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No concealed carry in Lawrence schools

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Teachers and staff in the Lawrence school district will not be allowed to carry firearms on school property, even if they have a concealed permit.

That was the word from school board president Vanessa Sanburn who said the district would not change its weapons policy, despite passage of a new state law that would allow teachers and other employees with permits to carry firearms.

On April 16, Gov. Sam Brownback signed HB 2052 which, among other things, requires municipal governments to allow people with permits to carry concealed weapons into public buildings, unless those buildings have metal detectors or other security measures to prevent anyone from bringing weapons inside.

The law is mandatory for city, county and state buildings (except the Statehouse itself). Public schools are not required to allow concealed carry, but school districts may allow licensed employees to carry concealed handguns if they choose to do so.

After four years, the law will also apply to university buildings.

Sanburn said during Monday's board meeting that she had received several phone calls and emails from people asking whether teachers in Lawrence would be allowed to carry concealed weapons.

She said the board had no intention of changing its current policy, which prohibits anyone other than a law enforcement officer to possess a weapon, "in or on any school property, school grounds, or any district building or structure used for student instruction or attendance or extracurricular activities of pupils, or at any regularly scheduled school sponsored activity or event."

That prohibition includes concealed weapons, even if the person has a legal permit.

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    Centerville 11 months, 3 weeks ago

    Let me guess: Lawrence school children aren't as worthy of protection as are the children of our beloved rulers. Right?

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    juma 11 months, 3 weeks ago

    I agree with Tanya; what about the idiot who shot his wife in the restaurant. Accidents can kill. What is the follow-up story LJW? Did this piece of s... get to keep his CC? He is the poster boy for CC rights.

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    Armored_One 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    So what would be the legal reasoning behind preventing a student that is of the age of majority, in possession of a firearm and has received all the "proper" training from bringing said weapon to school?

    Seems to me that it would be infringing on that student's Second Amendment rights. I mean, honestly... if you are going to insist that this is an issue of rights, then it is an issue of everyone's rights, not just those that you approve.

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    Jason Johnson 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    So long as the schools don't have metal detectors, if you're conceal carrying properly, no one will know you have it. :)

    I imagine, then, that if the need warranted using it, you would probably be hailed a hero if you saved a bunch of children's lives.

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    oldbaldguy 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    sros were cut because there is no federal money to offset county/city funding for personnel.

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    GMom05 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    Their is a difference here that some people are mixing up. It is between Lawrence police officers (SRO-School Resource Officers) or Teachers carrying guns. This article says school teachers and staff will not carry guns. NOT that the police won't. SROs are not employees of the school district but of the Lawrence Police department. So, add the armed SRO Police officers in every school and there you have the protection called for and you haven't had to arm the teachers.

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    chzypoof1 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    Arguing this point isn't worth it. People that are against guns, will not change their views. Even if their children could be threatened, they won't change. Let's get a forum of the parents from Newtown and ask them if they would be ok with an armed SRO officer in their school now. I"m guessing most would say YES. 1 of the parents went before congress and testified that we need someone Armed in the schools, and his kid was shot.

    It's unfortunate that we've come to this point in our country, but we are here. The shooting in CT will not be the last one. Changing clips, guns, background checks won't stop it either. The guns are already out there. Defending yourself and your kids should be natural thinking, but it seems that logic is gone in this debate.

    I truly hope that my child, that goes to school in Lawrence, does not ever have to face this horrible reality. But I would feel a lot better knowing the SRO had a chance to defend them.

    poof

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    2manyshoes 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    I can see that. Lawrence public schools are like prisons these days. USD whatevernumber sure makes home-schooling very appealing.

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    Angela Heili 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    I agree that armed security is a good idea in schools, the problem is they don't have them in every school. They have them in the middle schools/junior highs and the high schools, but not the elementary schools. They need to hire security for the elementary schools and if they aren't willing to do that, the schools need some way of defending themselves against someone who may have a gun, otherwise you have the situation Newtown had. Had an armed security officer been there the outcome may have been very different.

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    Dayna Lee 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    I think a lot more time should be spent discussing guns with children. I don't think that concealed guns are going to make a difference. It's better to explain to children what happens when you choose to carry and especially use a gun. It would be nice if a cop and a military person taught a class with a discussion. It's important to allow for questions. Make sure you pay attention.

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    justanotherface 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    I see nothing wrong with school employees being able to conceal carry on the job. If a Lawrence school ever gets shot up, I don't want to hear people whining on these boards. Curling up in the fetal position under a desk isn't going to stop a bad guy with a gun. Only a good person with a gun will stop the bad guy with a gun. Common sense sheeple... And don't forget, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away!

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    GMom05 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    As I said, this is what SROs are for, not the teacher's role. Except funding is cut again so that Middle school's who used to have full time SROs now, have one part time and high schools get 3 1/2. Elementary get none. This article says only that teachers and staff won't be carrying guns, not the local Lawrence police, which the SROs are.

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    reality_check79 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    Every school should have an armed gaurd/SRO anytime kids are in the building. Not a fan of guns being in every classroom however, someone at the school should be armed. The officer or gaurd can keep the gun hidden or wear plain clothes as to not scare the kids but we live in a new time where people will do anything and it can happen anywhere.

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    In_God_we_trust 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    What it means is that the school is deciding to take on the liability of protecting the children from harm. If anything happens in a school, the schools are now liable for the damages.

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    Tanya Spacek 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    I keep thinking of that guy who accidentally shot his wife during dinner because he left the safety off.

    I work on a university campus. I can't figure out what would piss me off more, or which is more likely to happen: being shot randomly but on purpose by a crazed fellow human, or getting shot randomly but accidentally by an idiotic fellow human.

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    kernal 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    "....commit those who really should be committed." Agree, gnome, but the bigger question is where? As it stands now, the jails and prisons are becoming the new mental health facilities for 25% to 37%% of the prison population, depending on which prison or jail we're talking about. Most of them can't afford to provide any kind of treatment other than medication.

    This is an other conversation that needs to happen in this country.

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    bearded_gnome 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    She said the board had no intention of changing its current policy, which prohibits anyone other than a law enforcement officer to possess a weapon, "in or on any school property, school grounds, or any district building or structure used for student instruction or attendance or extracurricular activities of pupils, or at any regularly scheduled school sponsored activity or event."

    That prohibition includes concealed weapons, even if the person has a legal permit.

    ---mind rot! in our country we protect our politicians, our money, our athletes, all with people with guns. btw, the high school I graduated from was already an armed school many years ago, so what's the big deal!

    a lot of liberal hysteria! kids would actually be safer. the killers with guns do not respect the declaration of a "gun free zone."

    large magazine prohibition is useless, perp just brings a few more loaded guns or engineers his own. it only serves to prevent defense by the law abiding.

    the president's ideas would not have prevented Arora or Newtown.

    address mental health seriously, commit those who really should be committed.

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    bearded_gnome 11 months, 4 weeks ago

    so teachers are so irresponsible that they wouldn't secure their guns? they're that stupid? okay, good to know.q

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    GMom05 12 months ago

    Ridiculous! How long before some 10-year-old figures out where the teacher's gun is hidden and accidentally or on purpose shoots someone, just because it's there? Completely ignorant move to make guns MORE accessible to kids in schools. They are trained teachers, not law enforcement officers. That's what SRO's are for.

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    James Minor 12 months ago

    Since the NRA is against gun control they should pay for the additional protection needed in the schools. Arming teachers is not a solution to the gun problem. Controlling large magazine weapons is a step in the right direction. The Presidents ideas on gun control won't solve all the problems but will help America in the long run.

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    eugunieum 12 months ago

    Only students with guns in their backpacks are allowed to carry. Drugs, alcohol, knives, guns, etc.

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    greatgatsby 12 months ago

    Does this really surprise anyone? I mean really? I wish we could find someway to secure schools though. Gun proponent, which I am, or not, there's got to be something we can do that's going to halfway appease both sides and still keep the kids safe. Just wish I knew what it was.

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    basic101101 12 months ago

    Why not let a teacher with his CCW carry?Have a lockbox and a IWB holster and no one would even know...I mean come on,everyone has a right to protect themselves weather its some law or not....Its a human right,and that should be up to the individual not some committee or board....Come on teachers are supposed to be responsible,so whats the problem....Im only saying teachers too....They and police should be the only ones carrying on school grounds....

    "Dont blame a tool for something the operator used it for,thats like putting the blame on a fork because youre fat"

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    elliottaw 12 months ago

    Finally common sense is being used

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