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Brownback urging prayer on Saturday during ReignDown USA event

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Gov. Sam Brownback says "too often we have forgotten God," and he is inviting people to pray on Saturday.

Brownback is asking people to participate in worship and pray at MacLennan Park in an event sponsored by ReignDown USA.

Here is a video that Brownback made. The end of the video says no state resources were used to make the video or in the ReignDown event.

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attorney1776 2 years ago

So, let me get this straight, Mr. Rothschild. Reigndown as a private religious group is holding an event. The governor, separate from his official role in state government, and as a religious person, would like to promote the private event on his own time and expense.

Where's the story here? Should we expect to see an article tomorrow about your promotion and attendance at the Hanukkah celebrations happening now. We're not interested in Brownback's or your private life.

Once again, Mr. Rothschild, your propaganda machine is pumping out biased garbage to incite your like-minded small fan base's dislike of Brownback.

The majority of Kansas voters seem to be quite happy with the man and his agenda having voted him into office and supplementing his agenda by electing like-minded legislators.

I'm not necessarily very religious or political, What I am is disgusted and irate at "faux" journalists who pretend they are not propagandists.

This is why the Lawrence-Journal World is almost bankrupt. Tweaking your news stories to play to an lefty audience of 15% of the general public is not a profitable marketing strategy in any business. Which doesn't say much about the LJW management's expertise.

Steve Bunch 2 years ago

If the LJW is almost bankrupt, it's not because of the reporting. Rather, it's because fewer and fewer people are reading newspapers of any kind anymore. The expectation is that all the news can be had for "free" elsewhere.

I wonder if Muslims will be welcome at this prayer event.

Liberty275 2 years ago

Probably. Muslims are treated fairly in America. The ones that get all the trouble are the Sikhs the dumb rednecks (I can say redneck cause I are one) are too dumb to know the difference between the religions and that hating people based on their religious beliefs is unAmerican.

I find them to be very polite people and would as soon listen to them pray as anyone.

Alyosha 2 years ago

Easy there, sparky. The Governor's actions, even independent of his official duties, are worthy of news stories.

You're reading far, far too much into this — which simply means that it's touched off a sensitive issue for you.

Lastly, you keep using that word "propaganda." I don't think it means what you think it means. Propaganda, by any definition, seeks to spread ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person.

I see nothing in this article but sheer facts that tend neither toward the positive or the negative about Brownback himself; the post simply reports on what the Kansas Governor is doing.

Asserting the post has a negative intention — which you clearly cannot know for sure, being, I presume, not a mind reader who can see into Mr. Rothschild's mind and soul — has nothing to do with this purely factual post and everything to do with your own issues and ideology.

James Nelson 2 years ago

And judging from the time the article was released AT THE STATEHOUSE it would appear that the governor and others in his staff were involved in spending time promoting a religious event rather than tending to state business. We the taxpayers are getting used to getting the shaft from the likes of Brownback and Kobach.

Bob_Loblaw 2 years ago

It's not a news story...it's a "blog" posting affiliated with the news site....learn the difference. Opinion and bias can be inserted directly or indirectly into blog posts (and often are). "...The majority of Kansas voters seem to be quite happy with the man and his agenda.."....now that's a news story! Where did you get your stats from? You should never make generalizations you can't support. It is sad that the ignorant western part of the state holds so much sway (did you like that?...I just generalized right back at you).

Alyosha 2 years ago

I've got lots of experience with news and blogs, thanks. You shouldn't presume so much.

Second, why don't you write that article about how "...The majority of Kansas voters seem to be quite happy with the man and his agenda"? Sounds like you simply want something else written than what was written. Pitch the editor or write it yourself!

I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of stats and generalizations. I simply mentioned that you are imputing a motive you cannot know, absent being a mindreader, and that there is nothing in this post that a reasonable objective person would see as propaganda.

asixbury 2 years ago

Bob I think was responding to Attorney, not you.

asixbury 2 years ago

What? What since does that make? Why would I respond to my own comment, then?

Alyosha 2 years ago

My bad! This threading / reply design isn't, you know, what I'd call helpful :/

Carol Bowen 2 years ago

There's nothing unusual or inappropriate about asking someone with name recognition to help promote and energize an event. This is not my cup of tea, but whatever.

fearthephog512 2 years ago

Brownback is the highest elected official in Kansas, moron, that's why it's a story. If Sebelius or Obama were to "privately" promote an atheist event on his or her own "time and expense" would that not also be newsworthy? Yes, it would be, and it most definitely would be covered by Fox.

For the basic elements of newsworthiness, refer to TIP CUP:

Timeliness; Impact; Prominence (e.g., someone/something famous, well-known, such as elected officials); Conflict; Uniqueness; and Proximity.

Furthermore, Rothschild likely was assigned this story. If you're concerned of why it's newsworthy contact his managing editor.

Bob Forer 2 years ago

"Once again, Mr. Rothschild, your propaganda machine is pumping out biased garbage ....."

From Wikipedia: Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes. As opposed to impartially providing information, .........

I am curious attorney1776. Please specifically articulate for us what part of Mr. Rothschild's story goes beyond "impartially providing information?"

Funny, but I see things differently. The governor released a public statement hoping that his admonition would be picked up and circulated by the press, which, at least in the case of the LJW, it was.

if you want to demonize somebody, what don't you start with your dear leader, Governor Brownback. After all, he started it all by making a proclamation hoping that it would be picked up by the press.

ScottyMac 2 years ago

Separate from his role as governor? What on earth are you talking about?

Here is an excerpt from Pope Brownback's official declaration:

"NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sam Brownback, GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF KANSAS, do hereby proclaim December 8th 2012, as a

Day of Restoration

in Kansas and ask every citizen of our state to join in asking a Holy God to bring healing and restoration – help in mending broken lives, bringing peace to our families, our communities, and this land.

DONE: At the Capitol in Topeka under the Great Seal of the State this 23rd day of November, A.D. 2012 BY THE GOVERNOR: Samuel Brownback"

jonas_opines 2 years ago

Pray to the Father for our guidance.

(Because we don't have a damned clue what we're doing.)

KSManimal 2 years ago

Just earlier today, Brownback called for taking more money from the poor in order to fund his tax cuts for the rich. Seems like just the opposite of what Jesus said to do.

It's OK, though, because Brownback will pray on Saturday.

chootspa 2 years ago

Brownback may need a few people with signs to remind him about what Jesus actually said. He does appear to have forgotten.

Liberty275 2 years ago

That's such an unfair way of phrasing it.Brownback may have told some people we will tax you less progressively and told other people may have to do with less. You are making an automatic assumption that my property really belongs to the government. It doesn't. It is my money first. The state takes some and helps other people. I haven't taken anything from anyone, only been allowed to keep more of what I work for.

Your opinion on who is giving and who is taking is backwards. It is a disingenuous argument.

chootspa 2 years ago

Actually, the comparison is pretty apt. Like the Taliban, the radical Christian minority attempts to inflict their beliefs on those over whom they rule and would remove any separation between church and state. Unlike the Taliban, they do not currently rule by military dictatorship. They're not above the occasional act of terrorism, however.

"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism." - Terry Randal.

chootspa 2 years ago

Christians in Kansas are not the minority, no. I never claimed otherwise. And the majority are not radical. A majority want the separation of church and state. A minority subset of Christians are, however, extremist radicals, and those are the ones most bound and determined to take over the government and impose their interpretation of Christianity on everyone else. I was entirely accurate in my previous statement.

I don't want to live under Taliban rule in Afghanistan or here, thanks.

Liberty275 2 years ago

I take it you've never seen the video of the russian soldier tied to four trucks by his arms and legs and dismembered alive. Can you name an instance of modern Christians committing such an act?

chootspa 2 years ago

No, but I've seen the picture of the fireman carrying that dead baby out of the Oklahoma City bombing.

Kathy Getto 2 years ago

christian taliban.......... Only difference is your christian taliban doesn't have the guts (yet) to drag women from their homes to do their bidding.

question4u 2 years ago

"too often we have forgotten God"

Flim-Flam Sam has evidently forgotten the Bible too. He might want to take a look at Matthew: 6:5-6, since he is described there quite clearly.

"And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you."

verity 2 years ago

Exactly what I was thinking---saved me having to look it up.

That's what I was taught when I was a Christian. But that was a long time ago.

blindrabbit 2 years ago

attorney: You need to read "What's the Matter With Kansas" to get a better understanding of why much of the populace of Kansas buy's into Sam's nutty politics. Kansas citizens were bought out by the fundamentally right-wing politicos into accepting far-right monetary and social concepts that work against their own best interests. Bettet yet, read about "God's Senator" Sam Brownback in the C-Street Brotherhood. "God bless us all, each and Everyone" C. Dickens

hujiko 2 years ago

Are farmers not entitled? Federal subsidies are the only thing that make farming a livable occupation, without crop insurance and other programs there would never be a profitable season for farming families.

Katara 2 years ago

Farmers have been known to use both hammers AND sickles!

Hmmmmm... you may onto something here.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 2 years ago

Ooops, my bad....Penalty..........2 hours reading Sara Palin's memoirs...........

Katara 2 years ago

You must be slipping. That should have only taken 15 minutes and involved coloring within the lines.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 2 years ago

Wow!! That sure says it! Sting a bit, Sammy???

Kathy Getto 2 years ago

True, but the party against the darkness went on for days.

FloridaSunshine 2 years ago

It doesn't matter the exact day of His birth...when will people EVER realize this???? It's the remembering...it's the honoring...it does NOT have to be the exact date or month or year. We never knew my great-grandfather's date of birth, but family "set a date" and celebrated every year on that date. Did that make my great-grandfather any "less born and alive"???? I am SO over this particular debate. Surely you can find something of greater significance to moan and groan about.

Kathy Getto 2 years ago

It's all good florida. You are SO correct! When creating myths, facts don't matter.

Kathy Getto 2 years ago

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FloridaSunshine 2 years ago

I'm quite sure my great-grandfather was (is) not a myth...and even more sure that my risen Lord was (is) not a myth.

Alyosha 2 years ago

So what? Try to articulate an explicit point.

Cait McKnelly 2 years ago

So "supply side Jesus" Sam wants us to pray and the LJW dutifully publishes it.
In the meantime, an article about how Sam and his buddies refuse to help a Topeka high school obtain a 40 million dollar federal grant up and disappears. First time I've ever seen an article get disappeareded. What happened? You guys get a phone call from the governor's mansion?

Alyosha 2 years ago

The story still appears on the front page list (see image; the story's bounded in red for demonstration purposes) but 404's when one attempts to read it.

Odd to have a bell unrung / story unpublished.

Astrunk 2 years ago

Thanks for the heads up. I'll check out what the error is and fix it.

Adam

riverdrifter 2 years ago

Dear Governor Brownback:

SHUT UP.

Your friend, River.

blindrabbit 2 years ago

No, Xmas tree instead. Even Christina Aguilera has changed hers to Xtina; just getting with the times. By-the-way, that picture of Sammy in today's LJW looks like he has taken up Boehner's idea of spending either too much time in the tanning booth or a little too much spray-on.

Cait McKnelly 2 years ago

Actually, to me he looks like he spent a little too much time with the "raspberry cordial" lately.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 2 years ago

Belief belies facts. You speak as if Brownback is an apostle of some god/man/spirit. Their is NOTHING in Brownback's platform or agenda that follows the teachings of Jesus.

"We believe that the Holy Spirit is the presence of Jesus Christ (Brownback) among us. Through Him God loves us, empowers us and lives in us. The Spirit gives gifts to all believers. We believe in all the gifts of the Spirit. (1 Corinthians 12:4-11)" - This was taken from the "ReignDown" website...minus the (Brownback)

Do you believe THIS?

If so, you believe more in hymns and missives designed to fool those who wish to profess and justify their goodness and superiority.

A politician's feigning such belief is designed to control the working class. Politicians professing to truly believe in such speculation are fooled by other "professors".

Brownback certainly "seems" sincere in his belief but I truly can't tell if he is just being a politician, is simply a "believer", or is wading in the river of belief and deception.

In either case, he cannot be trusted...in my book...due to the fact that the organized "pray in" he is encouraging is supported by those who believe in hell fire and damnation...those who believe in a not too distant demise...an obvious threat...and those who exhibit an obvious abuse of power.

Katara 2 years ago

Hmmm.. IIRC the Bible mentions something about false idols...

Alyosha 2 years ago

For a godless socialist, Obama sure has been good for the capitalist stock market. And for private corporate profits.

Kindly detail all the industries the President has nationalized, 'cause I apparently missed those news stories.

It's time to realize that your trite beliefs have little to do with reality.

tomatogrower 2 years ago

I will pray on Saturday, what I pray everyday. That the next 2 years will show Kansas they have made a mistake and work to fix it in 2 years.

speedy47 2 years ago

Let's all pray Saturday...FOR A NEW GOVERNOR!!!!!

James Nelson 2 years ago

Anticommunist needs to read Lange's reply above. That post describes how a real Christian prays and alludes as to how the hypocrite prays. Sammy boy sure fits into the latter.

James Nelson 2 years ago

Brownback appeals only to the greedy and selfish. He shows nothing but disdain for state employees who have worked how many years now without any pay increases while the cost of living has skyrocketed, yes skyrocketed. They have had to dig into their pockets each year to pay more than the year before for their family's healthcare. And now, the biggest insult and affront to the poor and middle class (whats left of it) ever presented in Kansas history - being forced to not only watch but to actually pick up the tab for state income taxes for all wealthy business owners who get to skip scott free from paying any Kansas state income taxes starting next month.

Its not the first time its happened but corporate America has been slipping higher prices to consumers on a regular basis the last few years. When you buy a box of cereal at the grocery store and it appears to be the same price you have just been had by one of our cereal makers. If you had been tracking the number of ounces in that box you would have noticed that over the years the number of ounces has been dropping. On occasion the price went up at the same time and they really hit consumers over the head. But its not just cereal makers. We are all aware of gasoline prices the last few years. At least we see them go up and down. Healthcare cost increases never seem to take a break. The rate they and college costs have risen are taking unprecedented bites out of family budgets. If salaries had continued to rise to keep up with inflation it wouldn't be so bad but the governor and his best buds in the legislature just keep on clubbling the poor and middle class over the head.

I see help coming in the form of a greater realization by Kansas voters that the extreme conservatives who now seem to control the state appear far too selfish and greedy and self serving and will be replaced. The state can then again show the respect and support for the most vulnerable of our citizens.

Cait McKnelly 2 years ago

"I see help coming in the form of a greater realization by Kansas voters that the extreme conservatives who now seem to control the state appear far too selfish and greedy and self serving and will be replaced. The state can then again show the respect and support for the most vulnerable of our citizens."

Y'ain't from around here, air ya?

JackMcKee 2 years ago

"Hey average Kansan, not only are your sales and property taxes going to increase, but you're also going to lose two of your largest deductions on your Kansas income tax return, which as a w-2 taxpayer you're still on the hook. Good luck"

Sam Brownback.

Cait McKnelly 2 years ago

His eyes are puffy too. Maybe he has "hay fever". Yeah, let's go with that.

headdoctor 2 years ago

Tanzer. You and cait48 are being far to nice. The puffy eyes and red glow of his cheeks and nose are caused by the same thing that put calluses on his knees. It wasn't prayer. It was spending way to much time trying to please the Koch brothers.

Jeff Barclay 2 years ago

A fantastic event. I haven't been impressed with what men and women can do. We need the intervention of God. In my mind, this demonstrates gutsy leadership. But one thing to note. This event was not orchestrated or organiized by the governor. Christian believers with a wide range of political beliefs and ideals, from both sides of the aisle, have put this national, Topeka-based event together.

Alyosha 2 years ago

How will you know whether God has or has not intervened?

How do you know that the current state of affairs is not exactly what God already wants?

Are you so sure that God's intervention will result in a state of affairs that matches what you yourself want? That sounds remarkably hubristic and prideful, asserting that you yourself know God's purpose better than other people, if that's what you mean.

"Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other.... The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes."

Liberty275 2 years ago

Being governor doesn't prohibit the federal government from protecting your rights if you are acting in a non-official manner and no state money is used.

somedude20 2 years ago

Got proof of this "god" or is it just a feeling in your gut? Could be gas, just sayin....

Liberty275 2 years ago

Or maybe Satan has you in his grasp and is using you to forward his evil plan.

I don't know why they don't just say that. It makes logical circle smaller and less tedious.

Also, how do you know Satan isn't manipulating you?

TinmanKC 2 years ago

it's not mentioned anywhere in the article but MacLennan Park is the grounds of the Kansas Governor's Mansion. I will be praying on Saturday (and Sunday) for the return of sanity in Kansas state government and the separation of church and state.

deec 2 years ago

Any Ks residents up for calling the ACLU about this?

parco814 2 years ago

All I know is that I'm not part of the "we" SB invokes, and that so long as he, Kobach, and that gang of snakes is in charge, no one in Kansas except the economic elites and their bigoted supporters has a prayer.

If there's a God, he/she/it can worry about whether or not folks have forgotten. Some of us are too busy remembering people, an activity beyond SB's comprehension.

msezdsit 2 years ago

I am sure he is praying for the topeka school district since he wouldn't help them with the grant they could have used. Especially with the slashes to education the kansas teapubs have imposed on our children's future.

JustNoticed 2 years ago

Belief in imaginary friends should disqualify one from public office.

Liberty275 2 years ago

I'll politely deny the request of our governor.

JustNoticed 2 years ago

Your rational side needs work. Consider the possibility of a conservative who has given up pre-modern, superstitious thinking and prefers a government not shackled by the need to kowtow to your or anyone's version of a guy in the sky.

Alyosha 2 years ago

"God Bashers"? Puny mortal humans versus omnipotent creator of the universe. I doubt God is as worried as you are about humans "on the left" (whatever that means).

God created everyone, gave everyone reason and rationality. And no human, WristTwister, knows the mind of God, the purposes of God.

If you believe you know God's will and purpose, you are likely under the sway of Satan. I'd be very, very careful and get your sinful pride and self-idolatry under control.

Alyosha 2 years ago

There's no issue, no reason for outrage. Brownback is free (off state time) to say whatever he wants. Everyone else is free to support, mock, disparage, praise, as they see fit.

That's called freedom of speech. And everyone is free to practice their religion of choice, just as everyone is free to mock / praise / disparage / support whatever they like.

Bigotry is not confined to any one group; there are Christian bigots, too. Or do you deny that?

Richard Heckler 2 years ago

Sam Brownback is going to pray for more campaign dollars which likely will somehow appear.

Sam Brownback likes to travel for campaign dollars. Sam Brownback is NOT close to god but very close to political offering plates.

Public education,state employees and the arts are not evil..... Sam Brownback on the other hand may well be the evil one.

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