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KC Star also declines to return documents

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Citing concerns for protecting a whistleblower, the Kansas City Star today said [it too would not return the Kansas University documents][1] sent to area media outlets.Editor Mark Zieman told his newspaper that university officials would be allowed to review the documents to confirm their authenticity and to attempt to fix the problem. The Journal-World [adopted a similar stance][2] yesterday. Zieman pointed out that sometimes the press is the last resort for people who feel frustrated by a bureaucracy."We have an obligation to our readers to fully report this story. And we have an obligation to the students whose records were mishandled to make certain those documents remain private and are properly destroyed," Zieman said to the Star. [1]: http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/282763-p2.html [2]: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/sep...

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Curtis Lange 6 years, 7 months ago

Trash isnt private once it's set out on the curb, yes. However, the original article states the documents were found in a recycle container IN the math department. If you came into my house to go through my trash, that IS illegal. Either way, the correct thing to do is to give the documents back to the university. None of this, 'we're gonna hold the papers til we feel like throwing them away' deal that is going on.

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oldgoof 6 years, 7 months ago

This was the lead news today? Oh the horror.

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Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

How can anyone prove that those documents were not recovered from a locked bin intended for shredding? After all, some of the employees making the claim are from the recycling center. The story should not be about "whistleblowers," it should be about KU students and employees who are in possession of documents they are not authorized to have, and there should be an investigation into how they obtained the documents.

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JSpizias 6 years, 7 months ago

As the last two posts above note , KU would appear to have no right to claim disgarded trash.

I tried for years to get KU to assign employees a number rather than using social security numbers for identification. They apparently weren't particularly concerned. I hope this policy has been changed but I bet it hasn't.

From a posting on Volokh.com http://www.volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_05_13-2007_05_19.shtml See Commonwealth v. Ewing, 67 Mass.App.Ct. 531, 540, 854 N.E.2d 993 (no expectation of privacy in cigarette butts abandoned as trash in interview room), further appellate review granted, 447 Mass. 1113, 857 N.E.2d 1094 (2006). See also Commonwealth v. Pratt, 407 Mass. 647, 660-661, 555 N.E.2d 559 (1990) (observations and inspections occurring after items deposited in public places generally fail to intrude upon reasonable expectation of privacy);

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booze_buds_03 6 years, 7 months ago

Recovering Documents from a trash can is not considered theft. They become public just as the police can search your trash on the curb without a search warrant. I applaud the people who brought this to light. Shame on KU for not fixing the problem the first or second time.

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toefungus 6 years, 7 months ago

Actually, trash in a bin is not private property any more. The administration at KU is in disarray after years of neglect from the Chancellor. Happy dumpster diving!

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Curtis Lange 6 years, 7 months ago

Trash or not, those documents are still property of KU. If the media feels like they are doing the right thing, which they are not, then the documents should have been destroyed already.

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Keith 6 years, 7 months ago

And you have an obligation to return stolen property that was given to you. Oh, but you say you can make certain those documents remain private? How?

Stolen from where? The trash?

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compmd 6 years, 7 months ago

"And we have an obligation to the students whose records were mishandled to make certain those documents remain private and are properly destroyed,"

And you have an obligation to return stolen property that was given to you. Oh, but you say you can make certain those documents remain private? How?

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