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Current federal government shutdown similar to 2009 showdown in Kansas


Topeka — Republicans refuse to vote for an almost routine provision to fund government unless a Democratic chief executive approves their demands.

Sound familiar?

That's what happened in Kansas in 2009 between then-House Speaker Mike O'Neal, R-Hutchinson, and then-Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, a Democrat.

Led by O'Neal, Republican legislative leaders, including then-Senate President Steve Morris, R-Hugoton, refused to agree to issue inter-governmental loans to make state payments for payroll, public schools, health and income tax refunds.

The Republicans said they would sign off on $225 million in what are called certificates of indebtedness, if Sebelius would sign into law deep budget cuts.

Republicans said they couldn't approve the certificates because without approval of the budget rescission bill, the state ledger would be out of balance. Sebelius said that was nonsense because the state's budget problems and cash-flow situation were unrelated.

Democrats said the move by Republicans amounted to blackmail and made thousands of state employees worry about getting paid.

But Sebelius ended up signing the rescission bill, although she applied several line item vetoes, including a veto of a $32 million cut in state aid to public schools.

About the same time this drama was occurring in the Statehouse, reports were coming out of Washington, D.C., that Sebelius was President Obama's choice for Health and Human Services secretary. She was confirmed secretary about two months later.


BitterClinger 4 years, 6 months ago

LJW, your left-wing bias is showing, again.

The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going -- except for ObamaCare.

This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.

And this shutdown is not anywhere near like the previous one or ANY previous government shutdown. Were the boat ramps and all the campgrounds and facilities on the Federal side of Clinton lake closed the last time? They're closed at Perry Lake, too, by the way in case you were thinking of heading out to picnic in this beautiful fall weather.

Were folks tossed out of their homes and their private businesses closed because the road to the house or business was on Federal land the last time? They've also ordered hundreds of parks that sit on federal land to close amid the government shutdown — even though they don’t use any government funding. The Obama Administration even tried to close the ocean, informing charter boat captains that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean!

They even shut down the Amber Alert system nationwide [however Michelle's "Let's Move" website remained up] until the outcry forced them to rescind that particular order. And yet, Obama's golf course which is on Federal land is still open but all the commissaries where our soldiers buy their groceries are closed. They also cut sports and entertainment programs [American Forces Network] for our deployed troops and Catholic priests are not allowed to say Mass on base or they will be arrested. And yet somehow there is money for NPR.

Did ANY of this happen the last time the government shut down? There have been 17 government shutdowns since the '70's. The only that President to ever completely refuse to negotiate on the debit ceiling: Obama.

Keith 4 years, 6 months ago

It can truly be said of the Republicans, they know not what they do.

elliottaw 4 years, 6 months ago

You do realize that the Dem. budget proposal had more money cut from the total budget than the one proposed by the republicans right?

And if the Republicans want to drop Social Seciruty and the like that fines just give me the money back that you have been holding for me, without interest that would be just short of a million.

BitterClinger 4 years, 6 months ago

elliottaw, Can you provide links, please? Thanks.

elliottaw 4 years, 6 months ago

I can not find the exact link, but Boehner a budget calls for $1.09 Billion in spending and the one proposed by the Dems calls for $1.04 Billion in spending.

deec 4 years, 6 months ago

"A 2010 Congressional Research Service report summarized other details of the 1995-1996 government shutdowns, indicating the shutdown impacted all sectors of the economy. Health and welfare services for military veterans were curtailed; the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stopped disease surveillance; new clinical research patients were not accepted at the National Institutes of Health; and toxic waste clean-up work at 609 sites was halted. Other impacts included: the closure of 368 National Park sites resulted in the loss of some seven million visitors; 200,000 applications for passports and 20,000 to 30,000 applications for visas by foreigners went unprocessed each day; U.S. tourism and airline industries incurred millions of dollars in losses; more than 20% of federal contracts, representing $3.7 billion in spending, were affected adversely.[7]"


Seth Peterson 4 years, 6 months ago

Your right-wing bias is showing a little stronger than the LJWorlds standard right-wing bias today. I suppose that's why you think the LJWorld could be a left-wing media source when they try to be centrist, minus Dolph, who has is heavily right-wing and keeps it from being so.

I suppose if the Dems presented a bill that fully funded the government other than the US Military you would be all for it and would complain that the GOP was refusing to negotiate.

No? That's different in your mind? Yes, because you can't get past your own bias regarding what it is you want and what you don't want.

Armstrong 4 years, 6 months ago

Ha, knew this one was a Rothschild piece before I even clocked to see it.

Andrew Dufour 4 years, 6 months ago

Bitter, let me pose a flip to the current argument raging on capital hill. If instead of the GOP making demands on the administration, instead, it was President Obama that was saying he would veto any spending bill that did not contain an entirely unrelated ban on assault rifles, high capacity magazine clips, and a law that targets CO2 in the atmosphere. If Obama made that demand would you say it's all republicans fault for refusing to sit down and talk about it, oh and Obama would also refuse to consider adding anything the GOP would like (because that's what Boehner did on the Sunday talk shows).

jimmyjms 4 years, 6 months ago

"The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going -- except for ObamaCare."

BitterClinger, see, here's the thing:

The POTUS won election based in large part on the ACA; put more plainly, the citizens of this country rejected Mitt Romney and the GOP in favor of the agenda that Obama put forward.

Even more plainly - your side lost. Sorry! That's how "democracy" works.

Then, to add to the festival of democracy, the ACA survived 50+ Congressional attempts to repeal/defund it...democracy, again!

Just for fun, the Supreme Court of the United States of America verified that the ACA was constitutional.

And now it's the law.

So your quote is exactly right, but the context is 100% incorrect. The GOP, or more succinctly, a very small subset of House Republicans, LOST. There is no reason for the Dems to negotiate now - that part happened already. Dem's won, GOP lost.

What is happening now is literal "hostage taking" by the GOP. There is no legal or moral reason for Obama to capitulate on this. You want the ACA repealed? WIN AN ELECTION BASED ON THAT PROPOSITION.

Until then, this stunt that the GOP is pulling is un-American - literally in defiance of democracy. Any suggestion that this is Obama's fault is based in either a) ignorance of how we got here, b) willful spinning, or c) both.

yourworstnightmare 4 years, 6 months ago

The senate should pass a continuing resolution with a total assault weapons ban attached to it, and then ask the GOP to compromise.

This is what is happening now with the GOP attaching an unrelated desire (defunding the ACA) to the continuing resolution.

Legislation by gun to the head, the new GOP "strategy", or lack thereof.

yourworstnightmare 4 years, 6 months ago

By asking Obama to "compromise" with a gun to the head of the US economy, the GOP are staking an unusual position.

They are basically saying that they, the GOP, have no interest in ending the shutdown and funding the government, and that they can use this as leverage to get Obama to defund the ACA. This is their compromise.

Ending the shutdown and funding the government has become Obama's issue, as the GOP have basically abandoned it with their hostage-taking strategy, which implicitly has a disregard for the health or well-being of the hostage.

Strange days for the GOP.

nwtransplant 4 years, 6 months ago

I totally support the Republicans in this shutdown. My bank will only allow me to borrow a specific amount of money. It should be no different with the government. This country cannot afford to go into debt any further. We have got to cut all non essential spending and start living within our means. If this doesn't stop, we will borrow ourselves right into bankruptcy. It may not happen in my lifetime, but it will happen if we do not get our spending under control. Using phrases like "holding hostage", "gun to the head" or "extortion" will not force anybody to change their minds. The Republicans are simply using what ever means they need to get the job done. If it takes a government shut down to do it, then so be it.

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