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Downtown Lawrence set to become plastic cup capital

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Somewhere last night, a toast was made to Lawrence city commissioners. Downtown Lawrence will not become the home of Pinot Grigio in a plastic cup or Grey Goose from a red tumbler. As part of the city discussion about changing sidewalk dining regulations, the suggestion had been made that all glass drinking ware should be banned from both current and future sidewalk seating areas. The suggestion came from the Lawrence Police Department, which often has dealt with a beer bottle turning into a projectile or a John Wayne razor. But such a ban also would mean a glass of wine at any one of several downtown restaurants would have to be served in a plastic or paper cup to outdoor diners.Surely that would land us on Snob Magazine's Top 10 places to avoid. (No, I really don't know if there is a Snob Magazine. Chances are its subscription is so exclusive that I wouldn't know.)But ultimately, city commissioners backed away slightly from an outright glass ban. Guess they couldn't remember the last time they'd seen a good brawl fueled by a Cabernet Sauvignon. (But if one were to occur, it likely would go like this: Chip to Dale: "This Cabernet Sauvignon has a wonderful hint of black currant." Dale to Chip: "Your palate, sir, is a disgrace. That is blackberry as sure as my watch is a Rolex." It then "would be on," as the hoodlums say.)Sorry about that digression. I blog, therefore I digress. Here's the compromise commissioners came up with. Places that make at least 55 percent of their sales from food will be able to provide outdoor customers with glass bottles and glass drinkware in the sidewalk seating areas. But traditional bars will not be able to have either bottles or glassware in their sidewalk seating areas. Also, cans won't be allowed in bar sidewalk areas. I hadn't thought of it, but a full can also can be a formidable projectile, I was told by city leaders. Commissioners said they didn't want to punish ordinary diners who had shown no problems with properly using a bottle or glass. But they said they did want to be cautious in what they allowed bar patrons to bring outside. So, what do you think of this two-tiered system? Is the bottle half-full or the cup half-empty? It beats me, but I do know this: If KU alums really do return to Lawrence to relive their youth, Pabst in a plastic cup ought to do the trick for many.

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not_holroyd 5 years, 8 months ago

Hawk doesn't like the City Commissioners. He doesn't like the County Commissioners. He doesn't like the School Board members. He doesn't like Homeless Shelters. He doesn't like the Chamber. He doesn't like industrial development Districts. He doesn't like downtown sidewalk dining. He doesn't like zoning. He doesn't like roundabouts. He doesn't like the bus system. He doesn't like neighborhoods. He doesn't like the neighborhood system. He really really really doesn't like some lady by the name of Marjene. He doesn't like tax abatements, except when they benefit his area in the 1200 block of Louisiana. He doesn't like friendly dogs. He doesn't like flowers. He doesn't like tax-paid improvements to the University. He doesn't like private gifts to the University. He doesn't like the University. He doesn't like Metamucil.In fact, there is little in life he likes. So why does he continue to live here? Why does he post here? He did admit to enjoying Viagra presumably while watching City Commission meetings for his release.I go back to the option of Decatur, Rawlins, Trego, Wallace, Scott, Greeley Counties as some of many places he could move to. He could sell his underappraised and undertaxed properties at a hefty profit, steal his FAIR tax contributions from the rest of us, and leave us, and stop complaining about all the things he does not like. It would reduce the electrons spent on these forums by 20%, but that would save CO2. Kansas has lots of dirt. Including the Pine farm. Let Hawk get out there were he is not restrained by the social requirements of living next to a University, while he thinks he lives on the Scott-City-township-grade.It solves so many issues.Why does not Hawk not see these opportunities?No river?

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hawkperchedatriverfront 5 years, 8 months ago

The plastic cups will float down to the storm sewer easier and then to the river. You should write a note on each one and when it gets to the Mississippi, the folks in New Orleans can redeem it for a trip to Lawrence. Make Lawrence a sister city to New Orleans and instead of homing pigeons, communicate with plastic cups. This town is so dumb and unimaginative.China, please do not ship anymore 40watt bulbs to Lawrence. We need light, send 100 watt minimum!

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 5 years, 8 months ago

And on the really hot days... wine on a stick!( of course, there's always the bombed pop for the commoner palates )

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alm77 5 years, 8 months ago

intro, most of the bars recycle bottles, what makes you think they won't recycle the plastic cups? They'd be easier to recycle I would think. They're stackable and won't break.

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introversion 5 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, lets forward the use of disposable cups and take a step backwards in material conservation. Forget plastic, lets go all the way and just use styrofoam.

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Chad Lawhorn 5 years, 8 months ago

In regards to the question about whether this would apply to the back porches and other outdoor areas of downtown bars, no, it wouldn't. It also is worth noting that bars that have a back deck or other outdoor area won't be allowed to apply for a sidewalk seating area. Commissioners said they were only interested in opening sidewalk seating for those bars that had no other option for providing outdoor seating. Chad Lawhorn

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Drew Alan 5 years, 8 months ago

so does this go for the back porch at Louise's?

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Confrontation 5 years, 8 months ago

To some women with carefully planned and executed hairdos, a plastic cup of any liquid could be a major weapon. Have you even seen a woman get her weave wet? You can't handle that kind of drama on Mass. Street.

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classclown 5 years, 8 months ago

John Wayne razor? Admit it. You just made that up while writing this blog didn't you?

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