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Checking in on whether Lawrence plans to submit Amazon bid, and dreaming of what it would look like just east of here

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As Amazon looks for a new corporate headquarters, what the giant retailer needs to know about Lawrence is that we are here to help, the city’s top economic development official told me recently.

I already understand helping Amazon, although I’m still not sure it was a good idea to make Alexa my financial adviser. (She swears these 100,000 DVD copies of the “Baywatch” movie will be a good investment.)

But, of course, we’re talking about a project with much higher stakes. Amazon is looking for a site for a second headquarters that could employ up to 50,000 people in a few years. Both Kansas City and state of Kansas economic development officials have said they are going after the project aggressively.

What caught my eye, though, was St. Joseph, Mo. Much like Lawrence, it is on the edge of the Kansas City region. Economic development officials there recently made a big deal out of having a pair of sites that it wants Amazon to consider for its headquarters location.

I think the tech world might start checking the warranties of a few microchips if St. Joe becomes the headquarters for one of the world’s most powerful tech companies. (St. Joe should already be the economic king of the world. It makes the world’s best candy: Chase’s Cherry Mash.)

But I got to thinking that if St. Joe is submitting sites, I wonder if Lawrence is, too. Steve Kelly, vice president of economic development for the Lawrence chamber of commerce, said Lawrence isn’t doing anything that formal. But the community is very much interested in Amazon coming to the Kansas City region. He thinks KU would play a large role in that project and so too might Lawrence’s housing market.

“Lawrence is the type of town that can produce the employees Amazon needs,” Kelly said. “I see Amazon employees as bright, youthful, technology savvy. Those are the types of people who are attracted to Lawrence.”

This Sept. 6, 2012, file photo, shows the Amazon logo. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon, File)

This Sept. 6, 2012, file photo, shows the Amazon logo. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon, File)

KU, of course, could end up being a major resource for training engineers and other tech workers for the company. Kelly, who previously worked on landing big projects with the Kansas Department of Commerce, said the labor issue is most likely the top issue on the mind of Amazon leaders.

Technically, Amazon has said it is willing to consider sites as small as 100 acres for the project. That seems really small for such a large project. The thought that has gone through my mind is I wonder if the company would consider a site as large as 9,000 acres? The area kind of, sort of has one to offer: the former Sunflower Army Ammunition Plant, which is just on the other side of the Douglas County line near De Soto.

No one I have talked to has any insight into what sites Kansas City or Kansas economic development leaders may submit to Amazon. But it would be hard to think of one more unique than the Sunflower site. It is so large that Amazon could actually build its city of the future on the property. (Think drones delivering bags of Doritos and Cherry Mashes.) Amazon leader Jeff Bezos is an innovative and futuristic guy. I wonder if that type of canvas would be enticing to him?

For what it is worth, a De Soto leader said he’s gotten no wind that any such proposal is in the works.

“But if Amazon is asking about us, give them my number,” De Soto City Administrator Mike Brungardt said. “I have a red carpet in the closet that I could roll out real quick.”

But Brungardt said developing on Sunflower property is still pretty complicated. Parts of the property have major environmental cleanup issues, and the amount of federal red tape involved with that cleanup has been tough for the property’s owner, Sunflower Redevelopment LLC, to deal with since it purchased the site in 2005.

Large amounts of the property are clean. Many of those sites are on the northern edge along Kansas Highway 10. But as leaders planned for the redevelopment of the property years ago, they put a condition on future development: The entire site must be cleaned up before any of the property can be developed.

Brungardt said he can see some logic in that. You don’t want a developer cherry-picking all the good sites and never cleaning up the bad sites. But Brungardt said it might be time to rethink that strategy, as it becomes clear that the Sunflower property may still be more than a decade away from being cleaned.

“We want to quit the hand-wringing and try to enact some change there,” Brungardt said.

A 9,000-acre site, all controlled by one entity, in prosperous western Johnson County is the type of asset that could be a game-changer, even for a community as far away as Lawrence. (It is about 15 miles from downtown Lawrence.)

Johnson County officials have a plan for a “Community in a Park” to develop at the site. Think houses, research facilities, high-tech firms, some commercial development all surrounded by a large ring of green space. Brungardt said it may be time to look at that plan too.

“It is a fine plan, and we wouldn’t have a problem with it,” Brungardt said. “But there is a reason the Army built an industrial complex there. It is good industrial property.”

As for Lawrence and Amazon, Kelly said his office would continue to stay in contact with officials at the Kansas City Area Development Council and the Kansas Department of Commerce, which are expected to play key roles in any proposal that is submitted to Amazon.

Comments

Bob Forer 2 months, 3 weeks ago

If amazon came to kansas city, lawrence would see an increase in.taxes with no accompanying benefit. Numerous studies have sbown that residential development further burdens the tax base.

Clark Coan 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Ain't going to happen. Corporate executives want to live in areas with a high quality of life. Kansas does not have beaches or mountains and now has a bad reputation due to Brownback and Kobach.

Rick Masters 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Maybe we should build a resort at Clinton Lake so people can kayak on a fake river. Suits love that stuff.

Bob Smith 2 months, 3 weeks ago

They'd take one look at the snake pit of no-growthers in Lawrence and hit the trail to a more welcoming community.

Michael Kort 2 months, 3 weeks ago

When I think about the Sunflower Odinance Plant I think of that as a site for Johnson County International Airport....... assuming that KCMO does nothing with KCI in upcoming elections...........opening the door for a private developer airport in JO CO .

KCI is 10,680 acres or 1,600 bigger than the Sunflower site .

As one big piece of land you would have to do a cleanup to do it but you wouldn't have to fight with holdout land owners who can drag you out as interest rates raise .

Even if it costs them more for the land, Amazon would be better off being closer to the outer edge of central JOCO .......Olathe or Lenexa

Lots of things are important but so is locating close enough to a work force, highway's and housing stocks for employees.............I doubt that Amazon is not able to afford to locate anywhere that they want to pay to locate and choosing evolves thinking things thru as I am sure that they will .

Mark Kostner 2 months, 3 weeks ago

 Careful what you wish for. A direct hit from an EF 5 tornado wouldn't impact Lawrence like Amazon 2nd HQ would. Amazon alone would generate at least 50,000 jobs. Lawrence would evolve into a city of million people and the KC/Lawrence/Topeka would be a blur of cities and will be footing the bills for new schools, transit, roads, and utilities. Lawrence would become a rich man's town like Boulder or Santa Barbara. If Amazon came at all, I could see Olathe or Lenexa housing it near the I-35/435/K-10 junction where there are also a couple of rail lines where a mass transit line could be built. Amazon would build their 21st century company town with offices, shopping, housing and entertainment there or downtown Kansas City where Amazon could take over and rebuild the great American city in their image. Unless the state mortgaged Kansans futures and paid off Amazon to come(they wouldn't do that would they?) Amazon would most likely land in a place like Denver, Orlando, maybe Austin or Nashville, even Las Vegas, places with mountains or beaches or music or exciting nightlife. After all if an ambitious exec from Seattle was told he or she was being transferred to Kansas what do you think their reaction would be right now?
 If the JCI Airport is built, Lawrence will get some growth from that, this Animal Health Corridor looks promising, or more spin off growth from KU. The one thing they could sell Amazon on is the Kmart Distribution Center. That company is riding on fumes and Lawrence needs to plan for its future. Lawrence should be the size of its peer university towns and if you go much much past that you risk destroying what you love about the place

Carol Bowen 2 months, 3 weeks ago

I agree that Lawrence is not prepared for something as large as Amazon. If Amazon did not build within the city limits, Lawrence would be overwhelmed with the demands of Amazon employees living here. Industry pays at a greater tax rate than residential. If we don’t have the industry’s revenue, residents will have to pick up the slack. We would be a very large bedroom community. Bedroom communities are not self sustaining. Our taxes would go up.

There is an outside chance that Amazon is seriously considering this area. AT&T located in cities. IBM preferred more rural settings. Our location is in the exact continental center of the U.S. Let see what Amazon will do.

Carol Bowen 2 months, 3 weeks ago

“KU, of course, could end up being a major resource for training engineers and other tech workers for the company. ”

I’ve never heard of a university referred to as a source for training. Education, yes. Internships, yes. Training happens in community colleges and VoTech schools.

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