattan to Topeka to Lawrence to Kansas City," Roberts said in a prepared statement.

Rep. Dennis Moore, the lone Democrat in the Kansas federal delegation, was the only member not to sign the letter. Moore represents the 3rd District, which covers an eastern portion of Douglas County, including the proposed trafficway completion route.

Show of support

Roberts also said the Douglas County Commission, K-10 Assn., Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce, Kansas State University, city of Tonganoxie, city of Overland Park, city of Lenexa, Olathe Chamber of Commerce and Kansas Association of Realtors had submitted letters of support to the Federal Highway Administration, which is reviewing the appropriate route for the road. The cities of Baldwin and Eudora also have submitted letters endorsing the 32nd Street route.

Supporters of the trafficway said the letters showed the sentiments expressed by the City Commission and Planning Commission were not consensus opinions.

"What it does is help express to the Federal Highway Administration and to the public at large that there is broad support for the completion of the trafficway, and for completing it on the 32nd Street route," said Douglas County Commissioner Bob Johnson. "I believe the need for this road is becoming more evident every day."

City Commissioner David Schauner - one of the three on the five-member commission who agreed to send a letter opposing the 32nd Street route - said the fact the congressional delegation thinks differently did not sway his opinion.

"There are only five of us elected to represent the city of Lawrence," Schauner said. "The majority of city commissioners believe there is a better route. I appreciate people having different opinions. But for good or ill, they are not the elected representatives of the city of Lawrence."

The city commission split 3-2 on the issue.

'Hot and heavy'

The Federal Highway Administration accepted public comment through Wednesday on the project. The agency must approve a route for the long-stalled road in order for federal funds to be spent on the project.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in 2001 studied the project and determined that a 32nd Street route was the best way to complete the trafficway, which now stretches from Interstate 70 west of town to U.S. Highway 59 at the southern edge of Lawrence.

The Federal Highway Administration was accepting comment on whether it should adopt the corps' completed study or conduct one of its own.

Mike Bowen, a division administrator with the Federal Highway Administration, estimated the agency had received about 500 comments, significantly more than the 10 to 100 comments it normally receives for a road project.

"What I can tell you is that they have come in hot and heavy over the last few days," Bowen said.

Now the agency will review the comments and issue a decision. Bowen, though, said he didn't have a timeline for completing the process. He said a tally of letters for and against had not been made.

A spokeswoman for Moore said the congressman was out of the country and unavailable to comment on why he didn't sign the letter put together by Roberts.

The congressional letter also made no mention of Kansas University supporting the project, though it did say Kansas State University sent a letter of support.

Todd Cohen, a spokesman for KU, said KU did not send a letter supporting or opposing the project.

"Our position has been to leave that to the bodies that have jurisdiction over it, and that is not us," Cohen said.


lunacydetector 11 years, 9 months ago

thank God for our friends in washington.

i hope i didn't tick off any of the progressives by mentioning "God."

looks like KU took the chickenchit route, while K-State came to the majority's defense for the 32nd street alignment. sanity prevails!

the voters passed the SLT many years ago. why are our local leaders trying to circumvent the will of the people? just because they happened to get elected does not mean they need to act like Fidel Castro.

Sandman 11 years, 9 months ago

What Schauner MEANT to say was:

Even though the majority of Lawrence residents want this, and voted for it several years ago, we City Commissioners decided to represent our far left supporters and SCREW everybody else.

Please, please, PLEASE vote to get some normal people on the commission next year.

Lonestar1 11 years, 9 months ago

BUILD THE ROAD!!!!! It has been 20 years, get it done.

Richard Heckler 11 years, 9 months ago

The Hurricane victims of Katrina need these D.C.republicans to make Bush clean up that mess. The citizens of Mississippi.Louisiana and Texas are still waiting. Those D.C. politicians live in Washington D.C. not Lawrence.

Most of the money to pay for the road will likely come from Douglas County citizens most of which live in Lawrence.

The suggestion below is little change from the KDOT approved 42nd route choice. This idea runs straight to K-10 interchange 1057 instead of cutting into the wetlands and then runs over to I-70 at Tonganoxie.

Not only that this idea accomplishes far more than the trafficway plan towards giving life to the Kansas Technology Corridor that Roberts mentioned.

"U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts, who has been one of the stronger supporters of the bypass project, said completing the trafficway was critical to the state's plan to create a "Kansas Technology Corridor."

"We must look to the future and make this investment to help create the bio-science and high-tech corridor from Manhattan to Topeka to Lawrence to Kansas City," Roberts said in a prepared statement."

Why not agree on a south-of-the-river bypass and forget the obsolete trafficway concept? Spend tax dollars on a more practical application. Introduce appropriate plans designed to meet future needs, a plan that could bring Johnson, Douglas and Leavenworth counties together as partners. This requires bridges across the river. All three counties would benefit, thus would assist funding the project. Then, turn the entire road project over to the Kansas Turnpike Authority.

A south-of-the-river route would join County Road 1057 and Kansas Highway 10 to carry traffic north to Interstate 70 by way of I-70 connectors meeting a Tonganoxie turnpike interchange.

This concept accomplishes many things. It services:

¢ Johnson and Douglas counties' traffic going to northwest Lawrence or Topeka.

¢ the Eudora Business Park east of 1057.

¢ East Hills Business Park and the southeast Lawrence industrial park.

¢ the Lawrence airport.

And it:

¢ diverts traffic around the city.

¢ keeps the SLT out of the wetlands.

¢ reduces congestion for morning and afternoon commuters.

¢ might save Douglas County taxpayers millions of dollars.

¢ is a practical and prudent use of tax dollars.

¢ eliminates the need for an eastern bypass.

¢ eliminates much large truck traffic on 23rd Street.

¢ allows KTA fees to pay for the highway and the maintenance.

Building a road through the wetlands at any cost at this point in time is simply not prudent use of Douglas County tax dollars.

Doug Harvey 11 years, 9 months ago

Some of the people who thoroughly enjoy and want to nourish the wetland area (birdwatchers) would be surprised to be called "far left." Nurturing places where people -- and their children -- can learn about the wonders of nature is not radical, it's sanity. Radical is building a road that costs millions of dollars on the assumption you'll be able to bulldoze a beautiful haven for wildlife to complete it.

Steve Mechels 11 years, 9 months ago

Good points merrill

blue73; I'll bet SOR would be faster since we can be guaranteed there will be more lawsuits if it goes 32nd.

SOR makes more sense in the long run. This will give the planning commission time to start deciding on how Lawrence should grow south. It is time to start putting more emphasis on smart growth and new urbanism type planning. That is how we will keep our community a pleasant place to live.

With the projected growth and the push for an industrial corridor, we will most likely need another "bypass" south in the next 25-30 years anyway. Why not kill two birds with one stone, build SOR and get the thing done!!!

Richard Heckler 11 years, 9 months ago

Keeping it out of the wetlands is significant. The rest is up to KDOT unless Bob Johnson and Jere McElheney become the obstacles. Louie McElheney stood up at a meeting on this matter an offered the SOR route for a second speedway so it's not as if a SOR route is unaceptable.

monkeyhawk 11 years, 9 months ago

"There are only five of us elected to represent the city of Lawrence," Schauner said. "The majority of city commissioners believe there is a better route. I appreciate people having different opinions. But for good or ill, they are not the elected representatives of the city of Lawrence."

In his own words, Schauner's position is very clear. He thinks he was elected (by how many? 2 or 3 thousand votes) to represent an "it" (the city) rather than "them" (the taxpayers).

This dude is drunk with ego and power. Obviously, he feels that it is his way or the highway.

I pick the highway.

Steve Mechels 11 years, 9 months ago

BTW, why hasn't anyone done a scientific survey to find out what the people really want? Is everyone afraid to actually find out one way or another?

staff04 11 years, 9 months ago

aeroscout17-- of course they are afraid. someone would find out that they were wrong, and we all know what that would do to the egos of some of the posters on these boards...

lunacydetector 11 years, 9 months ago

hey merrill!

how many times are the progressives gonna have lawrence the laughingstock on the Drudge Report? OUR city has made that website like 4 TIMES in 6 months. of all the cities in the world, little old lawrence gets this kind of publicity. you should be proud we've made the most popular website so many times.

Drudge only gets over 3 BILLION hits a year!

have you done it yet? have you banned cell phones? gonna ban em' for bicycle riders as well?

speedykitty 11 years, 9 months ago

If this is only Lawrence's decision, its elected representatives (forgetting state representatives and senators, and U.S. senators and representatives), then let Lawrence pay the bill.

They need to get off high-center and realize HY 59 is coming, like it or not, bigger and (better?), roaring into south Lawrence. Where is all of that traffic going to go?

Put a major road to Hy 10 East somewhere, but get it built.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 11 years, 9 months ago

This is pure ego now, and the posters on this board demonstrate that.

This is all about the powerful (and the toadies to the powerful) putting those percieved as "uppity rabble-rousers" in their places. Can't have important decisions like the placement of truckways being influenced by Injuns, environmentalists and librals.

Even if the SOR route can be demonstrated to be as good or better than shoving it down Haskell's throat, there is a priniciple to be upheld: When the movers and shakers say jump, the only permitted question is "how high?"

lunacydetector 11 years, 9 months ago

it won't be shoved down haskell's throat! they don't even own the ground where it will be built! please stop with the misinformation.

clarkentsman 11 years, 9 months ago

This is a regional highway not a city street or road. At the present time projected cost to finish the by-pass exceeds $100m, most of which will be state and/or federal funds. Therefore, the congressional delegation the right - obligation - to voice their opinion.

Most of the highway is located in Douglas County - only a quarter of a mile of the highway encroaches on ground located within the city limits. It is located within the projected growth area so county commissioners, Lawrence/Douglas County planning department all have some say in the project.

As far as the Baker Wetlands is concerned Baker University has been the owner and caretaker of the land for the past 40 years.

Here is a letter written by Roger Boyd the current manager of the Baker Wetlands and an expert on wetlands biology and restoration has to say.

What are the Baker Wetlands? Studies agree on 'wetlands' geology

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 11 years, 9 months ago


In other words, "Screw Haskell, I want my SLT."

conservative 11 years, 9 months ago

Bozo, I'm worried that if the SOR plan was approved we would still be screwing Haskel. I mean after all they don't own that land either.

I actually don't have any great desire to see if go along 32nd street other than the desire to see the project finished in my lifetime, and the desire to minimize costs.

How about this compromise, What if the SOR plan goes forward and Haskell pays the difference in cost to keep the highway from crossing land they don't own?

GOPConservative 11 years, 9 months ago

Maybe Ryun and Brownback can visit their sugar daddy, criminal lobbyist Jack Abramhoff, and get his support.

Since Abramhoff put up the laundered money that got Ryun and Brownback elected, he probably has some more buried somewhere that could be dug up to slip under the table for the Federal Regulators.

Abramhoff could also give local politicians some pointers on how to better rip off Native Americans.

Sounds like Dolph Simons was behind getting them to write this letter. I hope the Federal Regulators understand that none of these criminal politicians are from Lawrence and that people of Lawrence have voted against those crooks in election after election.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 11 years, 9 months ago

What about this compromise?-- build no highway at all. Gas is going to hit $6.00 a gallon within the next few years, and probably $10.00 shortly after that. Most of those commuters will be abandoning houses that are too far from their jobs, and the SLT will be obsolete way before the bonds that pay for it will be paid off.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 11 years, 9 months ago

Today I woke up a little smarter than I usually am. I've decided that I've posted enough on this subject.

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 9 months ago

bozo injun come on you are better than that. And I do mean that as a compliment, just seemed odd from all the other posts you have written to throw that in there.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 11 years, 9 months ago

Usually, when the movers and shakers offer a compromise, it's of the form, "OK, we won't kill you-- we'll just break both your arms and legs and cover half your hospital bills."

I thought I'd offer a compromise, too-- but at least one that's based on reality.

bankboy119 11 years, 9 months ago

No, Bozo doesn't get it. Traffic isn't going to magically stop and we are not going to become more dependent on walking for transportation. If we did, we wouldn't be progressing forward. Since the beginning of time we've come up with invention after invention to get us places faster and safer to let us accomplish more in a day. We used to walk, then invented the wheel for leverage, or for cars if you saw the Flintstones, and we learned husbandry to travel by animals. We invented shoes to protect our feet from the ground. Bicycles came along to ride, then combustion and fossil fuel. We're now in the process of harnessing electricity and hydrogen to have an unlimited supply of energy...until we come up with something even better. We are not going to go back to walking, build the road.

Mike Blur 11 years, 9 months ago

Clarkentsman, Prof. Boyd flip-flops more than John Kerry. Read: "1988 Arden Booth, owner of KLWN Radio, writes a letter April 11 to Baker University President Dan Lambert containing a veiled threat that a boycott by major Baker donors will ensue if he doesn't muzzle or fire Prof. Roger Boyd, Baker Wetlands Manager who publicly advocates a South of the Wakarusa route. Boyd does change his position and supports a 31st Street route. However, in a May 2, 1994, letter to the Douglas County Commission, he returns to his original position of opposing any route North of the Wakarusa River." Given Prof. Boyd's historical wavering on the issue at hand, it would be wise to view him as a dubious source at best. Wetlands SLT proponents who choose to cite his statements would be best served finding another spokesman.

bankboy119 11 years, 9 months ago

I love how you refute my points Bozo.

"Just click your heels three times"

Is that really the best you can come up with? It reminds me of the other time I pointed out how negative you are about everything and if you didn't like it to change it or leave or just plain shut up and all you could do was call me a simplistic twit.

Richard Heckler 11 years, 9 months ago

U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts, who has been one of the stronger supporters of the bypass project, said completing the trafficway was critical to the state's plan to create a "Kansas Technology Corridor."

"We must look to the future and make this investment to help create the bio-science and high-tech corridor from Manhattan to Topeka to Lawrence to Kansas City," Roberts said in a prepared statement.

Well Senator Roberts and your group of non Lawrence residents I-70 pretty well covers that issue.

Also it seems our bunch of Christian Coalition Neocon Republicans over in Topeka are the most prominent obstacle to a bio science and high tech corridor. Their antics is what makes Kansas the laughing stock not a discussion over a few miles of roadway.

Dale Stringer 11 years, 9 months ago

As an non-Lawrence person, I have to ask, "What's all the whining about." Build the road. Just continue on from where you left K-10 off at and go east. You already have the bridge over US-59 (which at this time seems to be a useless waste of money) and there is already a dirt road to follow (N 1250 Road). All you have to do is figure out where to conect it to K-10 on the east side. Just to the east of E1750 Rd or at the E 1900 Rd would do.

GOPConservative 11 years, 9 months ago


Since we last communicated on another thread, I read the story about banning cell phones.

I feel the same way as you. I also agree with your sentiments on banning smoking and fireworks. I'm against big government repression. Bans are the wrong way to approach any problem.

One of the reasons I'm against bans is the costs to the taxpayer. Bans and more restrictive laws always result in more govenment costs. We already have too many regulators, inspectors, lawyers, jails, prosecutors, guards, police, etc. All that takes tax dollars, and I'm for lower taxes.

That's why I'm also I am against the taxpayer having to pay costs related to "growth" such as new roads, schools, sewer expansion, water system expansion, police, traffic lights, street lights, fire fighters, jails, etc. All this "growth" is costing us dearly.

By putting their proxies on the City and County Commissions, speculators and developers have essentially ripped off our tax dollars. Our taxes have gone up ten times while inflation has gone up only two.

The Commissioners have refused to protect the taxpayers by making the developers pay more of these costs. Our taxes have gone up astronomically just so bedroomers from Kansas City can have more favorable pricing on their new houses in Lawrence.

Now these newcomers want us to shell out even more so they can save ten minutes in their commute.

I can't see spending another $200 million on this boondoggle, even if most of it comes from the Feds. The waste and corruption through tax policy in Lawrence is even worse at the Federal level. I'm for conservative fiscal policy at all levels of government.

I still proudly wear the label of Conservative Republican because I still believe in our principles. Unfortunately, being a Conservative Republican has come to be associated with waste, abuse, fraud, corruption, repression and fiscal irresponsibility.

If people are going to label themselves Conservative Republican, I believe they have a moral and ethical duty to be consistent with our values and principles.

We can't be against smoking bans and be in favor of the government spending hundreds of billions of dollars to keep someone from using a plant that grows wild.

We can't talk about limited government and be in favor of the NSA tracking our phone calls.

We can't talk about fiscal responsibility and be in favor of the largest deficits in American History.

We can't talk about lowering taxes and be in favor of special interests sucking up most of our tax dollars.

GOPConservative 11 years, 9 months ago

There are always alternatives that don't require require polarization of our community. Why can't the politicians see that?

For example, the smoking ban was unnecessary. That problem could have solved by changing air quality standards. Businesses would have had a choice. They could have installed state-of-the-art air filtration systems.

Instead of being banned, fireworks could have been allowed in certain areas the fire department could monitor.

Instead of banning cell phones, people should get tickets for being seen with a cell phone against the ear while driving. I don't care what one study showed, using headsets or speaker phones is no more distractive than talking with a passenger.

Instead of creating all this polarization in the community over the 32nd Street alignment, the bypass should go south of the river.

Sure, it would cost a little more but probably not nearly as much all the delay has caused.

We must never forget that the delay was caused by those who have been trying to change the established south-of-the-river route all these years.

It was their decision to use backroom politics to change the route. That is what caused the delay. The SLT would have been completed years ago except for their tying to railroad this change. They are also the ones who have created all the polarization.

Yet, maybe the delay has been a good thing. Now that we have the advantage of being able see a future with high priced gasoline, maybe we shouldn't build a road on either route.

As the cost of fuel increases, fewer commuters will want to move to Lawrence. The ones who are already here will find local jobs, work out of their homes or move back to Johnson County.

We've already spent way too much on this boondoggle. Let's cut our losses and now start charging developers more for the costs that their shills on the Commissions have been shifting to the taxpayers.

That would not only increase City revenue, but also reduce costs. Once we start limiting the size and scope of government and make developers pay their own way, the City and County can lower our taxes!

Godot 11 years, 9 months ago

The doom and gloom, the pessimism, the whole attitude of surrender and settling for less, that defines liberalism. Liberals can try to co-opt the term "conservative," but they'll never be able to hide who they really are.

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 9 months ago

oh just build flying cars already and this is a done with:)

InfoHound 11 years, 9 months ago

Do none of you have a memory past yesterday?

Dead end in sight for trafficway KDOT: Road won't be done before 2012 -- if at all By Joel Mathis Thursday, September 30, 2004 LJ-W

Maybe never. But certainly no sooner than 2012.

That was a state highway official's prediction Wednesday for building the final leg of the long-controversial and long-uncompleted South Lawrence Trafficway.

"The easy answer is the worst-case scenario, that it will never be built," Sally Howard, chief counsel for Kansas Department of Transportation, told Lawrence and Douglas County officials when asked to estimate the SLT timeline.


conservative 11 years, 9 months ago


The person quoted there is still with the agency. Her she is quoted again just recently in the LJ World.

Sally Howard, chief counsel for KDOT, told city and county leaders this morning that her agency remained committed to building the road along a route through the Baker Wetlands north of the river. Howard said she was aware that a majority of city commissioners was now lobbying to have the road built south of the river, but she said there was still strong support for the 32nd Street route, which has received approval from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

"We are not going to just sit back and wait until we have consensus," Howard said. "If we do that, we might as well not go forward at all. If we had the funds, we would begin construction immediately."

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 9 months ago

how about one very long bridge over the area, min. amount of intusion and he** lot more money? We could have the guy from japan come do a study and work it all out. maybe put us in a good light instead of bad all the time. And not your normal lawrence bridge,ugly and not streamline enough.

Mike Blur 11 years, 9 months ago

Now you're talkin, Momma, something that at least the construction interests would be in favor of. Howzabout a bridge double-decking 23rd street, right on top of 23rd from the West Lawrence Truckway to Harper Street (and maybe beyond--past that East Hills Bidness Park turnoff)? It would be limited access, of course--with on and off ramps only limited to Iowa Street, so all that ded-blasted truck traffic can whiz quickly through town. It's not as far fetched as it seems--probably will cost $500-800 million, but with the federal government's current policy of reckless spending and mortgaging everyone's future, I'm sure we can get them to cover the bill. Heck, turn the 23rd Street Truckway (my name for this project) into a low-priced tollway? There'd be quite a few Lawrencians of all stripes willing to pay a buck just to cruise the top deck and take in the sights. (Trucks with more than two axles would be exempt from toll charges, as the 23rd Street Truckway was built for them in the first place.) We could even build it faux-suspension style...I'm sure we could garner tourists from all over Middle America.

Believe you me, seriously, I have actually thought about this before. Thanks for allowing me to uncover a dust covered though from the not-so distant past.

It wont happen, however--the "wetlands SLT" is the penultimate cream dream of the friends and family of Bob Billings, and they will plow ahead (literally and figuratively) with their poorly concieved, and ultimately destined to fail 32nd Street SLT.

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 9 months ago

well not sure of the double decker, keep thinking about san fransico quake night mares. But cost wise as much as we have already spent on studies, courts and all the other crap seems almost equal. I just do not see any happy end to any of this and so no longer have hope for any of it. but I do like the bridge but it really has to be a very cool one of a kind.

Charles L. Bloss, Jr. 11 years, 9 months ago

I will be greatly surprised, after watching this for 20 years, if it ever gets built. This is a better dog and pony show than they have Tijuana. Thank you, Lynn

Shardwurm 11 years, 9 months ago

I say we build the bypass and allow no-limit hunting in the wetlands.

Mike Blur 11 years, 9 months ago

whaddya gonna do with a bag of salamanders and frogs, Shard? Open a French restaurant? What kind of commie are ya! :)

elwaytd4td 11 years, 9 months ago

I'd really just like to see them do something with 31st street at this point. Or is that just a dream too?

Scott Drummond 11 years, 9 months ago

"I love how you refute my points Bozo.

"Just click your heels three times"

Is that really the best you can come up with? It reminds me of the other time I pointed out how negative you are about everything and if you didn't like it to change it or leave or just plain shut up and all you could do was call me a simplistic twit."

OK, how about a little fact called the Dark Ages? Despite your assertion to the contrary, humanity does not march ever forward. As demonstrated by the Dark Ages, there are periods in which rational thought and reason take a dive and the forces of reaction and superstition and so forth take over. Some might say that in many ways we seem to have entered a sort of mini-Dark Ages in this country during the last 20 years of so, but that is probably a topic for another day. In any event, your assertion that mankind always improves is demonstrably wrong and it is entirely possible, given a collapse of our oil-based, mobile economy, that we could enter a severe period of Depression much like happened in this area in the 1930's. May or may not be likely, but it is a possibility.

Scott Drummond 11 years, 9 months ago


My hat is off to you. My politics are a weird mish-mash of many things, but have a good deal of tree-hugging nature loving and (God help me!) leftist leanings. Nevertheless, I found myself shouting approval of your posts above as I read them. The truth, when finally spoken, has the ability to ring out above the nonsense and propaganda that seems to pass for political discourse and your message does so powerfully and unabashedly. People with your sort of intellectual honesty will help to lead the way out of the mess made by inferiors. And your call to arms to reclaim and insist on the ideals of true conservative thought is honestly refreshing, as well. You are to be commended for a powerful message.

Scott Drummond 11 years, 9 months ago

And my final thought for the evening:

Why not just take whatever amount of money this boondoogle is expected to cost and offer it to the mucky-mucks at the Turnpike Authority as a flat out bribe to move all turnpike authority to the west of the West Lawrence interchange. Improbable, I know, but it bears reminding from time to time that we have a road that makes a bee-line between Kansas City and Topeka, yet we discourage it use to prop up an quasi-governmental agency whose usefulness is long since been extinguished. Find a way to defeat the Turnpike monopoly and remove the tolls and the entire SLT issue becomes more or less meaningless.

Richard Heckler 11 years, 9 months ago

Now if only this amount of energy and interest would be directed at the powers that be to bring jobs and wages for the highly skilled and college educated population of Lawrence,Kansas. It is time to put the pressue on whomever is responsible for seeking out higher wages with benefits employment. Perhaps 50% of those 12,000-15,000 commuters would love to give it up if only comparable employment could be secured in Lawrence, Kansas.

If there is one thing Lawrence does not need it is more low paying jobs.

monkeyhawk 11 years, 9 months ago

merrill, you are so simplistic. When you see you are about to lose the battle, you change the subject.

Looks to me like the highly skilled and educated have absolutely no problem finding employment - elsewhere. After four - six years in this looney bin complete with bans and roundabouts, most of them I talk to cannot wait to exit and never look back. You are among the people they can thank for that.

And...they would never embrace a life in your light industrial factory.

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 9 months ago

if you can build a bridge to nowhere we can build one on BAKERS wetlands. nice cool one of a kind and get law. in the news for something other than bans. Oh and lawsuitd that last 20 yrs.

Dale Stringer 11 years, 9 months ago

Well if you are never going to use the bridge that is already over US-59, then I'll buy it for a dollar. It looks to have a nice view over south Lawrence. I think I would build a bar and grill there and call it "Wasted Space".

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 9 months ago

no I want a new bridge these old kansas ones are ugly.

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