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Group says a number of Kansas Republicans support legislation authorizing the arrest of federal officials who implement Obamacare

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Twenty Republicans who are either already serving in the Kansas Legislature, or will be sworn into office in January, say they would support legislation to "nullify" the Affordable Care Act and authorize state and local law enforcement to arrest federal officials attempting to implement it, according to a survey compiled by a group called Campaign for Liberty.

The question from Campaign for Liberty, which was founded by U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, was "Will you support legislation to nullify ObamaCare and authorize state and local law enforcement to arrest federal officials attempting to implement the unconstitutional health care scheme known as ObamaCare?"

I started calling some of those who answered `Yes' to that question, and the first one I reached was state Rep. Jim Howell, R-Derby.

Howell said he is an ardent opponent of the federal Affordable Care Act and would do everything legislatively possible to prevent its implementation but he said he disagreed with the part of the question that dealt with authorizing state and local law enforcement to arrest federal officials to implement the law.

"That is not worded well," Howell said. He said during the course of the campaign, he did not remember responding to that particular survey.

State Rep.-elect Allan Rothlisberg, R-Junction City, also said he was vehemently opposed to the ACA, but the part of the question dealing with arresting federal officials was not something he would support. "Not arrest them but we are just not going to assist them," he said.

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texburgh 1 year, 5 months ago

So when an insurance company denies coverage to a premature infant because that respiratory issue or cardiac issue is a pre-existing condition, and a federal official intervenes to force them to cover the child thanks to the ACA, these republicans will intervene by arresting that federal official.

Explain to me again how that is "pro-life?"

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msezdsit 1 year, 5 months ago

how about arresting these 20 republicans for breaking the law know as the affordable care act. I would suggest to these f ing idiots that that is much more likely.

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scarlett 1 year, 5 months ago

I see that the delusional kansas conservatives missed the writing on the wall of this election. We will not be returning to the fifties so get over it.

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Cait McKnelly 1 year, 5 months ago

Hey, Kansas Legislature, keep it up. Pass this kind of resolution and you'll meet not just my friends "sedition" and "treason", you'll meet their big brother; "sanctions". That last bruiser will REALLY hurt, given that Kansas takes in more money from the Feds than what they pay out in taxes. Your state of "makers" is, in fact, a state of "takers".
Man, I can't WAIT for the piggie squeal that will happen when farm subsidies are cut off.

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msezdsit 1 year, 5 months ago

The republicans lost the election which by definition makes them "losers" and their childish behavior doubles down on these "losers". It is amusing to see how stupid they are willing to make themselves look. Or, wait, how stupid they are. LOSERS

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verity 1 year, 5 months ago

Can we sue our state government for wasting money on crap like this?

Are they really so stupid as to think this might happen? Or just posturing for effect? Not sure which is worse.

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verity 1 year, 5 months ago

I'm almost speechless---and that doesn't happen often. Our elected officials championing lawlessness? Really? I knew we had a colossal amount of stupidity in Kansas government, but this beats all.

What is it that has emboldened these people to do stuff like this? Has colossal stupidity become the new normal? If these people were educated in the Kansas public school system, then we do have a really, really big problem.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 5 months ago

It's called McConnellism. The daffy, imbred white skinned Southern bigot who because the State of Kentucky apparently has no one better to elect has allowed him to gain the Senate seniority to create this mess. There is a cure, two years out, elect Ashley Judd and let the Mitch join Mitt on the unemployment line. Better yet, let him assume leadership at one of the two enlightened tourist attractions in Kentucky that attract like minded bigots: The Creation Museum and The Noah's Ark Replica museum, where he can also serve as the second Jackass on the ark.

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TheREALCrankie1 1 year, 5 months ago

Scoutshonor, I don't know if I'm snide enough for you, but I'll tell you a good plan if you'll show me that republicans have an agenda that differs from "Absolutely no new taxes." and "we are against anything the Dems are for".
Doesn't matter what The President's (oh I bet that REALLY infuriates you!) plan is, if the "opposition's" plan is to never agree on anything. If Romney had won, I'd be saying similar thing to Senate Dems. Your platform CANNOT be "We are for whatever they are against, and against whatever they are for." If a rep is NOT prepared to compromise, then his or her constituents are ID10T's for electing that rep.
Can't you see what 4 years of this crud has reaped on our nation? All I'm asking for is rational thought, which it seems the extreme forces on both sides are incapable of. Ron Paul just happens to represent that for Republicans and to suggest the arrest of Federal officials for enacting law deemed constitutional by our Supreme Court (that's how our system works whether you like it or not) is ludicrous.

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Steven Gaudreau 1 year, 5 months ago

It seems no one actually read the article. Everyone said they were not agreeing with arresting anyone except Ron Paul. One man does not speak for the entire party.

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Scoutshonor 1 year, 5 months ago

What's wrong with you democrats? The government has not even passed a budget in 4 years. We are running trillion dollar deficits every year. You can't point to one government run program that is financially solvent, much less one that isn't riddled with massive fraud.

What makes you believe this is a good idea? We can't pay for it plain and simple! Take a second from your childish little remarks about how stupid republicans are and how smart you elite liberals are and explain a couple things.

Will just one of you snide democrat/liberals on this forum explain to me why you think government should be providing these services for us and please tell me what is Obama's plan to fix this countries financial statement???? Make your little comments but Obama has no plan, which in my book is the dumbest thing going right now. So continue your fashionable bashing of republicans but don't forget to look in the mirror because you blindly follow this president that has no clue how to get the economy going. Face the facts, it's been over 4 years.

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Michael LoBurgio 1 year, 5 months ago

Legislators' KPERS calculation a 'perk'

A state pension formula exclusive to Kansas legislators assumes they work every day - all 372 days of the year.

Members of the 40-seat Senate and the 125-seat House fall under the same pay scale. A legislator's pay is not a set sum but is built from three parts: daily rate, subsistence and non-session allowance.

A legislator receives a daily rate of $88.66 during the session. That includes payment for Saturday and Sunday, unless the Legislature takes a break. Last year, the Legislature reduced the $88.66 daily rate to $84.23 a day for six pay periods, in response to a tight economy and budget. This year, the daily rate is back at $88.66, according to LaVonne Mumert, payroll administrator in Legislative Administrative Services.

Accompanying the $88.66 is a subsistence payment of $123 a day. The subsistence rate is tied to a federal rate, which is why the Kansas rate climbed from $116 to $123 in October 2010, when the new federal fiscal year began, Mumert explained.

In addition, legislators receive a taxable allowance of $7,083. This is meted out in 20 biweekly installments of $354.15, enabling legislators to receive checks throughout the year.

Annualized pay To determine a legislator's KPERS benefit, his pay is annualized, treated as if the job entailed full-time employment and full-time pay.

"Even though they only really earn that for several months of the year, they get credit for earning it all year long," Basso said.

For the legislator listing all income - the daily rate, subsistence and allowance - this is how annualization is calculated:

  • $88.66 (daily rate) x 31 (days) x 12 (months) = $32,981.52

  • $123 (subsistence) x 31 (days) x 12 (months) = $45,756

  • $7,083 non-session allowance.

Altogether, that equals $85,820.52, and that's the pay figure that would be used for that legislator retiring now.

Comparing pensions

A legislator retiring with an annualized pay of $85,820.52, and with 10 years' service, would have an annual KPERS benefit of $15,018.60, for a monthly benefit of $1,251.55, according to KPERS. If the retiring legislator had 20 years' service, the annual benefit would be $30,037.20, and monthly, $2,503.10.

The News asked some KPERS retirees about their pension benefits. Their answers varied widely.

A state employee who was a supervisor for juveniles on probation retired after 34 years with an annual benefit of about $25,000. A municipal wastewater treatment plant superintendent, with 24 years' service, estimated the earned benefit at $2,300 to $2,400 monthly.

A state social services worker in a supervisory role retired in 1995 after 15 years and draws a monthly KPERS benefit of $524. That is equal to the monthly benefit for a county-level commercial appraiser who retired at 65, vested at nine years with KPERS.

http://hutchnews.com/Todaystop/kpers-and-leg-2--2

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 5 months ago

Has the republican agenda changed since the recent election or in the past 30 years? I say no.

The democrats have their work cut out for them. The republican agenda has not changed in spite of their after election rhetoric. Their anti American agenda stinks.

Face it neither WOMEN nor Republicans nor Democrats nor the Middle class will ever be able to afford those posing as the Republican Party!

-- Women will be getting more republican big government in there lives? It is on the way! http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/05/3849961/joel-brinkley-gop-would-impose.html

--- Public Education is a strong player in new Economic Growth yet republicans starve the system of funding which starves our teachers of resources. Which starves the desired level of education = stealing from our children’s future. Why kill public education?

--- "Rebuilding America's Defences," openly advocates for total global military domination” (Very dangerous position which threatens OUR freedoms and the nations security) http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century

--- Round two underway = The repub party declared the day Obama was elected their primary function would be to sink the democratic party. Consequently their millions of NO votes became the disastrous campaign against women,The USA and jobs for Americans. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/09/did-republicans-deliberately-crash-us-economy

--- Republicans still want to kill PBS and NPR - NO I want my tax dollars to support PBS and NPR

--- Publicopoly Exposed frankly is a threat to Democracy - ALEC http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/11603/publicopoly_exposed/ http://www.justice.org/cps/rde//justice/hs.xsl/15044.htm

--- Killing Social Security Insurance Is Not An Option. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

--- Killing Medicare Insurance is simply not an option. http://www.thenation.com/article/159769/paul-ryans-plan-destroy-medicare

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 5 months ago

Are all of these idiots medical insurance shareholders aka profiteers?

Obviously these idiots did not share these positions with voters which means they should be arrested for fraud.

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blindrabbit 1 year, 5 months ago

Kansas continues is slide to Dingbatism as we become Brownbackistan. Keep up this B.S. and the progressive Democrat deciders (to borrow Dubya's terninology) will not be kind to Kansas as the Teabaggers slip further into obscurity in the coming years. Remember the old adage "To the Victor Goes the Spoils" and Kansas will inherit the spoiled leftovers. God bless us, one and all.

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tange 1 year, 5 months ago

now looking out
for number one...
this is what you want
this is what you get

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tomatogrower 1 year, 5 months ago

What scares me is while we are keeping our eyes out for foreign terrorists, when will one of the crazies blow up another federal building. Tim McVeigh would be so proud.

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 5 months ago

These twenty Republicans must have learned from the master himself. Obama won’t deport illegal aliens under age 30 who came to the US as children. Obama announced he would not defend DOMA against court challenges. Homeland Security announced it would no longer deport the non-citizen spouses of gay's, a direct contradiction to DOMA as well. Obama's incompetent DOJ announced it would not prosecute medical marijuana users or suppliers in states where it’s legal, despite the state laws contradicting federal law. Many of the issues and laws on the books like welfare reform, gay rights, drug enforcement, Internet gambling, immigration and school achievement standards have been ignored by the Obama Administration. You reap what you sow little Barry!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77486.html

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Kontum1972 1 year, 5 months ago

drive by your doctors home sometime.....check it out....!

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Kontum1972 1 year, 5 months ago

folks they want us to be like Feral pigs.....remember that story?

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Kontum1972 1 year, 5 months ago

what is totally ironic about all this crap....all these politicians get their health care for free and so do their family members because we as citizens pay for it........even after they leave office but the rest of us scumbags have to pay for this out of our own pockets, we don't get that sweet deal of having the best Doctors available as these political leeches do...we have too suffer ....here is a story...a good friend of mine was in Europe on a vacation....he came down with appendicitis....they took him to the hospital....in a ambulance and they operated on him and fixed him up, when they released him from the hospital it did not cost him anything it was free. So tell me if you think this is screwed up? This is socialized medicine... so how is it that this seems to work there? Go figure!

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dd0031 1 year, 5 months ago

Someone should tell Kansas State Rep. Jim Howell, R-Derby that he has no power whatsoever to block any Federal legislation from taking effect in Kansas or anywhere else. Supremacy clause anyone?

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oldbaldguy 1 year, 5 months ago

south carolina tried to do this under President Jackson and Lincoln. where do these people come from?

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bobberboy 1 year, 5 months ago

What a bunch of idiots. Feds will just send in the National Guard. Browncracked and the Kochs are behind this !! Get them the hell out of Kansas - they're ruining the place even more than ever ! !

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Boston_Corbett 1 year, 5 months ago

"Campaign for Liberty?"

"When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross” -(attributed to Sinclair Lewis or Huey Long, but may have earlier sources)

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Larrytown 1 year, 5 months ago

Speaking of arrest....the 20 republicans may want to grab a dictionary and look up the word treason.

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Hooligan_016 1 year, 5 months ago

So, these representatives have not really given a substantive response as to why they are so "vehemently opposed to the ACA." I would be willing to listen to a factual/logical argument other than just hearing them yell it's BAD BAD BAD because of Democrats and Obama.

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somedude20 1 year, 5 months ago

Funny, as I was reading this article, NPR had a story on about how humans are getting dumber by the minute, just found some proof backing up that claim

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deec 1 year, 5 months ago

" to implement the unconstitutional health care scheme known as ObamaCare?""

That's my favorite part, because the only people whose opinion about the constitutionality of a law matters have already said it is constitutional.

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deec 1 year, 5 months ago

Just when you thought they couldn't get any sillier...

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Robert Rauktis 1 year, 5 months ago

Where's Dwight Eisenhower when ya need 'em?

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