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More than 20 guns stolen from rural home

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¢ The Douglas County Sheriff's Office is looking for leads in the theft of more than $16,000 worth of guns from a home in the 800 section of East 1259 Road. A 57-year-old man who lives there reported more than 20 guns- including target pistols, semiautomatic pistols, shotguns, and rifles - stolen from various parts of the home between 7:15 a.m. and 4 p.m. Sept. 22, but the sheriff's office didn't release a report of the case until today.The means of entry to the home is still under investigation.Sheriff's spokeswoman Lt. Kari Wempe asked anyone with information to call the department at 841-0007 or the anonymous CrimeStoppers hotline at 843-TIPS.¢ In another rural burglary, $2,145 worth of tools and construction equipment were stolen between Sept. 28 and 29 from a home under construction in the 1600 section of North 1500 Road, according to the sheriff's office.Other crimes:¢ An employee of Jayhawk Food mart, 701 W. 9th St., reported that an unknown person damaged an office door and stole $9,000 cash and $2,000 worth of cigarettes between 2 p.m. Monday and 2 p.m. Tuesday. ¢ A 19-year-old woman living in the 4000 block of Overland Drive was booked into jail at 10:54 p.m. Thursday night for aggravated assault. According to a report, a 49-year-old family member told police he threatened her with a knife or sharp object around 8:30 p.m. Thursday.¢ An unknown person broke a window Monday evening at the Maharishi Enlightenment Center, 2121 Kasold Dr., in a burglary. It caused $500 damage, but nothing was stolen. ¢ A 68-year-old woman says her 1997 Mitsubishi worth $2,000 was stolen Sept. 18 from the 1500 block of Mass. She didn't report it to police until Thursday.- Contributed by [Eric Weslander.][1] [1]: http://www2.ljworld.com/staff/eric_weslander

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as_I_live_and_breathe 8 years, 2 months ago

"Doubt it, but would you feel guilty if your gun was used to kill someone?"

Absolutly not. I would hope that the killer would get the death penalty and I would get my gun back...My dad had 88 in his collection.

Also, I am not a crack head or a criminal and I love to shop at pawn shops.

audvisartist 8 years, 2 months ago

20 guns and not a single person was home to shoot the burlgar with one of them. Damn shame!

kmat 8 years, 2 months ago

This is why any moron that thinks they need a stock pile of weapons needs a darn gun safe. How stupid does one have to be to have guns all over your home, unsecured? Now thanks to this moron, 20 more weapons are in the hands of a criminal.

Kontum1972 8 years, 2 months ago

somebody knew this dude had those weapons just laying around his home unsecured....i think this "gun nut" needs to do some time in the can, esp. if someone gets blown away with one of his guns...accessory to the crime...

lisabeth2002 8 years, 2 months ago

¢ A 19-year-old woman living in the 4000 block of Overland Drive was booked into jail at 10:54 p.m. Thursday night for aggravated assault. According to a report, a 49-year-old family member told police he threatened her with a knife or sharp object around 8:30 p.m. Thursday.

Anybody else see something wrong with this story??

KaraGourley 8 years, 2 months ago

lisabeth, i thought the same thing when i read that.... read it a couple times to make sure i wasnt reading it wrong.

hum... what is the real story.

TtownKUlivin 8 years, 2 months ago

Definitely something wrong with that story. The suspect was a 19 year old woman, but in the report becomes a "he". Can I get some clarification?

Aiko 8 years, 2 months ago

So, if someone breaks into your house and steals all of your steak knives then they kill a person and/or persons then you are you responsible? "Accessory to the crime" ? That is ridiculous!

chzypoof1 8 years, 2 months ago

Kontum, you are funny. It's definitely that guy's fault that someone broke into his home and stole his firearms. Please see Aiko's post for clarification.....

Aiko 8 years, 2 months ago

" Please see Aiko's post for clarification..... What?

alm77 8 years, 2 months ago

lisabeth, I think the guy threatened her and she later assaulted him. I don't know that for sure, that's just how it reads to me. It happened right in front of my house, but I don't know my new neighbors, so I can't give you any definate clarification.

classclown 8 years, 2 months ago

It's also likely the LJW got him and her mixed up in the story. Their reporting and editing has been found wanting on several occasions. Too much of a hurry to get the "ground breaking news" out I guess.

mom_of_three 8 years, 2 months ago

20 guns from various parts of the house tells me that perhaps this man is a collector who had the guns displayed all around his home. (at least I hope so). My step dad had his guns locked in a gun cabinet at his house, and someone broke in and stole those (and nothing else) a couple of years back. He now has a gun safe.

geekin_topekan 8 years, 2 months ago

Maybe the guy who stole the guns will come around to Overland drive and shoot them both. That would be news.

kmat 8 years, 2 months ago

chzypoof1 and Aiko - take a moment to think about this. Guns are deadly weapons that require permits and are supposed to be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE people. Anyone that is going to have a gun in their home MUST secure that weapon. How do most guns end up in the hands of criminals? They are stolen from people that aren't smart enough to secure their weapons.

I have no problem with guns (even though I won't have any in my home) as long as they are taken care of properly. We need laws to insure that anyone that is't smart enough to secure their weapons also pays the price. There's a good reason for a gun safe. Criminals, children, etc.... can't get to them.

And anyone with that many unsecured weapons in their home is just asking for trouble. My father has quite the collection (most are antique), and they are all secured in a gun case. A couple are mounted on the wall, but have been altered so they can't be fired. Unlike this moron, my father doesn't want anyone but him to have access to his weapons.

And there is a big difference between a steak knife and a gun. You're not going to kill someone 50 feet away with a steak knife.

Aiko 8 years, 2 months ago

What about a vehicle? That requires a permit.

Steve Jacob 8 years, 2 months ago

FYI... Leonard W. Price did not have a gun until he stole them from a country house. After that he killed Clarence David Boose with it. Enough said.

jasontgray 8 years, 2 months ago

It's not one criminal with 20 guns I'm worried about, it's 20 criminals with one gun each.

Aiko 8 years, 2 months ago

So did the owner of the country house go to jail?

geekin_topekan 8 years, 2 months ago

When homes are outlawed,only outlaws will have homes.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 8 years, 2 months ago

Most likely this guy had a lot of sporting guns. I doubt that his collection had very many concealable weapons. The thieves are likely trying to sell them, which will probably get them caught.

Yeah, it seems like common sense to have some sort of way to secure that many guns. Of course, if the house was unoccupied all day long, even a gun safe could be stolen if not bolted down.

Bud Stagg 8 years, 2 months ago

you need a permit to own a gun? I thought it was just to carry one???

If you follow the logic on this page the following may be true:

If you have a child and that child grows up to kill someone, you should go to jail.

If someone steals your car and kills someone while drunk, the theif, you, the automaker, the alcohol distributer, the bar owner, the distiller, and used car salesman should all go to jail.

Wait, wait one more... If someone steals your car, drives through a roundabout too fast and kills someone, who is going to jail?

By the way, I know people who can kill someone with a steak knife from 50 feet away.

Sigmund 8 years, 2 months ago

I am sure the Maharishi Enlightenment Center will use this vandalism as an opportunity to develop their inner genius, enliven their body's inner intelligence and open their awareness to the infinite reaches of human potential.

Me, I'd just be p'ed off!

lisabeth2002 8 years, 2 months ago

ljreader, Nothing has to be stolen to be classified as a burglary. Burglary is simply entering a home or other structure for the purpose of commiting a crime.

Steve Jacob 8 years, 2 months ago

"So did the owner of the country house go to jail?"

Doubt it, but would you feel guilty if your gun was used to kill someone?

GetItRight 8 years, 2 months ago

"¢ A 19-year-old woman living in the 4000 block of Overland Drive was booked into jail at 10:54 p.m. Thursday night for aggravated assault. According to a report, a 49-year-old family member told police he threatened her with a knife or sharp object around 8:30 p.m. Thursday."

You would think the newspaper has editors...

But, you don't have to rely on the newspaper for information. There are other news outlets. But first and foremost, if you want info direct from the police, they post reports online. See for yourself....

http://165.201.87.131/CIF/CIF/reports.php

Click on today's report brief...and note the police report says scissors, not knife or sharp object.

classclown 8 years, 2 months ago

Posted by lisabeth2002 (anonymous) on October 6, 2006 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ljreader, Nothing has to be stolen to be classified as a burglary. Burglary is simply entering a home or other structure for the purpose of commiting a crime.

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I thought that was known as illegal entry. Or breaking and entering. And burglary was getting robbed without the necessity of your presence.

BlackVelvet 8 years, 2 months ago

"chzypoof1 and Aiko - take a moment to think about this. Guns are deadly weapons that require permits and are supposed to be in the hands of RESPONSIBLE people. Anyone that is going to have a gun in their home MUST secure that weapon. How do most guns end up in the hands of criminals? They are stolen from people that aren't smart enough to secure their weapons."

since more people are killed by automobiles than guns, I guess then if someone steals your CAR and kills someone with it, since your CAR wasn't locked in a SAFE, then YOU get to go to PRISON??

classclown 8 years, 2 months ago

Okay I looked it up and burglary has been expanded from what it once was. As lisabeth2002 said, it is breaking into basically any place or vehicle with the intent to commit a crime.

roger_o_thornhill 8 years, 2 months ago

It is too bad that there are so many unscrupulous pawn brokers (and other folks) around. Most of those guns have probably already been sold. I'm sure the "perp" would keep at least one for future "jobs".

The story on Overland is confusing, but not surprising. There are way too many people living on that block and it gets pretty hoody as a result. Not always, but it is one of those areas where the neighbors turn over almost every year.

Every story is an example of why people should need a permit to have children. Just because you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

The JFM story is also confusing. Between 2pm Monday and 2pm Tuesday? Couldn't they narrow it down? Unknown? If it happened during business hours, I would be a bit suspicious of the person(s) working between those times.

BlueRoom 8 years, 2 months ago

"A 19-year-old woman living in the 4000 block of Overland Drive was booked into jail at 10:54 p.m. Thursday night for aggravated assault. According to a report, a 49-year-old family member told police he threatened her with a knife or sharp object around 8:30 p.m. Thursday." i'm confused~ok, the woman was booked when he threatened her with a knife? why wasn't he the one to be booked?

Baille 8 years, 2 months ago

Expanded from what it once was?

"Burglary, at common law, was the trespassory breaking and entering of the dwelling of another at night with an intent to commit a felony therein. It is an offense against possession and habitation. The common-law elements of the offense have been modified in most jurisdictions by statutes that tend to make the crime less restrictive."

Berserk 8 years, 2 months ago

Pawn"brokers"... Hah!

More like Perveyors of stolen property. Pawnshops just add fuel to the fire, if there weren't as many "you steal it, we'll buy it" shops around, there wouldn't be nearly as many theft crimes.

"Pawnbrokers do NOT knowingly deal in stolen proerty!" (first, spelling...)

If somone is at a pawn shop, it's stolen. Criminals & crackheads sell and buy from pawn shops. No-one else. With the adventation of EBay, pawn shops are in the process of extinction, with the exception of thier own criminal activities.

Your so-called "broker" never bothers to ask wether or not it's stolen, and when they suspect they have freshly stolen goods, they don't put them out on the floor for a while, they stay in back untill after the police have had a chance to ask if anyone has seen or bought "such & such" stolen property.

To me, your precious pawn shop is no less guilty than the thief who broke in and stole it. In fact I think you're more guilty!

1. YOU KNOW IT'S STOLEN! (Don't bother with a rebuttal, it would just be another LIE)

2. You're paying a thief to go out and steal some more.

3. Witholding information about a criminal case, letting the crooks go.

4. Profiting from criminal activity.

°PWND°

Berserk

Berserk 8 years, 2 months ago

Whoa... little sore spot there Marion.

Such a wonderful rebuttal, since the Modesto police department has so much to do with us here in Kansas... first thing that popped up on your Google search?

Pawn shop crook.

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